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cheeses_h_rice
07-13-2005, 03:08 PM
For the life of me, I cannot figure out why his offensive production has dropped off so much this year. (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bal-te.sp.sosa12jul12,1,4241437.story?page=1&coll=bal-pe-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true)

Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

PaulDrake
07-13-2005, 03:12 PM
You know I haven't read this yet but I can tell it's going to break my heart.

Iwritecode
07-13-2005, 03:13 PM
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To get past the registration...

cheeses_h_rice
07-13-2005, 03:21 PM
"I keep thinking he'll turn it around," said Gene Millen, who wore a T-shirt with Sosa's name and No. 21 to a recent game. "But I also keep thinking about all the steroid rumors. I think if he did use steroids, then he's done."

I hate to break it to this guy, but <whispers>there's a slight chance your hero might have used steroids.

Madvora
07-13-2005, 04:05 PM
"I think Sammy is a great guy," Clemens said. "A lot of these people who are booing him, you can tell they've never picked up a ball in their life.

Huh?

Deuce
07-13-2005, 04:09 PM
Its simple math.

NL pitchers + Small Park + Steriods = Sammy Sosa circa 1998

AL pitchers + Small Park - Steroids = Sammy Sosa circa 2005

Deuce

whitesoxfan
07-13-2005, 04:50 PM
"You watch: As he gets closer to 600 home runs, a lot of people are going to suddenly act like it's the greatest thing in the world. The way he's being treated is bush-league, and I think he's showing a lot of class."

give me a break, the guy's an absolute joke.

I think it'd be great if he doesn't get 600 homers this year and then a team like the Devil Rays would pick him up next year. Hey if that happens, at least he won't get booed everytime he steps up to the plate.

Stroker Ace
07-13-2005, 05:57 PM
Its simple math.

NL pitchers + Small Park + Steriods = Sammy Sosa circa 1998

AL pitchers + Small Park - Steroids = Sammy Sosa circa 2005

DeuceMark those equasions wrong for absence of cork.:D:

SOXSINCE'70
07-13-2005, 06:06 PM
:whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner:


NOT!!!!!! :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

SOXfnNlansing
07-13-2005, 08:08 PM
:whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner:

Hangar18
07-13-2005, 08:13 PM
Lets not forget ........hes in the American League now. REAL PITCHING
none of this homering off of AA pitchers or guys named Urkel

mealfred13
07-13-2005, 09:13 PM
Its simple math.

NL pitchers + Small Park + Steriods = Sammy Sosa circa 1998

AL pitchers + Small Park - Steroids = Sammy Sosa circa 2005

Deuce

Therefore it can be shown that:

Sammy Sosa circa 2005 = Sammy Sosa circa 1989

QED.

wsbaseball9
07-13-2005, 09:51 PM
Its simple math.

NL pitchers + Small Park + Steriods = Sammy Sosa circa 1998

AL pitchers + Small Park - Steroids = Sammy Sosa circa 2005

Deuce

for a second there i was about to say very very insightful for new to the sight until i saw the sig

wsbaseball9
07-13-2005, 09:55 PM
"You watch: As he gets closer to 600 home runs, a lot of people are going to suddenly act like it's the greatest thing in the world. The way he's being treated is bush-league, and I think he's showing a lot of class."

give me a break, the guy's an absolute joke.

I think it'd be great if he doesn't get 600 homers this year and then a team like the Devil Rays would pick him up next year. Hey if that happens, at least he won't get booed everytime he steps up to the plate.

the guy said in an interview roughly along the lines of
"im going to stay until i have 700 homers, because i'm a great hitter and i deserve that honor"

this guy is one of the most selfish players in the game possibly ever, he wont stay around to try to get a WS ring, no no, 700 homers is far more important

and yes i am saying 700 not 600, 700

Ol' No. 2
07-13-2005, 10:09 PM
the guy said in an interview roughly along the lines of
"im going to stay until i have 700 homers, because i'm a great hitter and i deserve that honor"

this guy is one of the most selfish players in the game possibly ever, he wont stay around to try to get a WS ring, no no, 700 homers is far more important

and yes i am saying 700 not 600, 700Why stop at only 700?

