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downstairs
07-23-2005, 11:09 AM
I am curious as to what is the largest lead the franchise has ever had in 1st place. Middle of season, end of season, whatever.

I know we ended the season 20 up in 1983 (or largest lead at the finish of a season, I believe).

But I'm curious if we've ever lead more than 20 games at any point in any season?

Lip Man 1
07-23-2005, 12:09 PM
Twenty is the franchise record.

Lip

Hitmen77
07-23-2005, 05:24 PM
If I'm thinking this through correctly, I'd say it would be practically impossible for a team to have a 20 game lead before divisions were established in 1969. You really wouldn't have a situation where one team was fantastic and everyone else in the league was under .500. After divisions came into being, then you could have a situation where a .600 team shared a division with a bunch of under .500 teams and the remaining good team in the league were in the other division(s) - as happened in the 1983 AL West.

IIRC, the Sox 20 game lead to end the 1983 season was an MLB record at the time.

kojak
07-23-2005, 09:57 PM
IIRC, the Sox 20 game lead to end the 1983 season was an MLB record at the time.

That is correct. It was eclipsed a few seasons later by the 1986 Mets, who won the NL East by 21.5 games over the Phillies.

Ironically, the Sox finished 20 games behind the California Angels of America in the AL West

TommyJohn
07-24-2005, 09:11 AM
If I'm thinking this through correctly, I'd say it would be practically impossible for a team to have a 20 game lead before divisions were established in 1969. You really wouldn't have a situation where one team was fantastic and everyone else in the league was under .500. After divisions came into being, then you could have a situation where a .600 team shared a division with a bunch of under .500 teams and the remaining good team in the league were in the other division(s) - as happened in the 1983 AL West.

IIRC, the Sox 20 game lead to end the 1983 season was an MLB record at the time.

Actually, for the MLB record of that time, you need to go all the way back to
1902. The Pittsburgh Pirates went an ungodly 103-36, for a winning pct. of
.741, and finished 27.5 games ahead of second place Brooklyn. The 1906 Cubs finished 20 ahead of New York.

I believe the record is now held by the 1995 Cleveland Indians, who finished
30 games ahead of second place Kansas City. But 27.5 was the record before
'95.