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Viva Medias B's
05-17-2005, 12:09 AM
Was anyone near the big fight around Section 163 tonight? It drew the attention of nearly all the fans in the outfield, left and right fields. Also, there seem to be a few lesser skirmishes in right-center too.

GiveMeSox
05-17-2005, 12:12 AM
Was anyone near the big fight around Section 163 tonight? It drew the attention of nearly all the fans in the outfield, left and right fields. Also, there seem to be a few lesser skirmishes in right-center too.

I was in 102, I didn't see the fights in the bleachers but I saw the crowd get up and make noise as if there was a fight. Over in right there wasn't really a fight just a couple fans getting heckled and taking crap for dressing in the wrong attaire, texas and cubs. They got bood and yelled I think they both left arguing with everyone back and forth.

Sox of White
05-17-2005, 12:57 AM
It was nice to see so many people at the game tonight. Of course it was half-price mondays, so many of these people were not really what I would call fans. For instance, the guy sitting next to me. First of all, he came late, after the first half-inning. But, he redeemed himself when he seemed instantly involved in the game and asked how Texas scored and seemed excited to be there. I thought, "I like this guy." My opinion of this guy went down from there as the game went on.

Whenever anything bad happened for the sox he would reply with, "_____ sucks", filling in the name of whoever screwed up in the blank. Sometimes it was just ridiculous what he got mad about. But, I digress. My point is only that a real fan would continue to cheer on the team instead of putting them down. It was only the 3rd inning and he was exclaiming that the sox suxk because they were down by two runs. They still had a lot of time left, but apparently it was not enough for this guy.

This guy was from U of I, I believe and must have been in a frat, as he fit the stereotype very well. He was loudmouthed, and hung onto his stupid cell phone the whole game, while pretending to know everything about everything.

He also lost a lot of credit when he began talking about the scrubs. Maybe he is one of those "Chicago" fans. I can dig being a chicago fan, I am one myself. But, when it comes to baseball you have to pick, come on.

Basically, I just do not like how people call themselves fans and then put down their own team. That is not what a fan is in my book. That is a scrub fan in my book.

Unregistered
05-17-2005, 01:05 AM
HomeFish ruins yet another fan's ballpark experience... :D:

chisoxfanatic
05-17-2005, 01:12 AM
I was at the game tonight as well (Section 149) and looked over to the bleachers at about the 7th or 8th inning and saw a sea of people gathered around at the top of Section 164...Was there a fight going on or something up there???

GiveMeSox
05-17-2005, 01:13 AM
I was with a a guy tonight who called himself a "Chicago Fan". He is an acquantance of my group really and not a bad guy, hes not really a big sports guy either. He will come along and have good time if thats what the group is doing. My impression is that "Chicago Fans" root for whatever chicago team is doing well and popular. He rooted for the Bulls this year in the playoffs and cubs in 2003 and this year for the sox. Yet he wont name anyone on any team and knows it. He doesn't try and compete he tries to have a good time with the situation. I dont really have a problem with that, he wears a sox hat to the sox game and cubs hat to the cubs game. Hes not a sports guy hes just goin with the group. It happens and there are plenty of people like this.

Sox of White
05-17-2005, 01:15 AM
I was with a a guy tonight who called himself a "Chicago Fan". He is an acquantance of my group really and not a bad guy, hes not really a big sports guy either. He will come along and have good time if thats what the group is doing. My impression is that "Chicago Fans" root for whatever chicago team is doing well and popular. He rooted for the Bulls this year in the playoffs and cubs in 2003 and this year for the sox. Yet he wont name anyone on any team and knows it. He doesn't try and compete he tries to have a good time with the situation. I dont really have a problem with that, he wears a sox hat to the sox game and cubs hat to the cubs game. Hes not a sports guy hes just goin with the group. It happens and there are plenty of people like this.

Yeah I realize this, but I hate when people really try to pass it off like they are a real fan.

Sox of White
05-17-2005, 01:16 AM
I was at the game tonight as well (Section 149) and looked over to the bleachers at about the 7th or 8th inning and saw a sea of people gathered around at the top of Section 164...Was there a fight going on or something up there???

Sure looked like a fight to me. It was quite a long one too. Usually the fights are broken up real quick. This one went on longer than I have seen before. There was also a lot of commotion around section 104. Half-price mondays bring out the drunks for sure.

WhiteSoxFan84
05-17-2005, 01:28 AM
i was at the game last tonight as i was at the game on sunday.

i sat in section 154 and i believe in either 155 or 156, there was an IDIOT wearing a SOX SUCK shirt and screaming "YEH, SOX SUCK! AND WHAT?! GO CUBBIES!" like a moron looking to get beaten up. so he got loud around the 2nd inning and got the attention he was looking for. then he started getting attention he wasn't looking for, as Sox fans came after him and security. it was funny watching this loud, annoying, pile of crap quiet down and get all embrassed as security told him to sit down and keep his mouth shut or he'd be leaving. he kept his mouth shut for a while but he did creep down the aisles later in the game screaming, "GO TEXAS!". too bad he wasn't a rangers fan at all.

there was a HUGE scuffle around section 164. everyone stood up and looked as some guy got escorted out and he was really giving security a tough time. about 5 minutes later, and mind you im sitting real far from these guys but i can still see a bunch of guys jumping either one guy or a bunch of other guys and security just storming towards that group.

your classic half-price monday. i really see this promotion coming to an end very soon. yes, it's a great thing for a middle class family and for the fans that make don't make a ton of cash. but i think this promo should be cut off before something very serious happens.

HomeFish
05-17-2005, 01:33 AM
I was in 531, right in front of an entire row of Koreans who were cheering quite vigorously for Chan Ho Park. They left when he was taken out of the game.

This guy really draws. It's incredible.

JoseCanseco6969
05-17-2005, 01:37 AM
Section 108-109 was equally as bad. I took my Dad to the game for the second time this year and he was upset witht he behavior of the fans. He couldnt believe how loud and annoying the fans were being. During the third these morons were going from section to section trying to get the wave going. They finally gave up in the 4th when someone yelled it was a Cubs thing to do. Horrible experience. I hope the rest of my tickets arent as bad for my dad. Non-stop drunk assclowns screaming at nothing. Twice on grounders, this one idiot kept screaming turn it!!!!! Then followed it up by oh there are 2 outs. These morons somehow snuck in around 15 cans of beers as well.
I can deal with the distraction of idiots and just tune them out but its hard for others with kids and older people to deal with this garbage.

DeuceUnit
05-17-2005, 02:05 AM
Nothing was as bad as the guy that tried starting a fight with me in the bathroom. I had my 87 hat with the cursive C on it. He was calling me ***** cub fan and told me to go back to the northside. The people around me were just looking at him like he was crazy.

Sox of White
05-17-2005, 02:11 AM
Nothing was as bad as the guy that tried starting a fight with me in the bathroom. I had my 87 hat with the cursive C on it. He was calling me ***** cub fan and told me to go back to the northside. The people around me were just looking at him like he was crazy.

That is ridiculous. If he was that upset about you being a Cub fan, he should definitely know about the classic cursive c hat.

Sox of White
05-17-2005, 02:12 AM
this one idiot kept screaming turn it!!!!! Then followed it up by oh there are 2 outs.

The guy in front of me did that same thing last night.

Ditka311
05-17-2005, 02:20 AM
I was in 160 but in row 12. The fight happened in 163/164 and went in 2 waves. At first security rushed in and ushered someone out. There was a lot of jawing but i didnt see any punches thrown. Then when security seemed to be preoccupied with that, round 2 ensued. I saw punches thrown and it seemed like it went on for awhile until security reacted.

Also, in 159 there was a group of about 10 or so drunks. A guy walked by in a Rangers jersey and they threw something at him. His soon, a pretty big dude was wearing a Thomas Sox jersey. Lot of verbal jawing and then the guy with the rangers jersey and his son were escorted out.

What was cool was that i was sitting right behind people that were from Japan. When the gong played for SHingo and Iguchi hit the HR, they were ecstatic. I felt happy for them. They were obviously not from here and they were enjoying the entire experience from beers to hot dogs and seeing their japanese players do pretty good.

shoota
05-17-2005, 02:47 AM
I love half price night. I'm a very knowledgeable Sox fan and live and die with my team. I also like a rowdy crowd. I like the drunks. I like the fights--because it's not Sox fans fighting each other, it's Sox fans defending our park from Cub fans trying to instigate fights. It seems like the only rowdiness happens in the bleacher section anyway.

MUsoxfan
05-17-2005, 02:52 AM
because it's not Sox fans fighting each other, it's Sox fans defending our park from Cub fans trying to instigate fights. It seems like the only rowdiness happens in the bleacher section anyway.

That's not entirely true. There were several obnoxious "Sox fans" on Friday night....looked like they got out of Statesville that morning. They were screaming in people's ears and threatening the health of children in the section. I was tempted to beat one of them silly....but I didn't want to be on the front page of the sports section

jeremydavid
05-17-2005, 03:12 AM
Let me get this straight...

Not everyone in the ballpark was sober and had an astute well-spoken knowledge of the game??? *****, it's a baseball game not everyone there is gonna be well-behaved and live/die with the team on the field.

That is all.

MUsoxfan
05-17-2005, 03:15 AM
Let me get this straight...

Not everyone in the ballpark was sober and had an astute well-spoken knowledge of the game??? *****, it's a baseball game not everyone there is gonna be well-behaved and live/die with the team on the field.

That is all.

You are correct. I always live and die by the team on the field, but I also live and die by beers alot of times. :cool:

Viva Medias B's
05-17-2005, 08:00 AM
I think Sox Security had its hands full last night. Not only was there the fight in 163/164, there was an earlier security intervention 157/158. Also, I saw security go into the men's room in right-center field.

I was sitting in Section 106 which overlooks the Bullpen Sports Bar. Late in the game, three fans in the front row were starting to get into it with a BSB patron wearing a Twins cap. It never escalated beyond words and middle fingers, but the Twins fan was eventually escoted out amid several "HE GONE!" shouts from the fans.

cubhater
05-17-2005, 08:10 AM
These morons somehow snuck in around 15 cans of beers as well.

Did you notify security? That'll solve the problem fast.

samram
05-17-2005, 08:20 AM
I love half price night. I'm a very knowledgeable Sox fan and live and die with my team. I also like a rowdy crowd. I like the drunks. I like the fights--because it's not Sox fans fighting each other, it's Sox fans defending our park from Cub fans trying to instigate fights. It seems like the only rowdiness happens in the bleacher section anyway.

The fights are inexcusable. The ball park is not a war zone, so there's no point couching it in terms of defending territory. If it's really just Cubs fans trying to start fights, ignore them- they'll look like bigger idiots than they already are if they're trying to start a fight and no one cares.

By the way, knowing that Sox management looks at this site, I think the fact there's a thread like this after every half-price night should send a strong signal that it's not worth it anymore. Not that they don't know what's going on anyway, but they know they can't hide it from either the fans or the media, and we all know the media would love nothing more than to criticize Sox fans for their behavior.

Spicoli
05-17-2005, 08:55 AM
I am perplexed by the desire to get rid of half-priced nights. It is a promotion from the organization that is a BENEFIT to SOX fans. We get to go to games for half price. This is something that should be celebrated by the fans...a for-profit company offering you a better deal. That is great! They just need to hire extra security for those games and enforced the rule of the law. Don't let a bunch of stooges from the North side or wherever ruin it.

SSN721
05-17-2005, 09:07 AM
HomeFish ruins yet another fan's ballpark experience... :D:
:roflmao: Oh man, that killed me. lol :D:

SSN721
05-17-2005, 09:28 AM
I am perplexed by the desire to get rid of half-priced nights. It is a promotion from the organization that is a BENEFIT to SOX fans. We get to go to games for half price. This is something that should be celebrated by the fans...a for-profit company offering you a better deal. That is great! They just need to hire extra security for those games and enforced the rule of the law. Don't let a bunch of stooges from the North side or wherever ruin it.

The thing I hate, is that it is suposed to be a promotion to help out families being able to afford to take everyone in your family to the ballpark. The only problem is the crowd has absolutley no regard for little kids, whether you are in the UD, Club level, or lower bowl. It is really awful, it is a situation where if I had kids I would not even take them on half price nights because the crowd is so bad and seems as ready to knock over or swear at a 10 yo kid as they do a Cub fan or fan of the opposing team. It is really bad, Sox management has to do something about it.

SaltyPretzel
05-17-2005, 09:51 AM
Maybe they should keep the bleachers full price on Mondays. These morons concentrate there and they believe that just because they are in the bleachers, they could act like drunken baffoons.

Jerko
05-17-2005, 10:47 AM
I don't know. I can down a lot of beers pre, during, and post-game and it doesn't make me want to beat someone's ass. I guess it all depends on how each individual can handle their liquor. We go over this every time, but no matter what the Sox do (short of ending the promotion altogether), these clowns will be hammered at the games no matter what (tailgating, getting smashed during the day and showing up hammered, etc.). That might be even worse. I haven't been to half-price night yet this year; do they still do the "one beer per customer per trip" in the OF?

Hangar18
05-17-2005, 11:50 AM
I think whats become very apparent, something the Chicago Media and Mike Murphy will conveniently overlook, is that Cub Fans are the ones causing
all the trouble .........

Spicoli
05-17-2005, 12:02 PM
I guess the question is, do they drink more beer because it is half price night--so they have a few extra dollars to spend on beer?


I mean, we want more attendance in general; so if the Sox start getting the attendance that they desire/deserve on non-promotion nights, will loudmouth and aggressive drunks be a problem? If so, it is not this particular promotion's problem, rather a more ubiquitous social malady.

Sox-on-TV44
05-17-2005, 12:10 PM
I was at sec162 row 2,next to Aaron's Amigos (You guys rock!)

And there's this big guy who was part of "Rowand's Rowdys",causing trouble with the "Amigos",he was standing right in front of me and my bro,and was grabbing one the mexican hats on one dude.Finally,security stepped in and show the big guy to the door,because his ticket was not an 100 row ticket.I thought it was because he had one too many,and want to start some crap.

But on the plus side,there was two hot babes who became "Aaron's Amigas" later on,espically the brunette shaking the miracas!:D: :D:

Still,it was a fun night,dispite the score.

Baby Fisk
05-17-2005, 12:18 PM
Nothing was as bad as the guy that tried starting a fight with me in the bathroom. I had my 87 hat with the cursive C on it. He was calling me ***** cub fan and told me to go back to the northside. The people around me were just looking at him like he was crazy.
Wow, just wow. *shaking head*

It's not as if the cursive C hats are some relic from the 1800s. Frank Thomas wore that hat as a rookie. That guy must have been very young.

skobabe8
05-17-2005, 04:58 PM
I was in 356 right behind the foul pole next to the fundamentals deck and had a birds eye view of the fights. It seemed like it broke out on the concourse almost behind the fan deck, and then the '2nd wave' happened in the bleachers next to the fan deck. we could see perfectly from our vantage point the punches flying during the 2nd wave. it was not pretty.

and thank goodness those ranger hr balls were able to 'find' the smart fans in left field, because there were ALOT of dumb ones tryin to get them thrown back.

shoota
05-17-2005, 06:29 PM
That's not entirely true. There were several obnoxious "Sox fans" on Friday night....looked like they got out of Statesville that morning. They were screaming in people's ears and threatening the health of children in the section. I was tempted to beat one of them silly....but I didn't want to be on the front page of the sports section

But Friday night is not a half price night so it has nothing to do with the rowdy half price crowd. Eliminating half price night would not keep those random idiot "fans" from attending.

shoota
05-17-2005, 06:44 PM
Some people like to complain about the half price nights and how they should be eliminated because some fans act rowdy and start fights. But what you should realize is that, as a respectful Sox fan, nobody will start a fight with you. YOU ARE IN NO DANGER! You can do anything you'd normally do at any other game!

The only complaint I recognize about half price night is the swearing in front of your children. I think that can be solved by not buying your family's tickets in the bleacher section on a Monday half price night. Sure there may be swearing or loud people in sections other than bleachers, but no more likely than on any other game.

Look at it this way: You're not a rowdy person and you enjoy watching the Sox in one way. There are people who are rowdy and would like to watch a game a different way. There's no reason why both personalities can't coexist because we're all Sox fans.

Viva Medias B's
05-17-2005, 11:45 PM
I think whats become very apparent, something the Chicago Media and Mike Murphy will conveniently overlook, is that Cub Fans are the ones causing
all the trouble .........

Be that as it may, Henry, I believe it takes two to tango.

rwcescato
05-18-2005, 12:14 AM
I was at sec162 row 2,next to Aaron's Amigos (You guys rock!)

And there's this big guy who was part of "Rowand's Rowdys",causing trouble with the "Amigos",he was standing right in front of me and my bro,and was grabbing one the mexican hats on one dude.Finally,security stepped in and show the big guy to the door,because his ticket was not an 100 row ticket.I thought it was because he had one too many,and want to start some crap.

But on the plus side,there was two hot babes who became "Aaron's Amigas" later on,espically the brunette shaking the miracas!:D: :D:

Still,it was a fun night,dispite the score.

I was sitting in section 100 row 1 and saw that 1st hand. At any rate it definitley reminds me when I was a kid. By the 7th inning fights use to break out in every section in the park, The players would stop playing and watch the action themselves. This was in the mid to late 70's. A fight broke out right in front of us 5 kids and my dad had to shove us out of the way.
Rich

FARMEO
05-18-2005, 12:25 AM
I was in 356 right behind the foul pole next to the fundamentals deck and had a birds eye view of the fights. It seemed like it broke out on the concourse almost behind the fan deck, and then the '2nd wave' happened in the bleachers next to the fan deck. we could see perfectly from our vantage point the punches flying during the 2nd wave. it was not pretty.

and thank goodness those ranger hr balls were able to 'find' the smart fans in left field, because there were ALOT of dumb ones tryin to get them thrown back.

I was right next to the first home run ball. I heard both "throw it back" and "we don't do that hear" - although this was much more angry sounding. The guy who picked up the ball stood there with a confused look on his face. He looked at the security guard in the bullpen and the guard actually said that he couldn't throw it back, I was shocked!!!! I don't know if the guy would have been tossed or not.

seanpmurphy
05-18-2005, 08:10 AM
Despite the fights at least no one is throwing beers on the players or grabbing jerseys...or trying to give Paul Konerko a hug. :D:

WhteSox725
05-18-2005, 09:29 AM
Despite the fights at least no one is throwing beers on the players or grabbing jerseys...or trying to give Paul Konerko a hug. :D:

With the way things are going lately maybe that's what Paulie needs...a hug.

WhteSox725
05-18-2005, 09:34 AM
I was in 356 right behind the foul pole next to the fundamentals deck and had a birds eye view of the fights. It seemed like it broke out on the concourse almost behind the fan deck, and then the '2nd wave' happened in the bleachers next to the fan deck. we could see perfectly from our vantage point the punches flying during the 2nd wave. it was not pretty.

and thank goodness those ranger hr balls were able to 'find' the smart fans in left field, because there were ALOT of dumb ones tryin to get them thrown back.

I was glad that those two fans didn't give in to the people around them and kept the balls instead of throwing them back.

I thought it was pretty funny when the security guard took the ball away from the girl who reached over and grabbed a ball in play down the third base line giving the Rangers a ground rule double.

Jerko
05-18-2005, 09:52 AM
With the way things are going lately maybe that's what Paulie needs...a hug.

A bear-hug maybe.

Optipessimism
05-21-2005, 06:42 AM
Let me get this straight...

Not everyone in the ballpark was sober and had an astute well-spoken knowledge of the game??? *****, it's a baseball game not everyone there is gonna be well-behaved and live/die with the team on the field.

That is all.

It's one thing to drink and enjoy yourself, yet another to make a complete ass of yourself and embarass people. When I go to games, I tailgate, I drink, and my friends and I usually consume enough alcoholic beverages to kill a medium sized farm animal. But, we still behave ourselves. We don't shout obscenities at people, we don't even swear when we're in our seats because there are kids everywhere, and the wildest we ever get is getting up out of our seats and slapping hands with other fans after a run scores or someone makes a nice play.

I know it's tough for some people, but it can be done. There are those who can 'hold their alcohol' and contain themselves, and there are others who can not. Those who can not should be so wise as to not drink as much. If they do, then they should be escorted out of the building and shot in the parking lot because not only do they ruin baseball games, they go on to further replicate this behavior as soon as they leave. These idiots affect us all.