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Hangar18
05-04-2005, 11:51 AM
It was pretty chilly last nite, not exactly baseball weather.
The attendance suffered accordingly, but there was a definite VIBE
at the park last nite and of the people that were there, we sure sounded
like 40,000. One of the many reasons I think SOX fans are some of
the most loyal and vocal fans in baseball.

mweflen
05-04-2005, 11:57 AM
i was there too, and i agree it was a pretty energetic crowd. all 6,000 of the true fans who showed, anyway :smile:

i hope there are no more games at this temperature again this season, however. 3 in a row is enough for me (friday, sunday, tuesday).

3rd_Gen_Sox_Fan
05-04-2005, 12:00 PM
From watching on TV (The HORRIBLE KC broadcast on Extra Innings) I would have to agree.

The seats looked pretty empty, but the crowd sounded pretty loud, especially the second 15 tagged his 1st MLB home run. I hope the dude who caught that ball did some wheeling and dealing so Tadahito got to keep it.

skobabe8
05-04-2005, 12:02 PM
i was there too, and i agree it was a pretty energetic crowd. all 6,000 of the true fans who showed, anyway :smile:

i hope there are no more games at this temperature again this season, however. 3 in a row is enough for me (friday, sunday, tuesday).

I heard a roar early on while getting a beverage on the UD concourse and thought to myself "We sure are loud for 10,000 people."

Our place will be DEAFENING later in the year.

Baby Fisk
05-04-2005, 12:10 PM
(The HORRIBLE KC broadcast on Extra Innings)


That was brutal. The entire broadcast seemed to be out of focus.

ChicagoHoosier
05-04-2005, 12:12 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence? I feel like I'm making excuses when I say it's cold weather. With our team winning like we are, I was hoping to see a better attendence last night.

I'm going to 9-10 games (hopefully a few more) this year, so not sure if I'm helping resolve the problem or contributing to it, but just don't know what to say to defend our lack of attendence.

Other than, it'll take a record like this in June to get big crowds.

mweflen
05-04-2005, 12:14 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence? I feel like I'm making excuses when I say it's cold weather. With our team winning like we are, I was hoping to see a better attendence last night.

I'm going to 9-10 games (hopefully a few more) this year, so not sure if I'm helping resolve the problem or contributing to it, but just don't know what to say to defend our lack of attendence.

Other than, it'll take a record like this in June to get big crowds.

Tell them it's better to have 20,000 actual baseball fans than 40,000 drunken morons. Am I wrong for assuming this is directed towards snotty Cubs fans?:redneck

PaleHoseGeorge
05-04-2005, 12:21 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence? .

Easy.
Chicagoans only support losing baseball teams. In fact the Lovable Losers will bus them in from Iowa and easily clear 3 million, too.

Sox Fans like you and me are the only sensible baseball fans left, and we're vastly outnumbered by idiots.
That ought to work. It works because it's the truth, and the Chicago media is too scared to report it. They don't dare insult the majority of their paying audience.

Chicagoans are baseball idiots. The truth hurts. Now go blow up a cursed baseball, or a billygoat or something...

LVSoxFan
05-04-2005, 12:28 PM
My Cub superfan jackass co-worker tried to pull out the attendance thing as well--if we're so great, how come we don't sell out?

I pointed out that you have to be pretty hardcore to go to a game when it's 40 degrees out and drizzly (like me on Sunday). But who cares? I don't want 20,000 "new" fans to start showing up and making it hard for me to get in to see my team.

As for the Cubs, just wait: as they further and further out of it--at this pace they'll be out of the running by the ASB--those tickets are going to become much, much more available.

Plus, in the Lakeview area, you can just get up and walk to a Cubs game because of the location. You have to actually GO to a Sox game (unless you live in Bridgeport).

Back to last night: that WAS a lot of noise from so few fans, nice! I'll be there tonight--hopefully it will be warmer, although we have a skybox AND seats down the 3BL (where I prefer to be). Sweet!

(before you start, it's a once-a-year work thing, that skybox)

ChicagoHoosier
05-04-2005, 12:28 PM
Tell them it's better to have 20,000 actual baseball fans than 40,000 drunken morons. Am I wrong for assuming this is directed towards snotty Cubs fans?:redneck

Actually came from a Red Sox fan who lives in Chicago. I always use the "Wrigley fans" vs. "baseball fans" when I get it from a Cubs person. But, more of when someone who likes baseball for baseball wondering why a winning team like the Sox can't draw a bigger crowd. I hate making the excuse that the park is harder to get to, but it's true.

I like some of your responses so far.

mweflen
05-04-2005, 12:32 PM
Actually came from a Red Sox fan who lives in Chicago. I always use the "Wrigley fans" vs. "baseball fans" when I get it from a Cubs person. But, more of when someone who likes baseball for baseball wondering why a winning team like the Sox can't draw a bigger crowd. I hate making the excuse that the park is harder to get to, but it's true.

I like some of your responses so far.

Well, the larger, more detailed response involves recounting a history of JR's love/hate relationship with Chicago, media trends over the past 30 years, and pricing demographics.

But the short answer is - The Sox have a smaller but more dedicated fan base. The Cubs have a bunch of fair-weather bandwagon jumpers who prefer getting drunk over watching a baseball game.

LVSoxFan
05-04-2005, 12:32 PM
Location is everything.

Had the new Sox park been on the lakefront, as it should have been, it would sell more seats than the Cubs (in good weather at least). Whether the team sucked or not.

PaleHoseGeorge
05-04-2005, 12:36 PM
Location is everything.

Had the new Sox park been on the lakefront, as it should have been, it would sell more seats than the Cubs (in good weather at least). Whether the team sucked or not.

The Urinal is just as close to the lakefront as Sox Park and will be filled with at least a third more fans than the Sox, in spite of all the fish living near the ballpark that Reinsdorf once infamously complained about. Lake Michigan's fish never buy tickets.

Sox Park is easier to get to than the Urinal. Please stop with this excuse. It doesn't hold water.
:redneck

daveeym
05-04-2005, 12:44 PM
wrigley would only have been a little over half full on a similar night. The tickets are sold but in crappy weather this early in the season people don't show up.

thepaulbowski
05-04-2005, 12:44 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence? I feel like I'm making excuses when I say it's cold weather. With our team winning like we are, I was hoping to see a better attendence last night.

I'm going to 9-10 games (hopefully a few more) this year, so not sure if I'm helping resolve the problem or contributing to it, but just don't know what to say to defend our lack of attendence.

Other than, it'll take a record like this in June to get big crowds.

I didn't realize we using attendance numbers, instead of wins, to measure performance. Who cares what some chump who probably doesn't know his a** from a hole in the ground thinks. Tell him it's easy to be a follower....

PatK
05-04-2005, 12:46 PM
I see the crowd in a game like last nights and feel like poop.

I wish I could be there, but I can only afford so many games a year, and the impromptu "let's go to the game" nights aren't going to happen while the kids are in school or have sports.

I'm starting to believe that there aren't nearly as many of us as we think.

maurice
05-04-2005, 12:47 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence?

It never bothers me to be in the minority, since most people are morons. What really matters is the play of the people on the field. Right now, the Sox are #1. Everything else is irrelevant.

tacosalbarojas
05-04-2005, 12:56 PM
I see the crowd in a game like last nights and feel like poop.

I wish I could be there, but I can only afford so many games a year, and the impromptu "let's go to the game" nights aren't going to happen while the kids are in school or have sports.

I'm starting to believe that there aren't nearly as many of us as we think.C'mon it was so cold last night. No stadium, not one in this city, would have been filled last night with that weather. I don't think there's any reason to feel bad for last night's attendance.

Fake Chet Lemon
05-04-2005, 12:59 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence? I feel like I'm making excuses when I say it's cold weather. With our team winning like we are, I was hoping to see a better attendence last night.

I'm going to 9-10 games (hopefully a few more) this year, so not sure if I'm helping resolve the problem or contributing to it, but just don't know what to say to defend our lack of attendence.

Other than, it'll take a record like this in June to get big crowds.


This always works for me. I say "Another typical know nothing about the game of baseball Cub fan. You'd rather talk about ivy, beer in the bleachers, yuppie bars and attendance. When you learn a little something about the game, come on back and talk to me. I'll be here when you want to actually talk BASEBALL. Go talk about ivy and that other crap walking, I've got no use for people who don't know THE GAME. I'm a Sox fan."

AZChiSoxFan
05-04-2005, 01:03 PM
Easy.Chicagoans only support losing baseball teams. In fact the Lovable Losers will bus them in from Iowa and easily clear 3 million, too.


Sox Fans like you and me are the only sensible baseball fans left, and we're vastly outnumbered by idiots.

That ought to work. It works because it's the truth, and the Chicago media is too scared to report it. They don't dare insult the majority of their paying audience.


Chicagoans are baseball idiots. The truth hurts. Now go blow up a cursed baseball, or a billygoat or something...


CLASSIC!!!

Uncle_Patrick
05-04-2005, 01:04 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence?

I'd say I'd be 1 of 20,000 people to see them win than 1 of 50,000 people to watch them lose. If talking to a Cubs fan, replace "watch them lose" with "not notice that there's a baseball game being played at the place I go to get drunk."

cheeses_h_rice
05-04-2005, 01:09 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence?

Just ask where the Flubs keep all their trophies for awesome attendance. It must be a pretty big display case, after all.

C-Dawg
05-04-2005, 01:50 PM
I forget who said it first (so I could give them proper credit) but it was posted earlier that at Wrigley Field every night 35,000 of the people there are still wondering when it will be Sammy's turn to bat.

LauraJ14
05-04-2005, 02:06 PM
The Urinal is just as close to the lakefront as Sox Park and will be filled with at least a third more fans than the Sox, in spite of all the fish living near the ballpark that Reinsdorf once infamously complained about. Lake Michigan's fish never buy tickets.

Sox Park is easier to get to than the Urinal. Please stop with this excuse. It doesn't hold water.
:redneck


Actually from where I live its easier to get to Wrigley than it is US Cellular, its easier to find parking at US Cellular though.

gosox41
05-04-2005, 02:36 PM
It was pretty chilly last nite, not exactly baseball weather.
The attendance suffered accordingly, but there was a definite VIBE
at the park last nite and of the people that were there, we sure sounded
like 40,000. One of the many reasons I think SOX fans are some of
the most loyal and vocal fans in baseball.


It was a great crowd last night seeing as how it was cold, KC was in town, and the Sox didn't look so good early in the game.



Bob

na_na_na_na
05-04-2005, 02:51 PM
The reason we don't draw as many fans as say the red sox is that the hardcore fans are split between two teams. The cubs then get the little extra bump from there popular drunken orgy they throw.

ChiSoxGirl
05-04-2005, 03:03 PM
I braved the wintry conditions of May 3rd and was part of the sparse crowd last night. But despite its sparseness, the paid 12,000+ or so that were there sounded like 35,000+- we were so energetic! Kudos to everyone who showed up last night. :bandance:

However, I would like to know what was up with the Yahoo out in left-center who chucked Sweeney's second homerun ball back onto the field! Myself and several in my section (145) were yelling because us intelligent people know that's a tradition reserved for The Shrine. If you don't want it, fine... but give it to a kid or something!


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White Sox Record with me in attendance: 2-0!

converted
05-04-2005, 03:19 PM
However, I would like to know what was up with the Yahoo out in left-center who chucked Sweeney's second homerun ball back onto the field! Myself and several in my section (145) were yelling because us intelligent people know that's a tradition reserved for The Shrine. If you don't want it, fine... but give it to a kid or something!







Yeah, I saw that yahoo too. But you should know that I also saw that yahoo get escorted out of the park. Now there was some cheering from me:rolleyes:

maurice
05-04-2005, 03:30 PM
It was pretty chilly last nite, not exactly baseball weather.
The attendance suffered accordingly, but there was a definite VIBE
at the park last nite and of the people that were there, we sure sounded
like 40,000. One of the many reasons I think SOX fans are some of
the most loyal and vocal fans in baseball.

Where's the gratuitous story about a trixie in a cub shirt?
:)

NorthlakeTom
05-04-2005, 03:32 PM
Hmmm...

I'd say those Cub fans must have a death wish. The team falling in the standings, and concrete falling on the fans. (I've lived outside of Chicago for decades, so I don't if they've fixed the problem. I heard they put up nets. Another appropriate metaphor.)

Back in the '70s we used to have someone drive us from Northlake to the El in Oak Park. We'd be at the game in minutes, and no worries about driving intoxicated. I realize this isn't a viable option for everybody, but the ballpark was very easy to get to.

LVSoxFan
05-04-2005, 03:37 PM
So wait, you get ejected for throwing a HR ball back onto the field?

Cool. I hate that idea creeping into the Cell because it's a Cubs idea through and through.

steff
05-04-2005, 04:56 PM
Just curious, what is the proper response when you get harrassed about your team's lack of attendence? I feel like I'm making excuses when I say it's cold weather. With our team winning like we are, I was hoping to see a better attendence last night.

I'm going to 9-10 games (hopefully a few more) this year, so not sure if I'm helping resolve the problem or contributing to it, but just don't know what to say to defend our lack of attendence.

Other than, it'll take a record like this in June to get big crowds.


Just state our record.. that should shut them up. :D: