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balke
04-26-2005, 12:25 AM
Jon Garland is cold as ice... in a good way.

elrod
04-26-2005, 12:26 AM
West Coast jinx is partially gone. WOW!

Nard
04-26-2005, 12:26 AM
He has officially retired the "Judy" nickname.

For now...

gobears1987
04-26-2005, 12:26 AM
Omg! Yessss

NSSoxFan
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
Keep it going!

GO SOX GO

SoxWillWin
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
OMFG!!!!! JG is definately not the same pitcher we saw last year.

ElDuque26
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
Pablo Ozuna is real exciting to watch and can play anywhere. I would love to see him play right and let JDye take a bit of a break and get out of his funk

itsnotrequired
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
Amazing job by Garland. Simply amazing. He (as well as the rest of the Sox starters) are getting a lot of love on BBTN right now.

Rocklive99
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
16-4, OMGGGGGGGG. What a great stretch of sports it's been lately

South Side
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
Wow... This feels great!
:bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

WikdChiSoxFan
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
"Goodnight" Garland...

Lookin' good!!!

DC Sox Fan
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
The chat room was off the hizzie. My ears are still ringing.

Hell of a win. Yeah, Garland.

Widger rules.

batmanZoSo
04-26-2005, 12:27 AM
How'd we do?

gobears1987
04-26-2005, 12:28 AM
When was the last time we were up 5 games?

oeo
04-26-2005, 12:28 AM
WOOOOHOOOOO! 16-4, this is AWESOME!

:bandance::supernana::bandance:

monkeypants
04-26-2005, 12:28 AM
:winner

mcfish
04-26-2005, 12:28 AM
Way to go Jon! He pitched amazingly well today. Fantastic effort.

And I'm sure it will get lost in all the much deserved Garland talk, so let me say thank you for a great game from Pablo Ozuna and nice clutch hitting by Chris Widger!

South Sider
04-26-2005, 12:29 AM
:winner


Great Game from Garland.
Right now he looks more like our number two starter than our 5th

Go Sox

:supernana: :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

owensmouth
04-26-2005, 12:29 AM
He has officially retired the "Judy" nickname.

For now...How about "the Judge"?

DC Sox Fan
04-26-2005, 12:29 AM
Any truth to the widespread rumors of Joe Crede's demise?

halfpricemonday
04-26-2005, 12:29 AM
Our 5th starter is 4-0 with a 4 hit complete game shutout.

Arnie Munoz, who?

Dare I say it...Jon Garland: 20 game winner?

Fake Chet Lemon
04-26-2005, 12:30 AM
Garland and Crede- rolling right along.

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 12:30 AM
Can you spell ACE, cause we may have 4 of a kind! What a hand!

Wait, make that 5, common Jose!

Alanzo XXXVIII
04-26-2005, 12:30 AM
What is the Sox' starting ERA after this game?

elrod
04-26-2005, 12:30 AM
Once again, this game showed how different this team was from prior years. Garland - Garland! - keeps the Sox in the game until the seventh and the Widger - Widger! - goes yard to put the Sox up. Then the rest of the guys start laying it on. The game completely changed when Widger hit that home run because Oakland could not touch Garland. This was a playoff-style win, folks. Pitcher's duel until one team breaks through. And then one team soars with confidence while the other one sulks.

Kogs35
04-26-2005, 12:30 AM
Whoo hooo 16-4 :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :gulp: :gulp: :gulp:

voodoochile
04-26-2005, 12:31 AM
:winner

You forgot something...

:twinslose

5 games and counting...

How about we win a couple of more games in April, just to make Radke happy? :supernana:

minastirith67
04-26-2005, 12:31 AM
This must be a dream...PHG was right in his preseason prediction of Garland being forced to shine as a 5th starter.

Keep it going Sox!!!

Cowch44
04-26-2005, 12:31 AM
I'm in a state of shock right now.:o:

HomeFish
04-26-2005, 12:31 AM
Wow. Widger the unlikely hero...and Konerko responding to some disrespect. Great two innings there.

mcfish
04-26-2005, 12:31 AM
Garland and Crede- rolling right along.I'm sure no one knows, but why did Crede get pulled? I hope it's just to get Timo in there because we were up 4-0 at the time.

SOX ADDICT '73
04-26-2005, 12:32 AM
Headlines in tomorrow's Cubune:
Nomar to have Groin-ectomy, should only miss two weeks!

Bulls play again tomorrow!

Sox #5 starter takes advantage of underachieving Oakland A's

SoxFan48
04-26-2005, 12:32 AM
Yes, a masterpiece. Is this Garland's first complete game shutout?

