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charlotteknights
08-15-2005, 11:28 AM
Anderson was called up last night for Posednick. With such little time left in Charlotte's season, hopefully he'll stay up.

Optipessimism
08-15-2005, 11:31 AM
Yay!!!

No Willie!!

BigEdWalsh
08-15-2005, 11:32 AM
:D: HOORAY!! It's not Willie, hooray!!:D:

:)

charlotteknights
08-15-2005, 11:34 AM
Brian was called up late last night to fill the spot.

itsnotrequired
08-15-2005, 11:35 AM
Nice.

Rocky Soprano
08-15-2005, 11:39 AM
So Pods is on the DL?

Flight #24
08-15-2005, 11:45 AM
Importantly, this adds Brian to the 40-man, which as of this weekend he was not on (per the list on Whitesox.com). That takes Thomas' slot, so any further moves would require moving someone off of the 40-man.

Plus, it ensures that Anderson isn't being traded (i.e. for Griffey) since he'd now have to clear waivers.

shaunburnette
08-15-2005, 11:49 AM
So Pods is on the DL?

I guess we would have to assume so. Nothing official yet on the Sox site. IMO, putting Pods on the 15 day is a smart move. Give him some rest, get his legs back and get him back here ready to fly around the basepaths again. I think Anderson can throw some leather around out there plus he might impress us all with his bat. Kenny was hanging on to him for a reason, lets hope he plays to his potential.

Welcome Brian.

Brian26
08-15-2005, 12:02 PM
Wow, what a position for a young kid to be in. He gets called up well before Sept 1 and has a chance to cement a spot on the playoff roster with good play. This should be interesting. Ozzie loves Timo, so it might be a long shot that Anderson would take Timo's place for the playoffs.

Flight #24
08-15-2005, 12:09 PM
Conspiracy Theory: Reds are holding up KW to get Griffey. This is KW's attempt to see if he can fill in the offensive need in-house. If Anderson comes out hot, it at least gives the Sox better bargaining position. It doesn't really weaken the position since the alternative was Timo.Hopefully Brian gets a lot of PT and comes through. Then Griffey becomes easier to get.

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 12:11 PM
Importantly, this adds Brian to the 40-man, which as of this weekend he was not on (per the list on Whitesox.com). That takes Thomas' slot, so any further moves would require moving someone off of the 40-man.

Plus, it ensures that Anderson isn't being traded (i.e. for Griffey) since he'd now have to clear waivers.

So does that mean they move Frank to the 60 day DL?

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 12:12 PM
Importantly, this adds Brian to the 40-man, which as of this weekend he was not on (per the list on Whitesox.com). That takes Thomas' slot, so any further moves would require moving someone off of the 40-man.

Plus, it ensures that Anderson isn't being traded (i.e. for Griffey) since he'd now have to clear waivers.Thomas is still on the 40-man roster, since he's only on the 15-day DL and not the 60-day DL. IIRC, this gives them an extra space for the playoff roster.

Flight #24
08-15-2005, 12:17 PM
Thomas is still on the 40-man roster, since he's only on the 15-day DL and not the 60-day DL. IIRC, this gives them an extra space for the playoff roster.

Wait - if Thomas is still on the 40, then who did they move off to add Anderson? I thought they were a man short on the 40 because of Frank's injury, if that wasn't it then what was it that gave them the space?

Madvora
08-15-2005, 12:37 PM
After a whole segment with Bruce Levine on ESPN1000, there was no mention of Brian Anderson, so it can't be official from the Sox yet.

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 12:40 PM
Wait - if Thomas is still on the 40, then who did they move off to add Anderson? I thought they were a man short on the 40 because of Frank's injury, if that wasn't it then what was it that gave them the space?

As discussed earlier, since Frank is on the 15 day DL, he is still on the 40 man roster. IF they decide to move him to the 60 day DL, that frees up a spot on the 40 man. I don't think they will do this as having him on the 40 man in a DL slot gives them some extra flexibility when setting the playoff roster. I think whoever is on the 15 day DL on September 1st, that essentially is a free spot to do what they want with it. They can pretty much put anyone they want in those two slots, if they are on the 40 man. Even someone who did not play at all in the regular season with the Sox. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Brian26
08-15-2005, 12:44 PM
After a whole segment with Bruce Levine on ESPN1000, there was no mention of Brian Anderson, so it can't be official from the Sox yet.

The same Bruce Levine who yesterday morning didn't know that "Griffey has cleared waivers" meant that Griffey had been on waivers for more than 48 hours and all teams had not claimed him? Yeah, he's got his finger on the pulse of MLB.

Flight #24
08-15-2005, 12:48 PM
As discussed earlier, since Frank is on the 15 day DL, he is still on the 40 man roster. IF they decide to move him to the 60 day DL, that frees up a spot on the 40 man. I don't think they will do this as having him on the 40 man in a DL slot gives them some extra flexibility when setting the playoff roster. I think whoever is on the 15 day DL on September 1st, that essentially is a free spot to do what they want with it. They can pretty much put anyone they want in those two slots, if they are on the 40 man. Even someone who did not play at all in the regular season with the Sox. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I also thought they were operating with 39 on the 40-man roster, which gave flexibility to add a body via trade. I could be wrong. In any case, apparently it's either an unofficial callup (he's going to be around the team in case Pods needs to be DLd), or it's a bunch of hooey.

anewman35
08-15-2005, 12:52 PM
I also thought they were operating with 39 on the 40-man roster, which gave flexibility to add a body via trade. I could be wrong. In any case, apparently it's either an unofficial callup (he's going to be around the team in case Pods needs to be DLd), or it's a bunch of hooey.

The original poster was dead-on with the call ups of Gload and Atkins before any of the media was. That said, it might well be that he's just going to be around just in case he's needed.

Optipessimism
08-15-2005, 12:55 PM
Question:

Could KW remove a guy from the 40 man roster, like Smith or Reynoso for instance, without any penalties?

Flight #24
08-15-2005, 12:56 PM
Someone can confirm this, but if he IS called up/added to the 40-man, then his service time clock starts, and if he's sent down, this becomes his first "option year". Which means there would be only 2 more years in which they could have him on the 40 but not on the 25. not that that should be a problem since he was expected to be up to stay no later than next year.

Flight #24
08-15-2005, 12:57 PM
Question:

Could KW remove a guy from the 40 man roster, like Smith or Reynoso for instance, without any penalties?

IIRC, they have to clear waivers to do that. So any team would be free to claim them. My vote: Kevin Walker.

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 01:08 PM
IIRC, they have to clear waivers to do that. So any team would be free to claim them. My vote: Kevin Walker.Not necessarily. Some players are outrighted without passing through waivers. I'm not sure why some do and some don't. Is it because they haven't got enough minor league time to be subject to the Rule 5 draft?

Randar68
08-15-2005, 01:27 PM
After a whole segment with Bruce Levine on ESPN1000, there was no mention of Brian Anderson, so it can't be official from the Sox yet.

The original poster is there in Charlotte and has been ahead of the releases on several other moves. He's either with the team or has contacts who keep him updated on it. Never been specific.

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 01:40 PM
The original poster is there in Charlotte and has been ahead of the releases on several other moves. He's either with the team or has contacts who keep him updated on it. Never been specific.The Knights played a double-header yesterday and Anderson didn't play in either game. That suggests to me that there's truth to this.

Randar68
08-15-2005, 01:42 PM
The Knights played a double-header yesterday and Anderson didn't play in either game. That suggests to me that there's truth to this.

Anderson played in both games, but the post about Anderson leaving Charlotte was about the happennings following those games.

Game 1: http://minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&did=milb&t=g_box&gid=2005_08_14_ricaaa_chraaa_1

Game 2: http://minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&did=milb&t=g_box&gid=2005_08_14_ricaaa_chraaa_2

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 01:53 PM
Anderson played in both games, but the post about Anderson leaving Charlotte was about the happennings following those games.

Game 1: http://minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&did=milb&t=g_box&gid=2005_08_14_ricaaa_chraaa_1

Game 2: http://minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&did=milb&t=g_box&gid=2005_08_14_ricaaa_chraaa_2Oops. Brain cramp.

You're right about CK. He's been pretty reliable in the past. I'd tend to give him the benefit of the doubt.

santo=dorf
08-15-2005, 02:14 PM
IIRC, they have to clear waivers to do that. So any team would be free to claim them. My vote: Kevin Walker.

How about just putting Frank on the 60 day DL?

