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cheeses_h_rice
08-10-2005, 11:05 AM
In its story (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/sports/baseball/10yanks.html?) on last night's game:

Hermanson would need only one pitch for the save. Williams swung at it and sent a screamer down the first-base line. Konerko was guarding the line and snared it for the final out.

:redface:

The Dude
08-10-2005, 11:07 AM
In its story (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/sports/baseball/10yanks.html?) on last night's game:



:redface:

I am completely shocked!!!!

Iwritecode
08-10-2005, 11:07 AM
In its story (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/sports/baseball/10yanks.html?) on last night's game:



:redface:

Well that makes 3 people now. Rooney got it wrong and so did Hawk...

LuvSox
08-10-2005, 11:08 AM
So did Hawk, but at least he got wrapped up in the moment.

BRDSR
08-10-2005, 11:08 AM
In its story (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/sports/baseball/10yanks.html?) on last night's game:



:redface:

To their credit, Ken "The Hawk" Harrelson also called the play as "Shot down the right field line, CAUGHT by Konerko!" Guess nobody could get it right.

cheeses_h_rice
08-10-2005, 11:09 AM
How about "The Invisible Man" for Blum's nickname?

:)

BeviBall!
08-10-2005, 11:16 AM
Did Blum come in to start the inning, or when Herm came in?

skottyj242
08-10-2005, 11:19 AM
I was laughing pretty hard when Hawk messed that up and DJ corrected him after the commercial break.

Jerko
08-10-2005, 11:19 AM
ESPN got it wrong too, big surprise. They showed Konerko's homer and then they showed the final play and said "guess who ended it? Rhode Island Boy Paul Konerko".

buehrle4cy05
08-10-2005, 05:14 PM
ESPN got it wrong too, big surprise. They showed Konerko's homer and then they showed the final play and said "guess who ended it? Rhode Island Boy Paul Konerko".

At least they got his home state right.

Chips
08-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Did Blum come in to start the inning, or when Herm came in?

I think Blum was there for all of the ninth.

faneidde
08-10-2005, 05:28 PM
More proof of media bias against the Sox.

downstairs
08-10-2005, 05:31 PM
At least they got his home state right.

Rhode Island is in the east. Of course they did.

MarySwiss
08-10-2005, 06:01 PM
At least they got his home state right.

Well, I guess it's a question of how you define "home." He was born in Rhode Island, but he lives in Arizona offseason, and--I believe--he also went to high school here. I was born in Chicago and that's where I'm from, but I consider my "home" state to be where I live NOW, which is Arizona.

However, I must admit that whenever I go back to Chicago, I always tell people I'm going "home." But I lived in Chicago most of my life, so that's a bit different.

I wonder what Paulie would say if anyone asked him what his "home state" is?

maurice
08-10-2005, 06:15 PM
The Times making stuff up? That would never happen.

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Jerko
08-10-2005, 06:18 PM
Rhode Island is in the east. Of course they did.

Plus, he was featured on the RI version of "50 states in 50 days" I believe, and far be it from ESPN to toot their own horn.

Mercy!
08-10-2005, 06:27 PM
Golly gee whiz, can we just put this one to bed without conflating it with incompetence, negligence, and plagiarism? If our own announcers can goof on this call, I’m thinking it’s not such a big deal that others did, too. Here’s the correction The NYT posted:

"Correction: Aug. 10, 2005, Wednesday:

A sports article in some copies about the Yankees' 2-1 loss to the White Sox and a picture caption, also in only some copies, referred incorrectly to the final play of the game. Bernie Williams lined out to White Sox first baseman Geoff Blum, a defensive replacement in the ninth inning, not to Paul Konerko"
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/sports/baseball/10yanks.html

Hondo
08-10-2005, 06:54 PM
Golly gee whiz, can we just put this one to bed without conflating it with incompetence, negligence, and plagiarism? If our own announcers can goof on this call, I’m thinking it’s not such a big deal that others did, too. Here’s the correction The NYT posted:

"Correction: Aug. 10, 2005, Wednesday:

A sports article in some copies about the Yankees' 2-1 loss to the White Sox and a picture caption, also in only some copies, referred incorrectly to the final play of the game. Bernie Williams lined out to White Sox first baseman Geoff Blum, a defensive replacement in the ninth inning, not to Paul Konerko"
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/sports/baseball/10yanks.html


Thank You!!! TV guys sure get a hell of a pass when they mess up but newspaper guys get crucified.

TornLabrum
08-10-2005, 07:12 PM
Thank You!!! TV guys sure get a hell of a pass when they mess up but newspaper guys get crucified.

A TV pbp announcer (or radio, too, for that matter) has to tell what is happening as it happens. On the other hand, a newspaper reporter has a little time to do some fact checking before submitting a story.

Hondo
08-10-2005, 07:14 PM
A TV pbp announcer (or radio, too, for that matter) has to tell what is happening as it happens. On the other hand, a newspaper reporter has a little time to do some fact checking before submitting a story.

