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chaerulez
09-06-2005, 09:18 PM
I'm convinced Dusty Baker is the worst manager ever in history, surpassing Grady Little and Larry Bowa in my book. He doesn't play players that deserve to play on a team going nowhere (Murton & Cedeno), he plays players that don't deserve to play (Patterson & Hairston). He doesn't have his team focused at all. This guy is a joke and the organization is slowly turning into a joke for allowing this guy to do what he does. I'm just upset because foolish Cub fans continue to defend this guy like he was some kind of savior to the team (back to back winning season), I hope they know "5 outs from the World Series" means jack.

Daver
09-06-2005, 09:25 PM
Shouldn't this be posted at Cubsinteractive.com?

Chips
09-06-2005, 09:25 PM
I never thought Grady Little was that bad of a manager. Dusty is absolutely useless. His pitchers always seem to get hurt and he blew a 5-run (?) lead to win the world series with bad managing.

veeter
09-06-2005, 09:28 PM
I hope they sign him to an extension.

TommyJohn
09-06-2005, 09:33 PM
Two words for you, my man:



TERRY.....BEVINGTON

Daver
09-06-2005, 09:45 PM
Two words for you, my man:



TERRY.....BEVINGTON


http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/daver/Bevs%20manging%20shoes.jpg

Johnny Mostil
09-06-2005, 10:59 PM
He doesn't play players that deserve to play on a team going nowhere

This sentence makes my head hurt. Is this good or bad?

Stroker Ace
09-06-2005, 11:25 PM
I never thought Grady Little was that bad of a manager.Neither have I.

Hitmen77
09-06-2005, 11:48 PM
... This guy is a joke and the organization is slowly turning into a joke for allowing this guy to do what he does. ....

I think that organization has been a joke for about 60 years now. However, the unyielding pro-Cubs hype machine that is our local and national media continues to fool people into thinking that the Cubs are one of the "premier" franchise in baseball. Truth is that for many decades now the Cubs have been a joke with only a very few seasons above .500.

RKMeibalane
09-06-2005, 11:56 PM
:jerry

*TINKER* *TINKER* *TINKER*

CLR01
09-07-2005, 03:37 AM
:jerry

*TINKER* *TINKER* *TINKER*


And the difference between Ozzies tinkering and JM's tinkering is what?

The Dude
09-07-2005, 08:36 AM
Two words for you, my man:



TERRY.....BEVINGTON

When I read the title of this thread...that was the only man that came to mind!

The Dude
09-07-2005, 08:37 AM
And the difference between Ozzies tinkering and JM's tinkering is what?

Winning???

Fredsox
09-07-2005, 08:46 AM
I'm convinced Dusty Baker is the worst manager ever in history, surpassing Grady Little and Larry Bowa in my book. He doesn't play players that deserve to play on a team going nowhere (Murton & Cedeno), he plays players that don't deserve to play (Patterson & Hairston). He doesn't have his team focused at all. This guy is a joke and the organization is slowly turning into a joke for allowing this guy to do what he does. I'm just upset because foolish Cub fans continue to defend this guy like he was some kind of savior to the team (back to back winning season), I hope they know "5 outs from the World Series" means jack.

Clearly you were not around for the Don Kessinger era.

Not to hijack but here's a list of the all-time White Sox managers. I thought it was interesting reading. http://www.baseball-almanac.com/mgrtmcw.shtml

Johnny Mostil
09-07-2005, 09:30 AM
Not to hijack but here's a list of the all-time White Sox managers. I thought it was interesting reading. http://www.baseball-almanac.com/mgrtmcw.shtml

Why did Jim Fregosi's uniform number change from 16 to 17 to 18? (Trivial subject, I know, but no more trivial than the subject of Chicago NL managers, is it?)

Baby Fisk
09-07-2005, 09:44 AM
Tim Johnson managed the Blue Jays for one season (1998), then it was revealed that he had lied to his players about serving in Vietnam. Maybe not the worst job of managing ever, but an example of extremely bad judgement in telling lies like that. The controversy hounded him into spring training of 1999, where he was axed and the aforementioned Fregosi replaced him.

Fenway
09-07-2005, 10:13 AM
I never thought Grady Little was that bad of a manager. Dusty is absolutely useless. His pitchers always seem to get hurt and he blew a 5-run (?) lead to win the world series with bad managing.

