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Viva Medias B's
07-08-2005, 11:26 PM
I was at the game tonight. I should say most of the game. My father and I normally stay for the whole game, regardless of the score. We planned to stay not only for all the game but the Rat Pack concert and the fireworks. However, we decided to leave for home during the 7th inning tonight because of the drunken jerks around us.

Why the hell is it that people think a ticket to the ballgame gives them the right to act like drillrods? In the row in front of us and the row in back of us, we had loud drunks. Each of the vermin around us had the 5+ stack of beer cups going. There were Sox fans around us and fans cheering for Oakland around us. Instead of following the game, one group was more interested in betting what the next play would be or betting what the attendance would be. Meanwhile, the other group was intersted in trash talking against the Sox and dropping as many F-bombs as possible. One person in their group was obviously not holding their liqour, and that person spilled beer on some little girls sitting in front. This was the same person who used their middle finger as often as she inhales toward the other group.

Eventually their drillrod behavior got the attention of the other group. Toward the end of this most uncomfortable experience, someone in one group told the middle finger waver something prompting this person to start crying. After that, a person from their group threatened the other group. It was then my father and I decided to leave in disgust. We felt things would escalate which they may have by now.

I did not like how the Sox were playing tonight (let's just cut Willie Harris' silly arse), and that lineup was hideous. However, they were the least of my issues this evening. I feel that because of the drunken pieces of crap, we were cheated out of the Rat Pack concert and fireworks. If I wanted to experience that crap at a ballgame, I'd go to g**damn Wrigley Field! I have a real problem when this drunken crap comes to our ballpark. It almost wants me to wish they would ban alcohol sales at the ballpark, and this is coming from someone who loves beer.

I realize that is not a rational option, but I am sick and tired of the crap caused by others acting like asses because of their drinking. Furthermore, the benign GSR did nothing about fans smoking in the section next to us. "Ernesto," turned a blind eye to that. I hate smoking, and I believe that people smoking in the stands should leave the ballpark in handcuffs.

You may ask why I did not ask "Ernesto" or Sox Security to invervene. I feel that it's not my nor any other fan's job to tell "Ernesto" how to do his job. BTW, Sox Security was nowhere to be found in my area tonight. Normally, they patrol my aisle at least every other inning. We could have gone somewhere else to watch the game, but we were so frustrated that we just left.

I normally do not complain about stuff that happens at the ballpark, but tonight pushed me over the edge. Maybe it's because I'm older. Ten years ago, this would not have bothered me as much. But, now, I cannot stand loud drunks who don't know their rear end from a hole in the ground and are more attentive of where the nearest beer vendor is than what is happening on the field.

I sure hope the hell that Brooks Boyer sees this.

NSSoxFan
07-08-2005, 11:33 PM
Viva, I hear what you are saying. Unfortunately when alcohol is being sold somewhere, specifically at a ballgame, this is going to happen. Either you are going to be lucky enough to be around people that can contain themselves when drunk or you get the idiots. The best thing to do is to mind your own business and that is what you did. It sucks that you had to leave the game but I understand why you did.

The Sox can't really do anything about this. If they kicked people out of the park for swearing or acting like an idiot almost everyone would be escorted out.

LongLiveFisk
07-08-2005, 11:50 PM
Wow, sorry you had such a bad experience. If it were me I may have just went and stood on the concourse (which I've done a couple of times in the past just to get away from jerks sitting near me), however it did look pretty packed tonight. Not to say that you should have to do that, which you shouldn't, but I don't think I would have wanted to miss the show on account of idiots either.

Lip Man 1
07-08-2005, 11:55 PM
E-mail Brooks directly with this and mention that you would like to see more visible security at the games. Off duty cops walking around has a tendency to tone down most situations.

Lip

Cellview22
07-08-2005, 11:57 PM
Sorry to hear about your experience. I don't understand why these dillrods have to come to our ballpark. A lot of them have ruined the game for me too.

That outfield concourse littered with beer stands is just inviting drunks who can't control themselves. Last game I had to move and sit in the UD. Were there empty seats in the UD corners? That's the only bad thing about a big crowd... nowhere to move to.

Viva Medias B's
07-09-2005, 12:00 AM
E-mail Brooks directly with this and mention that you would like to see more visible security at the games. Off duty cops walking around has a tendency to tone down most situations.

