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alumbrados
09-10-2005, 12:18 PM
He won't win it, but I am curious as to how many votes he'll receive.

peeonwrigley
09-10-2005, 12:23 PM
He won't win it, but I am curious as to how many votes he'll receive.

He's making a late case for some votes. He's gonna be way down on the list though, behind Ortiz, A-Rod, and that idiot who fell on the net at Yankee Stadium.

SoxinAZ
09-10-2005, 03:53 PM
No Way!!!

Cowhead418
09-10-2005, 04:36 PM
Borchard will. Look at that AVG!:redneck

LuvSox
09-10-2005, 05:19 PM
He won't win it, but I am curious as to how many votes he'll receive.

Hell no, he plays for the White Sox, remember?

By the way, Welcome Aboard!

silenceofthehawk
09-10-2005, 05:38 PM
Pk has more of chance that his hair will grow back than getting any concideration for MVP. :(:

RallyBowl
09-10-2005, 05:40 PM
Most Valuable Paul maybe.

Hitmen77
09-10-2005, 05:54 PM
Most Valuable Paul maybe.

or perhaps M.V.GIDP. ??

Jurr
09-10-2005, 07:48 PM
Paulie won't get much in the way of MVP votes because the world is enamored with Ortiz.

However, if they made the MVP ballot a fan vote, we'd see a different outcome.

ChiSoxRowand
09-10-2005, 08:55 PM
I think it will be a shame if Konerko isn't one of the top 3 vote getters.

JB98
09-10-2005, 10:15 PM
I think it will be a shame if Konerko isn't one of the top 3 vote getters.

You might want to prepare to be disappointed. The MVP vote will be a contest among various power hitters who play in Boston and New York.

munchman33
09-11-2005, 12:57 AM
Putting Paul Konerko's numbers against those of hitters like Alex Rodriguez is folly. You should be ashamed as a baseball fan to even think such a thing.

HITMEN OF 77
09-11-2005, 11:48 AM
Putting Paul Konerko's numbers against those of hitters like Alex Rodriguez is folly. You should be ashamed as a baseball fan to even think such a thing.

So his numbers aren't as high as Rod's and the others, but he's still having a great year and has helped a team who was suppose to finish 3rd or 4th win the division. That has to be taken into consideration. He will be in the top 5.

munchman33
09-11-2005, 04:52 PM
So his numbers aren't as high as Rod's and the others, but he's still having a great year and has helped a team who was suppose to finish 3rd or 4th win the division. That has to be taken into consideration. He will be in the top 5.

Doubtful.

Chips
09-11-2005, 05:10 PM
No Chance.

guillen4life13
09-11-2005, 06:05 PM
Konerko is not the reason why this team has done as well as it has.

jshanahanjr
09-12-2005, 01:56 PM
PK should finish 3rd or 4th if the Yanks fail to make the playoffs.

chisoxfanatic
09-12-2005, 02:23 PM
Not even close. Manny Ramirez, Johnny Damon, David Ortiz, and Alex Rodriguez have all CONSISTENTLY produced more than Paul Konerko. Konerko could be considered as a *team* MVP, however.

JeffIsTHEMAN
09-12-2005, 02:49 PM
I think it will be a shame if Konerko isn't one of the top 3 vote getters.

seriously??

i like konerko and think hes a star but i dont really think of him as mvp-caliber nor do i put him top 3

unless u meant top 3 al first baseman???

D. TODD
09-12-2005, 02:54 PM
Not much consideration, and rightfully so. Good year for the big fella, but in no way a M.V.P. quality year.

Fenway
09-12-2005, 03:02 PM
He won't win it, but I am curious as to how many votes he'll receive.
A-Rod going to win it easily the Boston writers say they voting for him

Tekijawa
09-12-2005, 03:50 PM
MVP no! Infield Pop-up Grand Master YES!

JeffIsTHEMAN
09-12-2005, 03:58 PM
MVP no! Infield Pop-up Grand Master YES!

Teal, please?

Hes not nearly as bad as the konerko-haters make him out to be.

Procol Harum
09-12-2005, 04:01 PM
Konerko has come a long way in rebounding from his earlier doldrums, but no way is he an MVP. Maybe a top 10 votegetter...

