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Brian26
07-30-2005, 01:22 PM
Torborg on Fox right now talking about Frank and Ozzie. Man, was that 1990 season 15 years ago??? Seems like it was just yesterday. Torborg is the man.

SOXSINCE'70
07-30-2005, 03:33 PM
Those 1990-91 seasons were largely responsible for Sox fans
raising their expectations year after year.Previous to 1990,
the Sox had suffered through 6 losing seasons (1984-89).
The big turnaround started in the second half of the '89
debacle and spilled over to the '90 season with the Sox
edging the Brewers on the last opening day of old Comiskey,
2-1. Bobby Thigpen got the first of his 57 saves that day.:cool:

God,I miss Torborg and the old "White Sox Weekly"
program he used to do with Tom Paciorek on SportsChannel.:(:

jdm2662
07-30-2005, 03:36 PM
That was the summer when I started eighth grade. Yes, it was a looonnnnng time ago. It's still my favorite Sox team of all time. Hopefully, this year will top it off.
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firejauron
07-30-2005, 04:23 PM
Those early 90's teams were a lot of fun to watch. The future was so bright with Big Frank, Robin, Black Jack, Fernandez and Alvarez. I really enjoyed having Torborg as the skipper.

Ol' No. 2
07-30-2005, 05:10 PM
Pretty surreal watching a game where the announcers actually had something good to say about Ozzie and the Sox.

Brian26
07-30-2005, 05:15 PM
God,I miss Torborg and the old "White Sox Weekly"
program he used to do with Tom Paciorek on SportsChannel.:(:

Yeah, I LOVED those shows and actually still have some of them on tape. Do you remember the one when they opened the show and Torborg was sitting there in the new White Sox road uniform? Must have been sometime in August of 1990. That was a total shock to me because I hadn't heard they were going to switch the unis. They had a segment later in the show showing Fisk and Ozzie modeling the new uniforms. Torborg talked about how classy the old English SOX was and the sock on the sleeve. Great surprise.

hose
07-30-2005, 06:26 PM
Pretty surreal watching a game where the announcers actually had something good to say about Ozzie and the Sox.

I thoroughly enjoy listening to Torborg. It's nice to hear some positive stuff about the team for a change.

RadioheadRocks
07-30-2005, 09:11 PM
Those 1990-91 seasons were largely responsible for Sox fans
raising their expectations year after year.Previous to 1990,
the Sox had suffered through 6 losing seasons (1984-89).
The big turnaround started in the second half of the '89
debacle and spilled over to the '90 season with the Sox
edging the Brewers on the last opening day of old Comiskey,
2-1. Bobby Thigpen got the first of his 57 saves that day.:cool:

God,I miss Torborg and the old "White Sox Weekly"
program he used to do with Tom Paciorek on SportsChannel.:(:

Good point, with an albeit slight correction... the 1985 White Sox finished with a record of 85-77 (.524 winning percentage). Wasn't exactly the season dreams were made of, but with Ozzie's Rookie of the Year season, Tom Seaver winning #300 and the Cubs floundering after their 1984 fluke, I enjoyed that season for the most part.

nordhagen
07-30-2005, 11:03 PM
Torborg has always been a first-class guy and it's a shame he didn't get a chance to ride out what he started and we were saddled with Sleepy Gene. I remember early in the 1990 season my best friend and I lived in Lincoln Park and went to eat at Ranalli's and he was there with some people. We went up and thanked him for everything he was doing and how he was changing things around and he was very gracious and accomodating. I'll always remember the last home games of his Sox tenure in 1991 in a meaningless doubleheader with the Twins. The second game went really long and everyone knew he was going to be gone after the season. The Sox won and there were maybe a couple of hundred people left in the park and he took a bunch of time to flip a bunch of baseballs to some of the fans still around.

We also jokingly referred to him as Jeff Tuborg on occasion. That's for all you older bad beer drinkers out there.

:gulp:

RadioheadRocks
07-30-2005, 11:05 PM
We also jokingly referred to him as Jeff Tuborg on occasion. That's for all you older bad beer drinkers out there.

:gulp:


Boy that brings back memories of my beer can collection days of the mid-late 70s. :D:

iamkoza
07-31-2005, 01:31 AM
I thoroughly enjoy listening to Torborg. It's nice to hear some positive stuff about the team for a change.

at the same time, it felt like a freaking white sox love fest... torborg complemented everyone in the white sox organization... i think he even gave a shout out to the grounds crew

mrwag
07-31-2005, 07:09 AM
The 1990 White Sox is still my favorite team of all time. This year could be on an even par. But, that was also the year I turned 16 and all the fond memories that go along with that. Those were some good times...

Urban Legend
07-31-2005, 11:59 AM
Maybe some of the younger Sox fans don't know this about Torborg - and it's a great trivia question - but Torborg set and still holds the record for the highest batting average for Division I college baseball. He hit .537 for Rutgers one season!

'Torborg reportedly received the Los Angeles Dodgers (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/L/Los_Angeles_Dodgers.stm)' first $100,000 bonus in 1963 when he was signed out of Rutgers, where his .537 batting average in his senior year set an NCAA record which still stands. Though he stayed with LA from 1964 through 1970, he was always a backup catcher, behind Johnny Roseboro (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/R/Roseboro_Johnny.stm) and Tom Haller (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/H/Haller_Tom.stm). In California, Torborg found himself on the receiving end of some of the most memorable games in Dodger history. He caught Sandy Koufax (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/K/Koufax_Sandy.stm)'s perfect game on September 9, 1965 (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/chronology/1965SEPTEMBER.stm#day9), Bill Singer (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/S/Singer_Bill.stm)'s no-hitter on July 20, 1970 (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/chronology/1970JULY.stm#day20), and the fifth of Don Drysdale (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/D/Drysdale_Don.stm)'s six consecutive 1968 shutouts. Later as an Angel, Torborg caught Nolan Ryan (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/R/Ryan_Nolan.stm)'s May 15, 1973 (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/chronology/1973MAY.stm#day15) no-hitter.'

I enjoy Torborg's commentary on telecasts and broadcasts. He really gives you the 'game within the game,' along with his own experiences with some self-deprecating humor. Living in Ohio, Fox Sports locally yesterday chose to give us Yankees-Cardinals (even though Chicago is four hundred miles closer than New York from us). Having to suffer through Tim McCarver belaboring every point, and Joe Buck, Joe Buck is not his dad, that's for sure. I do get to listen to the Sox on the 'net, though.

I have a 1990 tape of a CBS late July Saturday afternoon game at Old Comiskey where Ozzie hits a two run single off Dan Plesac of the Brewers in the bottom of the ninth to win it, 4-3. It was a hot, muggy, Saturday afternoon (I went to the game and sat in left field, lower deck, right against the arches, breeze coming through, shoes off, propped up, keepin' score, beer in one hand, wearin' my 1917 Sox hat....great memory). Sammy Sosa led off that game with a home run and also hit a double and made a nice catch or two. CBS had great overhead shots of New Comiskey being built alongside Old Comiskey, the new stadium dwarfing the old. Jim Kaat and Dick Stockton did the broadcast in the old, rickety, cramped booth overhanging the second deck. I've watched the tape so many times I'm afraid to put it in the VCR again....might have get it transferred to DVD.
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TomBradley72
07-31-2005, 12:33 PM
Best example of what the 1990 team was all about. Late season series at Fenway...late September....I think the BoSox were still in the hunt...WSox had been eliminated. The Pale Hose played them fiercely....looking great in the new uniforms....only playing for pride...a great "playoff caliber" series.

The 1990 team was right up there with 1977, 1972, 1983, 1993, and 2000.

Brian26
07-31-2005, 12:40 PM
Best example of what the 1990 team was all about. Late season series at Fenway...late September....I think the BoSox were still in the hunt...WSox had been eliminated. The Pale Hose played them fiercely....looking great in the new uniforms....only playing for pride...a great "playoff caliber" series.

The 1990 team was right up there with 1977, 1972, 1983, 1993, and 2000.

The "phantom catch" game. Ozzie hits a sinking liner deep down the rightfield line....and the Red Sox rightfielder (was it Brunansky?) supposedly caught it, but nobody ever really saw the play end, as people in the corner blocked the umps view, and the celebration began while the Sox protested.

jdm2662
07-31-2005, 01:03 PM
The "phantom catch" game. Ozzie hits a sinking liner deep down the rightfield line....and the Red Sox rightfielder (was it Brunansky?) supposedly caught it, but nobody ever really saw the play end, as people in the corner blocked the umps view, and the celebration began while the Sox protested.

That game has been shown on ESPN Classic quite a bit. The home plate umpire didn't leave the field for quite some time because he wasn't convinced the catch was made. Gary Thorne didn't think he made the catch, either. He thought he saw the ball drop. I started hating Fenway Park after that series.
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Dan H
07-31-2005, 05:08 PM
The 1990 White Sox is still my favorite team of all time. This year could be on an even par. But, that was also the year I turned 16 and all the fond memories that go along with that. Those were some good times...

Not my all time favorite, but it ranks way up there. Nobody knew or understood how they won, they just won. If there had been a wild card that year, the Sox would have have it easily. A great, over-achieving team.

mrwag
07-31-2005, 05:48 PM
That game has been shown on ESPN Classic quite a bit. The home plate umpire didn't leave the field for quite some time because he wasn't convinced the catch was made. Gary Thorne didn't think he made the catch, either. He thought he saw the ball drop. I started hating Fenway Park after that series.
That should have been Hawk and Wimpy, not Thorne. Hawk replaced Thorne in 1990.

Lip Man 1
07-31-2005, 09:35 PM
Gary Thorne called the game for ESPN, they showed it that night.

Lip