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Randar68
06-07-2005, 10:50 AM
Here it is, draft starts in less than an hour. One of my favorite events of the year.

Sox looking at Jeff Clement and several pitchers, who knows where they'll go?

Sox pick 15th in the first round and don't have any supplemental picks this year or second rounder (El Duque).

draft starts at 11:30 am CDT, and can be followed live on MLB.com audio and/or video...

Randar68
06-07-2005, 11:01 AM
30 minutes and counting.

Carillo, Bogusevic, or Broadway??? get out your magic 8-ball...

Fungo
06-07-2005, 11:16 AM
30 minutes and counting.

Carillo, Bogusevic, or Broadway??? get out your magic 8-ball...

How about none, & Tulowitzki falls to us at 15

Randar68
06-07-2005, 11:42 AM
How about none, & Tulowitzki falls to us at 15

That's my dream scenario, but it's a long shot. He could fall out of the top 10, but it would be a miracle if he falls to us at #15 (and the Sox take him, LOL)

SoxSpeed22
06-07-2005, 11:58 AM
Sox looking at Jeff Clement and several pitchers, who knows where they'll go?

Sox pick 15th in the first round and don't have any supplemental picks this year or second rounder (El Duque).

draft starts at 11:30 am CDT, and can be followed live on MLB.com audio and/or video...Kenny said Catcher was one of the weak spots of the farm system so Clement should be a good pick. Cesar Carillo of Miami and Brian Bogusevic from Tulane are alternates.
:fobbgod:"Scouts, Schmouts!"

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:00 PM
Kenny said Catcher was one of the weak spots of the farm system so Clement should be a good pick. Cesar Carillo of Miami and Brian Bogusevic from Tulane are alternates.

Clement makes Piazza look like Johnny Bench...

Taylor Teagarden is a better (pure catching) prospect and I would would be surprised if:
1) Clement is there at #15
2) The Sox don't take a catcher in the 3-5 rounds
3) Sox don't take a pitcher at #15 (unless Tulowitzki somehow manages to fall to them)

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:00 PM
High noon fellas, here we go.

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:01 PM
Are yall watching the mlb.com coverage of the draft?

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:07 PM
Upton goes #1

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:07 PM
First 5 picks in the draft are:

1) D'backs: Justin Upton, as expected.
2) KC: Alex Gordon, 3B Nebraska
3) Mariners: Jeff Clement C USC (Tulowitzki may fall now)
4) Nationals: Ryan Zimmerman 3B Virginia
5) Brewers: Ryan Braun 3B Miami

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:09 PM
Royals take Nebraska 3rd baseman.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:09 PM
Clement off he board to Seattle

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:09 PM
Clement to Seattle

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:11 PM
Hey guys, we don't need a post for every pick. comment if you'd like, but I'll be posting them in groups of 5 as they go.

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:11 PM
3 third baseman already, braun is off the board

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:12 PM
Hey guys, we don't need a post for every pick. comment if you'd like, but I'll be posting them in groups of 5 as they go.

my bad

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:12 PM
6) Jays: Ricardo Romero RHP UCSF
7) Rockies: Troy Tulowitzki SS UCLB
8) Tamps Bay: Wade Townsend RHP (as expected)
9) Mets: Mike Pelfrey RHP Witchita State
10) Tigers: Cameron Maybin OF North Carolina high schooler

No prob, Antone, otherwise it just turns into a cluster****

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 12:13 PM
Clement to Seattle

Why would they do that? They have Olivo...

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:14 PM
3 third baseman already, braun is off the board

Many baseball circles say that if our first rounder from last year, Josh Fields would have been in this years draft, he wouldn't have even been a first rounder.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:15 PM
BA dead on with their first 10 picks

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:15 PM
#15 is coming up quick...

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:16 PM
11) Pirates: Andrew McCutchen OF Florida HS
12) Reds: Jay Bruce of Texas HS
13) Orioles: Brandon Snyder C Virginia HS (SS-C prospect) REACH!
14) Indians: Trevor Crowe CF U of Arizona another slight Reach
15) WHITE SOX: Lance Broadway RHP TCU

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:16 PM
From Ft. Meade, hmm played against them in football. Thats pretty cool.

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:18 PM
comon lucky number 15!

shaunburnette
06-07-2005, 12:19 PM
cant ever have too much pitching


Lance Broadway = Cy Young

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:20 PM
Not the biggest fan of this pick, although he's really risen in many eyes.

Best college curveball?

AntoneSmith2
06-07-2005, 12:20 PM
put him in the rotation

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 12:21 PM
Mediocre pick. I wish they had gone with Carrillo instead.

The Padres just snagged him..

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:21 PM
your newest member of the Chicago White Sox (if he signs)...

http://gofrogs.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/broadway_lance00.html

Iguana775
06-07-2005, 12:21 PM
What's the scouting report on Broadway?

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:21 PM
16) Marlins: Chris Volstad RHP - Florida HS
17) Yankees: CJ Henry SS - OK HS
18) Padres: Cesar Carillo RHP - Miami
19) Rangers: John Mayberry RF - Stanford (average OF tools but gold glove potential at 1st, Rangers asked for him to be listed as RF)
20) Cubs: Mark Pawelek, lhp, Springville (Utah) HS

BA dead on through 18

duke of dorwood
06-07-2005, 12:23 PM
Not the biggest fan of this pick, although he's really risen in many eyes.

Best college curveball?

Thats what they said-what were these "Big Games" he has reccently pitched well in?

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:23 PM
What's the scouting report on Broadway?