Yeah but this guy was probably at deadline, typed that line and blasted it off. That's my guess at least

TornLabrum
08-10-2005, 07:31 PM
Yeah but this guy was probably at deadline, typed that line and blasted it off. That's my guess at least

The only reason I can guess that so many people got it wrong is that the official scorer forgot to mention the change over the intercom. As for the Times reporter getting it wrong for being at deadline, I have no idea what time the deadline is, but the game ended sometime around 10:15 p.m. EDT, didn't it?

Hondo
08-10-2005, 07:39 PM
The only reason I can guess that so many people got it wrong is that the official scorer forgot to mention the change over the intercom. As for the Times reporter getting it wrong for being at deadline, I have no idea what time the deadline is, but the game ended sometime around 10:15 p.m. EDT, didn't it?

I think it ended a bit later and I wouldn't be suprised at a 10 p.m. deadline for something that's put online. Because the correction did say some copies so it was probably from an early run.

TornLabrum
08-10-2005, 07:41 PM
I think it ended a bit later and I wouldn't be suprised at a 10 p.m. deadline for something that's put online. Because the correction did say some copies so it was probably from an early run.

That would explain it.

Hondo
08-10-2005, 07:46 PM
That would explain it.

Game time was 3:20 so that puts the last play at 10:25 EDT.
This guy gets a pass.
Feature writers getting this kind of stuff wrong don't.

Mercy!
08-10-2005, 07:52 PM
Hey Hondo – any chance your nickname is in honor of the original "Big Frank"?


A TV pbp announcer (or radio, too, for that matter) has to tell what is happening as it happens. On the other hand, a newspaper reporter has a little time to do some fact checking before submitting a story.
Well, yeah, but………………..

If you listened to our very own Hawk make that emotion-filled, game-ending call last night, you surely noticed that there was a somewhat extended DEAD silence afterward until ol’ DJ picked him up with something to the effect that yes, it was a fine play by Geoff Blum. No mea culpa from either of them, and who would have expected such, anyway. Great game, game over, anyone really following the action knew what the deal was. No harm, no foul.

But, applying your rules here, all The NYT needed to do to be at parity with the above would have been to have corrected all later print and online copy, but NOWHERE admit that they had made an (innocuous) error. However, they adhere to a higher standard.

Hondo
08-10-2005, 07:55 PM
Hey Hondo – any chance your nickname is in honor of the original "Big Frank"?



Well, yeah, but………………..

If you listened to our very own Hawk make that emotion-filled, game-ending call last night, you surely noticed that there was a somewhat extended DEAD silence afterward until ol’ DJ picked him up with something to the effect that yes, it was a fine play by Geoff Blum. No mea culpa from either of them, and who would have expected such, anyway. Great game, game over, anyone really following the action knew what the deal was. No harm, no foul.

But, applying your rules here, all The NYT needed to do to be at parity with the above would have been to have corrected all later print and online copy, but NOWHERE admit that they had made an (innocuous) error. However, they adhere to a higher standard.



Kinda. It's a nickname I have but my intent for this website was for Howard. My brother was a big Frank Howard fan and having never seen him play (I'm 24) I looked into him and was fascinated by his size, strength and game.
Then hearing Hawk tell some great stories about him sealed the deal.

Mercy!
08-10-2005, 08:30 PM
Kinda. It's a nickname I have but my intent for this website was for Howard. My brother was a big Frank Howard fan and having never seen him play (I'm 24) I looked into him and was fascinated by his size, strength and game.
Then hearing Hawk tell some great stories about him sealed the deal.
:hijacked:
Neat! I don’t really have any distinct memories of seeing Frank Howard play in person, since I was only taken to one or two Washington Senators ("First in war, first in peace, last in the American League") games as a child But I followed them religiously on the radio and in the two major city newspapers, and Hondo was my favorite player.

I about fell over the first time I heard Hawk say they roomed together on the road. I’m always happy to hear any stories he has to tell. But it’s a bit creepy when he always seems to include Howard’s body dimensions, down to the circumference of his waist. Not that there’s anything WRONG with that.:anon:

shoota
08-10-2005, 11:11 PM
The Times making stuff up? That would never happen.

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:rolling:

soxfan1965
08-11-2005, 05:52 AM
NY Times issued a correction:

Correction: Aug. 10, 2005, Wednesday:

A sports article in some copies about the Yankees' 2-1 loss to the White Sox and a picture caption, also in only some copies, referred incorrectly to the final play of the game. Bernie Williams lined out to White Sox first baseman Geoff Blum, a defensive replacement in the ninth inning, not to Paul Konerko.

Mercy!
08-11-2005, 02:39 PM
NY Times issued a correction:

Correction: Aug. 10, 2005, Wednesday:

A sports article in some copies about the Yankees' 2-1 loss to the White Sox and a picture caption, also in only some copies, referred incorrectly to the final play of the game. Bernie Williams lined out to White Sox first baseman Geoff Blum, a defensive replacement in the ninth inning, not to Paul Konerko.
.

Stroker Ace
08-11-2005, 06:54 PM
Yeah but this guy was probably at deadline, typed that line and blasted it off. That's my guess at leastYeah, there is a lot of deadline pressure for newspapers. I had to work with it while writing a race report on the Hambletonian Oaks for some paper in Delaware. Unfortunately, my Trib advance never saw the paper.:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: