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Chips
07-06-2005, 02:01 AM
I love watching Scott draw walks and steal bases. I like seeing him open a game up with a double, I flat out love watching him play ball. But I would like to see him put one it the seats at least once this season. Anyone else feel the same way?

Mr. White Sox
07-06-2005, 02:03 AM
I love watching Scott draw walks and steal bases. I like seeing him open a game up with a double, I flat out love watching him play ball. But I would like to see him put one it the seats at least once this season. Anyone else feel the same way?

yes. I sort of don't understand how he can have somewhere around 12-15HR last year and have 0 in the best HR park in the bigs...meh, I don't care, as long as the wins and SBs keep on a'comin!

JUribe1989
07-06-2005, 02:05 AM
yes. I sort of don't understand how he can have somewhere around 12-15HR last year and have 0 in the best HR park in the bigs...meh, I don't care, as long as the wins and SBs keep on a'comin!

I don't necessarily want to see him hit a home run. He hit 12-15 hr last year because he got homer happy and that's all he went for. If he does that again, we are screwed. Him getting on with bunts and singles to start the game is what has the White Sox in first place IMO.

skobabe8
07-06-2005, 02:05 AM
yes. I sort of don't understand how he can have somewhere around 12-15HR last year and have 0 in the best HR park in the bigs...meh, I don't care, as long as the wins and SBs keep on a'comin!

Because instead of trying to jack, he's working to get walks and singles. Thats fine if he runs into one eventually, as long as he doesnt start swinging with an uppercut.

ATXBMX
07-06-2005, 02:05 AM
Only if it's an inside-the-park HR.

Seriously, he shouldn't be trying to hit the ball in the air. We have other guys to hit HRs. I would rather see Rowand and Uribe hitting more.

sox_fan_forever
07-06-2005, 02:07 AM
I honestly don't care if he never hits another home run in his career. I just want him to keep doing what's he's been doing and the Sox to keep winning. That's all that really matters.

Banix12
07-06-2005, 02:07 AM
yes. I sort of don't understand how he can have somewhere around 12-15HR last year and have 0 in the best HR park in the bigs...meh, I don't care, as long as the wins and SBs keep on a'comin!

Last season he made the decision to swing for the fences and try to hit for power most of the time. Partially this was because of Milwaukee's anemic power attack and he ended up trying to park one when the game was close and late.

The problem that arose when he started swinging for the fences though was he ended out flying out a lot with his Warning Track Power and his .OBP suffered. Hence his bad numbers last season.

I don't care if he ever hits one out since that isn't what his game is all about and I don't want his swing screwed up like it was last season.

Chips
07-06-2005, 02:11 AM
Last season he made the decision to swing for the fences and try to hit for power most of the time. Partially this was because of Milwaukee's anemic power attack and he ended up trying to park one when the game was close and late.

The problem that arose when he started swinging for the fences though was he ended out flying out a lot with his Warning Track Power and his .OBP suffered. Hence his bad numbers last season.

I don't care if he ever hits one out since that isn't what his game is all about and I don't want his swing screwed up like it was last season.

I really didn't follow him at all last year and had no idea that he messed up his swing, etc. I've never been a big fan of the home run, just thought it would be nice if he could come across one once, but I can't complain when were 56-26.

slobes
07-06-2005, 02:28 AM
I was at the game today and I really thought his double in the 8th was gonna make it outta the park...I want his first homer to be a walk-off homer in the bottom of the 15th to clinch the AL Central

chitownhawkfan
07-06-2005, 02:32 AM
A lead off walk, a stolen base, a bunt and a sac fly. Thats also worth a run

:andy
Style points dont count

Mr. White Sox
07-06-2005, 02:38 AM
A lead off walk, a stolen base, a bunt and a sac fly. Thats also worth a run


Of course, I understand all of this. I checked his stats and had no idea he hit that low of an .avg. However, his rookie year he had a higher avg and OBP and he managed to belt out 9. He also has 15 career triples coming into this year, and 0 this year. I love his style of play and he is my favorite player on the team, but if he can find the middle ground a la Carl Crawford, that would make him an even better player than he is.

