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white sox bill
05-12-2005, 12:50 PM
IIRC in 2000, we were in first from approx. mid April on correct? The Sox have a chance to be in first place ALL SEASON LONG! Would this be the first time this has been done?(Doubt it, and hope I didn't jinx them!)

batmanZoSo
05-12-2005, 01:00 PM
IIRC in 2000, we were in first from approx. mid April on correct? The Sox have a chance to be in first place ALL SEASON LONG! Would this be the first time this has been done?(Doubt it, and hope I didn't jinx them!)

For us, maybe, maybe not. But it has been done by other teams many times. The 84 Tigers for one and I believe when this was discussed recently, someone said the 97 Orioles as well.

balke
05-12-2005, 01:03 PM
That would be sweet, but we have a tough hill to climb to stay in first all season. There's another great team in our division, who's got one of the hottest hitters in all of baseball. We have better quality starters, hopefully we can just run from here on out.

I'd love to see a 7 game lead at the break... that would make me very optmistic.

Mickster
05-12-2005, 01:43 PM
I'd love to see a 7 game lead at the break... that would make me very optmistic.

A 7 game lead at the break makes you optimistic? Hell, the only time I'd feel optimistic would be a 7 game lead with 6 games to go. Sorry - just my pessimistic nature.

soxwon
05-12-2005, 04:05 PM
Dont beat me up, but what is the best start the Cubs ever Had!!!

and if it was before 1960, what is the best start for them since 60?

bluestar
05-12-2005, 04:23 PM
Not to rain on any parades, but didn't KC have a 7 or 8 game lead at or near the break in 2003? They finished in 3rd place. IIRC they went on a big losing streak right after the break while the Sox and Twins got hot and started winning.

MushMouth
05-12-2005, 04:25 PM
1990 Cincy Reds went wire-to-wire in first, all the way to their Bling-Bling

elrod
05-12-2005, 04:29 PM
Not to rain on any parades, but didn't KC have a 7 or 8 game lead at or near the break in 2003? They finished in 3rd place. IIRC they went on a big losing streak right after the break while the Sox and Twins got hot and started winning.

On July 17 (ASB), the standings were:

KC 52-41
Min 45-49 7.5 GB
CHW 45-50 8.0 GB

After July 17, the teams went as follows:

Min 45-23
CHW 41-26
KC 31-38

cheeses_h_rice
05-12-2005, 04:42 PM
IIRC in 2000, we were in first from approx. mid April on correct? The Sox have a chance to be in first place ALL SEASON LONG! Would this be the first time this has been done?(Doubt it, and hope I didn't jinx them!)

The 1959 team probably would have been in first place all year if the AL East/West distinction existed, from my quick research of their schedule and results.

The 1919 team came close, but it looks like the Yankees passed them by percentage points around 6/25/19.

The 1917 team was behind the Red Sox in mid-May, so that rules them out.

The 1906 team was 13-15 at one point, so that rules them out.

The 1901 team was behind the Tigers, at minimum, so that rules them out.

Wow. 100+ years of White Sox baseball, and this might be the first year the Sox run it wire to wire.

owensmouth
05-12-2005, 06:03 PM
The 1959 team probably would have been in first place all year if the AL East/West distinction existed, from my quick research of their schedule and results.

I doubt it. In 1959 the American League had 8 teams: New York, Boston, Washington, Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore, Kansas City and the White Sox. If we had a two division race, the Sox would have been in the west with Cleveland, Detroit and Kansas City. Cleveland was the only other team that was really in the race, so we still would not have run it wire to wire.

The Yankees had a decidedly down year that year.

whitesoxwilkes
05-12-2005, 06:05 PM
Dont beat me up, but what is the best start the Cubs ever Had!!!

and if it was before 1960, what is the best start for them since 60?

:whocares

Johnny Mostil
05-12-2005, 06:18 PM
Dont beat me up, but what is the best start the Cubs ever Had!!!

and if it was before 1960, what is the best start for them since 60?

You can check out (and define) best "starts" for any team at http://baseball-reference.com/games/streaks.shtml.

Johnny Mostil
05-12-2005, 06:19 PM
Wow. 100+ years of White Sox baseball, and this might be the first year the Sox run it wire to wire.

Alas, not surprising when first-place finishes of any kind, much less wire-to-wire, can be counted all too easily . . .

Johnny Mostil
05-12-2005, 06:25 PM
I just found this nugget at ask.com, in a story about the '03 Giants:



. . . the Giants won their race without ever trailing, not for a minute, since their season opened on March 31. Only eight other major-league teams have accomplished that. Four of them won the World Series. But of the last three teams, which won in the years after baseball had expanded to six divisions, none even reached the Series.





No mention who the other eight were, though some have been mentioned in this thread, of course.

MeanFish
05-12-2005, 07:12 PM
The 91 or 92 Reds did it too. Or was it 90? Whichever year they won the series.

That was 1990. Swept the A's in a supreme upset.