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Tragg
12-13-2001, 01:48 PM
would be a questionable trade:

Richie, 4.47 ERA 201 ip, 211 hits, 52 BB, 124 Ks
Lowe, 3.61 ERA, 127 ip, 123 hits, 32 BB, 71Ks

Lowe has better numbers by my book.

And then we throw in Wells and Fogg (2.11 ERA in a few appearances). We get a minor leaguer in return?

What's the point (I know JM hated Lowe - I guess that's the point).

duke of dorwood
12-13-2001, 01:53 PM
:versatile

I thought I was our AA catcher.

duke of dorwood
12-13-2001, 01:55 PM
:jerry

We had 2 Wells' and 2 Josh's.

Its less confusing for me this way

FarWestChicago
12-13-2001, 01:55 PM
Hey Tragg, you may be on a bit of a ragg thanks to KW, but you became a WSI Personality this morning. :smile:

Tragg
12-13-2001, 02:00 PM
Gee, I'm honored. I post like a lunatic around trade time. I was #3 during July and August (trading deadline).

I get fired up, but I wish he wouldn't overpay for everything he wants. I had to put up with 3 years of yalls boy, Ditka, doing that down here.

Tragg
12-13-2001, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by duke of dorwood
:versatile

I thought I was our AA catcher.

The AA major league catcher?

Only if that were so - I'd laud Kenny Williams!

I think Jerry likes that Josh.

WinningUgly!
12-13-2001, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Tragg
Gee, I'm honored. I post like a lunatic around trade time. I was #3 during July and August (trading deadline).

I get fired up, but I wish he wouldn't overpay for everything he wants. I had to put up with 3 years of yalls boy, Ditka, doing that down here.
:iron
Hey, who do you think put that offensive line, Ricky Williams & most of yall's defense together?

Soxboyrob
12-13-2001, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Tragg
would be a questionable trade:

Richie, 4.47 ERA 201 ip, 211 hits, 52 BB, 124 Ks
Lowe, 3.61 ERA, 127 ip, 123 hits, 32 BB, 71Ks

Lowe has better numbers by my book.



Are you kidding me? Ritchie has thrown almost 200 innings per season for the last three years. Ritchie has excellent stuff. Lowe is a junkballer. Ritchie is a horse that has been fairly consistent over the last 3 years and Lowe rarely can go over 5 innings as a starter. The only difference above is the ERA. Ritchie has stats just as good as Lowe in k's per 9, hr's allowed per 9, bb's per 9, whip ratio. It's like trading for another Sean Lowe that can now go 7-8 innings on a fairly consistent basis and has the potential to win 20 games. He'll allow the bullpen to stay fresh. Ritchie is a very talented pitcher. This was a reasonable trade. If we gave up a bit more than necessary, that's fine. We're loaded w/ pitching prospects and can afford to unload a few to get to the desired goal. This trade makes us better now. I'm tired of waiting for later.

MJK
12-13-2001, 03:03 PM
i read that kenny dubya predicts 15-18 wins from ritchie. he didn't get much in the way of run support with the pirates and i'm warming more and more to this trade.

Randar68
12-13-2001, 03:06 PM
i read that kenny dubya predicts 15-18 wins from ritchie. he didn't get much in the way of run support with the pirates and i'm warming more and more to this trade.


I'm sorry, but look a at Sox starters with 4.47 ERA's. Were any of them on pace to win 15-18 games last year???

Buehrle had a 3.2? ERA and ended with 16 wins. You really think someone with a 4.47 ERA in a league with one free out out of 9 will throw in the low 3's in the AL....


Kenny and crew, put the bong away!

Mathew
12-13-2001, 04:09 PM
Last year our line up usually had one or two free out per nine at least. Brian Bohanon and Hampton were decent hitters compaired to some of our friggin' daisies.