And a needed day of rest for our bullpen--they worked very hard and very effectively the final two days in KC.

tstrike2000
04-26-2005, 12:33 AM
Never thought I'd hear complete game shutout and Jon Garland ever again in the same sentence. The guy's a stud right now. With Dye not able to hit his way out of paper bag, another set of guys stepping up tonight like Widger and Ozuna. Plus Everett and Paulie getting a couple of rbi's tonight. Such a great team effort time surrounding Garland's awesome effort.

owensmouth
04-26-2005, 12:33 AM
Prediction: Within the next week or so, Mother Gammons is gonna announce that Garland has turned the corner and is now on his way to a 20 win season. Should Mark and Freddie do well, Gammons may admit that the Sox have the best young threesome in the American League.

ND_Sox_Fan
04-26-2005, 12:33 AM
This is the most fun I have had in a long time - I just can't wait for these games to start.

I am salavating over tomorrow night's matchup. It could break the record for fastest game in recorded history.

Jon - we didn't forget about you like the BBTN guys just did! Jon's the story here ... not how well Zito pitched for 6 innings. Jon did it for 9!!!!!

Fake Chet Lemon
04-26-2005, 12:33 AM
Each night we only need 1 hitter out of 9 to have a 2-3 RBI night, and we probably win. I love those odds. Unreal!

Epark84
04-26-2005, 12:33 AM
Headlines in tomorrow's Cubune:
Nomar to have Groin-ectomy, should only miss two weeks!

Bulls play again tomorrow!

Sox #5 starter takes advantage of underachieving Oakland A's

dont forget "bears introduce seventh round pick and undrafted FAs"

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 12:34 AM
Jon is now 4-0 with a 1.80 ERA, WOW!

WikdChiSoxFan
04-26-2005, 12:34 AM
Headlines in tomorrow's Cubune:
Nomar to have Groin-ectomy, should only miss two weeks!

Bulls play again tomorrow!

Sox #5 starter takes advantage of underachieving Oakland A's

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


SAD BUT TRUE...

beckett21
04-26-2005, 12:34 AM
:jon

Gimme some love people!

:supernana:

TaylorStSox
04-26-2005, 12:34 AM
Yes, a masterpiece. Is this Garland's first complete game shutout?

And a needed day of rest for our bullpen--they worked very hard and very effectively the final two days in KC.

I think he had one against the Yankees a couple years ago. Like I said before, we're just seeing what Garland's capable of. We've been patient with him and it's coming through. This is a kid that was brought up at 20 and learned how to pitch on the big league level. Hopefully, we can lock him up for a few more years.

Fake Chet Lemon
04-26-2005, 12:35 AM
Let's hope that intentional walk woke up Paulie.

ND_Sox_Fan
04-26-2005, 12:35 AM
I'm sure no one knows, but why did Crede get pulled? I hope it's just to get Timo in there because we were up 4-0 at the time.

He was limping around the bases the last time he got on. Hawk said that the trainer's room has been full the last few nights and some guys are knicked up.

markopat
04-26-2005, 12:36 AM
This Rocks! Great game by Garland tonight! Can it get better?

YEAH BABY!

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 12:36 AM
Joe hasn't had a day off for quite a while, I think that's why he was pulled.

SOX ADDICT '73
04-26-2005, 12:36 AM
Prediction: Within the next week or so, Mother Gammons is gonna announce that Garland has turned the corner and is now on his way to a 20 win season. Should Mark and Freddie do well, Gammons may admit that the Sox have the best young threesome in the American League.
I guess Gammons will be forced to delete some of the nude pictures of Joe Mauer from his hard drive to make room for Garland!

Whitesox029
04-26-2005, 12:36 AM
Let's hope that intentional walk woke up Paulie.
The icing on the cake was Hawk's call 1.5 seconds before the hit: "Take him right up the middle, Paulie."
:cool:
They wouldn't let me take JG as PTC at Soxtalk so I hope I win it here....

The Racehorse
04-26-2005, 12:37 AM
I could really get used to an .800 SOX winning percentage. :cool:
:kneeslap:
:supernana:

:)

faneidde
04-26-2005, 12:37 AM
Wow, great win. Ozuna is now officially my favorite player on the Sox until Thomas returns. And speaking of Thomas, once he comes back the team should be right on track for my 80-82 prediction and 3rd place finish in the division.

fan_since_64
04-26-2005, 12:37 AM
another win and certainly tomorrow more dissing of the pale hose from those knuckle heads at ESPN. so what! Go SOX!

santo=dorf
04-26-2005, 12:37 AM
.800 Baseball?!?!?

This is getting crazy. :D: :gulp:

Chisox003
04-26-2005, 12:37 AM
Who is this new Jon Garland, and what did he do with the old one? Who Cares!