Lip

I realize I should know this, but what is Brooks' e-mail address?

Lip Man 1
07-09-2005, 12:02 AM
bboyer@chisox.com

Lip

Viva Medias B's
07-09-2005, 12:03 AM
bboyer@chisox.com

Lip

Thanks, Lip. And thanks to the rest of you for your kind comments.

MrRoboto83
07-09-2005, 12:07 AM
perhaps they could create a smoking section in the ballpark, were you could buy tickets to sit in a smoking section? I do miss when you could just smoke a nice cigar and watch a ballgame. I do not smoke much in public, cause I know how much it offends people, esp cigars.

The Wimperoo
07-09-2005, 01:12 AM
Right across the aisle from me tonight was a group of about 10 drunken middle aged women that wouldn't shut up. It was driving me nuts. When I was leaving some drunken douche was pissing on the building in the corner of the ticket window by Gate 2.

Rocklive99
07-09-2005, 01:22 AM
Yeah, similar behavior was experienced when I was at a game with family with a decently large crowd. Security came and quieted thing a little, but still, we decided to get closer and watch the end from the concourse. I mean, even after the game after a win, a group was running down the ramps trying to jumping into people down the crowd, while others literally rolled down while screaming, they looked like animals

I guess that's what you get with the bandwagoners and big crowds, this used to only be for halfprice nights in my experiences, but it seems to be getting worse.

Palehose13
07-09-2005, 03:31 AM
perhaps they could create a smoking section in the ballpark, were you could buy tickets to sit in a smoking section? I do miss when you could just smoke a nice cigar and watch a ballgame. I do not smoke much in public, cause I know how much it offends people, esp cigars.

Be happy that we can smoke just behind the seats on teh concourse and still see the game. Other stadiums don't even allow smoking in the concourse.

Chicago83
07-09-2005, 03:48 AM
E-mail Brooks directly with this and mention that you would like to see more visible security at the games. Off duty cops walking around has a tendency to tone down most situations.

Lip

This is a bad idea. E-mailing brooks is a waste of your time. I mean he is the marketing director! Let the security handle it. A bunch of off duty cops around will make everyone nervous and probably cause more problems than it solves. Last time I was at a game a couple of drunks were getting into it with the security guy. Personally I think there is enough security and they do a good job. When there is a problem like a fight there is enough of them to take care of it.

Jerko
07-09-2005, 12:35 PM
Everybody, you HAVE to tell an usher to go get security. They can't be everywhere and see everything without our help. It sounds like this episode was going on for a long time, you should have told somebody about it, ESPECIALLY if it was bad enough to force you to leave the game early. I hope an innocent fan just sitting there didn't get hurt after you left because you "didn't feel like doing ernesto's job".

Heffalump
07-09-2005, 01:28 PM
Everybody, you HAVE to tell an usher to go get security. They can't be everywhere and see everything without our help. It sounds like this episode was going on for a long time, you should have told somebody about it, ESPECIALLY if it was bad enough to force you to leave the game early. I hope an innocent fan just sitting there didn't get hurt after you left because you "didn't feel like doing ernesto's job".

I completely agree. You paid for the right to enjoy the game and you should not be deprived of that right becuase of some fools. You MUST let security/ushers know of the problem and ask them to correct it.

Also, realize that as the Sox become more popular and the crowds get bigger, there will be more of this type of "fan" due to the trendiness of going to see winning baseball on the South Side (a la many cubs "fans"). No longer can you expect to share the park with a vast majority of true Sox fans that are there to truly enjoy the game only.

Having the guts to contact security and deal with a few minutes of uncomfortableness as they take care of the "problem fans" is much better than having to leave the park and miss out on some great baseball in a great park. I think all the real fans in your section would show their appreciation as well.

just my opinion....

Lip Man 1
07-09-2005, 01:38 PM
Chicago 83:

Brooks is the marketing director but he is also involved in many aspects of the running of the Sox. This is the type of thing he needs to know about. I've dealt with him on some personal issues before and the sense that I get is that he gives a damn about anything that doesn't enhance the image of the Sox.

What he'll do is make sure this incident is brought up in a staff meeting and options discussed if it is warrented.

NOT letting him know about this doesn't help because if you don't know you, can't game plan for it happening again can you?

