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DoggPhood
05-09-2005, 09:02 PM
whatever, you know? ain't gonna win 'em all

itsnotrequired
05-09-2005, 09:03 PM
Eh...

At least the Twins lost. Go get 'em tomorrow, boys.

peeonwrigley
05-09-2005, 09:03 PM
This game was blah.

Sox of White
05-09-2005, 09:04 PM
Eh...

At least the Twins lost. Go get 'em tomorrow, boys.

Start up another winning streak.

Kogs35
05-09-2005, 09:04 PM
this was very winnable still got 1 streak going payback tomorow night !!!!!!

SoxFan48
05-09-2005, 09:05 PM
whatever, you know? ain't gonna win 'em all

...but Ozzie made a bad decision in 3rd...1 and 2 no one out and Iguich sacrifices...two points. We gave up an out and Everett bats about .001 against Nomo...a quick Everett K and we were back on the field.

chisoxmike
05-09-2005, 09:05 PM
The Sox did their best "we're only going to play the first inning and let the opposing pitcher shut us down afterwards" game tonight.

It's one game, nothing to get all pissed off about.

24-8 ain't bad fellas, lets get em tomorrow.

NSSoxFan
05-09-2005, 09:05 PM
Never fun to lose, but yea whatever.

Garcia wasn't his best. Needless to say, the offense has to pick it up the last two game of the series.

Go get 'em tomorrow.

samram
05-09-2005, 09:05 PM
This game was blah.

Yeah, it happens. I want to know when Lance Carter got good, but the Sox will come back and take the next two.

voodoochile
05-09-2005, 09:05 PM
this was very winnable still got 1 streak going payback tomorow night !!!!!!

They've ALL been winnable this year... how cool is that?

:supernana::supernana::supernana::supernana: :bandance: Still...

kevingrt
05-09-2005, 09:06 PM
Word of the Day: Whateva...

You can't win them all exactly. At least they lost on the road not at home, and that like six game win streak by starters was too good to be true. The abts will come alive, Carter and Nomo pitched pretty well. Good effort.

PaleHoseGeorge
05-09-2005, 09:06 PM
Minnesota lost, too. So no worries.
:cool:

:hawk
"I luv it when you analyze."

cheeses_h_rice
05-09-2005, 09:06 PM
When we got Jermaine Dye, all I was concerned about was how much lower his BA would been than Maggs' usual .300.

Never thought I had to worry about him failing Baseball Defense 101, though.

:angry:

DoggPhood
05-09-2005, 09:06 PM
good job, guys. no real complaining yet.

it's nice to be in this position :gulp:

swanson24
05-09-2005, 09:07 PM
At least the Sox made it at exciting at the end by bringing Uribe up as the tying run! The winning streak had to end ssome time so great job guys!

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-09-2005, 09:08 PM
Good job guys, i love how all of you just wanna keep moving on and accept this loss. I mean, look at the yankees this year. We gotta get over it and lets go sox. Look at the brightside, cubs were losing, twins lost.

Brian26
05-09-2005, 09:09 PM
I was totally impressed with Ventura in the booth. He is just as likable now as he was a player. He had nice insights, was funny and self-depricating. Sign him up!

SoxFan48
05-09-2005, 09:09 PM
But Offense is not doing its job. We rank 9th or in AL in every single category that matters. Long run not good enough...I've got to have faith that offense will pick up a lot going forward.

Stroker Ace
05-09-2005, 09:09 PM
I wonder what Willsey must be going through. The Sox lost, but the D-Rays won. :?:

HawkDJ
05-09-2005, 09:10 PM
I was totally impressed with Ventura in the booth. He is just as likable now as he was a player. He had nice insights, was funny and self-depricating. Sign him up!

Robin was awesome. ANd he somehow made DJ better. He's got that Conan style self-depricating humor

itsnotrequired
05-09-2005, 09:10 PM
I would throw this game into that "40 you are sure to lose" group. Let's close out the next two! 2-1 on the road ain't bad because as they say, even a blind squirrel will eventually find a nut.

ilsox7
05-09-2005, 09:15 PM
Maybe we've turned a corner at WSI. No one has proclaimed us a last-place failure as of yet!

Taz
05-09-2005, 09:16 PM
This game was blah.

Yeah... was it just me, or did it seem like 'the spark' was gone...

I am hoping it was just the long trip from Canada to Florida...

SOX ADDICT '73
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
After a pretty decent weekend offensively, seems they had just enough gas left in the tank for one more inning.

This team can't make up its mind whether it wants to drag ass for six innings, and then score in 7-8-9, or score all their runs early and go on a coffee break for the rest of the game.

infohawk
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
Good job guys, i love how all of you just wanna keep moving on and accept this loss. I mean, look at the yankees this year. We gotta get over it and lets go sox. Look at the brightside, cubs were losing, twins lost.

Hey, I agree. I was certain that the "string-em up" posse would be riding tonight. Truthfully, the D-Rays played a very solid game. Good pitching, good defense and timely hitting. Kind of like the Sox usually do!!! I've always thought that the Rays played the Sox tough at Tropicana Field. Not really a bad game by the Sox, a timely hit here and a bang-bang defensive play there and it could have turned the other way.

Pretty hard to sweep three teams in a row, especially with two of the series on the road. Go get them tomorrow guys!

SluggersAway
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
We had a chance all the way through, that is what you have to have in each and every game. Sometimes it doesn't fall our way. Let's pick up and go tomorrow.

itsnotrequired
05-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Maybe we've turned a corner at WSI. No one has proclaimed us a last-place failure as of yet!

This just seemed like an "easy" loss to handle. You could tell the Sox just didn't have it tonight and the D-Rays were locked in. Tough to win in those situations.

Many of the other losses were so much more frustrating. Blown opportunities left and right, non-clutch hitting, mental errors, bad calls by the umps, etc. Those are the ones where you want to throw a brick through the TV.

mike squires
05-09-2005, 09:21 PM
Yeah, my heart sank when I turned it back and saw we were down 4 to 2. I'm with you guys, it's just one game but man 25-7 sounds sweet too!!! I just hope this team can keep it going. I'd hate to get into the usual win 1 one lose 3 win 1 lose two win 1 lose 3...Let's get the next two and take 2 out of three from Baltimore. At least take the series'.

SluggersAway
05-09-2005, 09:32 PM
The only problem was not scoring for the last 8 innings after bringing 2 home in the first.

But, on the bright side...Iguchi has nine RBI over his last 10 games. ... and the Sox have held a lead in all 32 of their games, extending their major league record!!!

SOX ADDICT '73
05-09-2005, 09:41 PM
I know winning streaks don't go on forever (though 12 woulda been nice; I'm going Thursday!). I guess the most disappointing thing is that this week looked like a prime opportunity to finally put a little bit of distance between us and the Twins.

Amongst all the praise the Sox have finally started to get on the national level, have been these occasional comments: "Boy, how disappointing for the Sox to have this tremendous start, and they're only 4.5 games up on the Twins." They are not going to go away (if I had a nickel for every time I've seen "In-play, run-scoring play" on GameDay with Lew Ford at the plate...), but we need to put them as far in the rear-view mirror as possible.

It's not too late, though. If we can win the next two, and Baltimore can win their series, or even SWEEP, I'd feel a lot more comfortable going into a four-game set with the Orioles. Meanwhile, the Twins will get a Rangers team that was just shut-out by the toothless Tigers.

Lip Man 1
05-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Can't win them all although as Bill Melton said afterwards he was 'surprised' that the Sox pitchers threw breaking balls to Singleton. With his swing Bill said, you can tie him up and get him out on fastballs.

Need to go get em' tomorrow.