He still has that cocky, lathargic look and additude to him, but when he's pitching like this, it doesnt bother me too much anymore....Who knew! What an outing, he dominated! Awesome job tonight by our NUMBER 5 GUY

Every win looks better and better....

S05X

TaylorStSox
04-26-2005, 12:38 AM
I guess Gammons will be forced to delete some of the nude pictures of Joe Mauer from his hard drive to make room for Garland!

Gammons was a huge Garland fan when he came up. Everyone was really. Except for the unforgiving Sox fans.

boiler up
04-26-2005, 12:38 AM
oh my

i feel sooo good right now

keep it up boys!

jabrch
04-26-2005, 12:38 AM
The icing on the cake was Hawk's call 1.5 seconds before the hit: "Take him right up the middle, Paulie."
:cool:


Yeah, Hawk was ALL OVER that one. Great call by Hawk. Thank goodness he is a better announcer than he is a GM.

elrod
04-26-2005, 12:38 AM
I don't know if he throws again this month but I think he'll be Pitcher of the Month.

ND_Sox_Fan
04-26-2005, 12:39 AM
Hawk's best call of the game: "You know Joey is going to send him!"

That as Ozuna rounded second and headed for home on Carl's double.

Epark84
04-26-2005, 12:39 AM
I don't know if he throws again this month but I think he'll be Pitcher of the Month.

him or the guy we are facing tomorrow...lets rough up harden and make it an easy choice

santo=dorf
04-26-2005, 12:40 AM
I don't know if he throws again this month but I think he'll be Pitcher of the Month.

Take a look at the guy who we are facing tomorrow.

SOX ADDICT '73
04-26-2005, 12:40 AM
As predicted, Swisher's catch was the #1 Web Gem, but like I said in the game thread, I'll take the WIN!!!

Jjav829
04-26-2005, 12:41 AM
Hawk's best call of the game: "You know Joey is going to send him!"

That as Ozuna rounded second and headed for home on Carl's double.

Nah. Hawk call of the game: "Huston Street comes on, and we'll be back. Go Bulls!" :D:

Just so random. I loved that.

Great game by Garland. :thumbsup:

Chisox003
04-26-2005, 12:41 AM
"The White Sox improved to 10-2 on the road -- their best start since the ``Go Go Sox'' did the same on the way to the AL pennant in 1959."

Hmm.....

S05X

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 12:42 AM
Yup, Mark is going to have to pitch another gem.

hose
04-26-2005, 12:43 AM
Big John was awesome tonight, glad to see the pen get a rest.:bandance:

ChiSoxGirl
04-26-2005, 12:43 AM
If the following are a dream, please don't bother to pinch me because I want this to last forever!

~ Garland is 4-0 and threw a complete game shutout.
~ We won in Oakland.
~ We had a shutout...in Oakland.
~ Pablo Ozuna & Chris Widger were clutch tonight and picked up the scuffling guys.
~ The heart of our lineup is slumping, and we're STILL 16-4!
~ We're atop the A.L. Central by 5 games. Eat that, Minnesota!

And I'm giving one dancing banana for each highlight listed above!

:bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

I'm lovin' it all! :gulp:

SoxFan78
04-26-2005, 12:43 AM
Unbelievable!!! Thats all I can say. Our #5 pitcher is 4-0. Can you believe it? And once our 3-5 hitters all start getting on the same page, un-stoppable. Our defense is solid, our pitching is solid, our hitting is our only weak point, and thats not even that bad.

Great win tonight without AJ, Pods and Frank Thomas!

SOX ADDICT '73
04-26-2005, 12:44 AM
Getting lost in the (totally deserved) Garland-love: Uribe's unbelievable defense tonight - that guy is fearless!

jabrch
04-26-2005, 12:44 AM
Hawk's best call of the game: "You know Joey is going to send him!"

That as Ozuna rounded second and headed for home on Carl's double.

And he was dead to rights if the cutoff man made a better throw.

A. Cavatica
04-26-2005, 12:45 AM
How is this only an 81 Game Score on ESPN? Still, it ties with a Halladay start (9 5 1 1 1 9) for third in the league this season, behind two Buehrle starts.

balke
04-26-2005, 12:45 AM
Some of the pitches towards the end of the game from Garland were nothing short of FILTHY! The ball at one point was at the from of the plate chin high on the ump, and dropped all the way through the zone for a nasty whiff and a strike by the batter. The ball was disappearing for him all night. I love what I saw out of JG, and he went deep, giving the BP a much needed rest!

rwcescato
04-26-2005, 12:45 AM
16-4, OMGGGGGGGG. What a great stretch of sports it's been lately

Its been an unbelieveable run. Lets keep it going. The more we gain on the Twins the better. John Garland has become a pitcher. Maybe we will make the headlines in the paper today. On second thought we are flying under the radar in our own town. I guess its better that way.
Rich:supernana:

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 12:46 AM
On a side note... I turned to ESPN Baseball Tonight right after the game ended... You know how they usually go right to the game that just ended.

Well, NOTHING. I watched the last 10 minutes of Baseball Tonight and guess what... NOTHING.

I was a fool for expecting some sort of coverage.

Soxzilla
04-26-2005, 12:46 AM
Garland still not good enough for BBTN's tonite best, though.:rolleyes:

fan_since_64
04-26-2005, 12:46 AM
maybe the Sox should invite Brantley to be guest of honor at Mullet night on September 2nd :D:

owensmouth
04-26-2005, 12:47 AM
The Cubs pitchers are doing great. Garland/Moyer/Willis/Lieber all 4-0

ilsox7
04-26-2005, 12:47 AM
On a side note... I turned to ESPN Baseball Tonight right after the game ended... You know how they usually go right to the game that just ended.

Well, NOTHING. I watched the last 10 minutes of Baseball Tonight and guess what... NOTHING.

I was a fool for expecting some sort of coverage.

They covered the game in the top of the 9th and actually did an extensive highlites package for Zito and then all 5 Sox pitchers, showing highlites fro mthe whole season.

beckett21
04-26-2005, 12:48 AM
On a side note... I turned to ESPN Baseball Tonight right after the game ended... You know how they usually go right to the game that just ended.

Well, NOTHING. I watched the last 10 minutes of Baseball Tonight and guess what... NOTHING.

I was a fool for expecting some sort of coverage.

You need to break yourself of that Pavlovian reflex. ESPN is worthless.

Say it with me...

:whocares


:supernana:

Shorty1983
04-26-2005, 12:49 AM
Wow I can't believe just nearly a month ago before the season start. There was all this talk about bringing B-Mac up to the majors and dumping Garland.

I never liked the old Jon Garland, I like new Jon Garland wayyyy better! :D:
.800 ball feels like a great, ride this mofo as long as you can. Wooohooo!

halfpricemonday
04-26-2005, 12:49 AM
Start up the bandwagon!

From the Cubune:

The Sox have received a boost in ticket sales as the result of their recent surge.

The ticket office reported that it sold 10,000 tickets last weekend, an increase from 4,000 that were sold the previous weekend when the team was starting a five-game homestand.

The Sox also had 10 people working in the ticket office last weekend to meet the demands. They usually have three people working in advance sales on weekends.

So I guess we will be explaining the DH to a few more visitors to Comiskey, huh?

Realist
04-26-2005, 12:49 AM
Anybody know when the last time the Sox had an 8 gaming winning streak was?

owensmouth
04-26-2005, 12:52 AM
Who do we face in the second half of the month? (You know, April 31st thru April 61st).

flo-B-flo
04-26-2005, 12:53 AM
I guess Gammons will be forced to delete some of the nude pictures of Joe Mauer from his hard drive to make room for Garland!:roflmao:

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 12:53 AM
Would love to see Ozzie die his hair blond, wonder what that would take...

kojak
04-26-2005, 12:53 AM
Garland is pitching like a Top of the Rotation guy!

Shhhhhh! Let him keep thinking he is the #5 starter.....

chisox06
04-26-2005, 12:54 AM
Anybody know when the last time the Sox had an 8 gaming winning streak was?

April 18-24th, 2005. :cool:

I thought the sox had a 9 game winning streak back in 2000, could be wrong though.

Yorke97
04-26-2005, 12:55 AM
All I gotta say is "Don't pinch me!"

:supernana:
:supernana:
:supernana:
:supernana:

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 12:57 AM
Anybody know when the last time the Sox had an 8 gaming winning streak was?

"In 1906 the Sox rode a 19-game winning streak to the pennant title and shocked the heavily favored crosstown Cubs in the Series, four games to two."

I'll take 19, but there is no way the scrubs will be there with us.

voodoochile
04-26-2005, 12:58 AM
Anybody know when the last time the Sox had an 8 gaming winning streak was?

When Hawk shaved his head, no?

Johnny Mostil
04-26-2005, 12:58 AM
Start up the bandwagon!

From the Cubune:



So I guess we will be explaining the DH to a few more visitors to Comiskey, huh?

I admit to being one. And itt looks as if 13-game ticket packages are still on sale . . .

