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JoseCanseco6969
05-28-2005, 02:26 PM
according to many threads on the flubs site

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156388.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156391.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156377.1&ctx=0

santo=dorf
05-28-2005, 02:58 PM
It's just another classic Cubs case of fans refusing to let reality get in the way. It's similar to how they all started rumors about Huff and Baez being dealt to the Cubs after the Sosa trade. :rolleyes:

buehrle4cy05
05-28-2005, 03:05 PM
Of course this trade will happen! It just makes sense!

Jjav829
05-28-2005, 06:01 PM
according to many threads on the flubs site

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156388.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156391.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156377.1&ctx=0

Uhh, this isn't a rumor. It's just a bunch of Cubs fans wishing to trade for Adam Dunn. It's no different than the threads we've had here about Todd Helton, Aubrey Huff, etc.

Soxzilla
05-28-2005, 06:54 PM
Uhh, this isn't a rumor. It's just a bunch of Cubs fans wishing to trade for Adam Dunn. It's no different than the threads we've had here about Todd Helton, Aubrey Huff, etc.

WAIT A MINUTE! We're getting Todd Helton AND Aubrey Huff!

*runs onto the balcony and praises lord*

Brian26
05-28-2005, 07:36 PM
Ridiculous.

White Sox Josh
05-28-2005, 07:42 PM
according to many threads on the flubs site

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156388.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156391.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156377.1&ctx=0All i can do is laugh. Why the hell are they going to that after they already started the firesale today. Stupid Cubs Fans.

JB98
05-28-2005, 10:08 PM
LOL. Just what the Cubs need: Another slugger who can fly out to the warning track with the wind blowing in. I wonder if the Cubs fans even realize what their weaknesses are. They have plenty of power. Their biggest problem is they are operating under the idiotic assumption that Patterson will morph into Lou Brock. That team has no leadoff hitter whatsoever. Neifi Perez hitting leadoff? ROTFLMAO

I think the Reds are fixin' to have a firesale of their own, but Adam Dunn is one of the few they won't trade. Kearns and Randa are the most likely to be sent packing, and Casey might be on the move too if he ever stops GIDPs.

fquaye149
05-28-2005, 10:27 PM
Their biggest problem is they are operating under the idiotic assumption that Patterson will morph into Lou Brock.

even if he does, they'll just trade him for, say, some pitcher who morphed into ernie broglio

Clembasbal
05-29-2005, 08:23 AM
I like how some guy says that they traded for "young guality pitching." Though I believe the guys they got from the Giants are not bad, they are not great by any means. It was a crap for crap trade. Jerome Williams had 1 1/2 good years. He is no longer a prospect...more like a medicore player. And David Aardsma could have been good, but he was drafted as their next closer, couldn't cut it and now is being stretched out into a starter in AA. He is also a flyball pitcher (for the most part), which is not good in Wrigley.

Then these idiot Cub fans are talking about how they got great pitchers for LaToya. The Giants would not give up great pitchers for him, they aren't stupid. Then to talk about trading them for Dunn...fools, plain old fools.

Clembasbal
05-29-2005, 08:53 AM
I just did my own independent research (I am up this darn early and bored because I have the WORST Hangover of my life! - and I have been drunk a ton of times)

Anyway, I came up with a possible reason for these trade rumors.

Some idiot Cub fan must have seen this on the internet

"Hey, I have a trade proposal for dunn. how bout dunn to the cubs for juan cruz and angel guzman?" Posted on the Reds fan site a number of years ago.

The Cub fan, if he really is a true Cub fan, probably doesn't realize than Juan Cruz has not been on the Cubs since 2003.

Jurr
05-29-2005, 12:08 PM
I just did my own independent research (I am up this darn early and bored because I have the WORST Hangover of my life! - and I have been drunk a ton of times)

Anyway, I came up with a possible reason for these trade rumors.

Some idiot Cub fan must have seen this on the internet

Posted on the Reds fan site a number of years ago.

The Cub fan, if he really is a true Cub fan, probably doesn't realize than Juan Cruz has not been on the Cubs since 2003.

No, see...the definition of a TRUE Cub fan is that they DON'T know who's on their team.

Chicago83
05-29-2005, 02:16 PM
This makes sense, as the Reds are selling and have much outfield depth, while the cubs are desperate for anything. Dunn belongs with that team with his 195 K's last year, he'll fit right in with Patterson and Burnitz.

Clembasbal
05-29-2005, 08:08 PM
No, see...the definition of a TRUE Cub fan is that they DON'T know who's on their team.

Ummmm...that's what I said.

That if the guy is really a TRUE Cub fan that he doesn't realize that Juan Cruz has NOT been on the team since 2003.

Geezzzzzzz.

:gulp:

chaerulez
05-29-2005, 10:20 PM
according to many threads on the flubs site

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156388.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156391.1&ctx=0

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-cubs&msg=156377.1&ctx=0

This is just a bunch of fans talking on message boards, not a legit source. It's not going to happen.

DrCrawdad
05-29-2005, 10:35 PM
I like how some guy says that they traded for "young guality pitching." Though I believe the guys they got from the Giants are not bad, they are not great by any means. It was a crap for crap trade...

Then these idiot Cub fans are talking about how they got great pitchers for LaToya. The Giants would not give up great pitchers for him, they aren't stupid. Then to talk about trading them for Dunn...fools, plain old fools.

Here is Baseball America's take on the trade:

Williams, 23, was ranked as the Giants No. 1 prospect in 2001-02, but has struggled this season while recovering from elbow surgery that limited him to just 22 games last season. While he broke camp in the big leagues, he was sent down to Triple-A Fresno after going 0-2, 6.48 in four games for the Giants. Things have gotten even worse for him in the Pacific Coast League, as he's gone 1-4, 9.39 in his first six starts for the Grizzlies, allowing 47 hits in 31 innings while walking more (17) than he has struck out (15). When healthy, Williams commands a low-90s fastball that he uses to set up a very good changeup. He has yet to find a consistent third pitch however, with both his curveball and slider lacking the depth or command to be a consistent out pitch. Williams' conditioning also has come into question. A 1999 supplemental first-round pick out of a Honolulu high school, Williams has a career major league record of 17-14, 3.93 in 47 games. He's expected to report to Triple-A Iowa as he continues to attempt to refine his stuff.

Aardsma, 23, was the Giants' first-round pick in 2003 after serving as the closer for Rice's national championship squad that year. He reached the majors in 2004, but went 1-0, 6.75 in 11 games, allowing 20 hits and 10 walks in just 11 innings. Put in the rotation at Double-A Norwich this season in order to get him more innings and allow him to work on his secondary pitches, Aardsma has gone 6-2, 2.93 in nine games, allowing 44 hits over 46 innings while walking 13 and striking out 30. He has struggled with his mechanics over the last year, and his fastball is now more often in the low 90s as apposed to the 93-97 mph range he showed in college. His slider also has become inconsistent, dropping in terms of both velocity and bite. Aardsma likely will be returned to bullpen in the Cubs system, and could be used in the major leagues as early as this year to shore up a mediocre relief corps in Chicago.

I heard Steve Drone talk about the trade. He said both pitchers threw in the mid to high 90's. BA said low 90's.