Lip

White Sox Josh
05-09-2005, 09:46 PM
I wonder what Home Fish will say now. Oh the Sox suck because they can only go 154-8 now.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

batmanZoSo
05-09-2005, 09:47 PM
The Baltimore series is four games.

This team has got to start hitting now because the pitching is inevitably starting to fall back to earth a little bit. That's four starts in a row that were mediocre. They're not gonna carry the bats all year. It's May 9th already, it's about time the offense got hot (they've got to be due, right?) and one guy in particular has got to get his head out of his rear.

When you win 8 in a row, you're due for a game like this and it doesn't really matter because the Twins lost. I just don't want to see any carry over tomorrow. I don't care how hot you've been, you've got to win 2 out of 3 in Tampa. Contreras was outstanding last time out, so maybe he found something. If that's the case I like our chances tomorrow.

schmitty9800
05-09-2005, 09:51 PM
...but Ozzie made a bad decision in 3rd...1 and 2 no one out and Iguich sacrifices...two points. We gave up an out and Everett bats about .001 against Nomo...a quick Everett K and we were back on the field.I still liked the play. That's what you have to do in that situation. If he's that bad against Nomo where he can't be trusted to drive in runs then he shouldn't be in the lineup in the first place.

ma-gaga
05-09-2005, 09:54 PM
Let's get them tomorrow guys!

Man. This thread is disappointing. Everyone is so positive. Even Lip. :o:

It's nice to see some small changes around here.

:gulp: nothing to see here...

chisoxmike
05-09-2005, 09:55 PM
The Baltimore series is four games.

This team has got to start hitting now because the pitching is inevitably starting to fall back to earth a little bit. That's four starts in a row that were mediocre. They're not gonna carry the bats all year. It's May 9th already, it's about time the offense got hot (they've got to be due, right?) and one guy in particular has got to get his head out of his rear.

When you win 8 in a row, you're due for a game like this and it doesn't really matter because the Twins lost. I just don't want to see any carry over tomorrow. I don't care how hot you've been, you've got to win 2 out of 3 in Tampa. Contreras was outstanding last time out, so maybe he found something. If that's the case I like our chances tomorrow.

Yeah, now is the time to start hitting, pound the Devil Ray's for the next two games, and I'd be happy with a split with BAL-TEE-MO - good pitching beats good hitting.

balke
05-09-2005, 09:59 PM
Yeah, the D-rays aren't that bad this season, as a matter of fact they lead the MLB in hits. Cantu is a good ballplayer that just stepped in at 3rd, and there's a string of above average all around players on the team. I thought Freddy actually pitched a great game, he just got some hits strung together on him, and caught some bad breaks in the big inning.

It was disappointing to see Dye let one go through his legs again. He already has 4 errors on the season. Hopefully he's gotten it out of his system. Hopefully Jose C can make the D-rays look silly in his outing.

Great job by Iguchi tonight, he just missed a late inning dinger, good to see Podsednik stealing yet again.

elrod
05-09-2005, 10:09 PM
The pitching was fine, except for the Singleton hit with 2 strikes. The problem is the hitting. We had a few hard hit balls early against Nomo, but could do absolutely nothing against Carter. I kept waiting for something to fall in in the 8th and nothing did. Just lots of pop outs.

veeter
05-09-2005, 10:16 PM
I think some losses can be good. This one, after the guys think about it, should annoy them. I'm expecting to see energy tomorrow. Although once again the top of the order did their thing. Pods and Iguchi are a serious 1-2 punch. I predict MVP votes for Pods this year. At least from me.

Stroker Ace
05-09-2005, 10:26 PM
NOOOOO!!!!! I had to change my sig, and that can't be a good thing.

TaylorStSox
05-09-2005, 10:30 PM
This series scared me anyway. I thought we might lose 2 out of 3. The DRay's play good D and have a ton of speed. Plus, playing in that dome must suck. So, I wouldn't be surprised to see us drop another 1 here and split the B-more series. I'm fine with that. We're going to hit a few rough streaks during the season.

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-09-2005, 10:38 PM
NOOOOO!!!!! I had to change my sig, and that can't be a good thing.

yeah, i know how it feels. i havent had to change the right number in a long time. it was probably a reflex, but i deleted the first number and then had to type it in again. gosh darn it

Chisox003
05-09-2005, 10:38 PM
Im really not used to this whole losing thing....

5 of 6 on the road aint bad though....Get er done!

S05X

SoxWillWin
05-09-2005, 10:54 PM
They still had a lead early, which means they gave themselves a chance to win, You can't ask for much more in a loss. Now if they were shutout and never had a chance to win I'd be a little upset, but as the thread title states.....Whatever.

Edit: I know, I know, but I couldn't find a picture of El Duque in a Sox Uni, besides it looks like Crisp is scared of him....

TomParrish79
05-09-2005, 10:57 PM
Maybe we've turned a corner at WSI. No one has proclaimed us a last-place failure as of yet!


Man this sucks, now I just know we are gonna lose the rest of these games, this team is finished, back up the garbage truck, their garbage all of them are garbage!!!

lol.. I keed!! I keed!!!!

Actually you guys have pretty much said it all, I agree cant win them all, and we cant have heroics every night.

I had class tonite so I started watching about the 5th inning, and I agree that Robin was pretty good in the booth, I was impressed. And we all know we are gonna lose from time to time.

So lets go out and start another winning streak tomorrow!!

StrTrkker
05-09-2005, 10:59 PM
These kinda games come along here n there so a loss on the road is expected at times.

We'll beat 'em tomorrow nite.

Huisj
05-09-2005, 11:32 PM
Yeah, it happens. I want to know when Lance Carter got good, but the Sox will come back and take the next two.

what are you talking about, he was an all star two years ago!

batmanZoSo
05-09-2005, 11:43 PM
Im really not used to this whole losing thing....


S05X

Ain't that the truth. This team loses so infrequently, it's hard to take.

I'm really gearing up for the Balto series. You know ESPN is going to highlight it, so it's important that we don't lay an egg. Winning 3/4 would be a big step toward national respect. Not that we don't deserve it already.

owensmouth
05-09-2005, 11:54 PM
We do seem to have our proplems in the dome down there. Every year we seem to lose the first game. Tampa Bay has a team that is 1-10 on the road and 11-11 in there dome. Plus, they have some hitters that can work that environment better than they can outside of it. My gosh, we have to leave it to Contreras to be the one to halt this terrible one game avalanche!! Woe is me.

FarWestChicago
05-10-2005, 12:24 AM
Man. This thread is disappointing. Everyone is so positive. Even Lip. :o:

It's nice to see some small changes around here.

:gulp: nothing to see here...Give the complete lunatics a chance. They'll show up. :D:

MIgrenade
05-10-2005, 12:30 AM
The Sox beat themselves. They had chances and did not capitalize, which has been going on all season but tonight it came back to haunt them. I'm more concerned about Baltimore. Wouldn't shock me if they were too.

SoxxoS
05-10-2005, 12:42 AM
Looking to Baltimore isn't going to do any good. We lose these next two against Tampa and sweep Baltimore, we are only 4-3. We win these next to and I we could split to equal that record. These two games are very important and can't be overlooked.

Plus, this is a little "Homefishy" but this is setting up as a Cubs/Sox series that we better play very well on...they are playing awful, but we know that after getting swept or sweeping those guys can send these guys in either direction...

BRDSR
05-10-2005, 12:56 AM
I never thought I'd see the day where a White Sox loss postgame thread started with "whatever..." I think WSI's collective psychologist would say that we're really making progress with our need to control things.

MUsoxfan
05-10-2005, 01:04 AM
I never thought I'd see the day where a White Sox loss postgame thread started with "whatever..." I think WSI's collective psychologist would say that we're really making progress with our need to control things.

I agree. I think I turned a corner tonight. This was the first time after a Sox loss that I don't feel terribly angry/depressed/upset. I just kinda shrugged it off, and that hasn't happened in a very long time. I guess 16 wins in 20 games will change your mentality a smidge

Jjav829
05-10-2005, 01:11 AM
Whoa, whoa, wait a second, I was only joking when I said...

Plus you always want to have that lefty specialist that can face Chris Singleton in big situations.

I just can't believe slow-swing beat us. :smile:

BTW, is it possible for us to get a roadtrip in at Kansas City before we come back home? I'd love to hit the trifecta of the most boring parks in baseball. We just left the Skydome. Now the Trop. If we can squeeze in a trip to Kauffman, we'll have hit on possibly the most boring 9-game roadtrip in MLB history.

MUsoxfan
05-10-2005, 01:14 AM
BTW, is it possible for us to get a roadtrip in at Kansas City before we come back home? I'd love to hit the trifecta of the most boring parks in baseball. We just left the Skydome. Now the Trop. If we can squeeze in a trip to Kauffman, we'll have hit on possibly the most boring 9-game roadtrip in MLB history.

Don't forget the Oakland Coliseum:wink:

fox2
05-10-2005, 01:46 AM
All streaks must come to an end some time. Last night we saw the end of the Sox' eight game winning streak, the Twins' four game winning streak, and the Cubs' one game winning streak.

Foulke You
05-10-2005, 03:08 AM
I share the sentiment of many of the other posters here. We were bound to lose one sooner or later...even to the lowly D-Rays. Too bad we couldn't get a little bit more offense for Freddy, he pitched well enough to get a "W" today.

JRIG
05-10-2005, 06:39 AM
Whoa, whoa, wait a second, I was only joking when I said...

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I just can't believe slow-swing beat us. :smile:

BTW, is it possible for us to get a roadtrip in at Kansas City before we come back home? I'd love to hit the trifecta of the most boring parks in baseball. We just left the Skydome. Now the Trop. If we can squeeze in a trip to Kauffman, we'll have hit on possibly the most boring 9-game roadtrip in MLB history.

Have you been to Kaufman? I only ask because it was actually near the top of my list of ballparks to visit next. I think it looks like a very interesting and well, pretty, park on TV. But if you've been there and say it sucks I'll move it down the list.

elrod
05-10-2005, 08:03 AM
Last night was one of the first games all year that the Sox were truly beaten. They didn't blow it on a bunch of bad errors, or have a bunch of bizarro calls and phantom balks, or suffer a meltdown in the bullpen. It was just their starter, and his injury replacement, outlasting our starter. They got the two out hits and we didn't. They continued to battle and put runners on base, and we didn't. The Devil Rays were truly the better team on the diamond than the White Sox. The only other game I can think of like this was the Garcia loss to Seattle or El Duque loss at Cleveland.

Ol' No. 2
05-10-2005, 09:36 AM
Can't win them all although as Bill Melton said afterwards he was 'surprised' that the Sox pitchers threw breaking balls to Singleton. With his swing Bill said, you can tie him up and get him out on fastballs.

Need to go get em' tomorrow.

LipI was glad to hear Melton mention it, because I was thinking the exact same thing. What happened to the Jalepenos? Is there anyone who didn't know that Singleton had no chance to catch up to a Garcia heater? So they come with the duece??? What were they thinking?

I was also a little disappointed in Uribe in the 9th. Everybody in the place knew Baez was going to come with a forkball out of the zone. How can you get fooled that badly on a pitch you have to know is coming?

Overall, it was a winnable game. Way too many missed opportunities. It's clear no one can beat the Sox, but they sure can beat themselves.

tstrike2000
05-10-2005, 09:43 AM
Even though we won 4 of 6 against the Rays last year, we've lost close games we should've won before down there. I remember in 2000 Bob Howry giving up a winning home run after throwing 4 straight fast balls and Billy Koch doing his usual impersonation as a batting practice coach two years ago. This is a resiliant team, we'll bounce back and start momentum again in time for the Orioles series.