Unregistered
04-26-2005, 12:59 AM
Talk about quick scoring in bunches! I went to make some tea - and by the time I came back with the hot water and dropped in the teabag, the Sox had scored another pair!

:bandance:

ChiSox7
04-26-2005, 01:00 AM
Talk about quick scoring in bunches! I went to make some tea - and by the time I came back with the hot water and dropped in the teabag, the Sox had scored another pair!

:bandance:

Seriously tho, Awesome game!

SluggersAway
04-26-2005, 01:00 AM
Thankfully, the A's were wet as a teabag as they haven't scored in 22 innings; their longest streak in three years.

Thanks Garland, thanks Widger, one helluva win!

batmanZoSo
04-26-2005, 01:03 AM
Thankfully, the A's were wet as a teabag as they haven't scored in 22 innings; their longest streak in three years.

Thanks Garland, thanks Widger, one helluva win!

:hawk
Your what hurts?

Tragg
04-26-2005, 01:03 AM
Gammons was a huge Garland fan when he came up. Everyone was really. Except for the unforgiving Sox fans.

Yes he was. (How's Matt Karchner these days?)
And Garland hasn't been terrible in several seasons.
But this is unreal.

Actually, Matt did great for us - pitched his a$$ off as the closer for the rest of the season after white flag.

skobabe8
04-26-2005, 01:04 AM
feels real good to beat down the A's. this is the team i've wanted BAD. remember their fansite? pretty nasty.

slavko
04-26-2005, 01:04 AM
Getting lost in the (totally deserved) Garland-love: Uribe's unbelievable defense tonight - that guy is fearless!
Lordy, can he pick it. And has a cannon to go with it. Lets see some Vizquel posters.

flo-B-flo
04-26-2005, 01:06 AM
How is this only an 81 Game Score on ESPN? Still, it ties with a Halladay start (9 5 1 1 1 9) for third in the league this season, behind two Buehrle starts.**** Espn. We are under the radar. They don't care about great baseball stories like our start. They want the springerlike Blosox and the rays pushathon. Doesn't matter if the sports icon is following the Sox. Under the radar. GO-GO SOX!!!! Sorry about the c******.

Shoeless Joe
04-26-2005, 01:06 AM
What a surprise, the Sox win again! :D:

Being a Bulls and Sox fan, life just doesn't get any better than this. Zito gives up the bomb by Widger and Garland keeps his insane ERA going. Another White Sox winner just reinforces my belief in the Sox this year. We lead the Twins by five games and I hope that continues.

A. Cavatica
04-26-2005, 01:10 AM
**** Espn. We are under the radar. They don't care about great baseball stories like our start. They want the springerlike Blosox and the rays pushathon. Doesn't matter if the sports icon is following the Sox. Under the radar. GO-GO SOX!!!! Sorry about the c******.

Have another! :gulp:

Seriously, I think the Game Score is computed by a formula. I don't think there's any ESPN bias involved. But I'll take a four-hit shutout over a five-hitter with 1 ER any day, even if Halladay did strike out a few more batters.

Kogs35
04-26-2005, 01:11 AM
Widger to be on espn radio on all night with todd wright sometime tonight.

Tragg
04-26-2005, 01:11 AM
**** Espn. We are under the radar. They don't care about great baseball stories like our start. They want the springerlike Blosox and the rays pushathon. Doesn't matter if the sports icon is following the Sox. Under the radar. GO-GO SOX!!!! Sorry about the c******.

ESPN hyped yanks/bosox all offseason as all that matters in baseball. They won't give it up this soon.
And of course when your predictions were somewhere between 4th/72 wins and 2nd (except for Neyer) acceptance will be slow.
Screw them.
Let them keep spreading the word about the cubs-twins world series.

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 01:11 AM
Just caught this on MLB.com

"For any doubters still remaining concerning the legitimacy of the White Sox start, a win in Oakland should silence them quickly. Since posting a 6-3 record against the A's in 2000, the White Sox entered Monday with a 9-27 record against Oakland and a 2-16 record at the Coliseum."

by Scott Merkin

ilsox7
04-26-2005, 01:11 AM
Have another! :gulp:

Seriously, I think the Game Score is computed by a formula. I don't think there's any ESPN bias involved. But I'll take a four-hit shutout over a five-hitter with 1 ER any day, even if Halladay did strike out a few more batters.

This is why all that stat crap is just that, crap.

brewcrew/chisox
04-26-2005, 01:11 AM
another great win......man this team is easy to like

A. Cavatica
04-26-2005, 01:12 AM
:tomatoaward

balke
04-26-2005, 01:13 AM
So who's the whipping boy today?

TaylorStSox
04-26-2005, 01:13 AM
Yes he was. (How's Matt Karchner these days?)
And Garland hasn't been terrible in several seasons.
But this is unreal.

