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Fenway
06-25-2005, 04:59 PM
I am sure 99% of readers here have seen Field of Dreams and part of the story has Ray Kinsella and Terence Mann driving from Fenway Park to Chilsom, Minnesota to find "Moonlight" Graham.

Moonlight DID exist and this week marks the 100th anniversary of his one MLB game.

One thing always "bothered" me about the movie. In it Ray gets transported back to 1972 to meet "Doc" Graham when he actually died in 1965. Did they change the year simply to have the movie theater say "The Godfather"?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2094577&num=0

http://www.uslink.net/~0695vs/doc.GIFhttp://images1.moviemarket.co.uk/thumbnails/120thumbs/263138.jpgThose blue hats he bought for his wife, Alecia? "Absolutely true," Ponikvar said. And the way he patted children to clear food stuck in their throats? "He did it to me," she said.



Oh, another fact: His younger brother, Frank Porter Graham, was a U.S. senator from North Carolina.



In all, it's a story that fans everywhere embraced. Well, most everyone.



"I didn't see 'Field of Dreams.' I don't watch movies about what I do," San Francisco slugger Barry Bonds (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3918) said.

ilsox7
06-25-2005, 05:12 PM
I am sure 99% of readers here have seen Field of Dreams and part of the story has Ray Kinsella and Terence Mann driving from Fenway Park to Chilsom, Minnesota to find "Moonlight" Graham.

Moonlight DID exist and this week marks the 100th anniversary of his one MLB game.

One thing always "bothered" me about the movie. In it Ray gets transported back to 1972 to meet "Doc" Graham when he actually died in 1965. Did they change the year simply to have the movie theater say "The Godfather"?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2094577&num=0

http://www.uslink.net/%7E0695vs/doc.GIFhttp://images1.moviemarket.co.uk/thumbnails/120thumbs/263138.jpgThose blue hats he bought for his wife, Alecia? "Absolutely true," Ponikvar said. And the way he patted children to clear food stuck in their throats? "He did it to me," she said.



Oh, another fact: His younger brother, Frank Porter Graham, was a U.S. senator from North Carolina.



In all, it's a story that fans everywhere embraced. Well, most everyone.



"I didn't see 'Field of Dreams.' I don't watch movies about what I do," San Francisco slugger Barry Bonds (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3918) said.

I am pretty sure they changed it b/c of that. I have the Anniversary DVD and if memory serves correct, the director wanted to be able to use The Godfather on the marquee.

StockdaleForVeep
06-25-2005, 05:23 PM
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"You saw it!"

TDog
06-26-2005, 02:32 AM
Moonlight Graham played about more than 15 years before his character in the movie is supposed to have played. The real Graham also came up in midseason and got in only one game before being sent down. W.P. Kinsella did his research, though.

A lot of things were changed in the movie. If that bothers you, read the book.

miker
06-27-2005, 12:55 PM
"I didn't see 'Field of Dreams.' I don't watch movies about what I do," San Francisco slugger Barry Bonds (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3918) said.

I wonder if Barry means movies about race-baiting, arrogant S.O.Bs?

EastCoastSoxFan
06-27-2005, 03:35 PM
I am sure 99% of readers here have seen Field of Dreams and part of the story has Ray Kinsella and Terence Mann driving from Fenway Park to Chilsom, Minnesota to find "Moonlight" Graham.

Moonlight DID exist and this week marks the 100th anniversary of his one MLB game.

One thing always "bothered" me about the movie. In it Ray gets transported back to 1972 to meet "Doc" Graham when he actually died in 1965. Did they change the year simply to have the movie theater say "The Godfather"?
The movie had Moonlight Graham playing his half inning at the end of the 1922 season, so they probably just wanted the setting to be an even 50 years later...

jackbrohamer
06-27-2005, 03:51 PM
A lot of things were changed in the movie. If that bothers you, read the book.

They also turned JD Salinger into the James Earl Jones character for the movie, I think to avoid getting sued.

gobears1987
06-27-2005, 04:26 PM
Great movie, and once again Barroids comes off as a jackass in that article. I wouldn't even say the movie is about baseball. It is one hell of a great movie with many great lines.

"Is this heaven?"
"No, it's Iowa."

Dick Allen
06-27-2005, 05:00 PM
Don't forget, the movie also made Shoeless Joe a right-handed hitter.

zach074
06-27-2005, 05:55 PM
Don't forget, the movie also made Shoeless Joe a right-handed hitter.
You sure pay alot of attention to little details. :D:

michned
06-27-2005, 09:19 PM
I wouldn't even say the movie is about baseball. It is one hell of a great movie with many great lines.

So, so true. Last summer, my brother-in-law was visiting us, and he is a 50-something grade school principal who, along with the rest of his siblings, were not raised on sports (something about being raised in the barren desert). He had never seen the movie, and I'm sure he wasn't looking forward to watching it, but he fell in love with it and said basically the same thing, that it's not about baseball, it's about family and what keeps us together and pulls us apart.

I remember when Costner was on Letterman when it was originally released, and when describing the movie, he told Dave it's the kind of movie that makes men cry because most guys can relate to the story.

jdm2662
06-28-2005, 08:14 AM
"Hey Dad? You want to have a catch?"

Probably the dumbest line in all of movies... Other than that, it was still a great movie.
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ilsox7
06-28-2005, 08:28 AM
"Hey Dad? You want to have a catch?"

Probably the dumbest line in all of movies... Other than that, it was still a great movie.

Why is it the dumbest line?

jdm2662
06-28-2005, 09:00 AM
You don't "have" a catch. You "play" catch... My cousin and I used to take shots at that line, and we kind of still do today...
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TommyJohn
06-28-2005, 09:15 AM
You don't "have" a catch. You "play" catch... My cousin and I used to take shots at that line, and we kind of still do today...

I heard on radio that it's a regional thing. In the midwest, you say "play catch"
but in the east you say "have a catch." It is like people in Chicago saying "I
have to wait in line" while a New Yorker would say "wait on line." Kevin
Costner's character was a midwesterner originally from New York, so I guess
you could say he still spoke east coast and get away with it.

ilsox7
06-28-2005, 09:21 AM
You don't "have" a catch. You "play" catch... My cousin and I used to take shots at that line, and we kind of still do today...

Not on the East coast. Out East, you have a catch. Everywhere else, you play catch. They addressed this specifically in the Anniversary DVD. If I remember correctly, Costner wanted the line out, but they explained to him how it's said out East. And everyone I have encountered think it's the single greatest moment in the movie.

jdm2662
06-28-2005, 01:17 PM
Costner wanted the line out, but they explained to him how it's said out East.

My cousin and I always said that. When Costner read the script, his reaction was probably "What's a catch???"
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DaleJRFan
06-28-2005, 01:19 PM
I wonder if Barry means movies about race-baiting, arrogant S.O.Bs?

Was Barry Bonds even in Field of Dreams? What a crock....

SSN721
06-28-2005, 02:24 PM
Not on the East coast. Out East, you have a catch. Everywhere else, you play catch. They addressed this specifically in the Anniversary DVD. If I remember correctly, Costner wanted the line out, but they explained to him how it's said out East. And everyone I have encountered think it's the single greatest moment in the movie.

I agree, I always have to call my father after watching that scene. It is very touching. Any person who cant appreciate that scene despite whether or not you have a problem with the line must be void of human emotion. I would put that in teal but I am pretty much serious. How can anyone who has a family they care about at all not feel the tugging at the heart strings in that scene? ALmost makes me want to call my father now just to see how he is doing. :D:

mike squires
06-28-2005, 02:40 PM
I just got the book at the lib a few days ago. I've got the anniversarry DVD as well. IT's one of those movies (along with Hoosiers and Stand By Me ) that I have to watch at least twice a year.

slobes
06-30-2005, 09:58 AM
"Hey Dad? You want to have a catch?"

Probably the dumbest line in all of movies... Other than that, it was still a great movie.

Haha i totally agree. It's one of my favorite movies, but I sometimes turn off the movie with ten seconds remaining just so I don't hear that line

ilsox7
06-30-2005, 10:00 AM
Haha i totally agree. It's one of my favorite movies, but I sometimes turn off the movie with ten seconds remaining just so I don't hear that line

:thud:

LuvSox
06-30-2005, 10:09 AM
You don't "have" a catch. You "play" catch... My cousin and I used to take shots at that line, and we kind of still do today...

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