Lip

tebman
07-09-2005, 02:32 PM
I completely agree. You paid for the right to enjoy the game and you should not be deprived of that right becuase of some fools. You MUST let security/ushers know of the problem and ask them to correct it.

just my opinion....
I absolutely agree. A couple of times over the years I've been in similar situations and I found the nearest usher and spoke to them about it. The situations were taken care of promptly and discreetly -- to my knowledge nobody was thrown out, but after a warning from a guy who's an off-duty cop, even most drunks will get religion.

It's always fascinated me how these jokers can afford that much beer at $5.50 a pop. I guess living in mom's basement saves money on rent. :redneck

dickallen15
07-09-2005, 02:40 PM
In case there is anyone from the White Sox looking at this thread it may be a good idea to post what section you were sitting in. If the actions of these type of people ever gets to the point where you just want to leave, go to security, tell them what's up. They will go gets these idiots and either escort them out or get them out of your section. I have been a season ticketholder for many years and this type of thing is one reason I didn't mind it when we were always sitting next to tumbleweeds.

dickallen15
07-09-2005, 02:41 PM
I absolutely agree. A couple of times over the years I've been in similar situations and I found the nearest usher and spoke to them about it. The situations were taken care of promptly and discreetly -- to my knowledge nobody was thrown out, but after a warning from a guy who's an off-duty cop, even most drunks will get religion.

It's always fascinated me how these jokers can afford that much beer at $5.50 a pop. I guess living in mom's basement saves money on rent. :redneck

That's what's always fascinated me. People complaining about the price of a ticket saying they can only afford to go on half price night, yet they spend $50-60 on beer.

TornLabrum
07-09-2005, 03:09 PM
That's what's always fascinated me. People complaining about the price of a ticket saying they can only afford to go on half price night, yet they spend $50-60 on beer.

But if they didn't go to half-price night, they'd only be able to spend $25-35 on beer.

OutlanderBZ
07-09-2005, 03:28 PM
okay, i agree that there are times people are a bit rowdy and i usually do not drink at ball games but there is nothing saying that the "drunk" person is doing anything wrong by being loud. This is a matter of opinion. I am more annoyed by people who get up and try to walk down your row with a 3-2 count, 2 outs and 2 on. Does this mean they should be banned, kicked out or arrested? NO.

I think you need to realize that the person who spent $60 bucks on beer is who brooks and the gang are after. That makes alot more money for them then you sitting in your seat watching the game, why else would there be rat pack night in the first place. to attract the casual fan or person just looking for the in thing to do that night, and right now the sox are in.

so even though i agree with you that it is annoying i think it is just as easy for you to move seats, go up on the concourse or even go to guest relations and have them reseat you then hire more security and guest reps.

Comiskey has always been about the sox and a good time, maybe you need to realize that some people's good time is drinking with their buddies even if they are obnoxious. they are still paying to put players on the field.

this is not to cut you down, because i agree with you, but i don't think doing anything more then just moving your seat is neccesary

Parrothead
07-09-2005, 04:23 PM
perhaps they could create a smoking section in the ballpark, were you could buy tickets to sit in a smoking section? I do miss when you could just smoke a nice cigar and watch a ballgame. I do not smoke much in public, cause I know how much it offends people, esp cigars.

They already have one....it is called the concourse.

No matter what the Sox do someone will always bitch. That is the nature of many Sox fans.

Brian26
07-09-2005, 05:01 PM
Having the guts to contact security and deal with a few minutes of uncomfortableness as they take care of the "problem fans" is much better than having to leave the park and miss out on some great baseball in a great park.

It's a tough situation though, because if you're surrounded by these people it won't be too difficult for them to figure out who "tattled" on them. Chances are, they're only going to get a warning right off the bat....and then, some of the crap gets turned in your direction.

It's a really crappy situation. Some people go to the game to actually watch the game, and some people go to the game to party. I go to plenty of games by myself and feel really uncomfortable seeing how people act around me. I don't have kids, but it bothers me to think that some parents have to try to protect their kids from such idiot behavior around them.

One of my pet peeves is sitting in the upper tank and watching all the loser smokers have to walk up to the top 5 rows and start smoking so security doesn't see them. So if you're a non-smoker, what the hell do you do? You either sit there and take it or you go down and tattle on them to security, but then of course you become the bad guy because they're not going to get kicked out of the game for such a minor offense.