Deuce
07-14-2005, 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by Deuce
Its simple math.

NL pitchers + Small Park + Steriods = Sammy Sosa circa 1998

AL pitchers + Small Park - Steroids = Sammy Sosa circa 2005

Deuce
Therefore it can be shown that:

Sammy Sosa circa 2005 = Sammy Sosa circa 1989

QED.
Worse. In 1989, the White Sox were still in the old park. The old park was a large ballpark that was converted to a average sized one by today's standard. Therefore:

AL Pitchers + Average Sized Ballpark - Steriods = Sammy Sosa circa 1989

So:

Sammy Sosa circa 2005 < Sammy Sosa circa 1989 < Sammy Sosa circa 1998

Deuce

StockdaleForVeep
07-14-2005, 01:14 AM
No wonder bonds has been out so long, he needed to see how the lack of steroids directly affected a player who's career numbers are based solely on them

Speakin of bonds, is he clean? I recall MLB stated they random tested him, and they never said he was positive or negative

StillMissOzzie
07-14-2005, 01:48 AM
Worse. In 1989, the White Sox were still in the old park. The old park was a large ballpark that was converted to a average sized one by today's standard. Therefore:

AL Pitchers + Average Sized Ballpark - Steriods = Sammy Sosa circa 1989
So:

Sammy Sosa circa 2005 < Sammy Sosa circa 1989 < Sammy Sosa circa 1998

Deuce

IMHO, since the earliest Sosa was before ANY suspected chemical help, I believe that the proper equation should simply omit steroids, as:

AL Pitchers + Average Sized Ballpark = Sammy Sosa circa 1989 [eg, trade bait]

However, you do have the inequalities shown correctly. Sosa today is less than he ever was, both before and after any suspected chemical help.
SMO
:gulp:

TornLabrum
07-14-2005, 08:25 AM
After reading this article about poor Sammy, I wanted to cry. Unfortunately I don't have a crocodile to produce the tears for me.

Baby Fisk
07-14-2005, 08:34 AM
No wonder bonds has been out so long, he needed to see how the lack of steroids directly affected a player who's career numbers are based solely on them

Speakin of bonds, is he clean? I recall MLB stated they random tested him, and they never said he was positive or negative
If this is the kind of "deflation" Sammy is experiencing, Bonds would suffer the same fate if he tries a comeback. But remember -- he will have lost all that muscle in order to live longer, as he indicated a few months ago. :rolleyes:

The Racehorse
07-14-2005, 08:41 AM
"In '98 and for a while leading up to '98, he (Sosa) was like a cartoon character. He could do no wrong," said Dan McGrath, associate managing editor for sports at the Chicago Tribune."

You can say that again... question for Dan McGrath; who's responsible for that?

cheeses_h_rice
07-14-2005, 11:37 AM
If this is the kind of "deflation" Sammy is experiencing, Bonds would suffer the same fate if he tries a comeback. But remember -- he will have lost all that muscle in order to live longer, as he indicated a few months ago. :rolleyes:

IMO, Bonds is a better hitter than the Shamster, so his numbers wouldn't drop off as much. Sham-ME* relied on pure muscle to get balls to fly out of the park, while Bonds's swing seemed 'sweeter'.

Madvora
07-14-2005, 12:25 PM
This would be the last year of Sosa's contract right?
I wonder where he'll end up next year. Man, what a drop in salary he's going to have!

I think someone mentioned it earlier, but it will probably be Tampa Bay or something. He'll rot down there and hope that he can go somewhere to be their savior. His career will end with an injury and he'll go out with a wimper and totally unnoticed.

How sad.

mccoydp
07-14-2005, 04:02 PM
Poor Sammy.

:shammy

"I'm only so skinny because I've been doing Atkins...man, what results! I run a lot too!"

Chicago83
07-14-2005, 10:20 PM
Therefore it can be shown that:

Sammy Sosa circa 2005 = Sammy Sosa circa 1989

QED.

Except that he can't run anymore! I'd take the '89 Sammy.

iamkoza
07-14-2005, 10:52 PM
it literally looks like he's lost 10" on those biceps of his. Upper body looks about 50% of his previous roid size. I wonder how small Barry Bonds will look next year? Probably 1990 Barry size