Tekijawa
09-12-2005, 04:03 PM
Teal, please?


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH NO!

And he's nowhere near as good as this thread may suggest!

JeffIsTHEMAN
09-12-2005, 04:05 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH NO!

And he's nowhere near as good as this thread may suggest!

I didnt call him an mvp contender but hes the most decent bat we got.

mr_genius
09-12-2005, 04:06 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH NO!

!

You were wrong about Konerko, deal with it. I'm sure you've been wrong before.

mr_genius
09-12-2005, 04:07 PM
There is no way Konerko will or deserves to win the AL MVP award this year. A-rod should win it, IMO.

Nellie_Fox
09-12-2005, 04:29 PM
I like Paulie, and he's having a nice season, but I wouldn't vote for him for MVP.

Tekijawa
09-12-2005, 04:43 PM
You were wrong about Konerko, deal with it. I'm sure you've been wrong before.

There is no way Konerko will or deserves to win the AL MVP award this year. A-rod should win it, IMO.

What? :?:

FielderJones
09-12-2005, 04:53 PM
There is no way Konerko will or deserves to win the AL MVP award this year. A-rod should win it, IMO.

Should the MVP come from a non-playoff team?

mr_genius
09-12-2005, 05:04 PM
What? :?:

It's fairly simple.

1) Konerko doesn't "suck" and doesn't "only hit infield pop-ups" as you seem to enjoy claiming.

2) Konerko is not this years MVP.

In conclusion:Konerko is good, but he is not the best player in the AL.

your pal,
mr_genius

mr_genius
09-12-2005, 05:05 PM
Should the MVP come from a non-playoff team?

Maybe, it depends on the circumstances.

Tekijawa
09-12-2005, 05:12 PM
It's fairly simple.

1) Konerko doesn't "suck" and doesn't "only hit infield pop-ups" as you seem to enjoy claiming.

2) Konerko is not this years MVP.

In conclusion:Konerko is good, but he is not the best player in the AL.

your pal,
mr_genius

Sorry, I didn't know that Grand Master of the Infield Pop-Out Implied that he only hits those... I just thought that it meant he hit a lot of them and was very good at doing so... Just like "Home Run King" Henry Aaron not ONLY hit HR's, but amassed a wide awray of other types of hits... And nowhere in my post did I ever mention that "he sucked" but you're the genius!

mr_genius
09-12-2005, 05:14 PM
you're the genius!

Yes, I know.

mr_genius
09-12-2005, 05:18 PM
nowhere in my post did I ever mention that "he sucked"

Of course you didn't... and most people refer to a hitter that "doesn't suck" as the "grand master of the infield pop-out".

:gulp:

Tekijawa
09-12-2005, 05:28 PM
Of course you didn't... and most people refer to a hitter that "doesn't suck" as the "grand master of the infield pop-out".

:gulp:

What ever dude...

Hitmen77
09-13-2005, 08:49 AM
Should the MVP come from a non-playoff team?

I think the MVP should come from a playoff-contending team, but that's not how baseball has always treated the award. Didn't Andre Dawson win it one year when the Cubs were in last place? My opinion is that someone can't be the most valuable player in the league if your team stinks.

Nellie_Fox
09-13-2005, 02:51 PM
Didn't Andre Dawson win it one year when the Cubs were in last place? Ernie Banks won it two years in a row (58-59) on teams that were below .500 and in the middle of the NL. Thing is, he was probably the only reason they weren't dead last both years.

Paulwny
09-13-2005, 02:59 PM
Hank Sauer won it in 1952 for the 5th placed cubs.

Tekijawa
09-13-2005, 04:06 PM
Andre Dawson was on a LAST placed team when he won it in '87... Can't remember who he played for???

TheOldRoman
09-13-2005, 04:13 PM
The thought of Konerko being MVP crossed my mind in his extra inning at bat on Friday night. I had a vision of Paulie hitting one out. Since it would have been his second of the night, would have won the game against a top team, and he is scorching hot lately, that game would have done A LOT to propell him towards the MVP. However, he would still need to stay red hot throughout September. But alas, Konerko lined out, Everett had his head up his arse, and we lost an inning later.