Baby Fisk
05-10-2005, 09:53 AM
I was totally impressed with Ventura in the booth. He is just as likable now as he was a player. He had nice insights, was funny and self-depricating. Sign him up!
Robin could definitely grow into that job. He's still a bit too silent/sleepy at times, but his insights are cool. He's good with subtle humour too:

"You know, the tying run always comes to the plate."

[one minute later]

"You know, the winning run always comes to the plate."

Nice! :cool:

However, DJ still needs to cut down on the clairvoyant crap. Everytime he tries to predict or "will" something to happen, it doesn't. He's not causing it with his predictions, but it's annoying to listen to him be wrong on so many plays. Makes him look like an idiot.

Jjav829
05-10-2005, 10:11 AM
Have you been to Kaufman? I only ask because it was actually near the top of my list of ballparks to visit next. I think it looks like a very interesting and well, pretty, park on TV. But if you've been there and say it sucks I'll move it down the list.

I haven't been there. I don't know what it's like when you're actually at a game. It looks like a decent park. But IMO, it's a pretty boring park to watch on TV. I'll admit the outfield area makes it look nice, but you hardly see that on TV.

kittle42
05-10-2005, 10:21 AM
Yeah, now is the time to start hitting, pound the Devil Ray's for the next two games, and I'd be happy with a split with BAL-TEE-MO - good pitching beats good hitting.

The Devil Ray's what? And which Devil Ray?

:wink:

BRDSR
05-10-2005, 10:45 AM
The Devil Ray's what? And which Devil Ray?

:wink:

I'm sure he meant that it was time to pound the Devil's Ray. I'm not really sure what that means, but I think its probably heretical.

Lip Man 1
05-10-2005, 10:49 AM
Howry gave up that game winning home run to John Flaherty. I think it was on my birthday 8/25.

Koch's blown game came during a streak when the Sox were hot, after it they had their troubles.

Lip

TDog
05-10-2005, 10:58 AM
...
Koch's blown game came during a streak when the Sox were hot, after it they had their troubles.

Lip

I think that was July 4, 2003. In any case it was the last baseball game I saw on television.

bluestar
05-10-2005, 11:07 AM
Koch's blown game came during a streak when the Sox were hot, after it they had their troubles.

Lip

And when that happened, you could just sense that team was entering a funk. I remember telling my wife at the end of that game that I felt really bad about how that game ended, as if it were a bad omen or something. Something about those games at Tropicana -- they always seem to lack energy and focus.

Oh, and give the D-Rays some credit for last night; they were getting pretty desperate for a win.

I'm not worried, but I think we really need to win these next two games.

SoxxoS
05-10-2005, 11:49 AM
I think that was July 4, 2003. In any case it was the last baseball game I saw on television.

Yep, homerun to Carl Crawford (who I believe had 3 at the time).

NorthlakeTom
05-10-2005, 12:13 PM
Look at it this way. Freddy became the first Sox starter to lose two games - on May 9th.

Not bad at all.

Here's another angle. The Sox still have the best record in baseball by 2 1/2 games.

Hitmen77
05-10-2005, 01:20 PM
We had to lose sooner or later, but I was disappointed at how the Sox played. Over the last few games, they are reminding me of the Sox of the past couple of years - score early and then totally shut down the offense. We won't continue our winning ways with that kind of effort.

Brian26
05-10-2005, 03:03 PM
Howry gave up that game winning home run to John Flaherty. I think it was on my birthday 8/25.


I remember that game like it was yesterday too. Didn't Flaherty totally work the count on Howry and keep fouling off pitches? At one point, Hawk talked about how tight his butt was since it was such a close game. That phrase comes up a couple of times a year w/ Hawk.