8. LANCE BROADWAY, rhp (National rank: 48)
School: Texas Christian.
Hometown: Grand Prairie, Texas.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 195. Birthdate: Aug. 20, 1983.
Previously Drafted: Never.
Scouting Report: Broadway spent the first two years of his college career at Dallas Baptist, where he spun a pair of no-hitters and was part of two National Christian College Athletic Association championship teams. He transferred to Texas Christian after earning top-prospect honors in the Northwoods League last summer, and has put together a superlative season. Broadway was tied for the NCAA Division I lead in wins (12) and ranked among the leaders in ERA (1.94), strikeouts (125) and strikeouts per nine innings (12.1). He succeeds more with polish than overwhelming stuff. His fastball is just average, but he has a plus curveball that he can locate in and out of the strike zone. His delivery and command are solid, and his makeup is a huge asset. He's developing a changeup and is gaining more confidence in the pitch. He has a strong, lean frame and there may be a little more velocity in him. The statistics-oriented Red Sox are believed to be targeting Broadway with one of their three supplemental first-round picks.

shaunburnette
06-07-2005, 12:24 PM
LANCE BROADWAY



There are ways to impress the scouts before the draft and then there are ways to Really impress the scouts. TCU right hander Lance Broadway is far down the Really, Really path.



Broadway, who transferred from NAIA Dallas Baptist to the resurgent Texas Christian program (37-18 final regular season record) between his sophomore and junior seasons, has been lights out all year. He ranks among the NCAA leaders in most major statistical categories and is 13-1, 1.76 with 135 strikeouts in 102 innings. Incredibly, Broadway has only allowed 12 extra base hits all year.



But Friday, May 20, facing #1 ranked Tulane, Broadway turned in his best performance of the year when many college hurlers are beginning to wear down after a long season. Broadway turned in a complete game 4-hit shutout, walking only 1 hitter and striking out 10.

http://www.perfectgame.org/2005/stories/draft_prospect_watch/images/lance_broadway.jpg

In his two previous starts, Broadway pitched 16 innings, allowing 9 hits and 1 run while striking out 23 in two victories.



Broadway doesn't have the pure power stuff that some of the pitchers projected to go at the top of the draft have (Luke Hochevar, Mark McCormick, Mike Pelfrey, Craig Hansen). He pitches in the upper 80's and low 90's with an excellent curveball, good change up and precise command. Very few accounts that we are familiar with have Broadway projected as a first round selection on June 7, although he factors in as a solid compensation 1st round pick.



Our feeling is that as teams get closer and closer to the draft, they tend to get more and more conservative. And when they look at Broadway they are going to see a proven winning pitcher (Broadway is a combined 28-4 pitching for Dallas Baptist, in the Northwoods League and this year since 1/04) with big league stuff who can pitch at a high level quickly. When they factor in how Broadway has pitched late in the season, it's going to become very tempting to pop him a bit early.



Interestingly, the then 6-4, 175 lb Broadway (he's filled out to 195 lbs) was comparatively overlooked out of high school as well despite pitching in the Dallas Metroplex. He had leg muscle problems the summer before his senior year, then contracted mono during his senior season. Perfect Game saw him throw a number of times in high school and saw the potential and projectability but wished we'd had the opportunity to see him more frequently and more healthy.



2002 Perfect Game World Showcase (1/02): Broadway is extremely interesting. Great projectable body, loose arm that is touching 90 in the middle of winter. Not to mention we even like his big league name! Broadway was hurt last time he was at one of the PG events, so we didn't get a good read on him. That changed in Ft Myers, we now know he is for real and projects in a big way. He is athletic and has that MLB look.



2002 Perfect Game Pre-Draft Showcase (5/02): Broadway headed into this event after recently losing 15-20 pounds to mono. Although he was not full strength, he showed plenty of muscle on a plus athletic frame to pitch at 84-86 mph velocity consistently. We've seen him at 90 mph before and we believe it will not be long before he's back to his normal weight and strength again. His curve and change were both sitting around 74 mph and both were potential MLB average or better pitches. He showed good arm action and he was able to keep his ball low in the zone.



It's fun to see nice young men like Lance Broadway come on strong as highest level prospects. It was a different path than most, but the results are what counts.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Thats what they said-what were these "Big Games" he has reccently pitched well in?

He dominated Tulane, Southern Mississippi and Stanford in successive starts, allowing one run while striking out 26 in 24 innings

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Thats what they said-what were these "Big Games" he has reccently pitched well in?Southern Miss, shutout #1 Tulane and 1ER against Stanford in the regionals

knocko94
06-07-2005, 12:25 PM
Cubs take Pawelek, HS pitcher with Boras as his agent

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:26 PM
21) Athletics: Cliff Pennington, ss, Texas A&M
22) Marlins: Aaron Thompson, lhp, Second Baptist HS, Houston
23) Red Sox: Jacoby Ellsbury OF - Oregon State
24) Astros: Brian Bogusevic LHP - Tulane
25) Twinkies: Matt Garza RHP - Fresno State

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:28 PM
26) Red Sox: Craig Hansen, rhp, St. John's U.
27) Braves: Joe Devine RHP - NCSU
28) Cards: Colby Rasmus, of, Russell County HS, Phenix City, Ala.
29) Marlins: Jacob Marceaux RHP - McNeese State
30) Cards: Tyler Greene SS - Ga Tech.

Where's the FOBB crying about taking college closers in the first round? Didn't Billy's disciple just take one?

BA had all but 7 of the first rounders pegged and all of the first 18 picks... amazing.

Hochevar, Buck, McCormick all still there. Talent-rich supplemental round upcoming.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:37 PM
Supplemental round:

31. Diamondbacks:
32. Rockies:
33. Indians:
34. Marlins:
35. Padres:
36. Athletics:
37. Angels:
38. Astros:
39. Twins:
40. Dodgers:
41. Braves:
42. Red Sox:
43. Cardinals:
44. Marlins:
45. Red Sox:
46. Cardinals:
47. Red Sox:
48. Orioles:

ssidebeatdown
06-07-2005, 12:37 PM
how long between rounds?

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 12:39 PM
Doesn't Broadway kind of strike you as the kind of player the Sox usually don't take in the first round. College right hander, good control, mediocre radar gun readings....Change in philosophy possibly?

tacosalbarojas
06-07-2005, 12:41 PM
Good luck, LB - like the one report says you've got to love the big league name of Broadway.. Just stay healthy! I don't want to see another Stumm, Honel, Malone.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:42 PM
Doesn't Broadway kind of strike you as the kind of player the Sox usually don't take in the first round. College right hander, good control, mediocre radar gun readings....Change in philosophy possibly?

Conservative pick, IMO. I don't know, we'll have to see. He's one of the most MLB-ready starters in the draft. Change in early-round pitching-draft-philosophy perhaps, yeah.

He's going to be measured against Bogusevic and Carillo his whole career.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:44 PM
Good luck, LB - like the one report says you've got to love the big league name of Broadway.. Just stay healthy! I don't want to see another Stumm, Honel, Malone.

Do you realize Corwin Malone was a later round pick (9th round out of Alabama HS)?

tacosalbarojas
06-07-2005, 12:45 PM
Do you realize Corwin Malone was a later round pick?Yes, very much so. Just started listing prospects with arm troubles/surgeries.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:45 PM
how long between rounds?
15 mins. should start any minute.

I'll be able to keep up through the supplemental round, but if someone wants to take over for a while, have at it.

patbooyah
06-07-2005, 12:46 PM
can anyone tell me how boras clients are doing?

would love it if the whole league was ignoring his guys.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:47 PM
Yes, very much so. Just started listing prospects with arm troubles/surgeries.

You could make a list longer than the Magna Carta if you want to look at every organization...

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 12:50 PM
You could make a list longer than the Magna Carta if you want to look at every organization...

Half of it would be the White Sox 2001 staff and minor league system....

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:50 PM
can anyone tell me how boras clients are doing?

would love it if the whole league was ignoring his guys.

A couple of guys have been selected so far, but Luke Hochevar probably is kicking himself, although he'll probably get picked in the supplemental round.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:50 PM
can anyone tell me how boras clients are doing?

would love it if the whole league was ignoring his guys.

Several have slid, a few have been taken.

Pelfrey taken by Mets, Volstad taken by Mrlins, Pawalek taken by the Cubs.

Hochevar, McCormick, others have not been taken.

tacosalbarojas
06-07-2005, 12:51 PM
You could make a list longer than the Magna Carta if you want to look at every organization...True dat. I just want Broadway to stay healthy...that's it, and then let all the other chips fall where they may in his career. I'd just hate to see another Stumm situation where the guy just falls off the map because he blows out his arm. Maybe the lower velocity and such will help reduce those chances.

kj.hayes
06-07-2005, 12:53 PM
15th pick in the first round. His bio is here: http://gofrogs.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/broadway_lance00.html

ChiWhiteSox1337
06-07-2005, 12:55 PM
He's actually a RHP...:D:

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:55 PM
True dat. I just want Broadway to stay healthy...that's it, and then let all the other chips fall where they may in his career. I'd just hate to see another Stumm situation where the guy just falls off the map because he blows out his arm. Maybe the lower velocity and such will help reduce those chances.

He has pretty good mechanics, better mechanics and build than Carillo. You never can tell. Rauch had great mechanics and look what happenned. It's a roll of the dice no matter what.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:56 PM
Sox next pick is at number 95.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 12:58 PM
Look for the Twins to select Jordan Schafer, LHP Winter Haven HS, FL with one of their extra picks. His family lives down the block from a twins scout.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 12:59 PM
31. Diamondbacks: Matt Torra, rhp, U. of Massachusetts
32. Rockies: Chaz Roe RHP - Lafayette HS (KY)
33. Indians: John Drennen OF - Rancho Bernardo HS (CA)
34. Marlins: Ryan Tucker RHP - Temple City HS (CA)
35. Padres: Cesar Ramos, lhp, Long Beach State U. (Drafting all the Cesars?)
36. Athletics: Travis Buck, of, Arizona State U.
37. Angels: Trevor Bell RHP - Cal. HS
38. Astros: Eli Iorg OF - U of Tennessee
39. Twins: Henry Sanchez 1B - Mission Bay HS (CA)
40. Dodgers: Luke Hochevar RHP - U of Tennessee
41. Braves: Bo Jones LHP - Louisiana HS
42. Red Sox: Clay Buckholtz RHP - Angelina (Texas) JC
43. Cardinals: Mark McCormick RHP - Baylor
44. Marlins: Sean West LHP - Captain Shreve HS (La)
45. Red Sox: Jed Lowrie 2B - Stanford
46. Cardinals: Tyler Herron RHP - Wellington Community HS (FL)
47. Red Sox: Michael Bowden RHP - Waubonsie Valley HS (IL) NOT TO THE CUBS! EXCELLENT!
48. Orioles: Garrett Olson LHP - Cal Poly

If people want to still follow along, someone else needs to start posting the picks, I'm done for a while. Be back for the 3rd round...

HawkISox
06-07-2005, 01:07 PM
Good stats....I wonder how ready he is. What type of pitcher is he?

Fungo
06-07-2005, 01:14 PM
MLB.com has a nice draft tracker for those interested in keeping up with every pick.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Anyone think the Sox may redraft Donald Veal if he's there in the 3rd round?

chaz171
06-07-2005, 01:20 PM
His numbers recently are stunning.... I still feel that he's two years out. Also that is when our Cuban Lads will be done.

DMarte708
06-07-2005, 01:22 PM
Just another soft tossing White Sox selection.

Which means he'll put up decent minor league numbers, be promoted to the big show, and be promptly dismantled by major league hitters.

Unless a minor league pitcher of ours has a great secondary pitcher (McCarthy, Gonzalez)--or three satisfactory pitches (Buehlre), I will never expect much out of them if their velocity fails to exceed 91mph.

StillMissOzzie
06-07-2005, 01:23 PM
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47. Red Sox: Michael Bowden RHP - Waubonsie Valley HS (IL) NOT TO THE CUBS! EXCELLENT!
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[uncle busting with pride]
THAT'S MY NEPHEW!!!
WAY TO GO, MIKE!!!
[/uncle busting with pride]


SMO
:gulp:

Fungo
06-07-2005, 01:24 PM
Anyone think the Sox may redraft Donald Veal if he's there in the 3rd round?
I was thinking that myself. Some good pitchers still out there...Zach Ward,RHP Gardner-Webb, Mike Billek, RHP Central Florida & Ryan Mullins, LHP Vanderbilt are a couple I like.

TaylorStSox
06-07-2005, 01:25 PM
Maybe a pick to use as trade bait for a team that wants somebody who's real close? Kind of like the Royce Ring pick.

CHISOXFAN13
06-07-2005, 01:25 PM
[uncle busting with pride]
THAT'S MY NEPHEW!!!
WAY TO GO, MIKE!!!
[/uncle busting with pride]


SMO
:gulp:


Congrats! He's obviously a huge reason why WV will be playing Friday in Geneva.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 01:26 PM
So much for Veal....to the Cubs of all teams

ilsox7
06-07-2005, 01:26 PM
Just another soft tossing White Sox selection.

Which means he'll put up decent minor league numbers, be promoted to the big show, and be promptly dismantled by major league hitters.

Unless a minor league pitcher of ours has a great secondary pitcher (McCarthy, Gonzalez)--or three satisfactory pitches (Buehlre), I will never expect much out of them if their velocity fails to exceed 91mph.

That Greg Maddux, he sure sucked!

Velocity is not everything. There are many pitchers who don't throw 93+ who are top of the line starters.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 01:30 PM
Just another soft tossing White Sox selection.

Which means he'll put up decent minor league numbers, be promoted to the big show, and be promptly dismantled by major league hitters.

Unless a minor league pitcher of ours has a great secondary pitcher (McCarthy, Gonzalez)--or three satisfactory pitches (Buehlre), I will never expect much out of them if their velocity fails to exceed 91mph.

You mean like Garland? Broadway has the best college curve and a plus change he's worked hard on. Why don't you settle down instead of being a jag.

California Sox
06-07-2005, 01:31 PM
That Greg Maddux, he sure sucked!

Velocity is not everything. There are many pitchers who don't throw 93+ who are top of the line starters.


Actually, when Maddux first came up I believe he threw pretty hard, about 93-94. He backed down as he got a little older for movement and command.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 01:31 PM
So much for Veal....to the Cubs of all teams
grrrrr... I never liked him anyways.... :D:

ilsox7
06-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Actually, when Maddux first came up I believe he threw pretty hard, about 93-94. He backed down as he got a little older for movement and command.

As far as I remember, from his Cub days, he never threw harder than about 91. He had the ability to throw harder if he wanted to, but would lose the movement which made him effective.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 01:40 PM
The radar gun is a terrible way to judge a pitcher.

shaunburnette
06-07-2005, 01:41 PM
do we get any extra picks? Jose? Maggs? some teams have 5 picks already and we have 1?

Mark
06-07-2005, 01:53 PM
...Broadway.

That's our first-round pick from today's draft. A pitcher from TCU who was 16-1 with a 1.62 ERA this season. Welcome aboard.

http://gofrogs.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/broadway_lance00.html

D. TODD
06-07-2005, 01:55 PM
do we get any extra picks? Jose? Maggs? some teams have 5 picks already and we have 1? No, because we did not offer them arbitration.

thepaulbowski
06-07-2005, 01:55 PM
The radar gun is a terrible way to judge a pitcher.


Just ask Rocker/Koch, etc...velocity isn't everthing.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 01:57 PM
Teagarden still on the board... (Bora$$)

I'll take Jeremy Bleich or Matt Green if they want to go pitching... LOL!

Fungo
06-07-2005, 01:59 PM
Tigers snag your catcher from Illinois Randar.

PicktoCLick72
06-07-2005, 02:00 PM
What's our next pick after 95?

Fungo
06-07-2005, 02:01 PM
What's our next pick after 95?
125

PicktoCLick72
06-07-2005, 02:04 PM
Richard Brooks from the now defunct state of East Carolina.

D. TODD
06-07-2005, 02:04 PM
...Broadway.

That's our first-round pick from today's draft. A pitcher from TCU who was 16-1 with a 1.62 ERA this season. Welcome aboard.

http://gofrogs.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/broadway_lance00.html Another song title ' My posse 's on....Broadway.

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 02:05 PM
If you were worried about Carrillo getting injured, check out how frickin' skinny our next pick is.

6'3" 165

Yikes!

California Sox
06-07-2005, 02:06 PM
Is this guy a reach in the third round? Seems like we've gone very signable.

CubsfansareDRUNK
06-07-2005, 02:07 PM
cool

Fungo
06-07-2005, 02:08 PM
If you were worried about Carrillo getting injured, check out how frickin' skinny our next pick is.

6'3" 165

Yikes!

Funny, I said the same thing to myself as soon as I saw is weight. Their media guide lists him at 180.

http://www.ecupirates.com/index.php?url_channel_id=-1&url_subchannel_id=&url_publish_channel_id=4693&well_id=2

lowesox
06-07-2005, 02:11 PM
In case you guys are interested there's a whole Draft thread in "Minor Observations."

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 02:16 PM
Funny, I said the same thing to myself as soon as I saw is weight. Their media guide lists him at 180.

http://www.ecupirates.com/index.php?url_channel_id=-1&url_subchannel_id=&url_publish_channel_id=4693&well_id=2

Looks like this is the second time we've drafted him as well. Guess he was quite the phenom in high school...

Fungo
06-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Look for the Twins to select Jordan Schafer, LHP Winter Haven HS, FL with one of their extra picks. His family lives down the block from a twins scout.

Schafer goes 107 overall to Atlanta.


Cubs stockpile arms and grab a guy I like in Mike Billek out of Central Florida.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Looks like this is the second time we've drafted him as well. Guess he was quite the phenom in high school...

He's a draft-eligible sophomore. Yes, I think it's a reach, especially with some very good talent still on the board. He likely could have been had in the 4th or 5th rounds instead... Not terribly thrilled, but they had a couple picks like this last year, namely Whisler and Liotta and they've done well so far...

Randar68
06-07-2005, 02:20 PM
Tigers snag your catcher from Illinois Randar.

Yep, and the Sox pass on Teagarden... grrrr. Get a pair and take some of these guys when you're saving money on a signable 1st rounder and no other pick until #95...

JackParkman
06-07-2005, 02:21 PM
The radar gun is a terrible way to judge a pitcher.

Colt Griffin begs to differ.:wink:

chaz171
06-07-2005, 02:22 PM
Oft Broken Crub pitcher,

Carrie Wood.

Wonder if Carrie's father is still coaching there? If so, I hope he used a pitch count on this guy we got!

yes it was his dear old dad that pitched him both complete games of a DH 4 days after he became Crub property...(178 pitches in one day)

Hangar18
06-07-2005, 02:29 PM
Colt Griffin begs to differ.:wink:

by the way, Cheers for having one of the funniest nicknames here :D:

DumpJerry
06-07-2005, 02:38 PM
Oft Broken Crub pitcher,

Carrie Wood.

Wonder if Carrie's father is still coaching there? If so, I hope he used a pitch count on this guy we got!

yes it was his dear old dad that pitched him both complete games of a DH 4 days after he became Crub property...(178 pitches in one day)
I thought I read somewhere that Kevin Walker was a high school teammate of Balsa Wood.

DaleJRFan
06-07-2005, 02:39 PM
I thought I read somewhere that Kevin Walker was a high school teammate of Balsa Wood.

Maybe that's why he can't seem to throw harder than 80.

CubsfansareDRUNK
06-07-2005, 02:40 PM
125 coming up guys

CubsfansareDRUNK
06-07-2005, 02:41 PM
Christopher Getz
2nd Base
U of Michigan

California Sox
06-07-2005, 02:44 PM
Man, we've certainly had a projection-free draft. Odd that we've had back-to-back selections of fairly high round guys that we couldn't sign out of high school.

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 02:46 PM
Christopher Getz
2nd Base
U of Michigan

LOL! This is the second time we've drafted this kid as well.

He's pretty damn good too.

Vsahajpal
06-07-2005, 02:47 PM
LOL! This is the second time we've drafted this kid as well.

He's pretty damn good too.

Yes he is:wink:

Fungo
06-07-2005, 02:48 PM
Christopher Getz
2nd Base
U of Michigan

http://www.mgoblue.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=2263&section_id=224&top=2&level=3&season=925

Flight #24
06-07-2005, 02:50 PM
listed four times by Baseball America on Big Ten 'best tools' list for 2005 including: best pure hitter, best strike-zone discipline, best base runner and best defensive second baseman

I like the sound of that. Especially since it also says he was considered a pretty good defender as well. Given that he's a college jr, could he possibly be targeted as Iguchi's replacement in 3 years?

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 02:57 PM
I really like this pick. This kid is slick in the field, makes solid contact, doesn't strike out, draws walks, and steals a ton of bases. His lack of power probably makes him somewhat unappealing.

Can you say grinder?

BigEdWalsh
06-07-2005, 03:03 PM
I really like this pick. This kid is slick in the field, makes solid contact, doesn't strike out, draws walks, and steals a ton of bases. His lack of power probably makes him somewhat unappealing.

Can you say grinder?

I like this pick too. Nice pick! :gulp:

PicktoCLick72
06-07-2005, 03:08 PM
Sorry for asking again but when is our next pick?

Fungo
06-07-2005, 03:09 PM
Sorry for asking again but when is our next pick?

155, then every 30 picks there after

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 03:09 PM
I like this pick too. Nice pick! :gulp:

To be fair, I do have a Big Ten bias. But this kid has looked really good the couple times I caught UM games on TV.

Mr. White Sox
06-07-2005, 03:11 PM
I'm somewhat surprised, after the talk of hoping Clement would slip, that we haven't taken a C yet.

TaylorStSox
06-07-2005, 03:17 PM
I'm somewhat surprised, after the talk of hoping Clement would slip, that we haven't taken a C yet.

The Sox draft philosophy is to take the best player available and not draft to position. I agree with it. Catchers are so hard to develop that alot of times it's easier to just buy one.


We have a pretty good C prospect in A ball right now anyway.

Mr. White Sox
06-07-2005, 03:19 PM
really? who is he? that's good to hear I suppose, given the loss of Olivo...well, we just took Ryan Rote from Vandy....anyone know about him?

Fungo
06-07-2005, 03:20 PM
5th round - Ryan Rote, RHP Vanderbilt

http://vucommodores.com/sports/baseball/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=140

Rote, the closer much of the last two years, has struggled with command and his mechanics out of the stretch, a difficult problem for a reliever. He's thrown more consistent strikes out of the windup, scouts say, harnessing his 94-95 mph fastball. Rote's secondary stuff is ordinary, however. His grandfather Tobin Rote played quarterback for Rice and later in the NFL for parts of 13 seasons, making two Pro Bowls .

Mr. White Sox
06-07-2005, 03:24 PM
that quote makes it seem like a meh pick, but I would trust the scouts/GM to look beyond that if they picked him here. They probably think they can add a change and a slider and make him a great closer; we'll see.

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 03:27 PM
that quote makes it seem like a meh pick, but I would trust the scouts/GM to look beyond that if they picked him here. They probably think they can add a change and a slider and make him a great closer; we'll see.

Yep. This is the typical White Sox draft pick, ala Danny Wright, Wyatt Allen, etc. Hopefully they will have better luck with this kid.

MisterB
06-07-2005, 03:29 PM
MLB.com's radio coverage will be talking to Lance Broadway between rounds.

Mr. White Sox
06-07-2005, 03:31 PM
this may have been talked about earlier, but Pawalek (Cubs) looks like a stud; I'm somewhat surprised the cubs were able to sign him already without a problem(Borass)...96m.p.h. fastball and a curve/slider/great changeup? Prior v.2? hopefully not.

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 03:36 PM
this may have been talked about earlier, but Pawalek (Cubs) looks like a stud; I'm somewhat surprised the cubs were able to sign him already without a problem(Borass)...96m.p.h. fastball and a curve/slider/great changeup? Prior v.2? hopefully not.

He's a high school kid, so it really doesn't matter what he looks like now.

Kogs35
06-07-2005, 03:37 PM
really? who is he? that's good to hear I suppose, given the loss of Olivo...well, we just took Ryan Rote from Vandy....anyone know about him?

donald lucy

Fungo
06-07-2005, 03:46 PM
6th round - Aaron Cunningham, LF Everett Community College

Cunningham, a freshman tore up the Northwest Athletic Association of Community Colleges, hitting .489-10-56, earning MVP honors and nearly winning the league’s triple crown. Exceptionally strong at 6 feet and 190 pounds, Cunningham hit a number of long wood-bat home runs with one of the purest swings in the Northwest. His other tools, mainly his speed and arm strength, are slightly above-average.

http://www.evcc.ctc.edu/template.cfm?doc_id=2070

Randar68
06-07-2005, 03:51 PM
donald lucy

Lucy finally played after spending the season up till yesterday on the DL. The real stud IMO is Fransisco Hernandez, a young Dominican, and who I believe the previous poster was referring to.

TaylorStSox
06-07-2005, 03:57 PM
Lucy finally played after spending the season up till yesterday on the DL. The real stud IMO is Fransisco Hernandez, a young Dominican, and who I believe the previous poster was referring to.


You're right Randar. He's struggling with the bat right now but he's shown flashes. He's only 19 and still growing so there's lots of room for improvement.

I think I remember you raving about him last year after you took your trip to catch some minor league games.

TaylorStSox
06-07-2005, 03:58 PM
this may have been talked about earlier, but Pawalek (Cubs) looks like a stud; I'm somewhat surprised the cubs were able to sign him already without a problem(Borass)...96m.p.h. fastball and a curve/slider/great changeup? Prior v.2? hopefully not.


Not even the draft day thread can escape from Cubs related posts. :redneck

Fungo
06-07-2005, 04:05 PM
7th round - Daniel Cortez, RHP Garey HS, California

Committed to San Diego State

maurice
06-07-2005, 04:08 PM
Some quotes from the official site (http://whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20050607&content_id=1079610&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws) . . .

Lancy Broadway:
You may not be able to find a bigger White Sox fan right now. Chicago has given me the opportunity to chase my dream and it does not get much better than this.

Duane Shaffer:
We are extremely happy to be able to select Lance in the first round. He has had a very successful collegiate career, as one can see based on his statistics, and has the pitchability and the makeup to be a good major-league pitcher.

BigEdWalsh
06-07-2005, 04:08 PM
7th round - Daniel Cortez, RHP Garey HS, California

Committed to San Diego State

He's a big kid (6'5") they envision as a power pitcher.

fuzzy_patters
06-07-2005, 04:14 PM
Broadway sounds like an interesting prospect. He is reported to throw in the low 90s with movement, and he features a good curve and change. He is also tall, thin, and right handed. That sounds an awful lot like Garland and McCarthy.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 04:17 PM
8th round - Clayton Richard, LHP U of Michigan

http://www.mgoblue.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=3169&section_id=224&top=2&level=3&season=925

LHP Clayton Richard (7) has limited baseball experience, coming to Michigan on a football scholarship and serving as a backup quarterback last fall. A highly regarded pitching prospect out of high school, he returned to baseball this spring as Michigan's co-closer. He's an athletic 6-foot-4, 225-pound southpaw with a low 90s fastball and a developing curveball. But he's also 22 and raw, and scouts don't like his arm action. He skipped spring football practice and has said he's going to give up football and wants to sign.

fuzzy_patters
06-07-2005, 04:18 PM
The Sox just selected Clayton Richard of U of Michigan and Lafayette, IN. I saw this kid play football and basketball in high school. He was a very smooth, powerful power forward and was obviously good at baseball. However, football is where he really excelled. He is big and had an absolute rocket for an arm on the football field. This kid is a very good athlete.

fuzzy_patters
06-07-2005, 04:23 PM
LHP Clayton Richard (7) has limited baseball experience, coming to Michigan on a football scholarship and serving as a backup quarterback last fall. A highly regarded pitching prospect out of high school, he returned to baseball this spring as Michigan's co-closer. He's an athletic 6-foot-4, 225-pound southpaw with a low 90s fastball and a developing curveball. But he's also 22 and raw, and scouts don't like his arm action. He skipped spring football practice and has said he's going to give up football and wants to sign.

That is worrisome. He had at least one knee injury in high school. If he has poor arm action, it could come from compensating for his past injuries. It sounds like he could be a risk for future injuries.

Of course, I am no doctor, and I have not played one on T.V.

rdivaldi
06-07-2005, 04:25 PM
Of course, I am no doctor, and I have not played one on T.V.

But you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

BigEdWalsh
06-07-2005, 04:29 PM
The Sox just selected Clayton Richard of U of Michigan and Lafayette, IN. I saw this kid play football and basketball in high school. He was a very smooth, powerful power forward and was obviously good at baseball. However, football is where he really excelled. He is big and had an absolute rocket for an arm on the football field. This kid is a very good athlete.

I guess! He was named 'Mr. Indiana' in football and baseball as a senior!! That's quite an accomplishment.

fuzzy_patters
06-07-2005, 04:30 PM
Sox selected Joseph Winn out of Delgado JC, LA. 6' 190 LBS. RHP

Perhaps we should call him "Early Junior" if he signs.

hollywood99
06-07-2005, 04:32 PM
8th round - Clayton Richard, LHP U of Michigan

http://www.mgoblue.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=3169&section_id=224&top=2&level=3&season=925

Maybe having a hometown hero in the White Sox organization will help balance things out here in Lafayette. This is a really big cubs town, so we need all the help we can get.

fuzzy_patters
06-07-2005, 04:32 PM
I guess! He was named 'Mr. Indiana' in football and baseball as a senior!! That's quite an accomplishment.

He is number 3 all time in Indiana for career passing yardage.

Fungo
06-07-2005, 04:33 PM
9th round - Joseph Winn, RHP Delgado Junior College

tadscout
06-07-2005, 04:35 PM
I know the Sox where scouting Jay Broughton from Tri-Central HS here in Central IN... He has signed w/ Ball State... Has a Fastball in low 90's ans pretty got CV... Pretty good mechanics... who knows where he'll fall since he's from a small 2A School (I'm an asstant at a 1A school in the same Conference...).

Fungo
06-07-2005, 04:40 PM
10th round - Chiqui Chirino, LHP U of Miami

http://hurricanesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/chirino_chiqui00.html

BigEdWalsh
06-07-2005, 04:48 PM
:D: 10th round - Chiqui Chirino, LHP U of Miami

http://hurricanesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/chirino_chiqui00.html

:bandance: And he can hit!:bandance:

TomParrish79
06-07-2005, 05:34 PM
does anyone mind giving an updated list of the guys the Sox have drafted so far today?

DiGiSyKo
06-07-2005, 05:42 PM
015 R/R RHP Lance Broadway 08.20.1983 (6'4"-190lbs) (4YR) Texas Christian U
095 R/R RHP Richard Brooks 07.18.1984 (6'2"-165lbs) (4YR) East Carolina U
125 L/R 2B Christopher Getz 08.30.1983 (6'0"-172lbs) (4YR) U Michigan
155 R/R RHP Ryan Rote 08.08.1982 (6'3"-205lbs) (4YR) Vanderbilt U
185 R/R LF Aaron Cunningham 04.24.1986 (5'11"-195lbs) (JR) Everett CC
215 R/R RHP Daniel Cortes 03.04.1987 (6'5"-205lbs) Garey HS
245 L/L LHP Clayton Richard 09.12.1983 (6'5"-225lbs) (4YR) U Michigan
275 R/R RHP Joseph Winn 09.01.1984 (6'0"-190lbs) (JR) Delgado Col
305 L/L LHP Israel Chirino 11.08.1983 (6'0"-200lbs) (4YR) U Miami
335 R/R RHP Jason Rice 05.13.1986 (5'10"-185lbs) (JR) Chaffey Col
365 L/L LHP Sheldon Catchot 07.04.1984 (6'0"-175lbs) (JR) Delgado Col
395 R/R 1B Yudelmis Hernandez 05.18.1987 (6'4"-205lbs) G Holmes Braddock SR HS
425 R/R RHP Derek Rodriguez 05.17.1983 (5'11"-175lbs) (4YR) UC Berkeley

ATXBMX
06-07-2005, 05:44 PM
does anyone mind giving an updated list of the guys the Sox have drafted so far today?

Draftcaster (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/draft/y2005/draftcaster.jsp)

soxfanreggie
06-07-2005, 05:44 PM
Well, it'd be nice if we played football, we'd have talented qb's and a darn good tight end in Frank (Garcia could probably play football as well), but I'm more worried about how they play baseball. It's good he's athletic and talented enough to be good, if not the best in multiple sports in high school, but I want someone who will focus on baseball.

Our top pick seems like a good kid, someone we can sign and not have to worry about hold-outs. If you look at a lot of our successful players, they haven't necessarily been the top picks. Borchard (top pick in 2000) hasn't done anything special as of late. Anderson seems ready to come up to the majors, most likely later on in the season. Honel (2001) has been injured. Hopefully, Broadway is different.

McCarthy was a stud pick in the 17th round and Buerhle was a draft and sign. They're the future of our organization pitching wise along with Garland. Hopefully Broadway becomes a Mark Buerhle type pitcher for us.

Randar68
06-07-2005, 05:50 PM
015 R/R RHP Lance Broadway 08.20.1983 (6'4"-190lbs) (4YR) Texas Christian U
095 R/R RHP Richard Brooks 07.18.1984 (6'2"-165lbs) (4YR) East Carolina U
125 L/R 2B Christopher Getz 08.30.1983 (6'0"-172lbs) (4YR) U Michigan
155 R/R RHP Ryan Rote 08.08.1982 (6'3"-205lbs) (4YR) Vanderbilt U
185 R/R LF Aaron Cunningham 04.24.1986 (5'11"-195lbs) (JR) Everett CC
215 R/R RHP Daniel Cortes 03.04.1987 (6'5"-205lbs) Garey HS
245 L/L LHP Clayton Richard 09.12.1983 (6'5"-225lbs) (4YR) U Michigan
275 R/R RHP Joseph Winn 09.01.1984 (6'0"-190lbs) (JR) Delgado Col
305 L/L LHP Israel Chirino 11.08.1983 (6'0"-200lbs) (4YR) U Miami
335 R/R RHP Jason Rice 05.13.1986 (5'10"-185lbs) (JR) Chaffey Col
365 L/L LHP Sheldon Catchot 07.04.1984 (6'0"-175lbs) (JR) Delgado Col
395 R/R 1B Yudelmis Hernandez 05.18.1987 (6'4"-205lbs) G Holmes Braddock SR HS
425 R/R RHP Derek Rodriguez 05.17.1983 (5'11"-175lbs) (4YR) UC Berkeley

I would like to note that several of these picks are not seniors or juniors. (4yr) simply means a 4-year college and (jr) means Junior/Community College.

For instance, Brooks was just a soph, Getz was just a Jr, Cunningham was a freshman, etc.

ChiSoxRowand
06-08-2005, 12:31 AM
The guy we drafted from Miami, Chiqui Chirino, is from the same high school as Gio Gonzalez.

Fungo
06-08-2005, 10:21 AM
1. Lance Broadway – RHP – Texas Christian University
3. Richard Brooks - RHP – East Carolina University
4. Christopher Getz - 2B/SS – University of Michigan
5. Ryan Rote - RHP – Vanderbilt
6. Aaron Cunningham – OF – Everett Community College (WA)
7. Daniel Cortes – RHP – Garey High School (CA)
8. Clayton Richard – LHP – University of Michigan
9. Joseph Winn – RHP – Delgado College (LA)
10. Israel Chirino – LHP – University of Miami
11. Jason Rice – RHP – Chaffey College (CA)
12. Sheldon Catchot – LHP – Delgado College (LA)
13. Yudelmis Hernandez – 1B – G Holmes Braddock High School (FL)
14. Derek Rodriguez – RHP – UNLV
15. Vernon (Vince) Carter – 3B – Sierra Vista High School (NV)
16. Alexander Woodson – LHP – Porterville College (CA)
17. Enrique Garcia – RHP – Potomac State (WV)
18. Timothy Sabo – RHP – Setan Hall University

Some of these guys are hard to find any info on, but here is what I was able to come up with, just the later round guys. The earlier round guys have been pretty much covered.

11. Jason Rice – RHP – Chaffey College (CA)

12. Sheldon Catchot – LHP – Delgado College (LA)
http://www.dcc.edu/athletics/baseballhtm/teamcume.htm

13. Yudelmis Hernandez, 1B, G Holmes Braddock SR HS (FL)

14. Derek Rodriguez U Nevada Las Vegas RHP R/R 6'1" 185
COMMENT: Medium-large frame. Lean, athletic build. Rounded shoulders. Loose, quick arm w/ extension out front. FB 90-91, four seam riding life up. Two seam FB sinks. 12-6 CB has depth. Fade and sink to circle change. Likes to compete. Wants the ball.

15. Christopher Carter Sierra Vista HS 3B R/R 6'4" 220
COMMENT: Extra-large frame. Lean, conditioned build. Similar to Jermaine Dye. Plus raw power w/ bat speed & extension through zone w/ loft. Launches balls out to all fields. Hard contact. Loose arm, plus when needed. Playable defense. Quiet, soft spoken. Has passion for game.

16. Alexander Woodson Porterville Col LHP L/L 6'1" 185
COMMENT: Medium frame. Athletic build. Definition through rounded shoulders. Loose w/ arm speed. Good extension out front. Downplane to FB mostly 87-88 w/ occasional late life, hits spots. CB has late, tight bite. Solid work ethic & durability. Fresh arm w/ room to improve.

17. Enrique Garcia – RHP – Potomac State (WV)

18. Timothy Sabo Seton Hall U RHP R/R 6'3" 205
COMMENT: Good pitchers body. Loose & athletic. Long legs, arms & fingers. Similar to Charles Nagy. Live, loose arm. Good downplane delivery. Long, biting, 11-5 CB. Potential out pitch when locates. Some feel for tumbling circle change. Quick balk move. Has arm, body & desire to succeed.

Randar68
06-08-2005, 12:48 PM
You're right Randar. He's struggling with the bat right now but he's shown flashes. He's only 19 and still growing so there's lots of room for improvement.

I think I remember you raving about him last year after you took your trip to catch some minor league games.

Yep, as one of the younger players in the league and playing catcher, he stood out like a man amung boys. I was blown away. Bristol to Kanny is a pretty big jump though.

Randar68
06-08-2005, 12:48 PM
7th round - Daniel Cortez, RHP Garey HS, California

Committed to San Diego State

Big kid with a very good arm. Going to be tough to sign. Cunningham may be as well the way he destroyed his JuCO league last year.

Randar68
06-08-2005, 12:50 PM
8th round - Clayton Richard, LHP U of Michigan

Kid was a top prospect out of high school, only came back to the mound recently. He's raw and is going to take more time than normal for a college pitcher, but he's excited and ready to start his pro baseball career and this is a good pick by the Sox. Top 2-3 round talent in the 8th round with no signability issues.

rdivaldi
06-08-2005, 04:19 PM
Baseball America's Organizational Report on the White Sox draft...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/2005draft/05orgs/whitesox.html


Requires a username and password....

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Fungo
06-08-2005, 04:30 PM
Requires a username and password....

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My bad, I deleted the post to avoid any confusion.

They go over Broadway a bit and note that the last college RHP we selected in the first round was Kip Wells.

Here is a small portion...


In recent drafts, the White Sox had concentrated on position players, especially stocking up on outfielders. They appear to have done well with lefthanded pitching in the 2004 draft, selecting Gio Gonzalez, Ray Liotta, Tyler Lumsden and Wes Whisler.

Broadway is represented by the firm of Reich, Katz and Landis. While the White Sox hope to sign him quickly, they will have to be careful in handling him this season. He worked 117 innings for TCU.

Before Broadway, TCU had never had a first-round pick. The highest had been infielder Fred Benavides, who went to Cincinnati in the second round of the 1987 draft.

CHI-LITES

• Shaffer admitted that catching was a priority for the Sox entering the draft but they had no chance to get Southern California’s Jeff Clement, who went third overall to the Mariners, and passed on Texas' Taylor Teagarden, who is represented by agent Scott Boras. The White Sox did not take a catcher in the first day of the draft.

• The White Sox added another college quarterback, picking Michigan's Clayton Richard. A backup for the Wolverines football team, he dominated as a lefthanded reliever on the baseball team. The Sox had previously selected Joe Borchard from Stanford and Josh Fields from Oklahoma State.

ChiSoxRowand
06-08-2005, 07:49 PM
Today in the Cubune they said Chirino (the kid from Miami) quit the team about a month ago because of a dispute with his coach.

faneidde
06-08-2005, 09:06 PM
He is number 3 all time in Indiana for career passing yardage.
Not that it really means all that much. The kid who is number 1, Schiff from Evansville Mater Dei, couldn't even play at Indiana St.

CLSoxFan
06-09-2005, 12:57 AM
Great pick for the Sox with #15. This kid is for real. All y'all will see...