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G-Ville Sox
06-29-2005, 09:59 PM
John and Ed said Hermanson was warming up, Shingo has been in for a while hasnt he?

DoggPhood
06-29-2005, 10:06 PM
way weirder than that oakland game. come on, that 3-inning fireworks display? all that defense on both sides? (both good and bad)


:supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

batmanZoSo
06-29-2005, 10:06 PM
*text messaging sox clubhouse*

For the future, I'd like it done in 9. THX!

Oh, and we win!

:supernana:

NSSoxFan
06-29-2005, 10:06 PM
Shingo!

Frank!

Yes!

FielderJones
06-29-2005, 10:06 PM
Cuz he can get the job done?

gobears1987
06-29-2005, 10:06 PM
Holy **** we rule!!!
:supernana::supernana::supernana::supernana: :supernana::supernana: :supernana::supernana::supernana::supernana:

FielderJones
06-29-2005, 10:07 PM
Nice to see some contribution!

:winner (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=5#)

Brian26
06-29-2005, 10:07 PM
That may be one of the greatest games I've ever seen.

darklord23
06-29-2005, 10:07 PM
uribe clutch defense, and shingo with some nice pitching

gobears1987
06-29-2005, 10:07 PM
the reason was that if Hermy blew the save all we'd have left is Marte for additional innings.

rwcescato
06-29-2005, 10:07 PM
*text messaging sox clubhouse*

For the future, I'd like it done in 9. THX!

Oh, and we win!

:supernana:

Way to go Frank, way to go Shingo!!! YYYESSS!!!

Rich:supernana:

NDSox12
06-29-2005, 10:07 PM
John and Ed said Hermanson was warming up, Shingo has been in for a while hasnt he?

That's why :)

In an extra inning marathon, it is tough to pull guys until the last possible moment because you never know how long the game may go.

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
So let's see. Not only do the Sox win, but Ozzie allows his much maligned relievers to gain their confidence in huge, pressure situations.

Eat it Dark Clouds.

JB98
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
Can we say Shingo's back now? That was really gutsy pitching. Really, it wasn't his fault the bases were loaded. The Tigers got lucky with a swinging bunt and a bloop. He recovered nicely. That strikeout of Inge was HUGE.

elrod
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
Unbelievable. Great win because of the contributions from three heretofore struggling pitchers: McCarthy, Vizcaino and Shingo.

TimoandAaron
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
John and Ed said Hermanson was warming up, Shingo has been in for a while hasnt he?Cause Shingo is Mr. ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
Holy hell. I still can't believe we won that ****ing game.

Amazing.

:winner

mccoydp
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
Holy crap! I know I blew off my Computer Architecture & Structure homework for a reason!

Shingo showed guts tonight, plain and simple...great job!

:winner

LuvSox
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
That may be one of the greatest games I've ever seen.

An Instant Classic we'll never see on ESPN

Reminds me of 83
06-29-2005, 10:08 PM
Frank.....I have always loved ya!!!!!!!!!

Shingo.....well lets just say I am learning to love you.

Nice job Bullpen!!

Awesome win.

Iguana775
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
Damn, make it interesting, Shingo! lol.

woo hoo!

rowand33
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
good job by Shingo and Viz tonight.

5 scoreless innings out of those guys, which is great because it'll save the good part of the pen for tomorrow (but I still don't agree with ozzie's decision to leave Viz in for that inning. Just because it worked out doesn't mean it's right. Shingo I understand if Hermy is already gone).

but bitching aside...

Yay! :bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

52-24!

Chicago83
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
I am happy to see that Brandon pitched a good game. I was at school and missed most of the game, why did Ozzie take him out, did he throw a lot of pitches? Overall how did BMac look?

gobears1987
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
Politte, Vizzy, and Shingo all did well. Brandon didn't do bad either.

Jerko
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
Lest we forget:

:indianslose :twinslose

TimoandAaron
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
:supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:





YES!!!!!!

ATXBMX
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
The tigers have to be the worst situational hitters ever. So many wasted opportunities. :D:

cheeses_h_rice
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
I didn't see most of the game, and to be honest, I thought Ozzie was making a colossal mistake using Vizcaino for the 9th, so here's to a delicious plate of cooked crow for me, and a beer to tip in honor of the relief staff, Juan Uribe's D, and Big Frank for the game-winning shot.

:gulp:

fquaye149
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
seriously - uribe's play in the 9th is easily the sox play of the year and the fact is, i can't remember many defensive plays i've EVER seen that have been so impressive.

what a play uribe!

C-Dawg
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
Man I'm exhausted! That game just wore me out; I thought we'd have to call Tom Seaver back to pitch like that game back in, what, 1985.

And KC beat the Twinks, so if my math is correct we're back to a 10-game lead!

:wink:

HebrewHammer
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
I'm really just speechless.

Talk about walking a tightrope for four innings, this team just finds a way to hang in there.

PaleHoseGeorge
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
And now a word from Royce Clayton...


















:hitless
"Uribe don't know **** about maintaining a fielding percentage record that will probably last forever!"


:walnuts
"I agree, Royce. I agree."

sthbndsox
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
wow i've never seen anything like that. bases loaded with nobody out and then bases loaded with 1 out, and we come out unscathed? thats a hell of a job by cliff and shingo! 10 game lead in the central.... YES!

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
good job by Shingo and Viz tonight.

5 scoreless innings out of those guys, which is great because it'll save the good part of the pen for tomorrow (but I still don't agree with ozzie's decision to leave Viz in for that inning. Just because it worked out doesn't mean it's right. Shingo I understand if Hermy is already gone).

but bitching aside...

Yay! :bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

52-24!

Yea, keep the bitchign aside off this message board. The only question that needs to be asked is did it work? It did, so it was right. Ozzie knows this team a hell of a lot better than you do.

Jurr
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
Vizcaino and Shingo had A++++ efforts. They battled through some VERY tough situations and came out on top. What the bullpen has done the last two nights shows that they have what it takes to make it in the playoffs. Damn, what a game!:bandance:

chisoxfan64
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
Gotta give Uribe a whole lot of credit for saving that game.

Unregistered
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
How many men did Detroit leave on base tonight.

If my figures are right, it's about 1239058734987203857098734523763468...










10 game lead re-instated. :cool:

Stroker Ace
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
SOX WIN!!! YESSSSS!!!!!

Brian26
06-29-2005, 10:10 PM
seriously - uribe's play in the 9th is easily the sox play of the year and the fact is, i can't remember many defensive plays i've EVER seen that have been so impressive.

what a play uribe!

With the winning run having already crossed the plate if the umpire calls the runner safe....it was HUGE! Unbelievable.

Jjav829
06-29-2005, 10:11 PM
What a job by the bullpen! 6 2/3 scoreless innings...and Hermanson and Marte didn't even pitch! It was all Vizcaino and Shingo shutting them down. Uribe's play was unbelievable. He has such a quick release and a great arm to go with it.

Oh, also, Detroit sucks. Put on your lousy fireworks displays somewhere other than right by the park. Thanks for the distraction, you morons.

We rule.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:11 PM
Eight Home Runs.

'Nuff Said.

Uncle_Patrick
06-29-2005, 10:11 PM
Great job by Viz and Shingo tonight! I know I wasn't the only one who was nervous that both guys were in for so long, but they totally came through. Excellent!

:bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

Ol' No. 2
06-29-2005, 10:11 PM
I hate to be the one to say it, but the Sox were L-U-C-K-Y tonight. The Kittens lost that one in so many ways it's not funny. Bases loaded in the 8th with no outs and they can't score. Pu-leeze. And Polanco had the game-winner in the 9th if he had the sense to run through 1st instead of sliding. But you don't throw any of them back. Back to 10 'nanas.

:supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

Tragg
06-29-2005, 10:12 PM
Let's see:

Bottom 8, bags loaded 0 out, no runs.
Bottom 13, 2 and 3rd 1 out, and no runs

Last night - bottom 9, runner on 3rd no outs, no runs.

Unbelievable.

Hendu
06-29-2005, 10:12 PM
The tigers have to be the worst situational hitters ever. So many wasted opportunities. :D:

Agreed, but we can't complain. Bases loaded and 0 outs in the 8th and they don't score, then bases loaded in the 13th with 1 out and they can't put a runner across. Not to mention what happened last night.

We could have easily lost both games, but we're on a mission from God this year.

Stroker Ace
06-29-2005, 10:12 PM
Good outing by B-Mac with some help with our defense. Shingo got my heart going in the 13th, but we pulled through.:D:

Chisox003
06-29-2005, 10:12 PM
seriously - uribe's play in the 9th is easily the sox play of the year and the fact is, i can't remember many defensive plays i've EVER seen that have been so impressive.

what a play uribe!