MisterB
08-15-2005, 02:14 PM
Someone can confirm this, but if he IS called up/added to the 40-man, then his service time clock starts, and if he's sent down, this becomes his first "option year". Which means there would be only 2 more years in which they could have him on the 40 but not on the 25. not that that should be a problem since he was expected to be up to stay no later than next year.

It all depends on timing. If Anderson is called up (which officially he hasn't yet) it is assumed Pods goes on the DL. If they make the DL assignment retroactive to Pods' last game, he'll be eligible to come back Aug. 28th. The key here is that rosters expand Sept. 1.

- If they activate Pods immediately, then Anderson is optioned to AAA for the last 4 days of the AAA season and this becomes his first option year.

- If they wait until Wednesday to put Pods on the DL and don't make it retroactive, he's eligible to come back Sept. 1 and Anderson wouldn't have to be optioned.

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 02:34 PM
It all depends on timing. If Anderson is called up (which officially he hasn't yet) it is assumed Pods goes on the DL. If they make the DL assignment retroactive to Pods' last game, he'll be eligible to come back Aug. 28th. The key here is that rosters expand Sept. 1.

- If they activate Pods immediately, then Anderson is optioned to AAA for the last 4 days of the AAA season and this becomes his first option year.

- If they wait until Wednesday to put Pods on the DL and don't make it retroactive, he's eligible to come back Sept. 1 and Anderson wouldn't have to be optioned.Nothing says they have to bring Pods back when his 15 days are up. If he's on the DL on Sept 1 he's still eligible for the playoff roster. In fact, if I understand the rules correctly, he becomes an extra player that's playoff eligible. That's why they won't put Frank on the 60-day DL. He is also a place holder. The beauty of it is that they can substitute ANY player for him, even if that player is not on the playoff roster. By keeping Frank and Pods on the DL until after Sept 1, they effectively have 27 players eligible for the playoff roster.

Chez
08-15-2005, 03:03 PM
Nothing says they have to bring Pods back when his 15 days are up. If he's on the DL on Sept 1 he's still eligible for the playoff roster. In fact, if I understand the rules correctly, he becomes an extra player that's playoff eligible. That's why they won't put Frank on the 60-day DL. He is also a place holder. The beauty of it is that they can substitute ANY player for him, even if that player is not on the playoff roster. By keeping Frank and Pods on the DL until after Sept 1, they effectively have 27 players eligible for the playoff roster.

Also known as the "K-Rod Exception."

bumptious96
08-15-2005, 04:43 PM
670 the score reporting anderson is "in the locker room"

they are saying that pods hasn't been placed on the dl, but it suggests he will soon.

shes
08-15-2005, 04:58 PM
I'd love to see him get the start over Timo tonight, but I doubt it'll happen.

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 05:03 PM
670 the score reporting anderson is "in the locker room"

they are saying that pods hasn't been placed on the dl, but it suggests he will soon.The 40-man roster is full. I wonder who they'll drop?

bumptious96
08-15-2005, 05:03 PM
Anderson is officially up.

Pods on DL retro to Saturday.

Per 670 the Score.

dcb33
08-15-2005, 05:04 PM
EDIT: Thanks for the info.

itsnotrequired
08-15-2005, 05:09 PM
White Sox Game Notes for today confirm this as well.

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 05:10 PM
White Sox Game Notes for today confirm this as well.

Where do you get these game notes?

itsnotrequired
08-15-2005, 05:12 PM
Where do you get these game notes?

Off the mlb.com site. Click on the "Scoreboard" link near the top of the page, left hand side. Click on the "Press Pass" link for any one of the games. There you go.

Oh, you have to be registered at mlb.com but it is free. Attached are today's notes:

http://presspass.mlb.com/docs/77/109/1700_1224.pdf

ARoman27
08-15-2005, 05:15 PM
Greg Walker just confirmed on a interview with 670 that Anderson is indeed in the clubhouse and Pods is out of action.

ndu3t4
08-15-2005, 05:17 PM
I love this move. I can't wait to see what this guy can do outside of Spring Training.

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 05:19 PM
Off the mlb.com site. Click on the "Scoreboard" link near the top of the page, left hand side. Click on the "Press Pass" link for any one of the games. There you go.

Oh, you have to be registered at mlb.com but it is free. Attached are today's notes:

http://presspass.mlb.com/docs/77/109/1700_1224.pdf

Thanks. For a big dork like me, that is pretty cool.

maurice
08-15-2005, 05:20 PM
The 40-man roster is full. I wonder who they'll drop?