Actually, Matt did great for us - pitched his a$$ off as the closer for the rest of the season after white flag.

I think Garland's development is right on par with what we should have expected. There aren't alot of pitchers who come up at 20 and are dominant. I can think of a couple exceptions. Willis - Physical freak with a funky LH motion. Beckett - unbelievable stuff with a 98MPH fastball.

JG's always had unreal stuff, the best on the team sans maybe Contreras. It was just a matter of time before he learned how to pitch. I'm glad it's for us.

soxfan123
04-26-2005, 01:16 AM
I must say, after reading numerous threads of biased analysis of the White Sox on WSI, this is the first time that I have felt legitimately confident with our team in terms of knowing that we should expect a win every day we take the field. The reason is that, as Hawk has pointed out numerous times, our 3-4-5-6 hitters are batting like they don't exist and yet we still prevail. Last year, at best, we would be 10-10. And to top it off, we beat our greatest foes of all: the west coast. Now, it's April. Barring injury bugs, I feel, as many do on this site, that the Sox have officially proven to themselves, the media, and the Chicago faithful that they are for real, that Kenny Williams truly built a ballclub with a magnitude of authority. When was the last time you have a seen a team of any city at any time in the last three years be in this much command of their team? This is, truly, what being a loyal fan is all about. How sweet it is...

Keep it goin', JG!

AJPosguchi
04-26-2005, 01:17 AM
They just posted the Cy Predictor update on ESPN.com... Check this out:


2005 Cy Young Predictor - American League
RK PLAYER CYP G GS IP ER K SV SHO W-L ERA VB
1 Jamie Moyer (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3932), Sea 37.7 5 5 32.0 9 23 0 0 4-0 2.53 3
2 Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525), CWS 28.8 4 4 31.0 9 23 0 0 3-1 2.61 3
3 Bartolo Colon (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5763), LAA 27.7 4 4 27.2 8 20 0 0 3-1 2.60 3
4 Scot Shields (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6730), LAA 27.3 10 0 12.1 2 13 1 0 3-1 1.46 3
5 Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396), CWS 27.0 4 4 30.0 6 11 0 0 4-0 1.80 3

elrod
04-26-2005, 01:18 AM
Something has to give tomorrow. Harden has not allowed a run in two games. The A's have not scored a run in two games. So unless Buehrle and Harden go shutout for shutout through 9, something will give. Tomorrow will be the toughest game of the trip because of how well Harden is throwing. I have faith in Buehrle, but he'll need some support.

Tragg
04-26-2005, 01:18 AM
I wish WGN would put the games on more often than once a month. I haven't seen us play since the last game at the twinkiedome. It's ridiculous. Everybody's talking about how great our SS and 2B are playing defensively - I love baseball defense and I'd like to see it.
I think a mid-season major change in scheduling is due from WGN.

StillMissOzzie
04-26-2005, 01:19 AM
:jon

"That's Mr. Garland to you, bitches!"

pickingleaves20
04-26-2005, 01:21 AM
They just posted the Cy Predictor update on ESPN.com... Check this out:


2005 Cy Young Predictor - American LeagueRKPLAYERCYPGGSIPERKSVSHOW-LERAVB1Jamie Moyer (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3932), Sea37.75532.0923004-02.5332Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525), CWS28.84431.0923003-12.6133Bartolo Colon (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5763), LAA27.74427.2820003-12.6034Scot Shields (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6730), LAA27.310012.1213103-11.4635Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396), CWS27.04430.0611004-01.803


If Jon wins the Cy Young, I'll die HAPPY!

santo=dorf
04-26-2005, 01:26 AM
I love Rotoworld's comment:

Jon Garland pitched his second career shutout tonight against the A's. He gave up four hits -- a double and three singles.
By start, Garland has pitches six, seven, eight and nine innings and allowed three, two, one and zero runs. It's going to hard for him to progress further, as we can't imagine any team except for maybe the Royals scoring negative runs in a game. Feel free to pick up Garland in your mixed league if he's still available. Just remember that he's never failed to disappoint when seemingly on his way to becoming more than a fourth starter.

DaleJRFan
04-26-2005, 01:26 AM
He was limping around the bases the last time he got on. Hawk said that the trainer's room has been full the last few nights and some guys are knicked up.

Crede's a gamer, he'll be back. If he needs rest, we got Ozuna to fill in. What a great feeling confident in the backups. Let this "crazy train keep" on rollin'....

SOX ADDICT '73
04-26-2005, 01:28 AM
Don't know if this was already posted, but someone was asking:

According to SC, the Sox team ERA is 2.97

I don't know specifically about starters, though.

DaleJRFan
04-26-2005, 01:31 AM
Something has to give tomorrow. Harden has not allowed a run in two games. The A's have not scored a run in two games. So unless Buehrle and Harden go shutout for shutout through 9, something will give. Tomorrow will be the toughest game of the trip because of how well Harden is throwing. I have faith in Buehrle, but he'll need some support.

Yet another awesome matchup to look forward to. Zito vs Garland and now Buehrle vs Harden.

Amyone notice the fans booing Dye when he came up. Why? Do the Oakland fans suck that much that they boo a guy who played his butt off for years there? Maybe because he was earning a bunch and not living up to his contract??? I thought it was pretty lame.

jabrch
04-26-2005, 01:32 AM
Something has to give tomorrow. Harden has not allowed a run in two games. The A's have not scored a run in two games. So unless Buehrle and Harden go shutout for shutout through 9, something will give. Tomorrow will be the toughest game of the trip because of how well Harden is throwing. I have faith in Buehrle, but he'll need some support.

Given that Oakland is absolutely TERRIBLE vs lefties, I think all Buehrle will need is one or two runs. Harden is tough - but I hope we can manufacture those few runs that Mark will need.

elrod
04-26-2005, 01:33 AM
Sox starters' ERA is now 2.69

jabrch
04-26-2005, 01:34 AM
Yet another awesome matchup to look forward to. Zito vs Garland and now Buehrle vs Harden.

Amyone notice the fans booing Dye when he came up. Why? Do the Oakland fans suck that much that they boo a guy who played his butt off for years there? Maybe because he was earning a bunch and not living up to his contract??? I thought it was pretty lame.

The Oakland fans really hate the fact that Beane has hardly ever had any success signing FAs to decent $ contracts, or even trading for more expensive players. He's a decent college scout - but he has shown little success with major league players. They spent a lot of money on Dye, and got very little productivity. The Raiders Fans in Drag, AKA As Fans, are hard on Dye for that reason. Same reason they are going to soon be tough on Kendall.

santo=dorf
04-26-2005, 01:34 AM
Don't know if this was already posted, but someone was asking:

According to SC, the Sox team ERA is 2.97

I don't know specifically about starters, though.

Our Starters have an ERA of 2.65, a WHIP of 1.10 and have allowed 105 hits in 132.2 IP. :supernana:

CleeFan101
04-26-2005, 01:40 AM
The Oakland fans really hate the fact that Beane has hardly ever had any success signing FAs to decent $ contracts, or even trading for more expensive players. He's a decent college scout - but he has shown little success with major league players. They spent a lot of money on Dye, and got very little productivity. The Raiders Fans in Drag, AKA As Fans, are hard on Dye for that reason. Same reason they are going to soon be tough on Kendall.

Id say Beane is good in dealing with guys that havent been successfull and than he knows talent in young guys when he see's it... look at Harden, Blanton, and than trading for Haren who have all been really good this year. Than getting guys like Hatteburg and Kotsay who were underapreciated b4 Oakland.

But he is not good at making contracts...

balke
04-26-2005, 01:40 AM
The Oakland fans really hate the fact that Beane has hardly ever had any success signing FAs to decent $ contracts, or even trading for more expensive players. He's a decent college scout - but he has shown little success with major league players. They spent a lot of money on Dye, and got very little productivity. The Raiders Fans in Drag, AKA As Fans, are hard on Dye for that reason. Same reason they are going to soon be tough on Kendall.

Whatever happened to that Tejada guy?

SOX ADDICT '73
04-26-2005, 01:41 AM
:hawk "Balance."

SOX ADDICT '73
04-26-2005, 01:54 AM
I'm forgetting what it feels like to lose. :?:

SoxxoS
04-26-2005, 01:55 AM
While I am hoping the Sox staff ERA ends the season at 2.96...that likely isn't possible. What I take solice in is that Jermaine Dye, Rowand and Konerko aren't going to be hitting like The Choice for that much longer either...that should offset nicely. :bandance:

Oh yeah, and that guy that wears #35 might come back eventually...

seanpmurphy
04-26-2005, 02:05 AM
Our Starters have an ERA of 2.65, a WHIP of 1.10 and have allowed 105 hits in 132.2 IP. :supernana:

SUCK IT ESPN!

Lip Man 1
04-26-2005, 02:06 AM
Absolutely incredible. Garland actually looks like a pitcher but more importantly looks like he gives a damn. (Maybe it's the fact that his deal is up after 2006?) Whatever the reason I'll take it.

Lip

FoulkeTheIndians
04-26-2005, 02:13 AM
Just got back from the game. I'm starting to love this team more and more every game. It seems like a new person steps up every game, we're never too reliant on any one player.