I cant think of many SS's (If ANY) that would have even gotten to that ball...It was in left field! Not only did he get to it, he threw a PERFECT 1 hop bullet across his body, flat footed, from short LF to Paulie to get him....Incredible

As for shingo and viz....5 IP, and enough cant be said about the stones of our bullpen...Hermy last night, POLITTE in the 8th loading the bases with NOBODY OUT and getting out of it, and of course shingo in the 13th....

Unreal

TimoandAaron
06-29-2005, 10:12 PM
FRANK THOMAS, SHINGO TAKATSU, LUIS VIZCAINO.......................................... ........YES:supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

SoxSpeed22
06-29-2005, 10:12 PM
:drunken::nuts::thud:That's baseball for ya.
:winner

The Racehorse
06-29-2005, 10:13 PM
And KC beat the Twinks, so if my math is correct we're back to a 10-game lead!


... and the Tribe lost up in beantown. :cool:

skobabe8
06-29-2005, 10:13 PM
Picked up a FULL GAME on Minny, Cleveland, AND Detroit......YES!!

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:13 PM
I hate to be the one to say it, but the Sox were L-U-C-K-Y tonight. The Kittens lost that one in so many ways it's not funny. Bases loaded in the 8th with no outs and they can't score. Pu-leeze. And Polanco had the game-winner in the 9th if he had the sense to run through 1st instead of sliding. But you don't throw any of them back. Back to 10 'nanas.

:supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

Those bananas sure starting to look like the Rockettes, no?

Let's see:

Bottom 8, bags loaded 0 out, no runs.
Bottom 13, 2 and 3rd 1 out, and no runs

Last night - bottom 9, runner on 3rd no outs, no runs.

Unbelievable.

Don't forget, bases JUICED in bottom 13.

downstairs
06-29-2005, 10:13 PM
We're winning playoff-like baseball here in June. This is huge.

Its games like this in the past few years that we lost and saw our 5 game lead fall to a 5 game deficit over the summer.

beautiful!

I know I am biased, but to me there is only one team playing major league baseball right now, and everyone else is playing minor league baseball. We own this sport for now!

Blob
06-29-2005, 10:13 PM
Great game! Glad we handed Detroit their first loss in extra innings this year!


I wonder if Dimitri still thinks it is a two team race in the division, them and the Indians. Does anyone really race to 4th place??

JB98
06-29-2005, 10:13 PM
seriously - uribe's play in the 9th is easily the sox play of the year and the fact is, i can't remember many defensive plays i've EVER seen that have been so impressive.

what a play uribe!

That's one of the top plays of the whole season, no question. Great night for our bullpen. It started with Politte getting out a huge mess in the eighth and ended with Shingo overcoming a couple of cheap hits by Detroit in the 13th.

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:14 PM
I hate to be the one to say it, but the Sox were L-U-C-K-Y tonight. The Kittens lost that one in so many ways it's not funny. Bases loaded in the 8th with no outs and they can't score. Pu-leeze. And Polanco had the game-winner in the 9th if he had the sense to run through 1st instead of sliding. But you don't throw any of them back. Back to 10 'nanas.

:supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

They also had a lot of cheap hits to get those guys on base. Bottom line is the Sox pitchers made the pitches when they needed to. Call it whatever you want, but everything the Sox and Ozzie did tonight worked.

People may not agree with it, but I am sure as hell glad that Ozzie is in that dugout.

Brian26
06-29-2005, 10:14 PM
Let's see:

Bottom 8, bags loaded 0 out, no runs.
Bottom 13, 2 and 3rd 1 out, and no runs

Last night - bottom 9, runner on 3rd no outs, no runs.

Unbelievable.

Incredible. Amazing. Unbelievable!

Jjav829
06-29-2005, 10:14 PM
I cant think of many SS's (If ANY) that would have even gotten to that ball...It was in left field! Not only did he get to it, he threw a PERFECT 1 hop bullet across his body, flat footed, from short LF to Paulie to get him....Incredible

As for shingo and viz....5 IP, and enough cant be said about the stones of our bullpen...Hermy last night, POLITTE in the 8th loading the bases with NOBODY OUT and getting out of it, and of course shingo in the 13th....

Unreal

If that play Uribe made was made by Jeter, ESPN would fawn over Jeter the entire night. Half of SportsCenter and BBTN would be devoted to Jeter's play. Uribe....he'll be lucky if he gets a mention on Web Gems or Top Plays.

shoota
06-29-2005, 10:14 PM
Uribe's play where he ranged to his right and threw a one-hop to Konerko to nail a sliding Placido Polonco at first in the bottom of the ninth was the play of the game.

Hang a star on that one Juan! :D:

Funniest moment of the night: D.J. said, "It's not rocket surgery." Uh, D.J., there's rocket science and brain surgery, but rocket surgery?

Thomas with #444 of his career and on it became the White Sox's all time runs scored leader, passing Luke Appling.

elrod
06-29-2005, 10:14 PM
25-5 vs the division. 25-12 on the road. Amazing.

NealCotts4Life
06-29-2005, 10:14 PM
Good God, I Luuuuuuuuve this bullpen and also Frank was unbelivably dew and he broke through. Awesome game just Awesome.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:15 PM
Can someone get me the stats on Frank this year? 8 jacks in how many ABs?

Thanks in advance!

kj.hayes
06-29-2005, 10:16 PM
Yeah! What a huge win!

Huge props to McCarthy, Uribe, Thomas, and Shingo.

Mr. White Sox
06-29-2005, 10:16 PM
WOW! Take that conventional baseball!!! When Vizcaino was left in against 2 straight lefties, I was amazed...when Shingo was left in with the bases loaded in one out, I was amazed...Ozzie must know something we don't. Not to mention that play by Uribe is up there for defensive play by the year. A game-saving, flat-footed, strong-armed throw to paulie to just get Polanco...wow. What a game.

iamkoza
06-29-2005, 10:16 PM
you win a game in extra innings with viz and shingo, shouldnt that count as 2 wins due to degree of difficulty?

Brian26
06-29-2005, 10:16 PM
25-5 vs the division. 25-12 on the road. Amazing.

We're halfway through the season, and I can count on one hand the divisional losses we've had. That's just unbelievable!

The Wall
06-29-2005, 10:16 PM
If anyone still doubts Ozzie's managing skills, they should go eat some dog poo cuz they dont know what they are talking about.

Tonight he used everyone except Marte and Hermanson and they didnt give up a run.

McCarthy pitched more like the pitcher we expect him to be. If he can keep this up, he sure will be good. I love watching his high leg kick and follow through. Poor kid needs a win in pro ball right now.
:)

gosox3072
06-29-2005, 10:16 PM
Hey demitri, how are the tigers and indians doing?:)

52-24 nuff said

gobears1987
06-29-2005, 10:17 PM
Oh, also, Detroit sucks. Put on your lousy fireworks displays somewhere other than right by the park. Thanks for the distraction, you morons.

We rule.
Obviously you've never been to Detroit. I've lived 7 years in SE Michigan and can tell you that the square block around Comerica Park is the only place in the city not burned down to the ground. There is no where else to shoot the fireworks.

delben91
06-29-2005, 10:17 PM
Q: How in the name of all that is holy did the Sox win this one??

A: We don't care!
:gulp:

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:17 PM
We're halfway through the season, and I can count on one hand the divisional losses we've had. That's just unbelievable!

We can lose another and still count them on one hand if your hand is Antonio Alfonseca's.

Sox of White
06-29-2005, 10:17 PM
Holy cow! I had to work 6 to 10 tonight, so I was bummed I was going to miss the game. Around 9 a co-worker who knew I was a Sox fan, told me it was bottom of the 10th. I went into my car after work at 10 to the game on the radio to find it to be the bottom of the 13th inning. I made it home just in time to see Shingo get a huuuuuuuuuge strike out, and then the final out. I am still bummed I missed the game, but hey, I saw a very very tense ending.

jlim
06-29-2005, 10:17 PM
Can someone get me the stats on Frank this year? 8 jacks in how many ABs?

Thanks in advance!

8 Jacks in 12 AB's!

66% of the time he gets a hit, you can put it on the board...

YES!
Oops, I meant 8 homers out of 12 at bats. Still awesome though.

mike squires
06-29-2005, 10:17 PM
One important stat jumps out on me when I see the stats.

0 errors!!! Good relief pitching, defense, quality starts from your #5 guy, clutch hitting by your franchise player...that's what it's all about.