Shouldn't be a problem. There's plenty of dead weight.

Smith? Wing?

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 05:22 PM
I think the 40 man was at 39. Kevin Walker was removed from the 40 man about a week after being optioned to AAA IIRC.

itsnotrequired
08-15-2005, 05:24 PM
Thanks. For a big dork like me, that is pretty cool.

The Game Notes are great. Lots of cool stats.

maurice
08-15-2005, 05:24 PM
The Chicago media is scooped by WSI once again.

Explain to me again why the boobs on WSCR and
WMVP can get credentials and we can't?

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 05:25 PM
I think the 40 man was at 39. Kevin Walker was removed from the 40 man about a week after being optioned to AAA IIRC.He's still listed on the Sox website.

He gone
08-15-2005, 05:28 PM
Mac, Jerko, and Carrie were saying he's been called up :?:


I say congrats Brian :gulp: http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/3080/0706051118sy.jpg

NSSoxFan
08-15-2005, 05:29 PM
Explain to me again why the boobs on WSCR and
WMVP can get credentials and we can't?

Because the Sox would rather make money from us via a "Core of the core" event. When it comes to credentials though, only stations like WSCR and WMVP who belittle our team are allowed.

Argalarga
08-15-2005, 05:32 PM
Man, he just looks like a ballplayer. Can't wait to see him in action.

BigEdWalsh
08-15-2005, 05:34 PM
Welcome to Chicago, Hollywood!:cool:

:supernana: :bandance: :supernana:

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 05:35 PM
Shouldn't be a problem. There's plenty of dead weight.

Smith? Wing?The press release says "The White Sox 40-man roster is now at 40." But the roster listed on the website already has 40. Anyone know what gives?

sthbndsox
08-15-2005, 05:35 PM
I'm excited to see him play. Wonder how long Ozzie will wait to give him that chance?

HotelWhiteSox
08-15-2005, 05:37 PM
ESPNEWS says Pods has been placed on the 15 day DL

maurice
08-15-2005, 05:38 PM
Because the Sox would rather make money from us via a "Core of the core" event.

But they gave up a "discounted" all-inclusive rate of only $58 per person to use an empty area on a weekday game against the worst team in baseball! Surely that's just a "thank you" for all we do for the team and not a profit-making venture!

Deuce
08-15-2005, 05:39 PM
Man oh man, am I thrilled. I'm a big Brian Anderson fan since meeting him at Spring Training. I'll keep all my fingers crossed for him.

Deuce

HotelWhiteSox
08-15-2005, 05:40 PM
He's not starting tonight though, Timo to lead off

BeviBall!
08-15-2005, 05:42 PM
He's not starting tonight though, Timo to lead off

Yep... and Blum in for Gooch. Ugh.

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 05:44 PM
He's still listed on the Sox website.

Well if he is still on the 40 man, the 40 man stands at 41. It was in a press release that he was removed. Not sure why they didn'te remove him on the Sox website.

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 05:48 PM
The press release says "The White Sox 40-man roster is now at 40." But the roster listed on the website already has 40. Anyone know what gives?

As I stated in a previous post, despite what the website says, Kevin Walker is not currently on the 40 man.


http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20050714&content_id=1130757&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

He gone
08-15-2005, 05:50 PM
Timo batting lead-off :o: I wonder if Hermy will give Brian # 32 :D:


http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2765/0806050063ma.jpg

MushMouth
08-15-2005, 05:51 PM
Yep... and Blum in for Gooch. Ugh.

Oh good lord


Timo-Blum on top of Uribe-Crede is maddening.

sthbndsox
08-15-2005, 05:54 PM
I'm definately not liking the frequent playing time Blum is getting. Isn't he like 2-21 since coming to the sox?

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 05:56 PM
I'm definately not liking the frequent playing time Blum is getting. Isn't he like 2-21 since coming to the sox?Would you rather see him starting in the playoffs? Relax. Ozzie is just giving his guys some rest.

maurice
08-15-2005, 06:00 PM
He's not starting tonight though, Timo to lead off
:thud: :kukoo:

maurice
08-15-2005, 06:15 PM
Official Release (http://whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20050815&content_id=1171295&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws)

Rosters still not updated.

rmusacch
08-15-2005, 06:19 PM
Timo batting lead-off :o: I wonder if Hermy will give Brian # 32 :D:


http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2765/0806050063ma.jpg

According to the game notes, he is 44.

The Wimperoo
08-15-2005, 06:21 PM
:thud: :kukoo:

I'm so tired of watching Timo Perez, let alone Timo Perez at leadoff or the 5 slot.

RowanDye
08-15-2005, 06:32 PM
How do you know Timo is leading off?? Where do you get the projected line-up from?

Unregistered
08-15-2005, 07:12 PM
How do you know Timo is leading off?? Where do you get the projected line-up from?More importantly, who the hell is "Rowan?" :D:

maurice
08-15-2005, 07:14 PM
Where do you get the projected line-up from?

Sox official 'blog (http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/inside_the_white_sox/).

santo=dorf
08-15-2005, 07:37 PM
According to the game notes, he is 44.

:bkoch:
"That's too bad for him."

charlotteknights
08-15-2005, 07:45 PM
Everyone here is excited for Brian. His biggest problem will be keeping his maturity level up in the clubhouse. Understanding that he is only 23, hopefully they will have patience with him. Fortunately, he makes up for his shortcomings on the field. Since it's so close to the Sept. call ups, and I could be wrong with this, I'm thinking that he will be there for the rest of the season. Charlotte wishes him all the best!:bandance:

DarkCloudDropo
08-15-2005, 07:49 PM
Everyone here is excited for Brian. His biggest problem will be keeping his maturity level up in the clubhouse. Understanding that he is only 23, hopefully they will have patience with him. Fortunately, he makes up for his shortcomings on the field. Since it's so close to the Sept. call ups, and I could be wrong with this, I'm thinking that he will be there for the rest of the season. Charlotte wishes him all the best!:bandance:

He played with these guys for a bit in the spring so i don't think there should be much problem with him meshing in now. I am anxious as everyone else to see how he does. I've always been high on the guy but RDivaldi isn't too high on him and i respect RD's opinion. I hope he's wrong.

DickAllen72
08-15-2005, 07:53 PM
Everyone here is excited for Brian. His biggest problem will be keeping his maturity level up in the clubhouse. Understanding that he is only 23, hopefully they will have patience with him. Fortunately, he makes up for his shortcomings on the field. Since it's so close to the Sept. call ups, and I could be wrong with this, I'm thinking that he will be there for the rest of the season. Charlotte wishes him all the best!:bandance:

Can you fill us in on things that don't show up in the stats? How would you rate his running speed and his throwing arm? Can he lay down a bunt? Is he proficient at hitting behind a runner? Is he a smart ballplayer?

Thanks!

Ol' No. 2
08-15-2005, 08:07 PM
Everyone here is excited for Brian. His biggest problem will be keeping his maturity level up in the clubhouse. Understanding that he is only 23, hopefully they will have patience with him. Fortunately, he makes up for his shortcomings on the field. Since it's so close to the Sept. call ups, and I could be wrong with this, I'm thinking that he will be there for the rest of the season. Charlotte wishes him all the best!:bandance:Any insight into why they're not bringing Gload back up? I don't get it.

SOXfnNlansing
08-15-2005, 08:11 PM
Any insight into why they're not bringing Gload back up? I don't get it. we have Blum!

charlotteknights
08-15-2005, 09:10 PM
In my opinion, for what it's worth, Brian is major league in both running and throwing. As far as bunting, he hasn't been asked to do so this year in any of the games that I've seen. He's not proficient at bat moving the runners over and as far as a smart "baseball" player, I would say that he is still learning. But he is definitely the real deal. He has all five tools. As far as why Gload hasn't been called back up, it's a mystery to me. He proved last year that if given enough at bats he will produce and he gives 100 % when on the field.

He gone
08-15-2005, 09:19 PM
I got to see Brian twice this year and once last year with the Barons. What really impressed me was how well he covered centerfield. He has speed to cut balls off and he has a stronge arm. He looked a little big for a centerfielder, but like I said he looked pretty good out there.

Stroker Ace
08-15-2005, 10:46 PM
Got to see that Pods is going to get some much needed rest. Thanks Kenny for not bringing up Willie!!!:D:

tetrakarbon
08-16-2005, 06:30 PM
A poster had a link to the effect that Walker had been outrighted at some point. But he still appears on the 40-man roster on the White Sox website. Who's to say which is correct?

Not that I don't believe the poster - someone had to be removed at some point.

-- Ned Ruggeri