View Full Version : Does everyone still think Ivan Rodriguez was on the juice?

07-02-2005, 06:08 PM
Before the season started, Canseco came out with his book, and one of the accusation was directed at Ivan Rodriguez. I was still lurking at the time, but it seemed like most people on this board just assumed it was true. He certainly didn't help himself coming into camp having lost 15-20lbs.

I was just wondering if people still thought he was on the juice before. His numbers are pretty consistent with his career numbers (homers are down a little), and he has stayed healthy. This is during the time when past roid users Sosa and Giambi have watched their numbers plummet while they hop on and off the DL list. He lost a lot of weight, but in the past he was always a little chubby. Being a catcher, it makes sense for him to get rid of as much fat as possible, especially as he is getting up in his career. I don't know for sure, but going on his performance this year, I don't think he was on the juice.

07-02-2005, 07:23 PM

07-02-2005, 07:37 PM

He looks almost the same as he did when I watched him play
his first big league game at Comiskey Park in June,1991.:rolleyes:

The Dude
07-02-2005, 08:00 PM
no doubt about it!

07-02-2005, 08:06 PM
Yes, I still think he was on them. Body changes are more telling than statistical variations, which could simply be due to a guy having an off-year, etc. A lot of these guys who were on the juice are great players anyway, so their numbers may not change all that much (a little drop in homers or something, like I-Rod has had).

07-02-2005, 10:59 PM

07-02-2005, 10:59 PM

07-02-2005, 11:08 PM
Yep, his head is too big for his body now.


Actual photo, NOT a bobblehead.

07-03-2005, 03:09 AM

This past week in Detroit he hit about three warning track shots that, when he was on the juice went out of the park.

07-03-2005, 03:21 AM
I was just wondering if people still thought he was on the juice before.Sure he was. Like Bonds, he's a pretty damn good player without them. He's not like some musclehead power hitter who is lost with no 'roids, like the .212 hitting pre-'roid McGwire or, of course, Sham-ME.


I've never taken a substance that isn't legal in some place somewhere if you buy a prescription from the right doctor!

07-03-2005, 07:31 AM
Yea,he looks like his own younger and slimmer brother.

07-03-2005, 04:52 PM
I went to a Sox/Tigers game on July 24, 2004. In the first inning of that game, I-Rod (which is his correct nickname) came in with a to-date batting average of .363.

I don't know what he's hitting now, but I'll bet its not .363.

07-03-2005, 05:16 PM

07-03-2005, 10:16 PM
Heck yes

His head is freakishly gigantic now

07-05-2005, 05:00 AM
On them or not, he's still playing well now and he was amazing in the Marlins World Series run in '04. He drove in the tying run in that Game 5 against the Giants and then held on to the ball with JT Snow charging from third trying to score on a Sac Fly. What a series that was. Rock on Pudge!

Shammy Hater
07-05-2005, 08:37 PM
i must admit i have gained a lot of respect for pudge after the 03 season. i totally thought FLA was inheriting a cancer but he proved that he can carry a team on his back (and not just a pretender like the ran-jerks), and he has been the catalyst in detroit. pudge, even off the juice, is still one of the best players in the game and always plays hard.

07-05-2005, 08:53 PM
Yes, numbers dowm and much smaller.