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1908
06-14-2005, 01:43 PM
I didn't think the cubs would even think about it but it's all over the media today.


The NY Post, ESPN Radio, and XM Radio are all reporting that the Cubs may be close to a deal that would put Gary Sheffield in a Cubs' uniform. Rumors are swirling around as to whom the Cubs would give the Yankees in return and how much of Sheffield’s contract the Cubs would be responsible for. Although nothing is for certain, Corey Patterson or Jason Dubois have been mentioned as possibly being involved as well as Cubs pitcher Sergio Mitre. This morning on the MLB Homeplate program on XM radio, Larry Bowa, and Buck Martinez went so as far as to say that the Yankees and the Cubs were working on a deal that would send Gary Sheffield to Chicago. They mentioned none of the other players in the deal, but they expected it to go down within the week. That is a pretty bold statement and it would be a pretty interesting to see what Sheffield could do in a Cubs' uniform.

jackbrohamer
06-14-2005, 02:12 PM
How many total jerks can they fit on one Cubs team?

samram
06-14-2005, 02:14 PM
Well, maybe they just don't feel comfortable without a roids case on the roster.

MRKARNO
06-14-2005, 03:08 PM
Why the heck would this be a good deal for the Yankees? Wasn't George looking for more prototypical corner outfielders, not fewer? Unless Kerry Wood is involved, I don't see this as being realistic and I think the Cubs front-office is still too attached to him to let him go. This just seems like NY Media BS to me.

daveeym
06-14-2005, 03:12 PM
Why the heck would this be a good deal for the Yankees? Wasn't George looking for more prototypical corner outfielders, not fewer? Unless Kerry Wood is involved, I don't see this as being realistic and I think the Cubs front-office is still too attached to him to let him go. This just seems like NY Media BS to me. The yanks white-flagging it?:?:

SOXPHILE
06-14-2005, 03:17 PM
Oh, just wait until Cub-Dumb gets a hold of this rumor. Last year, I remember they were all so sure that the Cubs would trade for Randy Johnson, for the peanut vendor on the 3rd base side, and maybe a stack of cups in the concession stand. Every single year, it seems like there's a couple of big names out there, and these moron fans (and media) seem to think the Cubs are going to get them, and give up almost nothing in return. ("Hey, the Cubs should "go get" Randy Johnson/Gary Sheffield/Carlos Beltran etc.) As if all the other major league teams' sole reason for existence is to help out the Cubs, and that they in fact, owe it to the Cubs, to aid them in their quest to win the World Series.

Rocklive99
06-14-2005, 03:18 PM
If this happens before next weekend, we may be able to get some creative steroid chants thought up, it would be sad to see Patterson go though, I guess Sheffield would have to pick up the slack with the Ks and ball that just goes off the tip of his glove

Flight #24
06-14-2005, 03:18 PM
The yanks white-flagging it?:?:

Unlikely. The 2005 FA class isn't a great one, so I don't see them retooling by trading guys like Sheff. More likely they'd do something like the Vazquez deal and trade a decent but underperforming guy for a high-salaried vet. Maybe something like Pavano/Wright + cash for Zito. They can eat the cost of their mistakes by sending cash along, but actually lessen their expense base because IIRC cash sent in trades doesn't count against the luxury tax.

MRKARNO
06-14-2005, 03:20 PM
The yanks white-flagging it?:?:

It's one thing to trade away a star player for top prospects. It's another to trade that player away for mediocre major leaguers with low ceilings or high-ceiling/low-result guys like Patterson. None of the players mentioned really are worth trading one of the best outfielders in baseball.

Rocklive99
06-14-2005, 03:20 PM
Why the heck would this be a good deal for the Yankees? Wasn't George looking for more prototypical corner outfielders, not fewer? Unless Kerry Wood is involved, I don't see this as being realistic and I think the Cubs front-office is still too attached to him to let him go. This just seems like NY Media BS to me.

Well it kind of makes sense, they want to go young, and can't decide on a CF, but that would be a big void in RF. Their big issue is the pen and iffy SP that isn't living up to the $$$, but yeah, probably another case of the NY media fabricating something and everyone else running with it for attention

infohawk
06-14-2005, 03:22 PM
Well, at least there's already a street named after Sheffield right outside the park.

The Sox will have to trade for Scott Shields just to keep up! :tongue:

MRKARNO
06-14-2005, 03:22 PM
Well it kind of makes sense, they want to go young, and can't decide on a CF, but that would be a big void in RF.

If I was looking for young outfielders with a lot of promise, I wouldn't be looking towards the Cubs major league outfield.

1908
06-14-2005, 03:37 PM
The Yankees had better get more than Patterson, or Dubois. Patterson can't handle cubs fans booing him, what's he gonna do when the Yankee fans rip him to shreds?

The Yankees probably would want someone like Rich Hill before Sergio Mitre. The cubs will need to up the ante if I'm the Yankees.

cheeses_h_rice
06-14-2005, 03:42 PM
Corey Patterson would get eaten up by the NY media.

DickAllen72
06-14-2005, 04:16 PM
Well, at least there's already a street named after Sheffield right outside the park.

The Sox will have to trade for Scott Shields just to keep up! :tongue:

That's good! :smile:

Rocklive99
06-14-2005, 04:47 PM
If I was looking for young outfielders with a lot of promise, I wouldn't be looking towards the Cubs major league outfield.

Well the choices in center of Womack and Bernie Williams are bad, and about them going to the Flubs for help, I don't know, it's obvious Hendry sold his soul or has explicit pics of every major league GM

Fenway
06-14-2005, 04:51 PM
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mrfourni
06-14-2005, 04:53 PM
I think the Tribune company needs to stop reading WSI and get their rumors elsewhere.


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-blogcurrent,1,1990381.htmlstory?coll=cs-home-headlines

Unregistered
06-14-2005, 05:07 PM
From the "Source," the NYPost
Should the Yankees wait for age or contract issues to bite them on Gary Sheffield? What would the Cubs surrender for him, for example?

THIS is how this rumor got started? Some editorial that clearly uses the Cubs as an EXAMPLE?? Sheesh, the media is just PATHETIC.

Nothing to see here, move along...

http://www.nypost.com/sports/48209.htm

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06-14-2005, 05:09 PM
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Stryder2929
HAHAHA! Oh my god!:rolling:
I had more respect for Yankees fans before I read this. Many of them are hoping that they get Carrie Woods in return. How little they know. Of course, being a Yankee fan, one would have no real reason to not believe the media hype. I almost hope that trade does happen. The Yankees need another overpaid, underproducing whiny frail pitcher with a bad attitude.

Another Yankees fan called Patterson and Dubose "top level talent".:rolling:

Fenway
06-14-2005, 05:11 PM
From the "Source," the NYPost


THIS is how this rumor got started? Some editorial that clearly uses the Cubs as an EXAMPLE?? Sheesh, the media is just PATHETIC.

Nothing to see here, move along...

http://www.nypost.com/sports/48209.htm

The NY Post is never wrong

:cool:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:nAKmmkxdFO4J:www.bakedziti.net/images/truman.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bakedziti.net/images/truman.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bakedziti.net/2004_07_01_&h=302&w=319&sz=57&tbnid=nAKmmkxdFO4J:&tbnh=106&tbnw=113&hl=en&start=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2Byork%2Bpost%26start%3D120%26hl% 3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)

samram
06-14-2005, 05:13 PM
From the "Source," the NYPost


THIS is how this rumor got started? Some editorial that clearly uses the Cubs as an EXAMPLE?? Sheesh, the media is just PATHETIC.

Nothing to see here, move along...

http://www.nypost.com/sports/48209.htm

Same thing happened with that Preston Wilson rumor. A guy says he would fit on the Sox, suddenly it's a done deal. I used to love reading rumor mills, but now that I can see how they start, it's really not worth the time.

Unregistered
06-14-2005, 05:17 PM
The NY Post is never wrong

:cool:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:nAKmmkxdFO4J:www.bakedziti.net/images/truman.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bakedziti.net/images/truman.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bakedziti.net/2004_07_01_&h=302&w=319&sz=57&tbnid=nAKmmkxdFO4J:&tbnh=106&tbnw=113&hl=en&start=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2Byork%2Bpost%26start%3D120%26hl% 3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)"Wrong" about what? This is my point: that wasn't a "report," hell that wasn't even NEWS! It was some editorial with some guy saying HYPOTHETICALLY "What do you think we'd get for Sheffield, from say... the Cubs for example?"

The guy could've named 15 other teams that would make more sense in a trade, he just happened to name the Cubs and that sends the baseball world on its axis. The more you look at what the Cubs could give a team like the Yankees, the less it makes sense - but far be it from the Hot Stove idiots let that stand in the way of reporting a trade rumor... :rolleyes:

Fenway
06-14-2005, 05:21 PM
"Wrong" about what? This is my point: that wasn't a "report," hell that wasn't even NEWS! It was some editorial with some guy saying HYPOTHETICALLY "What do you think we'd get for Sheffield, from say... the Cubs for example?"

The guy could've named 15 other teams that would make more sense in a trade, he just happened to name the Cubs and that sends the baseball world on its axis. The more you look at what the Cubs could give a team like the Yankees, the less it makes sense - but far be it from the Hot Stove idiots let that stand in the way of reporting a trade rumor... :rolleyes:

But now switch to boardroom somewhere in The Bronx
http://www.berrysmediahut.com/seinfeld/images/steinbrenner.jpg

GEORGE You see the Post?

It's Brian sir.

Good Good now do it!!

Unregistered
06-14-2005, 05:26 PM
But now switch to boardroom somewhere in The Bronx
http://www.berrysmediahut.com/seinfeld/images/steinbrenner.jpg

GEORGE You see the Post?

It's Brian sir.

Good Good now do it!!Haha, that I could actually see. Steinbrenner is losing his mind with how poorly his team is playing. Good times. :D:

Flight #24
06-14-2005, 05:32 PM
Haha, that I could actually see. Steinbrenner is losing his mind with how poorly his team is playing. Good times. :D:

Screw that, we'll send over Felix Diaz & Joe Borchard for Sheff + cash!!! George, just look at those 2004 AAA stats on Diaz, and We all know Joe's got light-tower power!!!

Almost as likely as Who-bois and Who'she-tre.

WhiteSoxFan84
06-14-2005, 11:14 PM
lol, i'd LOVE to see this happen.

i WANT it to happen.

the yankees aren't scoring any runs because all they have is bashers in their lineup.

the cubs are full of bashers and no lead-off men. what are they picking up? another basher.

corey patterson would HAVE to be involved and if he is, i would like this deal for the yankees. this guy has speed, power, defense, he would have a shot to become a stud in NY.

sheffield would handicap the cubs, finanicially, and their bullpen would still suck.

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Foulke You
06-15-2005, 01:14 AM
If it happens, this trade would scream of the Yanks just trying to shake things up a bit and the Cubs trying to make a big splash by getting a big name. I honestly don't know if it would do anything to help either club. You would think the Cubs would be on the market for a speedy table setter rather than another power guy. It will be interesting to keep an eye on this and see if there is any credence to the rumors.

Banix12
06-15-2005, 02:58 AM
I think if he gets traded again Sheffield will retire soon. He was talking about hanging it up this offseason because he has had too many injury problems. He's struggling with injuries again and chicago would be his 7th organization.

Iguana775
06-15-2005, 10:01 AM
got this from a Cubs fan on a Hawkeye board if that tells you anything...

This one has some teeth, or so I've heard ...

Gary Sheffield to the Cubs for Patterson, Dubois, and a pitcher

Rumor has it that the Yankees are considering conceeding this season soon, and start getting younger players in trades. They'd love to get rid of Giambi, but there are no takers. However, a few other older players are also being mentioned now ... Hideki Matsui, Bernie Williams, Tony Womack, and Gary Sheffield.


I just dont see the Yankees fire selling.

infohawk
06-15-2005, 10:12 AM
There's already a thread on this subject. Enjoy!!!

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=52052

Iguana775
06-15-2005, 10:13 AM
Damn, guess I need to pay attention. lol

Iguana775
06-15-2005, 10:15 AM
Oh, just wait until Cub-Dumb gets a hold of this rumor. Last year, I remember they were all so sure that the Cubs would trade for Randy Johnson, for the peanut vendor on the 3rd base side, and maybe a stack of cups in the concession stand. Every single year, it seems like there's a couple of big names out there, and these moron fans (and media) seem to think the Cubs are going to get them, and give up almost nothing in return. ("Hey, the Cubs should "go get" Randy Johnson/Gary Sheffield/Carlos Beltran etc.) As if all the other major league teams' sole reason for existence is to help out the Cubs, and that they in fact, owe it to the Cubs, to aid them in their quest to win the World Series.


That would really be something with Beltran on the Mets. lol.

whitesoxfan
06-15-2005, 10:43 AM
Sheffield can't be any worse then Patterson or Dubois. But IMO, its way too early to give up on Mitre. They'd definitely be shooting themselves in the foot if they gave him up when he's only 24 and has shown a lot of potential in his last 2 starts.