Chicago83
07-06-2005, 02:38 AM
yes. I sort of don't understand how he can have somewhere around 12-15HR last year and have 0 in the best HR park in the bigs...meh, I don't care, as long as the wins and SBs keep on a'comin!

Because he's hitting the way he should be. That's why he is batting .280 as opposed to .240.

SOX ADDICT '73
07-06-2005, 02:41 AM
"You gotta stop swingin' for the fences though, Hayes. All you're gonna do is give yourself a hernia. With your speed you should be hittin' the ball on the ground, leggin' 'em out. Every time I see you hit one in the air, you owe me twenty pushups."

Ah, the immortal words of Lou Brown. Imagine Ozzie saying the same thing to Pods, but insert an F-bomb every three words (to get the full effect).

TaylorStSox
07-06-2005, 02:43 AM
The only time I want to see Pods hit a homer is when there's a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs.

Mr. White Sox
07-06-2005, 02:51 AM
I think that his rookie numbers are ideal. 9 HR, 8 triples, .379OBP are all great. Imagine if he kept his SB pace from this year with a .379 OBP...:o:

I'm simply saying that a little power never hurt anyone in the right situation. Of course this year is much better than his last, but if you look at his rookie numbers, they are similar to Carl Crawford's in the power department, but far better in BA, OBP, etc. That would be ideal IMO.

Take a look at Rickey Henderson's 2nd year in the bigs:
.303BA, .420OBP, 111R, 9HR, 22 doubles, 4Triples, 53RBI, 100SB, 114BB, 54SO, .399SLG
That would be amazing...and something Podsednik could aspire to.

SOX ADDICT '73
07-06-2005, 03:05 AM
He also has 15 career triples coming into this year, and 0 this year.
Another example of the difference between losing baseball and winning baseball:

Monday night, 8th inning, Gathright tries to stretch a double into a triple and gets nailed by Dye/Iguchi/Crede ahead of Crawford's dinger, costing the Rays a run.

Tuesday night, 8th inning, Pods holds up at 2nd (when many of us wanted to see him try for 3rd), thus he doesn't get thrown out, and scores an important insurance run on Thomas' blast (okay, being the first of the three to cross the plate, Pods technically scored the tying run, but if he's not on base, we're only up one run).

Pods trusted that if he could get on, Iguchi would get him over, and Big Frank would get him in. And did he ever!

Nevertheless, with his speed, the triples will come. Be careful what you wish for, though: if Pods starts hitting triples, the only base he can steal is home plate!

brewcrew/chisox
07-06-2005, 03:10 AM
Of course, I understand all of this. I checked his stats and had no idea he hit that low of an .avg. However, his rookie year he had a higher avg and OBP and he managed to belt out 9. He also has 15 career triples coming into this year, and 0 this year. I love his style of play and he is my favorite player on the team, but if he can find the middle ground a la Carl Crawford, that would make him an even better player than he is.

Interesting discussion. My personal belief is that Pod's rookie season (essentially two years ago) was somewhat par for the course for good hitters. Pods was hitting everything that year. He was nominated for rookie of the year, falling short only to Dontrel Willis. He constantly got on base, and essentially carried the team during an otherwise dismal season.

His second season was plagued by three factor:
1. He started the season hitting a couple of homers, which then contributed to the self dilusional belief that he could........actually hit homeruns. This of course wasn't the case. and Milwaukee suffered. Instead of being the OBP king/basestealer/contact hitter that Brewfans came to expect, SPods became a guy that would strike out and fly out at the warning track more times than wanted.

2. The second reason for SPods decline in numbers his second year was that the top of the lineup was HORRIBLY left handed that year. You had SPods, Jenkins and Overbay leading the arsenal, a lineup that was entirely left handed and, based on the batting average of of the rest of the right handers on the team, Yost was somewhat helpless (or stubborn some would say) about putting any righthanders up in the two hole to nutralize the lineup. As a result, the brewers were consistanly nutralized by opposing teams(particulaly when they turned over their line up) with left handed specialists.

3. Spods was in his second year: the sophomore slump, which occurs with many great players in the big leagues. The rule essentially goes: You adjust in the league/the league adjusts to you/ and then you adjust back to the league. Spods had been proving this year to be doing just that.

I can't imagine that SPods is going to go 0-the season when it comes to HRs this year; I mean, his shot today.....OPPOSITE FIELD! barely missed the Left field seats. He's got about 3 or 4 in him for the year I'm sure. However, if he can get on base like he's been doing for this half, knock in some runs, and steal a *****load of bases, then I say GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO!

Mr. White Sox
07-06-2005, 03:10 AM
Be careful what you wish for, though: if Pods starts hitting triples, the only base he can steal is home plate!

Haha, great point! :D:

EDIT: Brewcrew, thanks for the info on the Brewers...a team that I have started to follow this year thanks to my attending UW-Madison and Carlos Lee's departure. That makes a lot of sense regarding his sophomore slump as well.

EDIT2: TaylorSt, I understand that as well, and was just putting that season as something Podsednik could aspire to. If you look at Henderson's years in the mid-80's, the numbers were so balanced it was unbelievable. His sophomore season seemed somewhat similar to Podsednik's rookie year in terms of OBP HR and things of that nature, so I decided to post that comparison. Of course, there is no way Podsednik will put up a year like Henderson did in '85, and probably not one like his sophomore year, but those numbers simply seemed comparable.

TaylorStSox
07-06-2005, 03:10 AM
I think that his rookie numbers are ideal. 9 HR, 8 triples, .379OBP are all great. Imagine if he kept his SB pace from this year with a .379 OBP...:o:

I'm simply saying that a little power never hurt anyone in the right situation. Of course this year is much better than his last, but if you look at his rookie numbers, they are similar to Carl Crawford's in the power department, but far better in BA, OBP, etc. That would be ideal IMO.

Take a look at Rickey Henderson's 2nd year in the bigs:
.303BA, .420OBP, 111R, 9HR, 22 doubles, 4Triples, 53RBI, 100SB, 114BB, 54SO, .399SLG
That would be amazing...and something Podsednik could aspire to.

Don't compare Pods to Henderson. It's not fair. Rickey Henderson was the most complete player to ever play baseball IMO.

DaleJRFan
07-06-2005, 03:15 AM
Rickey Henderson was the most complete player to ever play baseball IMO.

Mickey... Mantle???? :?:

TaylorStSox
07-06-2005, 03:16 AM
Mickey... Mantle???? :?:

Hit alot of homeruns but didn't dominate every part of the game like Henderson did.

TaylorStSox
07-06-2005, 03:17 AM
If you had one guy, all time, to start a team with..........who would it be? I have to say Rickey Henderson. He was a great fielder. He had a great eye. He owned the bases. He hit for power. He was truly amazing to watch.

DaleJRFan
07-06-2005, 03:28 AM
Hit alot of homeruns but didn't dominate every part of the game like Henderson did.

:?:

Mantle: 2415 hits, 4511 total bases, 1509 rbi, 536 hr, .420 obp, .557 slg. Frank Thomas has 32 career stolen bases, guess he isn't as good of a baseball player as Rickey Henderson...

Plus, Mantle could drink Henderson under the table.

Banix12
07-06-2005, 03:30 AM
It doesn't have the huge reputation for it, but Miller Park can be a little homer happy. maybe a bit more homer happy than U.S. Cellular. It's just that the Brewers have been a team that could never really afford a lot of power.

Pods does have power, as evidenced by his well hit double tonight. though he should be commended for using his speed and doing his best to keep the ball out of the air. It's not the most popular style of play but it's one he can be sucessful at with his natural gifts.

TaylorStSox
07-06-2005, 03:30 AM
:?:

Mantle: 2415 hits, 4511 total bases, 1509 rbi, 536 hr, .420 obp, .557 slg. Frank Thomas has 32 career stolen bases, guess he isn't as good of a baseball player as Rickey Henderson...

Plus, Mantle could drink Henderson under the table.


COMPLETE. Henderson isn't going to have guady power numbers but he did everything so well.

SOX ADDICT '73
07-06-2005, 03:33 AM
He was truly amazing to watch.
And Rickey will be the first to tell you that too. Accomplishments aside, there may have been no bigger EGO to ever play the game. He probably ran for president of his own Fan Club. From a clubhouse chemistry standpoint, definitely not the guy I'd start a team with.

Oh, and sorry for contributing to the :hijacked: .

TaylorStSox
07-06-2005, 03:35 AM
And Rickey will be the first to tell you that too. Accomplishments aside, there may have been no bigger EGO to ever play the game. He probably ran for president of his own Fan Club. From a clubhouse chemistry standpoint, definitely not the guy I'd start a team with.

Oh, and sorry for contributing to the :hijacked: .

They said the same thing about Everett. It's all about the environment you put the guys in. Don't forget. Rickey Henderson is a world champ.

SOX ADDICT '73
07-06-2005, 03:37 AM
They said the same thing about Everett. It's all about the environment you put the guys in. Don't forget. Rickey Henderson is a world champ.
I don't recall Carl being accused of egomania. He just liked to punch people and scream alot.:tongue:

TaylorStSox
07-06-2005, 03:39 AM
I don't recall Carl being accused of egomania. He just liked to punch people and scream alot.:tongue:

LOL. Nobody loves Carl Everett as much as Carl Everett. I'll tell you what though........ I love to watch the guy come to the plate.

TDog
07-06-2005, 04:05 AM
Don't compare Pods to Henderson. It's not fair. Rickey Henderson was the most complete player to ever play baseball IMO.

Now Henderson is the most complete player in the Golden State League.

I honestly don't care if Pods hits a home run this year. I hope he doesn't care if he hits a home run this year.

Iguana775
07-06-2005, 07:50 AM
No, it's not why he's here.

wdelaney72
07-06-2005, 09:32 AM
"You gotta stop swingin' for the fences though, Hayes. All you're gonna do is give yourself a hernia. With your speed you should be hittin' the ball on the ground, leggin' 'em out. Every time I see you hit one in the air, you owe me twenty pushups."

Ah, the immortal words of Lou Brown. Imagine Ozzie saying the same thing to Pods, but insert an F-bomb every three words (to get the full effect).


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/wdelaney72/LouBrown.bmp"You may run like Mays but you hit like ****!"

NO WAY do I want Pods trying to hit home runs. It appears to me that he agrees.

Frater Perdurabo
07-06-2005, 09:33 AM
I don't want Pods to try to hit any homers. If he hits one "by accident," that's fine with me, though.

I wouldn't mind seeing him hit inside-the-park homers, either.

Selfishly, what I really want to see him do is steal home. :bandance:

gobears1987
07-06-2005, 09:43 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/wdelaney72/LouBrown.bmp"You may run like Mays but you hit like ****!"

Is it just me or does Willy Harris remind you of Willy Mays Hayes? I want to see him try to steal 2nd with his shoe untied. Then we can have Hawk say he thinks we got hosed on that one.

Iguana775
07-06-2005, 09:46 AM
Selfishly, what I really want to see him do is steal home. :bandance:

now, i would love to see that. he should try that with Frank at bat. With Frank in the way, the catcher couldnt even see over there. lol

FielderJones
07-06-2005, 09:53 AM
now, i would love to see that. he should try that with Frank at bat. With Frank in the way, the catcher couldnt even see over there. lol


:smokin: (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=5#)


Not sure why stealing home with Frank at bat makes sense from a baseball point of view, but, uhhh, okay ...


:kukoo: (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=5#)

Frater Perdurabo
07-06-2005, 10:00 AM
:smokin: (http://misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=5#)


Not sure why stealing home with Frank at bat makes sense from a baseball point of view, but, uhhh, okay ...


:kukoo: (http://misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=5#)

Imagine this:

Pods could run on the catcher, who's leisurely tossing the ball back to the left-handed pitcher whose manager has decided to intentionally walk the Big Hurt and go for the GIDP (since Paulie is on deck) to send the game to extra innings, because he's afraid Frank will drive Pods home to score the winning run in the bottom of the ninth at the Cell.

When Pods steals home in that situation, would that be considered a "walk-off stolen base?" :wink:

tebman
07-06-2005, 10:06 AM
Mickey... Mantle???? :?:
Willie... Mays? :?:

Hagan
07-06-2005, 01:32 PM
i want to see just one

nug0hs
07-06-2005, 02:01 PM
Let the man get to 70-75 SB and then turn him loose in the last series of the season after we have already clinched :bandance:

my5thbench
07-06-2005, 02:05 PM
An in the park homer every now & then would add some excitement

VeeckAsInWreck
07-06-2005, 02:25 PM
I was at the game today and I really thought his double in the 8th was gonna make it outta the park...I want his first homer to be a walk-off homer in the bottom of the 15th to clinch the AL Central

I know we have the teal police, but shouldn't we have the deep pink patrol as well? :D:

Either way, I don't want Scott to swing for the fences. He's doing what every Sox leadoff hitter should have been doing the past decade.

:ray
"Why you looking at me?"

FedEx227
07-06-2005, 02:40 PM
WTP in the house!

and...yeah, who cares if Pods hits a homer, I can't believe some people actually want him to, last I checked hes doing a fine job as our leadoff man, and I don't want a repeat of last year. Hes doing just fine, we just need to let this Sox team keep doin what their doin...

I'm going with Willie Mays as the best all-around player.

Shorty1983
07-06-2005, 02:41 PM
If it happens, it happens.

I'd much rather see Pods hit a inside the park homerun, rounding the bases in less than 6 seconds.

WhiteSoxFan84
07-06-2005, 02:43 PM
yes. I sort of don't understand how he can have somewhere around 12-15HR last year and have 0 in the best HR park in the bigs...meh, I don't care, as long as the wins and SBs keep on a'comin!


look at his AVG and OBP last year. that's why he had 12-15 HRs because he was trying to hit them a lot more than he did 2 years ago and is trying this year.

he almost hit one last night but thank God it didnt go over because we have no idea if iguchi and thomas would have still done what they did after PoPo.

FedEx227
07-06-2005, 02:43 PM
....uh.....I'm going to go out on a limb and say Pods cant round the bases in 6 seconds...

WhiteSoxFan84
07-06-2005, 02:52 PM
If it happens, it happens.

I'd much rather see Pods hit a inside the park homerun, rounding the bases in less than 6 seconds.

lol. gathwright from the d-rays is considered the fastest man in baseball. he can get from home to 1st in 3.3 seconds. podsednik is a great base-stealer but he is not the fastest man in the game. yes, there is a difference. i think podsednik came make it around the bases in... 3.4 to first... 2.7 to 2nd... 2.7 to 3rd... 2.6 to home... 11.4 seconds?

The Racehorse
07-06-2005, 03:07 PM
I'm guessing that Pods first home run will be hit just over the fence down either line...
a hook just inside right field fair pole or a slice on the fair side of the left field foul pole.

SOXSINCE'70
07-06-2005, 04:11 PM
I love watching Scott draw walks and steal bases. I like seeing him open a game up with a double, I flat out love watching him play ball. But I would like to see him put one it the seats at least once this season. Anyone else feel the same way?

He came within inches of hitting his first HR last night.
The ball went over Carl Crrrrrrrawford's* head.He settled for
a double.I still say he could have had a triple.

(*-when annouced in TB,they call him Carl Crrrrrrawford).