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A. Cavatica
05-31-2005, 10:22 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20050531&content_id=1069579&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Konerko is third at first base, behind Tino Martinez and Kevin Millar. Yikes! All three suck!

Iguchi is not even in the top five at second. No surprise there, given who's voting. At least Brian Roberts is leading.

Pods is 11th in the outfield and should be higher. Dye is 15th and should be lower, tonight's game notwithstanding.

Frank is 5th at DH, which is about right, considering that he is 0-for-2 this season.

chisoxmike
05-31-2005, 10:23 PM
Fans should not be voting for the All-Star game.

SOXintheBURGH
05-31-2005, 10:35 PM
Fans should not be voting for the All-Star game.

Don't worry..

Next Year, as defending AL Champion manager:

:ozzie

"I make de line up."

chisoxmike
05-31-2005, 10:42 PM
Don't worry..

Next Year, as defending AL Champion manager:

:ozzie

"I make de line up."

The best part about that would be he would put the best players in the starting lineup, not just his own players unlike some people.

mike squires
05-31-2005, 10:50 PM
To be honest Iguchi is the only position player that I can imagine making the squad other than the players which is hard to believe considering we have the best record in all of baseball! Amazing...

chisoxmike
05-31-2005, 11:03 PM
The only guys on the Sox that should make the All-Star team TODAY are

-Iguchi
-Hermanson
-Garland
-Buerhle

MUsoxfan
05-31-2005, 11:14 PM
The only guys on the Sox that should make the All-Star team TODAY are

-Iguchi
-Hermanson
-Garland
-Buerhle

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_150122.jpg

"Umm....aren't you forgetting somebody?"

ChiWhiteSox1337
05-31-2005, 11:14 PM
EDIT: Sorry mods, didn't realize there was a thread posted about this already in Talking Baseball! :(:
Here they are. Only 4 sox players actually made the list. :whiner:It's a damn shame that junk like Bret Boone and Mark Bellhorn are beating out Tadahito Iguchi.

1st Base Player NameTeamTotal Votes 1. Martinez, T.Yankees347,501 2. Millar, K.Red Sox248,921 3. Konerko, P.White Sox234,608 4. Teixeira, M.Rangers169,803 5. Sexson, R.Mariners159,556

2nd Base Player NameTeamTotal Votes 1. Roberts, B.Orioles433,461 2. Soriano, A.Rangers432,011 3. Bellhorn, M.Red Sox204,337 4. Womack, T.Yankees175,496 5. Boone, B.Mariners108,350

Shortstop Player NameTeamTotal Votes 1. Tejada, M.Orioles504,499 2. Jeter, D.Yankees448,439 3. Renteria, E.Red Sox277,544 4. Guillen, C.Tigers97,705 5. Young, M.Rangers85,104

3rd Base Player NameTeamTotal Votes 1. Rodriguez, A.Yankees613,218 2. Mueller, B.Red Sox221,810 3. Beltre, A.Mariners161,040 4. Mora, M.Orioles150,861 5. Blalock, H.Rangers119,969

Catcher Player NameTeamTotal Votes 1. Varitek, J.Red Sox425,878 2. Rodriguez, I.Tigers365,533 3. Posada, J.Yankees262,384 4. Lopez, J.Orioles187,479 5. Mauer, J.Twins104,536

Designated Hitter Player NameTeamTotal Votes 1. Ortiz, D.Red Sox680,834 2. Giambi, J.Yankees197,114 3. Palmeiro, R.Orioles172,220 4. Young, D.Tigers148,158 5. Thomas, F.White Sox98,285

Outfield Player NameTeamTotal Votes 1. Ramirez, M.Red Sox553,959 2. Guerrero, V.Angels542,541 3. Suzuki, I.Mariners515,343 4. Damon, J.Red Sox415,882 5. Sheffield, G.Yankees377,511 6. Matsui, H.Yankees334,025 7. Hunter, T.Twins223,429 8. Sosa, S.Orioles220,691 9. Nixon, T.Red Sox206,143 10. Williams, B.Yankees178,825 11. Podsednik, S.White Sox130,961 12. Finley, S.Angels100,145 13. Anderson, G.Angels98,568 14. Jones, J.Twins85,644 15. Dye, J.White Sox75,340

Link to full article:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050531&content_id=1069357&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb#results

rwcescato
05-31-2005, 11:27 PM
EDIT: Sorry mods, didn't realize there was a thread posted about this already in Talking Baseball! :(:
Here they are. Only 4 sox players actually made the list. :whiner:It's a damn shame that junk like Bret Boone and Mark Bellhorn are beating out Tadahito Iguchi.



Link to full article:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050531&content_id=1069357&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb#results

We will get screwd. I am sure if they did not have the rule for 1 player in each team make it. That we would not have 1 all-star anyway. I would say it would be Burhle's turn to make it. Maybe if the whole country of Japan voted for Iguchi that we would have a shot. Who cares I just want to win a World Series.
GO YOU WHITE SOX !!!!
Rich:supernana:

ShoelessJoeS
06-01-2005, 12:43 AM
The only guys on the Sox that should make the All-Star team TODAY are

-Iguchi
-Hermanson
-Garland
-Buerhle

i think politte deserves to be there too, maybe even podzilla

MUsoxfan
06-01-2005, 01:02 AM
i think politte deserves to be there too, maybe even podzilla

Pods would never be an All-Star because outfielders are generally picked by power numbers. Pods doesn't have any. He's the offensive MVP of this team though

nasox
06-01-2005, 01:29 AM
Gooch will be a backup.

rowand33
06-01-2005, 01:29 AM
I'm absolutely shocked Iguchi is no where near the top.

Where's that huge Japan vote I expected?!

nasox
06-01-2005, 01:32 AM
If Garland has some strong starts till the game, he'll make it. he just can't pitch like he did the past two outings.

rowand33
06-01-2005, 01:35 AM
I think Garland, Buehrle, and Hermanson will all be in it.

NWSox
06-01-2005, 02:01 AM
The only guys on the Sox that should make the All-Star team TODAY are

-Iguchi
-Hermanson
-Garland
-Buerhle

This is the list I came up with before I saw your post. This Sox team is about pitching and it would be a shame if we didn't have at least three pitchers.

Mr. White Sox
06-01-2005, 02:41 AM
Wow...great subject; I just ranted about this in my AIM away message, but this is definitely a better place to do so :smile:...I'm glad I found these forums. A poster said that Iguchi is not in the top 5, and that's "No surprise, given who's voting." The thing is, aren't people in Japan voting too? I'd expect Iguchi to be in the top 5...he has better stats than Boone, Womack, and Bellhorn. Yeah, thank god Roberts is leading the balloting, but only by 1,500? eh... I'd love to see Hermanson on the All-Star team, but I don't know if he's logged enough IP to definitely make the team. If he keeps the workload up and gets a few more saves, he should be on it. The guys that I'd like to see on the team coincide with those lists previously mentioned. And how many people here think it's a shame that Mark Teixeira, arguably having the best season for an AL 1B thus far, is in 4th place behind Millar and T.Martinez?

Foulke You
06-01-2005, 02:54 AM
Remember guys, this is the White Sox. We always get hosed at All Star Game time. We could be undefeated and still have only 1 or 2 players tops in the Mid Summer Classic. Heck, we are the only host team not to have a player in the Home Run Derby in recent memory (2003). I'm sure, as per usual, 1 or 2 Sox players will get snubbed to make room for more Red Sox and Yankees players. I think the only 2 that will make the team will be Buehrle and Hermanson or Garland and Hermanson.

I'm hoping Francona will keep the team from becoming the NY Yankees as Torre was so fond of doing. At least we won't have to see Giambi's sorry ass start the all star game again.

TheOldRoman
06-01-2005, 03:12 AM
The best part about that would be he would put the best players in the starting lineup, not just his own players unlike some people.
No, the best part about that would be that in order for Ozzie to coach the AS team, the Sox would go to the WORLD SERIES IN 2005!:bandance: :bandance:

chaerulez
06-01-2005, 06:44 AM
Wow...great subject; I just ranted about this in my AIM away message, but this is definitely a better place to do so :smile:...I'm glad I found these forums. A poster said that Iguchi is not in the top 5, and that's "No surprise, given who's voting." The thing is, aren't people in Japan voting too? I'd expect Iguchi to be in the top 5...he has better stats than Boone, Womack, and Bellhorn. Yeah, thank god Roberts is leading the balloting, but only by 1,500? eh... I'd love to see Hermanson on the All-Star team, but I don't know if he's logged enough IP to definitely make the team. If he keeps the workload up and gets a few more saves, he should be on it. The guys that I'd like to see on the team coincide with those lists previously mentioned. And how many people here think it's a shame that Mark Teixeira, arguably having the best season for an AL 1B thus far, is in 4th place behind Millar and T.Martinez? Ewwww.

Yeah, Martinez at 1B is just confusing. I mean his little hot streak came and went, and that didn't make him the best 1B in the league. Teixeira is far more deserving. AJ also deserves at least a top 5 voting in the catchers, instead of Posada being there.

PAPChiSox729
06-01-2005, 06:55 AM
Really, Iguchi is the only position player that has put up All-Star numbers at the plate. Other than that, everyone else has done pretty mediocre. This is a team based around pitching. It wouldn't surprise me if 3 or 4 of our pitchers made the team.

mccoydp
06-01-2005, 07:47 AM
I'd love to see Hermanson on the All-Star team, but I don't know if he's logged enough IP to definitely make the team. If he keeps the workload up and gets a few more saves, he should be on it.

How many more IP does he need? Dominant is dominant, no matter how you slice it.

Compare Hermanson to BJ Ryan:

Hermanson: 21 IP, 12 H, 6 BB, 15 SO, 0.00 ERA, .85 WHIP.
BJ Ryan: 27 IP, 20 H, 9 BB, 41 SO, 1.33 ERA, 1.07 WHIP.

Ryan is doing a fabulous job this year, but Dustin ain't exactly chopped liver, either....only six fewer innings than Ryan.

harwar
06-01-2005, 08:38 AM
As long as the fans continue to get the vote for All Star starters the yankees and red sox fans will use the current system to stuff the ballot box and what we will have every year is the national league team against the yankee-red sox conglomerate.

pdimas
06-01-2005, 11:18 AM
Anyone else see this? We have to start voting!!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/05/31/bc.bba.alall.starvoting.ap/index.html

LVSoxFan
06-01-2005, 11:21 AM
What non-pitcher do we have that's All-Star material right now?

Maybe Iguchi, but that's about it.

When everyone's batting around .230... I'm not holding my breath.

Jurr
06-01-2005, 11:22 AM
Konerko's in third at 1st base and is CLOSE. make it happen, folks.

IlliniSox
06-01-2005, 11:23 AM
What non-pitcher do we have that's All-Star material right now?

Maybe Iguchi, but that's about it.

When everyone's batting around .230... I'm not holding my breath.

Any decent fan knows Soriano is a butcher with the glove (and will probably be playing left in two years). And fans will soon recognize that Iguchi is the more complete player. But there's too many big names to overcome.

doublem23
06-01-2005, 11:24 AM
Konerko's in third at 1st base and is CLOSE. make it happen, folks.

No, I'd rather the American League win so we get home field in October. :bandance:

Jurr
06-01-2005, 11:25 AM
Any decent fan knows Soriano is a butcher with the glove (and will probably be playing left in two years). And fans will soon recognize that Iguchi is the more complete player. But there's too many big names to overcome.
I don't think you've taken the Japanese constituency into account. He'll be there before it's over..guaranteed.

He gone
06-01-2005, 11:26 AM
Garland, Buerle, and Hermanson are our All-Stars.



The only position player that is worthy is Iguchi

http://img218.echo.cx/img218/9794/tad4ih.jpg

Palehose13
06-01-2005, 11:28 AM
Garland, Buerle, and Hermanson are our All-Stars.



The only position player that is worthy is Iguchi

http://img218.echo.cx/img218/9794/tad4ih.jpg

Yep

PaleHoseGeorge
06-01-2005, 11:29 AM
Konerko's in third at 1st base and is CLOSE. make it happen, folks.

Exhibit A for how stupid the average ASG voter is.
:rolleyes:

seanpmurphy
06-01-2005, 11:31 AM
I'm writing in Timo Perez, what a clutch performer!

Palehose13
06-01-2005, 11:35 AM
Exhibit A for how stupid the average ASG voter is.
:rolleyes:

Since we claim to be the most knowledgable fans in baseball, you would think that we would know that PK is not all star material. :dunno:

Jurr...I agree with you about Uribe (other post), but can't do it here.

DaleJRFan
06-01-2005, 11:38 AM
Konerko and Rowand will go based on their performance over the past two years. Remember that Esteban Loaiza went last year, based on his 2003 performance.

Garland and Buerhle are a lock. We'll have to wait and see about Hermanson. I hope he gets the call, but with the whole "closer by committee" crap, I doubt he has the same buzz around the league as the other stars on this team, ZERO earned run average or not.

Lip Man 1
06-01-2005, 11:42 AM
So the teams from the East lead in the popularity contest.....

and this is supposed to be news?

Who cares.....it's a meaningless comedy.

If it was 'one fan - one vote,' instead of 'one fan - up to 25 votes,' then I'd give it more creedence.

These are the facts, right now the Sox have five guys who have a chance to be selected by manager Terry Francona (a former Sox minor league manager by the way...)

Buehrle, Garland, Hermanson, Iguchi and A.J.

As Porky Pig said, 'that's all folks...'

Anyone expecting the Sox to have five or six All Stars despite their record is living in fantasy land. The days of the Sox doing that ended in the early 60's. They simply no longer have the type of national following that allows that to happen.

Besides what matters is how the team does in games that count. It didn't seem to be an issue in 2000 (3 All Stars), 1994 (3), 1993 (2) or 1983 (1) did it?

Stop concerning yourself over this farce.

Lip

Fenway
06-01-2005, 11:45 AM
Milar being #2 at 1b is a joke

The season that Roberts is having for Baltimore can not argue


Tejada should win at SS but won't, it will go to Jeter

Veritek as catcher? yup


Iguchi is being hurt simply because he has yet to play on the east coast

Ortiz is a lock.

But having all stars means nothing. Look at the Yankees og the late 90's. Never did well in the voting but just won.

samram
06-01-2005, 11:49 AM
Konerko and Rowand will go based on their performance over the past two years. Remember that Esteban Loaiza went last year, based on his 2003 performance.

Garland and Buerhle are a lock. We'll have to wait and see about Hermanson. I hope he gets the call, but with the whole "closer by committee" crap, I doubt he has the same buzz around the league as the other stars on this team, ZERO earned run average or not.

ARow has 17 RBI- he's not going. Konerko is hitting .235(?)- he's not going unless he gets really hot and gets the average up around .275 soon. Loaiza went because he was a Torre favorite.

If Hermanson keeps pitching as he has, he's going. People around the game know what he's been doing.

Iguchi has a chance and so does AJ as the third catcher, especially with Javy Lopez being injured, assuming Pudge and Varitek are the first two catchers.

Lip Man 1
06-01-2005, 11:52 AM
So the teams from the East lead in the popularity contest.....

and this is supposed to be news?

Who cares.....it's a meaningless comedy.

If it was 'one fan - one vote,' instead of 'one fan - up to 25 votes,' then I'd give it more creedence.

These are the facts, right now the Sox have five guys who have a chance to be selected by manager Terry Francona (a former Sox minor league manager by the way...)

Buehrle, Garland, Hermanson, Iguchi and A.J.

As Porky Pig said, 'that's all folks...'

Anyone expecting the Sox to have five or six All Stars despite their record is living in fantasy land. The days of the Sox doing that ended in the early 60's. They simply no longer have the type of national following that allows that to happen.

Besides what matters is how the team does in games that count. It didn't seem to be an issue in 2000 (3 All Stars), 1994 (3), 1993 (2) or 1983 (1) did it?

Stop concerning yourself over this farce.
Lip

StockdaleForVeep
06-02-2005, 03:05 PM
I think the question should be how many red sox are gonna be put on by the manager, unless he will be un-torre like and pick players based on actual skill and not buddies