It's all just part of going to a game and being surrounded by a large group of people. Sometimes you luck out and you're in a nice section, sometimes there are idiots right next to you. I guess the other option is to stay home and watch on tv. I don't think beer is going to stop being sold at the park since they rake in so much money.

LauraJ14
07-11-2005, 03:51 PM
okay, i agree that there are times people are a bit rowdy and i usually do not drink at ball games but there is nothing saying that the "drunk" person is doing anything wrong by being loud. This is a matter of opinion. I am more annoyed by people who get up and try to walk down your row with a 3-2 count, 2 outs and 2 on. Does this mean they should be banned, kicked out or arrested? NO.

I think you need to realize that the person who spent $60 bucks on beer is who brooks and the gang are after. That makes alot more money for them then you sitting in your seat watching the game, why else would there be rat pack night in the first place. to attract the casual fan or person just looking for the in thing to do that night, and right now the sox are in.

so even though i agree with you that it is annoying i think it is just as easy for you to move seats, go up on the concourse or even go to guest relations and have them reseat you then hire more security and guest reps.

Comiskey has always been about the sox and a good time, maybe you need to realize that some people's good time is drinking with their buddies even if they are obnoxious. they are still paying to put players on the field.

this is not to cut you down, because i agree with you, but i don't think doing anything more then just moving your seat is neccesary

Its getting kind of hard to just get up and move seats lately when there is 35,000 people in the ball park. I am a season ticket holder and I want to sit in my seats so if there is a problem I am going to get security. I just wish people would be more considerate of the people around them especially when there are kids at the game. Swearing for 3 hours doesn't make you sound cool.

miker
07-11-2005, 03:58 PM
Its getting kind of hard to just get up and move seats lately when there is 35,000 people in the ball park. I am a season ticket holder and I want to sit in my seats so if there is a problem I am going to get security. I just wish people would be more considerate of the people around them especially when there are kids at the game. Swearing for 3 hours doesn't make you sound cool.

Great, first we have problems because the park isn't full...now we have problems because the park is full!

Seriously, it's not a ballpark problem, it's a people problem. There are simply more drillrods then there used to be.

Jerko
07-11-2005, 04:15 PM
Instead of the "rain room", the Cell needs a "cane room" it seems like.

Tekijawa
07-11-2005, 04:23 PM
Also, realize that as the Sox become more popular and the crowds get bigger, there will be more of this type of "fan" due to the trendiness of going to see winning baseball on the South Side (a la many cubs "fans"). No longer can you expect to share the park with a vast majority of true Sox fans that are there to truly enjoy the game only...

Some jump on the Bandwagon... others take the short bus!

I have a feeling we will probably have to get used to it.

Ol' No. 2
07-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Sorry, but if you're not willing to do something about it yourself, don't come here looking for sympathy. I've seen more than my share of unruly people around me, and whenever I've called the GSR, they did something about it right away. There aren't enough security people to patrol all the aisles all the time. They rely on being called by the GSR.

And these are NOT the kind of people they want in the park. The Sox are working toward making it family friendly and these are the types that ruin it. If they bothered you it's a pretty sure bet they were having the same effect on almost everybody around them.

PatK
07-11-2005, 07:00 PM
There's a difference between being "drunk and loud" and "drunk and obnoxious".

Those people were the latter, and they need to be removed. People should get security any time something like that happens.

I'm a drunk, but I behave myself at the Cell. Why possibly ruin not only your time, but someone elses by acting like a d-bag?

mr_genius
07-11-2005, 09:48 PM
perhaps they could create a smoking section in the ballpark, were you could buy tickets to sit in a smoking section? I do miss when you could just smoke a nice cigar and watch a ballgame. I do not smoke much in public, cause I know how much it offends people, esp cigars.

thats actually a great idea

as far as people being arrested for smoking in the stands... :tongue:

that guy would have hated old comiskey

lol

Steakpita
07-12-2005, 12:06 PM
The fine line between "Drunk and Loud" and "Drunk and Obnoxious" is a beautiful, beautiful thing... for me there's not much better than hollering myself hoarse as the Sox win and I down a few, plus a couple bests' kosher with, a *steak pita*, funnel cake, and popcorn, then wash down with Goose Island and yell alongb and high-five everyone in sight with every home run, run, strikeout, etc. I guess I could just quietly watch the game, but getting into it is WAY more fun. Does this make me an obnoxious fan?