Seriously though, the only way Konerko would have a chance is if he hits some big homers for us in the next three weeks. I am talking a minimum 10 homers with at least 2 coming in the late innings.

Hitmen77
09-14-2005, 11:26 AM
Didn't Andre Dawson win it one year when the Cubs were in last place?

Ernie Banks won it two years in a row (58-59) on teams that were below .500 and in the middle of the NL.

Hank Sauer won it in 1952 for the 5th placed cubs.

Is it me or is there a common theme here?

wdelaney72
09-14-2005, 01:50 PM
Should the MVP come from a non-playoff team?

I believe that being on a playoff team is an absolute requirement for MVP, but that's just my opinion.

Konerko finishes fourth behind Vlad, Manny, and Ortiz.
.277 avg
37 hr
90 rbi
.369 obp
.539 slg

Vlad
.313
29
97
.388
.562

Ortiz
.297
41
127
.397
.600

Manny
.284
35
122
.380
.562

MisterB
09-14-2005, 02:13 PM
I believe that being on a playoff team is an absolute requirement for MVP, but that's just my opinion.

Konerko finishes fourth behind Vlad, Manny, and Ortiz.

Konerko .277/.369/.539 - 37 hr/90 rbi
Vlad .313/.388/.562 - 29/97
Ortiz .297/.397/.600 - 41/127
Manny .284/.380/.562 - 35/122

(edited for clarity)

Or sixth if you expand that to include A-Rod and Mark Teixeira:

A-Rod .321/.421/.600 - 41/111
Teixeira .292/.372/.560 - 39/126

maurice
09-14-2005, 02:44 PM
Or sixth if you expand that to include A-Rod and Mark Teixeira:
A-Rod .321/.421/.600 - 41/111
Teixeira .292/.372/.560 - 39/126

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5737.jpg
"I'm pretty good too."
.313/.388/.562 - 29/97

maurice
09-14-2005, 02:48 PM
http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5888.jpg
"Me two."
.310 / .356 / .538 - 25 / 90

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6980.jpg
"Me three."
.300 / .400 / .561 - 25/88

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6613.jpg
"Me four."
.329 / .384 / .516 - 22/81
+ 102 runs scored

JeffIsTHEMAN
09-14-2005, 02:52 PM
http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6980.jpg
"Me three."
.300 / .400 / .561 - 25/88



Too late

maurice
09-14-2005, 02:53 PM
http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5931.jpg
"I have the same OPS as
Paulie but 16 more RBI."

JeffIsTHEMAN
09-14-2005, 02:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5931.jpg
"I have the same OPS as
Paulie but 16 more RBI."

About a 20 point ba difference, no?

voodoochile
09-14-2005, 03:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5931.jpg
"I have the same OPS as
Paulie but 16 more RBI."

Yeah but your team sucks. It's not the guy with the best stats, it's the guy who helps his team win he most.

mr_genius
09-14-2005, 03:05 PM
:walnuts

"I'm waiting until I sign with the Red Sox before I win my first MVP"

JeffIsTHEMAN
09-14-2005, 03:05 PM
Yeah but your team sucks. It's not the guy with the best stats, it's the guy who helps his team win he most.

2003 wasnt that long ago.

DaleJRFan
09-14-2005, 03:09 PM
Out of the MVP contenders, Vlad, Hafner, PK and ARod have had the most impact... probably with ARod on top... as much as I hate the damn Yankee$, I can't see Konerko (as much of a fan as I am) winning the MVP with that BA, K total, BA w/ RISP... but even when he was slumping early on this season, he had some MAJOR rbis and hrs. He has to at least get some consideration.

ARod can have the AL MVP award, so long as PK gets the World Series MVP.

maurice
09-14-2005, 03:36 PM
It's not the guy with the best stats, it's the guy who helps his team win he most.

That's the way I'd pick them also. Unfortunately, we don't get to vote. The guys who actually do get to vote apparently disagree with us.

maurice
09-14-2005, 03:38 PM
About a 20 point ba difference, no?

You're close. It's actually 15 points. Then again, if AVE is a major consideration, Konerko (.277 - 46th in the AL) is screwed.

voodoochile
09-14-2005, 04:40 PM
2003 wasnt that long ago.

and if we were voting for the 2003 MVP, you would have an excellent point...:rolleyes: