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Shammy Hater
06-19-2005, 08:45 PM
grab your wastebasket now.

Cubbiesuck13
06-19-2005, 09:21 PM
I am tired of that jackass making money off of me and everyone else in the service. I want a cut!

mccoydp
06-19-2005, 10:29 PM
I am tired of that jackass making money off of me and everyone else in the service. I want a cut!

As you send me some, too.:D:

Cubbiesuck13
06-19-2005, 11:19 PM
As you send me some, too.:D:

No prob. Check is in the mail.

I am guessing Navy. Also I am guessing officer.


Edit: I just checked your profile. Looks like I am right.

Irishsox1
06-20-2005, 12:13 AM
Country music sucks! Anytime I hear country music I ad lib the lyrics about sleeping with your cousin....or lying threw my tooth....or eating racoon.

34rancher
06-20-2005, 12:25 AM
I am tired of that jackass making money off of me and everyone else in the service. I want a cut!
While I would agree with you on just about everyone else, he actually does a lot of benefit shows on bases and donates a lot to military families. And while at times he can be a jerk, (heck, can't we all?) he was one of the first, if not the first, to go over to Iraq and see the troops.

fquaye149
06-20-2005, 01:20 AM
While I would agree with you on just about everyone else, he actually does a lot of benefit shows on bases and donates a lot to military families. And while at times he can be a jerk, (heck, can't we all?) he was one of the first, if not the first, to go over to Iraq and see the troops.

with all due respect to our servicemen who may or not be offended by toby's songs about the military, and to the people who disagree with his right-wing hawk politics(one of whom i might happen to be), I feel Toby is one of the greatest songwriters of the past 10 years.

Should Have Been a Cowboy, Wish I Didn't Know Now What I Didn't Know Then, and How Do You Like Me Now are just great pieces of music. I'm a huge admirer of his work and I wish people wouldn't summarily dismiss his entire genre because of a few choice media blow ups taken out of context (the whole "we'll put a boot in your ass" controversy)

TheOldRoman
06-20-2005, 01:20 AM
Country music sucks! Anytime I hear country music I ad lib the lyrics about sleeping with your cousin....or lying threw my tooth....or eating racoon.
Remain silent and let people think your IQ is below 80.
Speak up and remove all doubt.

TheOldRoman
06-20-2005, 01:24 AM
with all due respect to our servicemen who may or not be offended by toby's songs about the military, and to the people who disagree with his right-wing hawk politics(one of whom i might happen to be), I feel Toby is one of the greatest songwriters of the past 10 years.

Should Have Been a Cowboy, Wish I Didn't Know Now What I Didn't Know Then, and How Do You Like Me Now are just great pieces of music. I'm a huge admirer of his work and I wish people wouldn't summarily dismiss his entire genre because of a few choice media blow ups taken out of context (the whole "we'll put a boot in your ass" controversy)
I agree. Country music is unique because a huge number of people ignorantly hate it without ever actually listening to it. Mostly these people are the ones tuned into Kiss FM listening to Chingy, Jessica Simpson, and whatever else they are told to. One day they say "Oh my god, Dishwalla is like the best band ever." The next they make fun of people who like them. Toby Keith is a great song writer, and has an incredible voice. I went to see him last night, even though I had to sell tickets I had to the Sox game. Maybe I like country because Im not intelligent enough to make up lyrics about sleeping with family members.

Cubbiesuck13
06-20-2005, 01:45 AM
While I would agree with you on just about everyone else, he actually does a lot of benefit shows on bases and donates a lot to military families. And while at times he can be a jerk, (heck, can't we all?) he was one of the first, if not the first, to go over to Iraq and see the troops.

Well I know that he is somewhat active in supporting the military but I don't know just how much. He pretty much has to be due to most of his recent songs being about the military. It seems like he is taking advantage of the times like no one else. It just seems like exploitation to me because he has said things against being over there. He just isn't that genuine to me that is all.

The Dude
06-20-2005, 01:49 AM
with all due respect to our servicemen who may or not be offended by toby's songs about the military, and to the people who disagree with his right-wing hawk politics(one of whom i might happen to be), I feel Toby is one of the greatest songwriters of the past 10 years.

Should Have Been a Cowboy, Wish I Didn't Know Now What I Didn't Know Then, and How Do You Like Me Now are just great pieces of music. I'm a huge admirer of his work and I wish people wouldn't summarily dismiss his entire genre because of a few choice media blow ups taken out of context (the whole "we'll put a boot in your ass" controversy)

Actually Toby Keith is a registered Democrat. FYI

TheOldRoman
06-20-2005, 02:39 AM
Well I know that he is somewhat active in supporting the military but I don't know just how much. He pretty much has to be due to most of his recent songs being about the military. It seems like he is taking advantage of the times like no one else. It just seems like exploitation to me because he has said things against being over there. He just isn't that genuine to me that is all.
1) I have never heard him say anything against being over there.
2) You may only hear of his patriotic songs, but the huge majority of his songs (and the huge majority of his hits) have nothing to do with it. In fact, only 3 of his songs ever have dealt with USA/war. Uh oh, I fear this thread is headed to the Roadhouse. Hopefully we can salvage it by keeping political opinions out of it.

Cubbiesuck13
06-20-2005, 02:47 AM
1) I have never heard him say anything against being over there.
2) You may only hear of his patriotic songs, but the huge majority of his songs (and the huge majority of his hits) have nothing to do with it. In fact, only 3 of his songs ever have dealt with USA/war. Uh oh, I fear this thread is headed to the Roadhouse. Hopefully we can salvage it by keeping political opinions out of it.

No politics in it for me. I just don't enjoy being exploited. If my oppinion of him is off then I guess I miss out.

TheOldRoman
06-20-2005, 03:13 AM
No politics in it for me. I just don't enjoy being exploited. If my oppinion of him is off then I guess I miss out.
I respect that, and I thank you for being brave and doing what so few can. I hope to run into you at a Sox game in the future and buy you a beer.:cheers:

Cubbiesuck13
06-20-2005, 03:23 AM
I respect that, and I thank you for being brave and doing what so few can. I hope to run into you at a Sox game in the future and buy you a beer.:cheers:

Thanks, but all that brave stuff should be for the Marines and Army that are on the ground. I am just on a boat, but I have never turned down a beer yet. I am going to try and be in Chicago for the Sept. 17 weekend against the Twins so I may hold you to it.:gulp:

irish rover
06-20-2005, 04:15 AM
didn't he have a song not too long ago with a line that said "my dad was a sox and I'm a sox fan too" ? or something similar

TomC727
06-20-2005, 01:22 PM
Actually Toby Keith is a registered Democrat. FYI

Thank You for the clarification. Most people think he is a hardcore right winger. when I told a couple of people that once, they thought I was full of crap.

I went and saw him Saturday. I am a huge fan of his and I just recently started listening to country the past couple years. The music seems more down to earth.

fquaye149
06-20-2005, 02:07 PM
Thank You for the clarification. Most people think he is a hardcore right winger. when I told a couple of people that once, they thought I was full of crap.

I went and saw him Saturday. I am a huge fan of his and I just recently started listening to country the past couple years. The music seems more down to earth.

I honestly believe he is a timeless songwriter. Among country musicians, the last 10 years has really brought forth three talents that I think go among the greatest pop songwriters of all time - alan jackson, garth brooks, and, yes, toby keith. I won't name names, because that would just be hard to swallow for most people, but if you give some of his non-soldier songs a chance, you'll really see they're go down easy pop rock that's quite smart and sophisticated.


edit: i take it back - brooks doesn't write that many of his songs. But what a performer!

PatK
06-20-2005, 02:47 PM
I'm supposed to be listening to Jessica Simpson?

Foulke You
06-20-2005, 03:40 PM
I agree. Country music is unique because a huge number of people ignorantly hate it without ever actually listening to it. Mostly these people are the ones tuned into Kiss FM listening to Chingy, Jessica Simpson, and whatever else they are told to. One day they say "Oh my god, Dishwalla is like the best band ever." The next they make fun of people who like them. Toby Keith is a great song writer, and has an incredible voice. I went to see him last night, even though I had to sell tickets I had to the Sox game. Maybe I like country because Im not intelligent enough to make up lyrics about sleeping with family members.
Count me amogst the ones who GENUINELY hate it.:cool: I have friends that love it and have been forced to listen to it for years and I compare it to nails scratching across a chalkboard. I don't make fun of my friends for liking it, however, if I hear a steel guitar and a twangy country voice and I tend to get an urge to run for the exits.:D: It's just not my cup of tea at all. I'm more of a metal fan (Megadeth, Anthrax, Metallica, Disturbed, Pantera, etc.)

SOXSINCE'70
06-20-2005, 05:34 PM
They didn't show Nancy Faust playing "God Bless America"
for this yahoo?? Come on.The least you could do is show the
flag and GBA during the 7th inning stretch.:angry:

mccoydp
06-20-2005, 05:56 PM
No prob. Check is in the mail.

I am guessing Navy. Also I am guessing officer.


Edit: I just checked your profile. Looks like I am right.

Army, actually; you were pretty close!

soxwon
06-20-2005, 07:18 PM
didn't he have a song not too long ago with a line that said "my dad was a sox and I'm a sox fan too" ? or something similar

you are correct, but he did local versions.
in the original he said "he was a braves fan"
ive heard versions with "cards-astros-and even CUBS"
they are different in whatever city, you hear it from.

Cubbiesuck13
06-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Army, actually; you were pretty close!

Army, wow. I didn't know they made Army in Hampton Roads heh heh. Where are you stationed?

elrod
06-21-2005, 02:49 AM
I love country music but I much prefer the more traditional variety. I can listen to Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, George Jones, Melba Montgomery and Hank Snow over and over again. I also really like the "insurgent country" scene right here in Chicago on Bloodshot Records. The Waco Brothers put on one of the best acts you'll ever see. Neko Case is a real goddess. And the Sadies are the best country-punk-garage-surf band I've ever heard. I really don't care for the modern over-produced Nashville junk. I can't honestly say I've given Toby Keith much of a listen and I was quite turned off by his political songs (though I wonder if they were partially tongue in cheek the way Okie from Muskogee was). Anyway, country music is not for "ignorant" people at all. Some of the sharpest social commentary comes from country musicians. Take a listen to Merle Haggard's "Irma Jackson", written in the early 1960s about interracial marriage. People remember Merle for "Working Man", "Fighting Side of Me" and, of course, "Okie" but that was only a part of a much larger repetoire. Country music certainly draws on a large "redneck" base, but that is far from the only source of love for country.

elrod
06-21-2005, 02:53 AM
I honestly believe he is a timeless songwriter. Among country musicians, the last 10 years has really brought forth three talents that I think go among the greatest pop songwriters of all time - alan jackson, garth brooks, and, yes, toby keith. I won't name names, because that would just be hard to swallow for most people, but if you give some of his non-soldier songs a chance, you'll really see they're go down easy pop rock that's quite smart and sophisticated.


edit: i take it back - brooks doesn't write that many of his songs. But what a performer!

Have you ever given any of the stuff on Chicago's own Bloodshot Records a listen? Whenever I talk to people who like mainstream country music I always try to steer them to Neko Case and some of the more "alternative" forms of country music. It's ALL singer-songwriter stuff, with great guitar work. BTW, Robbie Fulks is easily the best country songwriter in the last 20 years. His voice is a bit nasally but his lyrics are far and away the cleverest in country music - and probably any genre. Give them a listen and see what you think! :cool:

Falstaff
06-21-2005, 03:14 AM
Count me amogst the ones who GENUINELY hate it.:cool: I have friends that love it and have been forced to listen to it for years and I compare it to nails scratching across a chalkboard. I don't make fun of my friends for liking it, however, if I hear a steel guitar and a twangy country voice and I tend to get an urge to run for the exits.:D: It's just not my cup of tea at all. I'm more of a metal fan (Megadeth, Anthrax, Metallica, Disturbed, Pantera, etc.)
Ya brother- I'm down with that tho my Dad blasts the hick music in his dump truck, I am into the hard heavy stuff, especially Frozen Concentrate with Gogord Gram lately... GOGO WHITE SOX

kittle545feet
06-21-2005, 05:10 AM
Actually Toby Keith is a registered Democrat. FYII am registered a socialist too but you'll never see me voting for them!

kittle545feet
06-21-2005, 05:16 AM
I love country music but I much prefer the more traditional variety. I can listen to Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, George Jones, Melba Montgomery and Hank Snow over and over again. I also really like the "insurgent country" scene right here in Chicago on Bloodshot Records. The Waco Brothers put on one of the best acts you'll ever see. Neko Case is a real goddess. And the Sadies are the best country-punk-garage-surf band I've ever heard. I really don't care for the modern over-produced Nashville junk. I can't honestly say I've given Toby Keith much of a listen and I was quite turned off by his political songs (though I wonder if they were partially tongue in cheek the way Okie from Muskogee was). Anyway, country music is not for "ignorant" people at all. Some of the sharpest social commentary comes from country musicians. Take a listen to Merle Haggard's "Irma Jackson", written in the early 1960s about interracial marriage. People remember Merle for "Working Man", "Fighting Side of Me" and, of course, "Okie" but that was only a part of a much larger repetoire. Country music certainly draws on a large "redneck" base, but that is far from the only source of love for country.I didn't think there were many left. Ha ha! I have loved Merle and country music for well over 25 years and thank God for satellite radiio and Tv so I don't have to listen to the over produced garbage they call country music today.

Cubbiesuck13
06-21-2005, 05:27 AM
I didn't think there were many left. Ha ha! I have loved Merle and country music for well over 25 years and thank God for satellite radiio and Tv so I don't have to listen to the over produced garbage they call country music today.

You got that right. I have never heard John Prine on the radio until I bought my XM.

fquaye149
06-21-2005, 09:13 AM
Have you ever given any of the stuff on Chicago's own Bloodshot Records a listen? Whenever I talk to people who like mainstream country music I always try to steer them to Neko Case and some of the more "alternative" forms of country music. It's ALL singer-songwriter stuff, with great guitar work. BTW, Robbie Fulks is easily the best country songwriter in the last 20 years. His voice is a bit nasally but his lyrics are far and away the cleverest in country music - and probably any genre. Give them a listen and see what you think! :cool:

i don't much care for neko case's solo stuff, but the new pornographers are fine.

of course i listen to George Jones, Hank Sr., Merle, Willie, and Cash. But I still prefer Toby to all of them.

He wants to talk about "me"

elrod
06-21-2005, 10:17 AM
i don't much care for neko case's solo stuff, but the new pornographers are fine.

of course i listen to George Jones, Hank Sr., Merle, Willie, and Cash. But I still prefer Toby to all of them.

He wants to talk about "me"

New Pornographers are great, though they aren't exactly country. My wife can't stand Neko's voice. Oh well. I love Emmylou Harris too, of course. Ever listen to Robbie Fulks?

elrod
06-21-2005, 10:19 AM
You got that right. I have never heard John Prine on the radio until I bought my XM.
John Prine grew up in Maywood, IL. "Paradise" is one of my favorite songs of all time.