I sense that the baseball industry feels Grady was not a good manager....he goes from 5 outs away from beating NYY to the Cubs roving catcher instructor



funny thing if Dusty goes, the Cubs could very well hire Grady to replace him

PeteWard
09-07-2005, 10:20 AM
Eddy Stanky. :o: :o:

Fenway
09-07-2005, 10:24 AM
Eddy Stanky. :o: :o:

I dunno, he may have been a complete jerk but he somehow kept the hitless wonders of 1967 in the race until the final week

Railsplitter
09-07-2005, 10:26 AM
Don Kessinger. Didn't last the whole 1979 season and left on his own accord.

LuvSox
09-07-2005, 10:32 AM
Shouldn't this be posted at Cubsinteractive.com?

Yes it should

TDog
09-07-2005, 12:21 PM
Back in the 1970s, Dave Baum, who I understand is still a Chicago radio moron, was touting Maury Wills as great managerial candidate. Wills was such an exciting player, after all. Wills got his chance with Seattle in 1980. Seattle was an expansion team, and not very good, but Maury Wills proved to everyone that he didn't know much about baseball.

They say that even the worst of teams will win a third of their games. Wills' managerial winning percentage over parts of two seasons was .317. It wasn't just his record, though. Players hated him, and on the bench he made Terry Bevington look like a genius.

SOXPHILE
09-07-2005, 12:30 PM
Anyone remember the Preston Gomez era of the Cubs ?

TaylorStSox
09-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Shouldn't this be posted at Cubsinteractive.com?


It was so bad last night that there was a thread about the Cubs game while the Sox game was still being played. :?:

CLR01
09-07-2005, 05:02 PM
Winning???


They haven't won anything yet. Even Jerry had an outstanding season in 2000.

ode to veeck
09-07-2005, 05:31 PM
Preston Gomez is right up there (down there) with this list and thread title

Tragg
09-07-2005, 05:46 PM
Maury Wills.

He would tell his pitching coach to get player X warmed up, only to be told that player X was in the minor leagues.

The Dude
09-07-2005, 11:40 PM
They haven't won anything yet. Even Jerry had an outstanding season in 2000.

Come on CLR, you know this team is much better than that 2000 team and Ozzie is a much better motivator than the ghandi.

BigEdWalsh
09-07-2005, 11:52 PM
I don't know if he was the worst but Bevington was certainly the creepiest.

PeteWard
09-07-2005, 11:55 PM
I dunno, he may have been a complete jerk but he somehow kept the hitless wonders of 1967 in the race until the final week

My error. Not Stanky. I was thinking of his succesor, Don Gutteridge.

Lip Man 1
09-08-2005, 12:16 AM
You folks never saw Don Gutteridge did ya?

Lip

BigEdWalsh
09-08-2005, 12:26 AM
I saw Gutteridge's Sox probably more than any other Sox team ever. I was in college at the time and used to go to LOTS of games in those days. Fond memories despite the horrid team.

eastchicagosoxfan
09-08-2005, 06:14 AM
I've read that Ted Williams was a terrible manager for the one season or so that he managed the Senators.

California Sox
09-08-2005, 06:45 AM
Two words for you, my man:



TERRY.....BEVINGTON

Case closed.

The Racehorse
09-08-2005, 07:24 AM
Ted Turner

Sox Blue 69-70
09-08-2005, 08:01 AM
Judge Emil Fuchs :cool:

BainesHOF
09-08-2005, 11:59 AM
In my Sox lifetime, Manuel edges Bevington as the worst. And, yes, I know how bad Bevington was.

dannycater
09-08-2005, 12:10 PM
two words....

LEE ELIA!!!

TommyJohn
09-08-2005, 12:19 PM
In my Sox lifetime, Manuel edges Bevington as the worst. And, yes, I know how bad Bevington was.



HUH?

Manuel doesn't even come close to the level of Bevington.

Fredsox
09-08-2005, 12:20 PM
two words....

LEE ELIA!!!

Lee Elia is my idol and the greatest cub manager in the history of the world. He told the truth and I will forever worship him for it.

tebman
09-08-2005, 12:45 PM
Ted Turner
:rolling:
Forgot about Ted "I can run this team" Turner!

antitwins13
09-08-2005, 07:54 PM
I got two words Don Baylor:whiner: :whiner: :whiner: