Peter Angelos

[Paulwny]

He believes only NYC can support 2 teams.



By Mark Asher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 9, 2001; Page D01



Baltimore Orioles owner Peter Angelos said he is protecting the financial viability of his franchise with his efforts to keep a Major League Baseball team out of the District or Northern Virginia and has "nothing personal" against the region or its baseball fans.
Pressing his point, Angelos said two teams in the same area -- such as the Cubs and White Sox in Chicago, Dodgers and Angels in Southern California and the Giants and Athletics in the Bay Area -- often struggle, a theory many fans in those cities discount. Angelos noted New York, with the Yankees and Mets, is an exception.

In Tuesday's 28-2 vote, Angelos was among the owners voting for elimination of two teams, probably Montreal and Minnesota, industry sources said. Angelos reportedly was in favor of eliminating four teams.

Angelos also said he believes only one market -- metropolitan New York, with 25 million to 30 million people -- can support two franchises. The Yankees last season had revenues exceeding $200 million. By comparison, the Orioles, according to Kagan Appraisals Inc., which evaluates pro sports franchises, had revenues of $123.6 million in 1999, sixth-best among the 30 MLB franchises.

[RKMeibalane]

A lot of people have said that Angelos doesn't want a team to move to the Washington DC area because the existence of such a team would threaten the control the Orioles have over fan base, media, etc. If, for example, the Twins became the Washington Senators (notice the irony), Baltimore would lose at least a small portion of its fan base because people would opt to root for a team closer to home, especially when one considers that the Orioles have played poorly over the past few seasons.

I don't think Angelos is concerned about one area being able to support two teams, but rather, the prospect of losing money because fans won't pay to watch mediocre baseball. That sort of thing happens only on the north side of Chicago.

[Paulwny]

Originally posted by RKMeibalane
A lot of people have said that Angelos doesn't want a team to move to the Washington DC area because the existence of such a team would threaten the control the Orioles have over fan base, media, etc. If, for example, the Twins became the Washington Senators (notice the irony), Baltimore would lose at least a small portion of its fan base because people would opt to root for a team closer to home, especially when one considers that the Orioles have played poorly over the past few seasons.




Does Angelos know that contraction won't fly and mlb owners will negotiate with the players' union to relocate teams?

[FarWestChicago]

Originally posted by Paulwny



Does Angelos know that contraction won't fly and mlb owners will negotiate with the players' union to relocate teams? Who knows? Angelos is an idiot.

[Paulwny]

Originally posted by FarWestChicago
Who knows? Angelos is an idiot.

LOL, Aren't most of the mlb owners?

[Spiff]

Originally posted by RKMeibalane
A lot of people have said that Angelos doesn't want a team to move to the Washington DC area because the existence of such a team would threaten the control the Orioles have over fan base, media, etc. If, for example, the Twins became the Washington Senators (notice the irony), Baltimore would lose at least a small portion of its fan base because people would opt to root for a team closer to home, especially when one considers that the Orioles have played poorly over the past few seasons.

I don't think Angelos is concerned about one area being able to support two teams, but rather, the prospect of losing money because fans won't pay to watch mediocre baseball. That sort of thing happens only on the north side of Chicago.

Angelos doesn't hide the fact that he doesn't want a team in DC for that very reason, the fanbase. But while he says about 20-30% of the people at O's games are from DC, other people (studies, I think) say it's only about 10-15%.

[Soxheads]

Originally posted by FarWestChicago
Who knows? Angelos is an idiot.

One of the smarter things I have heard today.