PeteWard
06-29-2005, 10:18 PM
I think what is also impressive is that Detroit came in knowing that this was their biggest series of the year. Any outside chance they have (had!) at catching the Sox depended pretty much on them sweeping the Sox. Now they could get swept and have to battle 10 other teams for the WC. They are not a bad team. Sox will have to get used to this opponent's mindset--that the Sox will be a big series for everyone-- especially starting with Cleve after the all-star break. So far, they have handled the pressure beautifully--and despite my local hatred of the North Siders, have to conclude that these wins are much more important than beating the Cubs. Maybe not emotionally, but definitely from a pennant race standpoint

DickAllen72
06-29-2005, 10:18 PM
It's Shingo Time!

Way to go, Big Frank! Nice play by Uribe! :bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

Brian26
06-29-2005, 10:18 PM
There is no where else to shoot the fireworks.

I'd like to see them shot up Dmitri Young's fat ass.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:18 PM
You think ESPN's showed the ending hilghlights yet?

ramorgan1
06-29-2005, 10:19 PM
I'm So Excited...
and I just can't hide it.

:supernana::supernana::supernana::supernana::super nana::supernana::supernana::supernana::supernana:: supernana:

sthbndsox
06-29-2005, 10:19 PM
I've gotta admit that I about had a heart attack when viz came in, and I about had 2 more each inning he was back out there. Maybe him and Shingo are turning it around? If so our bullpen is vastly improved...

iamkoza
06-29-2005, 10:19 PM
I think what is also impressive is that Detroit came in knowing that this was their biggest series of the year. Any outside chance they have (had!) at catching the Sox depended pretty much on them sweeping the Sox. Now they could get swept and have to battle 10 other teams for the WC. They are not a bad team. Sox will have to get used to this opponent's mindset--that the Sox will be a big series for everyone-- especially starting with Cleve after the all-star break. So far, they have handled the pressure beautifully--and despite my local hatred of the North Siders, have to conclude that these wins are much more important than beating the Cubs. Maybe not emotionally, but definitely from a pennant race standpoint

i dont want to play these guys anymore, sooner or later they are going to convert a runner at 3rd less than 2 outs situation

duke of dorwood
06-29-2005, 10:19 PM
Weirdest and maybe the most satisfying so far

Mr. White Sox
06-29-2005, 10:19 PM
You think ESPN's showed the ending hilghlights yet?

nope, there's another exciting game on instead...ATL 4 FLA 4 in bottom12th, runners on 1st and 2nd 2 out...SC is next I believe.

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:20 PM
I'd also like to call attention to Crede's 2 hits and 1 RBI. Where are all the Crede haters who rip his every move now? Time to show some props kiddies.

ND_Sox_Fan
06-29-2005, 10:20 PM
Shingoooooo!!!! Man, I always thought one inning was his max last year. It seemed that he got shaky when going more than one. Maybe this new fastball approach is really helping. What a great effort.

Frank! Great use of his second chance (I thought he was going to win it when he had 2 on in his fifth AB)!

Viz looking sharp.

All around :supernana:.

Brian26
06-29-2005, 10:21 PM
Weirdest and maybe the most satisfying so far

I'd still say that the Oakland loss was the weirdest (Crede at ss, Widger at 3b, then Dye at ss after Crede got rung up after the HBP was overruled, Wendlestedt fiasco).

The last two nights have been incredibly satisfying wins based on the success of the bullpen.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:21 PM
nope, there's another exciting game on instead...ATL 4 FLA 4 in bottom12th, runners on 1st and 2nd 2 out...SC is next I believe.

I'm sure they could fit some kind of video in there..

duke of dorwood
06-29-2005, 10:22 PM
Remember, Shingo has milage-maybe the infrequent use of late has brought his arm back a bit-same for Vizcaino

shoota
06-29-2005, 10:22 PM
Awesome job by the bullpen! :gulp:

Tragg
06-29-2005, 10:22 PM
With the winning run having already crossed the plate if the umpire calls the runner safe....it was HUGE! Unbelievable.

Can someone describe the play?

soxlug
06-29-2005, 10:23 PM
My first post ever on this board. Just had to after such a crazy game. I am so worn out that maybe Crazy Carl can fill in for me on the couch tomorrow. He has been clutch filling in so far from time to time.









Favorite player now Buehrle
Favorite player ever.....you guessed it Steve Kemp.

Georgey3085
06-29-2005, 10:24 PM
wow...that was a game! I really thought Uribe wasn't gonna make that play in the 9th, loved seeing McCarthy pitch well...he just needs to figure out his change up and he'll be fine, he located pitches sooo well today, especially that curveball, one mistake to Shelton, but overall really nice. Oh, and Frank, wow...congrats on having the most runs in Sox history...:supernana::supernana::supernana:

Mr. White Sox
06-29-2005, 10:24 PM
I'm sure they could fit some kind of video in there..

yeah, true, but so far, there's nothing.

BTW:
Did anyone notice Vizcaino on a close-up of the baseball? There seemed to be a convenient scuff on the ball, and it also looked like Vizcaino pissed his pants...weird, but he was effective...whatever works I s'pose.:?:

sthbndsox
06-29-2005, 10:24 PM
Can someone describe the play?

1st and 3rd with 2 out, and Placido Polanco hit a ground ball into short left field pretty much. Uribe ranged to his right and backhanded the ball. He threw across his body and threw a perfect one-hopper to Paulie at first, just beating Polanco, who dove into first.

ND_Sox_Fan
06-29-2005, 10:24 PM
Can someone describe the play?

Polanco hits a hard grounder deep in the hole at short - Juan fields it in the grass and slings a dart over to first for the out. Polanco also dove head first into the bag, instead of running through (probably safe if he does).

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 10:25 PM
I'm sure Brantley will mention the Great Pitching by Sam Takatsu

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:25 PM
Wow. Andruw Jones just hit his 25th home run. Does he play third?

fquaye149
06-29-2005, 10:26 PM
Obviously you've never been to Detroit. I've lived 7 years in SE Michigan and can tell you that the square block around Comerica Park is the only place in the city not burned down to the ground. There is no where else to shoot the fireworks.

Ok. So what you're saying is that since the square block around Comerica is the only place in the city not burned down to the ground, Detroit DOESN'T suck?


Send him to...DETROIT!!!

balke
06-29-2005, 10:26 PM
Wow. Andruw Jones just hit his 25th home run. Does he play third?

Ensberg does. But Crede is the bomb, and had an RBI tonight, so shut it.

Tragg
06-29-2005, 10:26 PM
Thanks guys.

I love great D, which is why I don't want to mess with our infield.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:27 PM
[QUOTE=fquaye149]In regards to this season:

:bandance: QUOTE]

Just a little one? Will he grow up if we make the playoffs?

Tragg
06-29-2005, 10:27 PM
I'm sure Brantley will mention the Great Pitching by Sam Takatsu

2/5 with a RBI. Can we be spared that mug for one night?

PaleHoseGeorge
06-29-2005, 10:28 PM
1st and 3rd with 2 out, and Placido Polanco hit a ground ball into short left field pretty much. Uribe ranged to his right and backhanded the ball. He threw across his body and threw a perfect one-hopper to Paulie at first, just beating Polanco, who dove into first.

You forgot to mention he was standing beyond the hole in short left field when he stopped, pivoted, and threw across his body to catch Palanco at 1B.

:hitless
"Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. If he keeps the ball in his pocket, he can blame the pitcher for giving up the hit and keep fooling a bunch of ****ing idiots about what a great defensive shortstop he is."

:walnuts
"Count me in that group, Royce. I hate when Juan sends me one of those stingers."

:cool:

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:28 PM
Ensberg does. But Crede is the bomb, and had an RBI tonight, so shut it.

Don't want Ensberg, just making a funny. Forgot the teal, but I wouldn't reject Andruw Jones...

EdHerman12
06-29-2005, 10:28 PM
Just got back from a local watering hole. The place was packed and no one left unhappy! Great fireworks display! I hope the guys get enough rest for tomorrow before heading for Oakland.....GO SOX! :gulp: <-----had a bunch of 'em!

Brian26
06-29-2005, 10:29 PM
Polanco also dove head first into the bag, instead of running through (probably safe if he does).

The magic of the play is the fact that the runner on third had already crossed the plate. It was a close play at first, and everyone held their breath waiting for the ump's call. The whole game hedged on his call. Uribe's throw bounced to Konerko on one hop, and PK stretched pretty good to grab it. When the ump put up his fist to call "out", Hawk erupted, and Polanco banged both his fists on the ground. Pure exhilaration for the Sox...and the Tigers blew their chance at the win.

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:29 PM
Just got back from a local watering hole. The place was packed and no one left unhappy! Great fireworks display! I hope the guys get enough rest for tomorrow before heading for Oakland.....GO SOX! :gulp: <-----had a bunch of 'em!

We can tell. :D:

batmanZoSo
06-29-2005, 10:30 PM
I'd like to see them shot up Dmitri Young's fat ass.

They have websites for that. :cool:

Mr. White Sox
06-29-2005, 10:31 PM
Carrie Woods + Kenny Rogers kicking a cameraman > Sox winning in 13...according to ESPN

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:31 PM
Just had the 30 at 30 update from none other than White Sox "Fan" Dave Revisine, and he mentions Kerry Wood and Kenny Rogers. Now the announcers are talking about Prior and Wood in the 13th inning of a great game... unreal...

fquaye149
06-29-2005, 10:32 PM
Can someone describe the play?

I'll try.

With 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth and the score tied, the Tigers had runners on first and third. Vizcaino was struggling and had to face a Placido Polanco who has been red hot since traded to the Tigers. Only looking for the out, the Sox infield played Polanco straight up.

Polanco scorches a ground ball to the left side of the infield. As it passes Crede playing even with the bag, a few steps to its right, Hawk is about ready to cede the game to the tigers. However, Uribe is ranging to his right and backhands it behind Crede. Of course, even picking it up, Uribe is still closer to third base than Crede, almost, and running away from first. To make matters worse, while Polanco is no Podsednik or Brandon Inge, he is far from Paul Konerko. There is almost no hope, but Uribe barely sets himself and flings the ball across the diamond, flatfooted and off his back foot.

Watching it, I can't imagine it will be close, but the throw is nearly perfect, a dart that one hops to paulie who stretches and scoops it in time to beat the diving Polanco. Uribe singlehandedly saves the game for the White Sox with an altogether unbelievable play that simultaneously displays both his range and cannon arm.

Paulie reconsiders who the best shortstop he ever played with is.

sthbndsox
06-29-2005, 10:33 PM
Carrie Woods + Kenny Rogers kicking a cameraman > Sox winning in 13...according to ESPN

I'm getting so tired of all this crap about the Cubs being back. They win 4 freakin games in a row and ESPN goes nuts. Why can't they talk about us once in awhile. I mean we win 8 or 9 games in a row and it just says that at the bottom of the box score after the game highlights. I know I shouldn't care, but I just hate being ignored.

Ol' No. 2
06-29-2005, 10:34 PM
I'll try.

With 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth and the score tied, the Tigers had runners on first and third. Vizcaino was struggling and had to face a Placido Polanco who has been red hot since traded to the Tigers. Only looking for the out, the Sox infield played Polanco straight up.

Polanco scorches a ground ball to the left side of the infield. As it passes Crede playing even with the bag, a few steps to its right, Hawk is about ready to cede the game to the tigers. However, Uribe is ranging to his right and backhands it behind Crede. Of course, even picking it up, Uribe is still closer to third base than Crede, almost, and running away from first. To make matters worse, while Polanco is no Podsednik or Brandon Inge, he is far from Paul Konerko. There is almost no hope, but Uribe barely sets himself and flings the ball across the diamond, flatfooted and off his back foot.

Watching it, I can't imagine it will be close, but the throw is nearly perfect, a dart that one hops to paulie who stretches and scoops it in time to beat the diving Polanco. Uribe singlehandedly saves the game for the White Sox with an altogether unbelievable play that simultaneously displays both his range and cannon arm.

Paulie reconsiders who the best shortstop he ever played with is.:fobbgod: Defense is overrated.

Mr. White Sox
06-29-2005, 10:34 PM
And this game will probably not be the top story; the order of highlights will be:

Carrie Woods
Angels/TEX still going in the 11th
ATL/FLA in the 13th
Spankyess/BAL Delayed
Red Flubs Win
Dodgers Win
etc.
"Hey! The Sox won! Yay!"
-ESPN

All I can say is this was the most exciting game I've seen at home...it was amazing.

Tragg
06-29-2005, 10:34 PM
You forgot to mention he was standing beyond the hole in short left field when he stopped, pivoted, and threw across his body to catch Palanco at 1B.

:hitless
"Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. If he keeps the ball in his pocket, he can blame the pitcher for giving up the hit and keep fooling a bunch of ****ing idiots about what a great defensive shortstop he is."

:walnuts
"Count me in that group, Royce. I hate when Juan sends me one of those stingers."

:cool:

Stop it!

I'm spilling my coffee laughing so hard.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:34 PM
Paulie reconsiders who the best shortstop he ever played with is.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_117244.jpg
"I'd rather be safe than sorry... just hold the ball, Juan!"

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 10:36 PM
Well at least we know who will be closing while Hermy is with his dad.

PaleHoseGeorge
06-29-2005, 10:38 PM
The whining about ESPN's lack of coverage is getting tiresome, quickly approaching attendance threads in obnoxiousness.

ESPN is entertainment. They only care about viewership. They get more viewers feeding a steady diet of nonsense to the legions of Yankees, Red Sox, and Flubbie fans.

Time to just start dealing with it, okay.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:38 PM
Well at least we know who will be closing while Hermy is with his dad.

No teal, I swear, but I just might be fine with every single guy in the bullpen closing out a game...

Now I know I'll get drilled on here for saying that, but I honestly do...

Cowhead418
06-29-2005, 10:39 PM
I'm sure glad I'm not a Tiggers fan right now! I'd be fuming over all the blown opportunities in the last two games!:D:


:supernana: to McCarthy, Konerko, Crede, Thomas, Politte, Vizcaino and Shingo!

52-24! Wow, just amazing.:)

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 10:40 PM
No teal, I swear, but I just might be fine with every single guy in the bullpen closing out a game...

Now I know I'll get drilled on here for saying that, but I honestly do...:vizcaino:
WAHOOO!

ATXBMX
06-29-2005, 10:40 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050630/capt.dts10206300118.white_sox_tigers_dts102.jpg


Frank makes them pay for throwing at his head.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:41 PM
The whining about ESPN's lack of coverage is getting tiresome, quickly approaching attendance threads in obnoxiousness.

ESPN is entertainment. They only care about viewership. They get more viewers feeding a steady diet of nonsense to the legions of Yankees, Red Sox, and Flubbie fans.

Time to just start dealing with it, okay.

I think it's frustration more than anything, and seeing the team get its 52nd win tonight, the frustration only gets larger. They didn't talk about the Marlins in 2003, and they didn't cover the Pistons until they won it all. I'd say there's a message there. I'm exceedingly happy with the mindset of this team, and this is the best chance they have (in my lifetime) to win it all...

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:41 PM
My Jolly Pumpkin beer (which tastes great anyways) sure as hell tastes even better tonight!

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:41 PM
:vizcaino:
WAHOOO!

You're welcome, Viz... you'll come around...

PBRWarrior
06-29-2005, 10:42 PM
I've gotta admit that I about had a heart attack when viz came in, and I about had 2 more each inning he was back out there. Maybe him and Shingo are turning it around? If so our bullpen is vastly improved...

I really applaud ozzie for understanding that he had to play shingo and viz in key situations to get confidence in both of these struggling pitchers back. He understands that we are really going to need to count on them down the stretch. If you look around the league, this is a year that there are really no great bullpen guys that people are willing to give up in a trade. We are going to have to go with what we have and he has to rally these guys and that means do not avoid using certain guys because your trust has been a bit shaken. Shingo was awesome last year for a reason and I really hope that he turns the corner and regains that Mr. Zero mantra.

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 10:43 PM
Shingo's ERA is now down to 4.56.

MrRoboto83
06-29-2005, 10:43 PM
It is really great to see Shingo back in form

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 10:46 PM
Odd, the Crede haters haven't come by to congratualte him on a nice game. Surely they'd be here if he had a bad evening.

Tragg
06-29-2005, 10:46 PM
"What do you expect me to do? Dive for it?"

:hitless


"Thank You Josh"

:crede

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:47 PM
Speaking of defensive plays by JU -

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/DTS10106300118_thumbnail.jpeg (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/photos?photoId=794190&gameId=250629106)

Fourth inning, IRod trying to score....

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_346874.jpg
"I don't think so, fat head"

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:48 PM
:crede
"Here I come, guys..."

BlackHat91
06-29-2005, 10:49 PM
Man, just the other day some people were crapping all over Shingo. SOmeone even mentioned it was time for him to be traded. Come on, we all know Shingo has it in him to pull off some huge saves. This game hopefully brought his confidence back up a notch. Either way this is was a great game and once again the SOX are clawing and scraping their way to some big wins.

ND_Sox_Fan
06-29-2005, 10:51 PM
Man, just the other day some people were crapping all over Shingo. SOmeone even mentioned it was time for him to be traded. Come on, we all know Shingo has it in him to pull off some huge saves. This game hopefully brought his confidence back up a notch. Either way this is was a great game and once again the SOX are clawing and scraping their way to some big wins.

That trademark smile of his was back after this one - something that has been missing.

soxfan123
06-29-2005, 10:51 PM
No teal, I swear, but I just might be fine with every single guy in the bullpen closing out a game...

Now I know I'll get drilled on here for saying that, but I honestly do...

I think that's a fair statement. Who hasn't proven that he can get outs consistently? Maybe Vizcaino, but I look at him and think with every one of his pitches moving like a Matt Clement repertoir that he can get the job done with some more confidence. I talked to a buddy of mine, a die-hard Brewers fan, and he said that he was a very reliable source and that he will get the outs with time. After tonight, I would have to agree with you. Although in a tight ballgame, just give the ball to The Herminator.

What a game...I have so much confidence in this team.

nedlug
06-29-2005, 10:52 PM
Wow, great game just ended on ESPN... even better than our game tonight!

There is no way the Atlanta should have lost that game...

PBRWarrior
06-29-2005, 10:53 PM
I think it's frustration more than anything, and seeing the team get its 52nd win tonight, the frustration only gets larger. They didn't talk about the Marlins in 2003, and they didn't cover the Pistons until they won it all. I'd say there's a message there. I'm exceedingly happy with the mindset of this team, and this is the best chance they have (in my lifetime) to win it all...

Poop on ESPN. All of them has beens from Reynolds to Kruk to that never was Gammons. We dont need the big media coverage or the respect from those jerks because we love our team and we know when it comes down to it they are the best team in baseball. I do wish our damn local chicago papers would give the Sox more credit though. I am so sick of picking them up every single day to read about every stupid little thing that happens about the scrubs but then they pass over what a good game the sox played. We will continue to fly under the rader and keep pounding out wins. Love that KC pounded the twinkies.

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 10:55 PM
damn that last inning for Shingo was pitched all on guts. It was clear that he didn't have it anymore. Props to him.

TomC727
06-29-2005, 10:59 PM
I forgot to post this last night about last nights game I was at but I must say, the detroit radio announcers were giving some major credit to the sox, saying how the tigers are playing the BEST team in baseball and how the sox have been amazing. They were giving us more attention than the media here in chicago has.

johnnyg83
06-29-2005, 10:59 PM
Unbelievable. Great win because of the contributions from three heretofore struggling pitchers: McCarthy, Vizcaino and Shingo.


Great point.

BlackHat91
06-29-2005, 10:59 PM
Shingo says:

"暗い雲は出口を今喜ばす"


BTW we need a Shingo pic in the icon pictures.

RadioheadRocks
06-29-2005, 11:01 PM
My first post ever on this board. Just had to after such a crazy game. I am so worn out that maybe Crazy Carl can fill in for me on the couch tomorrow. He has been clutch filling in so far from time to time.

Welcome aboard! Glad you could join the party! Enjoy!!! :D: :welcome:

Have a banana! :supernana:

elrod
06-29-2005, 11:01 PM
I forgot to post this last night about last nights game I was at but I must say, the detroit radio announcers were giving some major credit to the sox, saying how the tigers are playing the BEST team in baseball and how the sox have been amazing. They were giving us more attention than the media here in chicago has.

To be perfectly honest, some of the best props all year have come from opposing team's broadcast teams. I watched the Tigers' TV broadcast tonight and they had nothing but praise for the way Ozzie ran the team, and the balance up and down the lineup. And why should that be surprising? Opposing team announcers have to think about two teams each night: their own and the White Sox. Naturally, they are going to comment on why the Sox have the best record in baseball.

ElevenUp
06-29-2005, 11:02 PM
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/images/schedule/broadcasters/hawk.jpg What a play by Juan Uribe....mercy!!

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 11:02 PM
here you go:
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_430968.jpg

sthbndsox
06-29-2005, 11:08 PM
Did anyone just see the SC clip of Juan Ooriebie's top play nominee??

ND_Sox_Fan
06-29-2005, 11:08 PM
Stuart Scott just called the Sox game a "wild banannas game."

:supernana::supernana:"Was he talking about us?"

slavko
06-29-2005, 11:10 PM
And many thanks to Brandon Inge for swinging at balls 3 and 4 and turning them into strikes 2 and 3 in the 13th. Shingo's velocity was down a bit but his slow stuff looked a tad more under control. He's useful again!

nedlug
06-29-2005, 11:10 PM
Did anyone just see the SC clip of Juan Ooriebie's top play nominee??

now THAT was a peg. Glad to see SC showing the great D tonight... those were some great catches by Inge!

Also nice to see IRod get real pissed after getting struck out by Viz! Nice!

AND WE WERE IN FRONT OF THE CUBS! Woohoo!

Huisj
06-29-2005, 11:13 PM
Obviously you've never been to Detroit. I've lived 7 years in SE Michigan and can tell you that the square block around Comerica Park is the only place in the city not burned down to the ground. There is no where else to shoot the fireworks.

They said on the Detroit broadcast that it was a celebration down on the riverfront, which is a decent number of blocks from the stadium. Under normal circumstances, the game would have been over during the fireworks anyway if it hadn't gone into extra innings.

My question is why are they having their big fireworks show on Wednesday, June 29? Guess July 4 isn't good enough? I mean at least wait until the weekend!

oh well, it's detroit, so who knows what the reason was.

EDIT: Ok, I just found out it was the International Freedom Festival Fireworks going on as a joint thing between Detroit and Windsor. I guess that kind of makes sense then.

Mr. White Sox
06-29-2005, 11:14 PM
it was "let's not commit crime!" day.

spiffie
06-29-2005, 11:14 PM
Dear Mr. Guillen,

Regarding the performance of Mssrs. Crede, Vizcaino, and Takatsu, I guess there is a reason why you make the bleeping lineup instead of me. I will go warm up a plate of chicken fried crow right now, and revel in our lead being back to double digits.

Yours Truly,
One of Carl Everett's 99%

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 11:15 PM
it was "let's not commit crime!" day.

:rolling:

Norberto7
06-29-2005, 11:15 PM
I'd like to see them shot up Dmitri Young's fat ass.
:rolling:

This is definitely one of those "other forty" that Hawk talks about. No possible way any Sox team besides this year's comes out of there with a victory.

I also wouldn't be adverse to having a guy like Inge on the Sox....solid baseball player.

SOXintheBURGH
06-29-2005, 11:18 PM
Jesus.. just saw highlights a minute go. Nice job boys. Shingo and Frank coming though makes me even more excited.

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 11:18 PM
:rolling:

This is definitely one of those "other forty" that Hawk talks about. No possible way any Sox team besides this year's comes out of there with a victory.

I also wouldn't be adverse to having a guy like Inge on the Sox....solid baseball player.i agree. the only problem is that he plays in the same division that the sox do. Does anyone want me to make a sig of Inge in a Sox uniform.

White Sox Josh
06-29-2005, 11:19 PM
:worship::worship::worship:http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_430968.jpg

ilsox7
06-29-2005, 11:22 PM
i agree. the only problem is that he plays in the same division that the sox do. Does anyone want me to make a sig of Inge in a Sox uniform.

Inge is like one of the foundations for Detroit's future.

BigEdWalsh
06-29-2005, 11:24 PM
What a terrific game!!
Really, really great to see Shingo succeed. :D:

MrRoboto83
06-29-2005, 11:24 PM
:rolling:

This is definitely one of those "other forty" that Hawk talks about. No possible way any Sox team besides this year's comes out of there with a victory.

I also wouldn't be adverse to having a guy like Inge on the Sox....solid baseball player.


You are right, last year no way we win this game.

RadioheadRocks
06-29-2005, 11:24 PM
Ok, I just found out it was the International Freedom Festival Fireworks going on as a joint thing between Detroit and Windsor. I guess that kind of makes sense then.

Yep, and Canada Day is Friday, and the 4th is next Monday... it's two, two, two celebrations in one! :D: :D: :D:

TaylorStSox
06-29-2005, 11:24 PM
You forgot to mention he was standing beyond the hole in short left field when he stopped, pivoted, and threw across his body to catch Palanco at 1B.

:hitless
"Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. If he keeps the ball in his pocket, he can blame the pitcher for giving up the hit and keep fooling a bunch of ****ing idiots about what a great defensive shortstop he is."

:walnuts
"Count me in that group, Royce. I hate when Juan sends me one of those stingers."

:cool:

Also...........It was almost a blueprint of the play he made to save the game in Colorado.

I have to say that was one of the best played defensive games I've seen. I'm talking about the Tigers D as well. We had to hit one out of the park to score late with the way they were throwing the leather.

flo-B-flo
06-29-2005, 11:25 PM
uribe clutch defense, and shingo with some nice pitching That was a HUGE play by Juan U. He ****s that up and it's game. Shingo's velocity was higher that usual. And he got em' out.:smile:

MrRoboto83
06-29-2005, 11:26 PM
That was a HUGE play by Juan U. He ****s that up and it's game. Shingo's velocity was higher that usual. And he got em' out.:smile:



Not to mention Shingo was throwing a lot of first pitch strikes, he is much more effective that way!

TaylorStSox
06-29-2005, 11:27 PM
The whining about ESPN's lack of coverage is getting tiresome, quickly approaching attendance threads in obnoxiousness.

ESPN is entertainment. They only care about viewership. They get more viewers feeding a steady diet of nonsense to the legions of Yankees, Red Sox, and Flubbie fans.

Time to just start dealing with it, okay.


THANK YOU!!! Somebody had to say it. Guess what, life isn't fair! ESPN has the right to cover sports as they see fit. It's a private organization. If you don't like it, then DONT WATCH.

flo-B-flo
06-29-2005, 11:30 PM
Let's see:

Bottom 8, bags loaded 0 out, no runs.
Bottom 13, 2 and 3rd 1 out, and no runs

Last night - bottom 9, runner on 3rd no outs, no runs.

Unbelievable. Keeping them from scoring is just as important as scoring. Well....almost.

sthbndsox
06-29-2005, 11:34 PM
:rolling:

This is definitely one of those "other forty" that Hawk talks about. No possible way any Sox team besides this year's comes out of there with a victory.

If we keep winning at this pace, we may have to start borrowing from our 60 losses... :bandance: :bandance:

shoota
06-29-2005, 11:46 PM
Last night I questioned whether Uribe was 100% healthy, and I sure got my answer tonight. :D: Nice job Juan.

ode to veeck
06-29-2005, 11:53 PM
We left for dinner right after Hurt's HR in the 13th. We just got home and watched the Tivo of the 13th and another cardiac finish by the bullpen. Way to go Shingo! Soro soro taihen, nee!

Mr. White Sox
06-29-2005, 11:56 PM
as an aside:

take a look at the Sox/Kitties highlights on mlb.com...I find the Detroit guys to be intense and pretty cool.

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:01 AM
I cant think of many SS's (If ANY) that would have even gotten to that ball...It was in left field! Not only did he get to it, he threw a PERFECT 1 hop bullet across his body, flat footed, from short LF to Paulie to get him....Incredible:buddylee

Pshaw!! A routine play for the greatness that is me. Have you seen my fielding percentage record?

:walnuts

That's right, Roycie!! You are the best shortstop I've ever played with. Nobody is even close!!

ode to veeck
06-30-2005, 12:01 AM
Dear Mr. Guillen,

Regarding the performance of Mssrs. Crede, Vizcaino, and Takatsu, I guess there is a reason why you make the bleeping lineup instead of me. I will go warm up a plate of chicken fried crow right now, and revel in our lead being back to double digits.



LOL! POTW material after the last two nights.

soxfanreggie
06-30-2005, 12:05 AM
I don't know how I did it, but when it went to extras, I said 13 inn. and Frank ends it on the solo shot. Low and behold. I was so happy to be hanging out with some Sox fans I met watching the game. We were all cheering when they one with high fives all around.

Great confidence builder for the pen. Cotts is due to give up a run once in a while, just tough BMac lost another good chance to win a game. He needs that first win.

JB98
06-30-2005, 12:06 AM
:buddylee

Pshaw!! A routine play for the greatness that is me. Have you seen my fielding percentage record?

:walnuts

That's right, Roycie!! You are the best shortstop I've ever played with. Nobody is even close!!

I'm surprised PK didn't miss the throw on purpose. After all, everyone knows he hates Uribe.

fquaye149
06-30-2005, 12:11 AM
I'm surprised PK didn't miss the throw on purpose. After all, everyone knows he hates Uribe.

lol. after uribe shows reason number 598319394 why paulie's an idiot for claiming royce is the best ss he ever played with, this is the only defense you can muster?

That was a HUGE play by Juan U. He ****s that up and it's game.

absolutely, but it's not so much he ****s that up and it's game. It's if he's pretty much any other ss in major league baseball (with so few exceptions I can hardly think of any) and it's game. It's not comparable in scope to Willie's polo grounds catch, but it's the same idea - gloves a ball he had no business even getting to and then makes an unbelievable throw he has no business making.

Honestly, I count that among the greatest plays I've seen in my lifetime. And I've seen a few.

TaylorStSox
06-30-2005, 12:13 AM
lol. after uribe shows reason number 598319394 why paulie's an idiot for claiming royce is the best ss he ever played with, this is the only defense you can muster?



absolutely, but it's not so much he ****s that up and it's game. It's if he's pretty much any other ss in major league baseball (with so few exceptions I can hardly think of any) and it's game. It's not comparable in scope to Willie's polo grounds catch, but it's the same idea - gloves a ball he had no business even getting to and then makes an unbelievable throw he has no business making.

Honestly, I count that among the greatest plays I've seen in my lifetime. And I've seen a few.

The only other SS who makes that play, IMO, is Furcal.

fquaye149
06-30-2005, 12:15 AM
The only other SS who makes that play, IMO, is Furcal.

Yeah, I think you're right. Many ss's have Juan beat in range. Still others (though not a whole lot) have his arm beat. However, I think only Furcal, and maybe Vizquel have the combination to make that play.

Perhaps if A-rod weren't being played so grossly out of position by queen george he makes that play...though I don't know if he has the range.

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:15 AM
lol. after uribe shows reason number 598319394 why paulie's an idiot for claiming royce is the best ss he ever played with, this is the only defense you can muster?He's a Chief aPaulogist. What do you expect? He really does believe The Choice is perhaps the greatest shortstop ever and Uribe sucks. :o:

chidonez
06-30-2005, 12:18 AM
I'm a bit late to the party, but I watched the whole damn thing on the treadmill in the gym. That's right, me and my laptop, Wi-Fi, and MLB.tv...

I've got a nasty neck-ache about now from looking down to my right.

Nellie_Fox
06-30-2005, 12:18 AM
Odd, the Crede haters haven't come by to congratulate him on a nice game. Surely they'd be here if he had a bad evening.I ignored the first post begging for Crede love. Yours is the second. Are you just trying to get someone to say something negative in a positive thread? By this kind of post, you gave people only three choices: ignore you (which is probably the one I should have taken,) say: "oh, you're right, Crede is the man, I've been wrong all along," or to point out that it's only one pretty good night in an otherwise mediocre career, and end up being a negative post. Okay, Crede had a decent night. Thanks Joe. Does that make up for his performance day after day, year after year?

It's not like it was some magical, dominant night from Crede. It was an okay night. Damn, don't try calling people out and making them have to sound negative when there's no reason to until he shows that he's a day-in, day-out offensive presence.

I don't rip Crede, but I also don't congratulate everybody who has a two-hit ballgame.

TaylorStSox
06-30-2005, 12:19 AM
Yeah, I think you're right. Many ss's have Juan beat in range. Still others (though not a whole lot) have his arm beat. However, I think only Furcal, and maybe Vizquel have the combination to make that play.

Perhaps if A-rod weren't being played so grossly out of position by queen george he makes that play...though I don't know if he has the range.


A-rod does make that play.


Uribe does so many things fundamentally wrong. He's the perfect case for not messing with a guy. He's gotten this far on natural talent and developing his own style.

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:20 AM
Holy crap. I just saw the Uribe play on mlb.tv replays. Shut the **** up aPaulogists. Your boy Roycie could have never made that play, ever, no way, no how. My gawd, what a cannon.

fquaye149
06-30-2005, 12:22 AM
A-rod does make that play.


Uribe does so many things fundamentally wrong. He's the perfect case for not messing with a guy. He's gotten this far on natural talent and developing his own style.

he's not above a few fundamentals on offense, however. not to be a dark cloud, but that swing is UGLY...and he's not making vlad type music up there.

I'll sacrifice a few BA points for his defense, however (not to mention his penchant for moving the runners from third to home...does he still have the league lead in sac flies?)

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 12:23 AM
Holy crap. I just saw the Uribe play on mlb.tv replays. Shut the **** up aPaulogists. Your boy Roycie could have never made that play, ever, no way, no how. My gawd, what a cannon.

:yup:

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:23 AM
It's not like it was some magical, dominant night from Crede. It was an okay night. Damn, don't try calling people out and making them have to sound negative when there's no reason to until he shows that he's a day-in, day-out offensive presence.Nellie, you're taking ilsox out of context. He's baiting shoota, who is quite insane. He invents fictional "statistics" to make Crede worse than he is. It's all part of a rather entertaining game. :D:

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 12:25 AM
I ignored the first post begging for Crede love. Yours is the second. Are you just trying to get someone to say something negative in a positive thread? By this kind of post, you gave people only three choices: ignore you (which is probably the one I should have taken,) say: "oh, you're right, Crede is the man, I've been wrong all along," or to point out that it's only one pretty good night in an otherwise mediocre career, and end up being a negative post. Okay, Crede had a decent night. Thanks Joe. Does that make up for his performance day after day, year after year?

It's not like it was some magical, dominant night from Crede. It was an okay night. Damn, don't try calling people out and making them have to sound negative when there's no reason to until he shows that he's a day-in, day-out offensive presence.

I don't rip Crede, but I also don't congratulate everybody who has a two-hit ballgame.

No, I am trying to show the Crede bashers how utterly annoying it is when they come around after every single thing he does wrong. It's annoying isn't it? Of course this wasn't a banner night for Joe. But every little thing he does should not be highlited. So while they highlite every bad thing, I will highlite every good thing. When they stop, I stop.

TaylorStSox
06-30-2005, 12:26 AM
he's not above a few fundamentals on offense, however. not to be a dark cloud, but that swing is UGLY...and he's not making vlad type music up there.

I'll sacrifice a few BA points for his defense, however (not to mention his penchant for moving the runners from third to home...does he still have the league lead in sac flies?)

I still think he'll hit .265-.270. His power numbers are down but his production is still good. He's an excellent situational hitter IMO.

When he does get hot, he's so wild at the plate that there's no way to pitch him. In a sense, that's why he can be a mini Vlad.

There's another mini Vlad playing in Texas already though. But, he's so insanely bad defensively that I'd rather watch Todd Walker play 2nd base.

Nellie_Fox
06-30-2005, 12:28 AM
Nellie, you're taking ilsox out of context. He's baiting shoota, who is quite insane. He invents fictional "statistics" to make Crede worse than he is. It's all part of a rather entertaining game. I guess I just can't follow all the subtexts.

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 12:28 AM
I still think he'll hit .265-.270. His power numbers are down but his production is still good. He's an excellent situational hitter IMO.

When he does get hot, he's so wild at the plate that there's no way to pitch him. In a sense, that's why he can be a mini Vlad.

There's another mini Vlad playing in Texas already though. But, he's so insanely bad defensively that I'd rather watch Todd Walker play 2nd base.

Call me crazy, but I think a good part of the reason his power numbers are down is b/c he comes up in a lot of situations where he needs to move a runner along by going to the right side and is not up there swinging for the fences. Good, solid team baseball. May hurt the personal stats, but helps the win column.

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:29 AM
No, I am trying to show the Crede bashers how utterly annoying it is when they come around after every single thing he does wrong. It's annoying isn't it? Of course this wasn't a banner night for Joe. But every little thing he does should not be highlited. So while they highlite every bad thing, I will highlite every good thing. When they stop, I stop.Well it's more than that. Shoota invents "errors" and "non hits". :redneck

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 12:29 AM
I guess I just can't follow all the subtexts.

Didn't mean to piss you off Nellie. As West said, I have been on a mission as of late to prove a few points.

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 12:30 AM
Well it's more than that. Shoota invents "errors" and "non hits". :redneck

Yes. Yes he does. I am still wondering if he counts last night as a win b/c Ivan's triple is a homer in any other park. I mean, isn't the game still tied, even now?

TaylorStSox
06-30-2005, 12:31 AM
Call me crazy, but I think a good part of the reason his power numbers are down is b/c he comes up in a lot of situations where he needs to move a runner along by going to the right side and is not up there swinging for the fences. Good, solid team baseball. May hurt the personal stats, but helps the win column.

I agree. He has a plan at the plate. The homers that I remember from this year, were all opposite field.

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:32 AM
I guess I just can't follow all the subtexts.I'm entertained by lunatics. :redface:

It must be my educational background. :D:

PicktoCLick72
06-30-2005, 12:33 AM
I have to say I do not think we will have a game like this for a while.

ode to veeck
06-30-2005, 12:37 AM
Crede actually had one of the 3 key hits in the game, knocking in the 1st run and setting up the second. The others were the HRs by Paulie and Hurt, obviously. Other than that there was noting notable in the last 11 innings from the Sox at the plate.

shoota
06-30-2005, 12:40 AM
I agree. He has a plan at the plate. The homers that I remember from this year, were all opposite field.

HAHA, 5 of Crede's 6 home runs he's hit at U.S. Cellular were hit to left field. And the one that was hit the opposite way (hitting the right field foul pole) was not intentionally hit that way. Crede and his long swing were just late on the pitch. And for the record, since that lone "opposite field" home run came with the a Sox 8-2 lead late in the game, I don't recognize it or his 3 RBI he received on the at bat.

I guess your bias really showed through on that comment. Burn on you.

skobabe8
06-30-2005, 12:40 AM
Web Gems on BBTN had Brandon Inge's catch on Scotty #1. The only web gem from the game. :?:

TaylorStSox
06-30-2005, 12:41 AM
I ignored the first post begging for Crede love. Yours is the second. Are you just trying to get someone to say something negative in a positive thread? By this kind of post, you gave people only three choices: ignore you (which is probably the one I should have taken,) say: "oh, you're right, Crede is the man, I've been wrong all along," or to point out that it's only one pretty good night in an otherwise mediocre career, and end up being a negative post. Okay, Crede had a decent night. Thanks Joe. Does that make up for his performance day after day, year after year?

It's not like it was some magical, dominant night from Crede. It was an okay night. Damn, don't try calling people out and making them have to sound negative when there's no reason to until he shows that he's a day-in, day-out offensive presence.

I don't rip Crede, but I also don't congratulate everybody who has a two-hit ballgame.


My view on the Crede situation is that there's a handful of people on this board that don't like the guy so much that they'd rather see he him fail.

There's a guy on this team that I truly can't stand. I hate his attitude. I think he's overated. However, I'm not going to break down every play that he makes just to criticize him. Despite what I think of the guy, he's still a White Sox. I support him.

I'll give you a clue...his range makes Durham look like Ozzie Smith.

TaylorStSox
06-30-2005, 12:41 AM
HAHA, 5 of Crede's 6 home runs he's hit at U.S. Cellular were hit to left field. And the one that was hit the opposite way (hitting the right field foul pole) was not intentionally hit that way. Crede and his long swing were just late on the pitch. And for the record, since that lone "opposite field" home run came with the a Sox 8-2 lead late in the game, I don't recognize it or his 3 RBI he received on the at bat.

I guess your bias really showed through on that comment. Burn on you.

I'm was talking about Juan Uribe. LOL

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:52 AM
I'm was talking about Juan Uribe. LOLI know. Did Shoota completely embarrass himself or what? Wow. And you talk about a burn. :redneck

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 12:53 AM
I'm was talking about Juan Uribe. LOL

Isn't it fun when they dig their own grave?

ode to veeck
06-30-2005, 12:54 AM
:tomatoaward :tomatoaward two tomates, pertty good for a W night

shoota
06-30-2005, 12:56 AM
I'm was talking about Juan Uribe. LOL

Well, then burn on me.

But to continue my thought that Crede's a dead-pull only hitter with no power the other way, here's a few more examples.

The other 4 home runs Crede has this year:

Comerica Park: Left field
Coors Field: Left-center (not counted in my 2005 scorebook because it came late in the game in a blowout against the Rockies.)
PETCO Park: Left-center
Wrigley Field: Left field

shoota
06-30-2005, 12:58 AM
I know. Did Shoota completely embarrass himself or what? Wow. And you talk about a burn. :redneck

That was a burn on me. Now I know how Crede feels after striking out on an 0-2 pitch in the dirt. :(:

FarWestChicago
06-30-2005, 12:59 AM
But to continue my thought that Crede's a dead-pull only hitter with no power the other way...Why? It's not like anybody cares. Look up "solipsism" in the dictionary. :D:

Jjav829
06-30-2005, 01:01 AM
Well, then burn on me.

But to continue my thought that Crede's a dead-pull only hitter with no power the other way, here's a few more examples.


Yeah, because there are no successful players in the major leagues who are dead-pull hitters with no power the other way. :?:

StillMissOzzie
06-30-2005, 01:03 AM
Funniest moment of the night: D.J. said, "It's not rocket surgery." Uh, D.J., there's rocket science and brain surgery, but rocket surgery?

Thomas with #444 of his career and on it became the White Sox's all time runs scored leader, passing Luke Appling.

Then DJ would be correct, as it's not rocket surgery either.:D:

I saw that runs scored stat on ESPN.com, too. Frank scored run #1,320, passing Appling at 1,319.

And, I gotta agree with Ol' #2, the Sox were lucky to win this game. While the bullpen was fantastic and Uribe's play was superb, consider this: what if the tables were turned and the Sox were at home and lost this game after pissing away the many opportunities that the Tiggers did. Think of all the hand wringing and tooth gnashing and cuss words getting filtered...

And finally, Inge got the Web Gem #1 'cuz he made two fine running catches. I guess that's MUCH more important than saving the game. And Polanco, until they repeal the law of gravity, running through 1st base is still the fastest way to get there, you dope!

SMO
:gulp:

ShoelessJoeS
06-30-2005, 01:04 AM
Yeah, because there are no successful players in the major leagues who are dead-pull hitters with no power the other way. :?:
yeah, and the fact that his defense is awful makes him unbearable to watch

owensmouth
06-30-2005, 02:04 AM
He's a Chief aPaulogist. What do you expect? He really does believe The Choice is perhaps the greatest shortstop ever and Uribe sucks. :o:

When did Konerko say that Uribe sucks?

milrtyme28
06-30-2005, 02:04 AM
I didn't see most of the game, and to be honest, I thought Ozzie was making a colossal mistake using Vizcaino for the 9th, so here's to a delicious plate of cooked crow for me, and a beer to tip in honor of the relief staff, Juan Uribe's D, and Big Frank for the game-winning shot.

:gulp:


exactly the post I planned to make - no point in typing it twice.

JB98
06-30-2005, 02:14 AM
He's a Chief aPaulogist. What do you expect? He really does believe The Choice is perhaps the greatest shortstop ever and Uribe sucks. :o:

I've never once said Uribe sucks, and earlier tonight, I referred to his play in the ninth as one of the best of the whole season. In fact, I think Uribe and Crede are two of the three best defensive players (along with Rowand) on the team, and I've defended them against posters who have tried to send them to the bench because of their offensive deficiencies.

It's pretty obvious that you're sick of the so-called "Dark Clouds" on this board. That's fine. But just understand that I'm equally sick of all this whining from the anti-Konerko crowd. The PK comment about Choice was a tempest in teapot. It's long since forgotten by everyone except a select group of Konerko-haters who bring it up at every possible turn. I remember people crying and weeping in a 200-post-plus thread that PK had "destroyed team chemistry." Well, we're 52-24, and we continue to play good team baseball, winning consistently. Obviously, this supposed "Uribe-bashing" had no effect whatsoever on the team. Let it go.

mmmmmbeeer
06-30-2005, 05:46 AM
Then DJ would be correct, as it's not rocket surgery either.:D:

I saw that runs scored stat on ESPN.com, too. Frank scored run #1,320, passing Appling at 1,319.

And, I gotta agree with Ol' #2, the Sox were lucky to win this game. While the bullpen was fantastic and Uribe's play was superb, consider this: what if the tables were turned and the Sox were at home and lost this game after pissing away the many opportunities that the Tiggers did. Think of all the hand wringing and tooth gnashing and cuss words getting filtered...

And finally, Inge got the Web Gem #1 'cuz he made two fine running catches. I guess that's MUCH more important than saving the game. And Polanco, until they repeal the law of gravity, running through 1st base is still the fastest way to get there, you dope!

SMO
:gulp:

I think that Polanco was anticipating an off-line throw from Uribe, considering the difficulty of the play. If he's on the ground sliding, Paulie won't be able to put the tag on him.

Dan H
06-30-2005, 06:27 AM
Games like this show the difference between contenders and pretenders. Sox know how to win; Detroit doesn't. There is something special about this time. Even when they look like they are going to lose; they win. I am looking to facing Minnesota and once and for all put the Twins out of their 2005 misery.

Wsoxmike59
06-30-2005, 06:38 AM
Can someone describe the play?

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/mediaplayer/context.jsp?pid=mlb_tp&gid=2005/06/29/chamlb-detmlb-1&fid=mlb_tp350

Click on Uribe's clutch play for viewing.

fquaye149
06-30-2005, 08:31 AM
Why? It's not like anybody cares. Look up "solipsism" in the dictionary. :D:

do you think shoota comes to know himself through his hatred of crede?

that is, does he look in the mirror and start braying?

fquaye149
06-30-2005, 08:33 AM
When did Konerko say that Uribe sucks?

he said that royce clayton is the greatest ss he ever played with. since royce sucks, that means paulie is saying every other ss he ever played with really sucks.

this is a logically sound statement so don't tell me i'm "reading too much into it".

nothing about what I've said above is incorrect.

fquaye149
06-30-2005, 08:36 AM
I've never once said Uribe sucks, and earlier tonight, I referred to his play in the ninth as one of the best of the whole season. In fact, I think Uribe and Crede are two of the three best defensive players (along with Rowand) on the team, and I've defended them against posters who have tried to send them to the bench because of their offensive deficiencies.

It's pretty obvious that you're sick of the so-called "Dark Clouds" on this board. That's fine. But just understand that I'm equally sick of all this whining from the anti-Konerko crowd. The PK comment about Choice was a tempest in teapot. It's long since forgotten by everyone except a select group of Konerko-haters who bring it up at every possible turn. I remember people crying and weeping in a 200-post-plus thread that PK had "destroyed team chemistry." Well, we're 52-24, and we continue to play good team baseball, winning consistently. Obviously, this supposed "Uribe-bashing" had no effect whatsoever on the team. Let it go.

hey! I noticed the sears tower hasn't fallen despite me hitting it with a baseball bat every day.

Should I keep hitting it with a baseball bat JB

(note: I do not actually hit the sears tower with a baseball bat, nor do I recommend one hit the sears tower with a baseball bat)

ode to veeck
06-30-2005, 08:39 AM
I didn't read too much into Paulie's comments on Choice. The guy played infield next to him for a couple of years, and he offered up his respects. Move on. This team has too much going for it to be perturbed by it.

PaleHoseGeorge
06-30-2005, 08:45 AM
Holy crap. I just saw the Uribe play on mlb.tv replays. Shut the **** up aPaulogists. Your boy Roycie could have never made that play, ever, no way, no how. My gawd, what a cannon.

Well, at the risk of simply repeating myself from last night on this very topic...
:cool:

:hitless
"Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Uribe should've just left the ball in his pocket and let the pitcher take the blame for giving up the base hit. He doesn't know jack about how to maintain the greatest fielding percentage record that will probably last forever. Besides, I've got every ****ing idiot in the game thinking I'm the greatest defensive shortstop ever!"

:walnuts
"Count me in that group, Royce. I hate when Juan sends over those stingers!"

Sxy Mofo
06-30-2005, 09:08 AM
This again?


*yawn*

infohawk
06-30-2005, 09:45 AM
So let's see. Not only do the Sox win, but Ozzie allows his much maligned relievers to gain their confidence in huge, pressure situations.

Eat it Dark Clouds.

Excellent job by the "B" team out of the bullpen. I know that both Cotts and Politte played, but Vizcaino and Shingo carried the bulk of the work. Shingo looks like he is coming around. If our bullpen "B" team becomes lights out, look out!

slobes
06-30-2005, 10:00 AM
Shingo is scoreless in his last 7 or 8 innings, maybe he's finally coming around...

DaleJRFan
06-30-2005, 10:11 AM
Shingo is scoreless in his last 7 or 8 innings, maybe he's finally coming around...

Shingo had outstanding command lastnight, I was very impressed. And he was getting majorly squeezed on some calls... threw some strikes that were called balls. Vizzy looked really good too. Maybe they've both read all of the chatter on here about needing more bullpen arms..

DaleJRFan
06-30-2005, 11:10 AM
My favorite moment from lastnight's game...

:DJ

"This isn't rocket surgery..."

ja1022
06-30-2005, 12:57 PM
My favorite moment from lastnight's game...

:DJ

"This isn't rocket surgery..."

...followed by silence, as I suspect they had to turn off their mikes to contain their laughter. Did you catch how Hawk came back with, "It's amazing how many hitters try and turn it into rocket science." DJ then added a reference to "brain science". I kind of like DJ. I think I read it here once; he's kind of an idiot, but he's our idiot.

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 01:05 PM
...followed by silence, as I suspect they had to turn off their mikes to contain their laughter. Did you catch how Hawk came back with, "It's amazing how many hitters try and turn it into rocket science." DJ then added a reference to "brain science". I kind of like DJ. I think I read it here once; he's kind of an idiot, but he's our idiot.

Every village needs their idiot? Nah I can't stand him.