SOXintheBURGH
07-12-2005, 12:41 PM
The fine line between "Drunk and Loud" and "Drunk and Obnoxious" is a beautiful, beautiful thing... for me there's not much better than hollering myself hoarse as the Sox win and I down a few, plus a couple bests' kosher with, a *steak pita*, funnel cake, and popcorn, then wash down with Goose Island and yell alongb and high-five everyone in sight with every home run, run, strikeout, etc. I guess I could just quietly watch the game, but getting into it is WAY more fun. Does this make me an obnoxious fan?

Well, I haven't been to the Cell since it became "The Cell," my last visit was in 2000 (and I die a little bit each day because of it). But, I have been to several Pirates games and I can assure you that I totally get into it, even though my level of Bucco fandom is miniscule to that of the Sox. I jump up and high five random strangers after homers and shout and cheer. I never boo my own players, except the occasional "Ahh... you suck, Umberto Cota." As far as drinking at the park, I'm not sure, maybe I can just hold my liquor. 5 Beers during a game will give me a healthy buzz, it wont incite me to start fights and scream F bombs.

Steakpita
07-12-2005, 12:45 PM
As far as drinking at the park, I'm not sure, maybe I can just hold my liquor. 5 Beers during a game will give me a healthy buzz, it wont incite me to start fights and scream F bombs.



And that's the difference between us and the Drillrods, I guess.

Who's Umberto Cota? Is he like Kevin Walker?

SOXintheBURGH
07-12-2005, 01:05 PM
And that's the difference between us and the Drillrods, I guess.

Who's Umberto Cota? Is he like Kevin Walker?

Wretched Pirates back up catcher.

billnahorodny
07-12-2005, 02:40 PM
This actually brings up a point for me. I was at a game about a month ago. I believe it was the Garland vs. KC game. There were two groups of guys of about 6 in each group sitting across the aisle and up a few rows. They were drinking and having a good time and weren't hurling obscenities. Now, as far as whether or not they were being obnoxious....I'm not quite sure. What they were doing was primarily cheering...which is great. But it was relentless, sustained and LOUD. When there was a break in the game, then it was irrelevant quotes from movies or sitcoms at the same volume. But there was constant "look at me!!!" yelling. Maybe I'm just getting old and I really can't fault them with anything other than being a bit too enthusiastic and not funny or clever enough...but I think that two and a half hours of constant top-of-their-lungs yelling and horrible jokes (i.e. "Hey Gotay....go tie your shoes!") would drive anyone to drink.

mjharrison72
07-12-2005, 03:13 PM
This actually brings up a point for me. I was at a game about a month ago. I believe it was the Garland vs. KC game. There were two groups of guys of about 6 in each group sitting across the aisle and up a few rows. They were drinking and having a good time and weren't hurling obscenities. Now, as far as whether or not they were being obnoxious....I'm not quite sure. What they were doing was primarily cheering...which is great. But it was relentless, sustained and LOUD. When there was a break in the game, then it was irrelevant quotes from movies or sitcoms at the same volume. But there was constant "look at me!!!" yelling. Maybe I'm just getting old and I really can't fault them with anything other than being a bit too enthusiastic and not funny or clever enough...but I think that two and a half hours of constant top-of-their-lungs yelling and horrible jokes (i.e. "Hey Gotay....go tie your shoes!") would drive anyone to drink.

I think the "loud" crosses into "obnoxious" as soon as the F-bombs start flying. And believe me, if they're drinking enough, they'll start dropping them soon enough, and THAT's when it's time to get an usher.

I had sort of a similar experience...actually at the same game; the guys were yelling all sorts of annoying things, throwing the occasional f-bomb. I don't think anyone was going to do anyhting about it until they went to buy beer from a vendor and he carded them. They booed him and called him fat (not a smart idea when you are obviously not of age). Sure enough, a couple of minutes later, security was looking for the loudest-mouthed guy and escorted him out.

Everybody expects to have a good time and some may drink a bit more than others. You can't complain too much if someone's just being loud and annoying... for example, the guy on the Wednesday night game against the D-Rays in left field chanting (?) "Scotty is an All-Star!" for minutes on end. But as soon as they start swearing or throwing those middle fingers around, I won't hesitate to say something.