JG looked great, nothing more I can say about that. He is really starting to establish himself as a very quality pitcher.

Ozuna is a super-man utility guy. He can do it all; play all over the field, hit, and run the bases. I like this guy a lot.

Also, lost in all the Jon Garland talk was Juan Uribe's defense tonight. OUTSTANDING. He made a few balls that I thought were for-sure base hits look like easy outs.

Finally, we won in Oakland. God it feels good to say that. Tomorrow's match up is gonna be great, but if we take that one I think we're gonna be looking at a sweep folks. Wow, we could come out of Oakland with more wins in 3 days than we had in 4 years. Did I mention how much I love this team?

ilsox7
04-26-2005, 02:14 AM
Just got back from the game. I'm starting to love this team more and more every game. It seems like a new person steps up every game, we're never too reliant on any one player.

JG looked great, nothing more I can say about that. He is really starting to establish himself as a very quality pitcher.

Ozone is a super-man utility guy. He can do it all, play all over the field, hit, and run the bases. I like this guy a lot.

Also, lost in all the Jon Garland talk was Juan Urine's defense tonight. OUTSTANDING. He made a few balls that I thought were for-sure base hits look like easy outs.

Finally, we won in Oakland. God it feels good to say that. Tomorrow's match up is gonna be great, but if we take that one I think we're gonna be looking at a sweep folks. Wow, we could come out of Oakland with more wins in 3 days than we had in 4 years. Did I mention how much I love this team?

Now that's a bad typo!

FoulkeTheIndians
04-26-2005, 02:17 AM
Haha Sorry, the spell-check automatically changed it for me. I noticed it about a second after I made the post. It'll never happen again, trust me!

ilsox7
04-26-2005, 02:18 AM
Haha Sorry, the spell-check automatically changed it for me. I noticed it about a second after I made the post. It'll never happen again, trust me!

I just found it completely ironic given the context. Great stuff!

TomParrish79
04-26-2005, 02:37 AM
:jon

"That's Mr. Garland to you, bitches!"


That and the Jeff Brantley being invited to Mullet Night are tied for best posts of the night.



Great win by the Sox tonite, Jon pitched one hell of a game and congrats to him on his complete game shutout, and I cant wait for the game tomorrow night, I love watching Buehrle pitch.

batmanZoSo
04-26-2005, 02:45 AM
Absolutely incredible. Garland actually looks like a pitcher but more importantly looks like he gives a damn. (Maybe it's the fact that his deal is up after 2006?) Whatever the reason I'll take it.

Lip

Jesus.

owensmouth
04-26-2005, 02:57 AM
Absolutely incredible. Garland actually looks like a pitcher but more importantly looks like he gives a damn. (Maybe it's the fact that his deal is up after 2006?) Whatever the reason I'll take it.

LipHe's probably beginning to think he needs a new agent. Wonder who that might be?

Mohoney
04-26-2005, 03:04 AM
Maybe I'm wrong, but if Jon Garland was a Chicago Cub, he would be a Cy Young favorite right now.

Going back to the preseason start at Miller Park, this guy has completely taken control of every game he has pitched for 5 outings in a row. That shows me that this isn't a fluke.

I know that he was definitely on the ropes in the 6th inning in that game against Radke, but the fact that he got out of it neutralizes that Shannon Stewart home run in the 5th, which I think should be blamed on whoever called for a 4th inside pitch in a row. Stewart was cheating on that pitch, and you're asking a guy to hit his spot on 4 great inside pitches in a row, which is just plain unfair to ask of somebody that's not named Roger Clemens.

The bottom line is this. This guy's stuff is, by far, the best that it's ever been. This guy's command is, by far, the best that it's ever been. 3 games might be a fluke, but 5 games in a row shows me that this is going to be a rule rather than an exception.

Garland's performance tonight has instilled in me a confidence that we can very well have a chance to win every time he takes the mound. I'm completely sold on this guy's sinker.

DMarte708
04-26-2005, 03:49 AM
:fobbgod:
"You've had your moment of glory Sox fans. But just remember, I'm invincible in this office. Any and every move I make is justified by my unrelenting disciples. They'll do anything to grasp the methods of my teachings. And afterwards, they'll become just as arrogant and condescending as I am."

mealfred13
04-26-2005, 08:17 AM
I love Rotoworld's comment:

Jon Garland pitched his second career shutout tonight against the A's. He gave up four hits -- a double and three singles.
By start, Garland has pitches six, seven, eight and nine innings and allowed three, two, one and zero runs. It's going to hard for him to progress further, as we can't imagine any team except for maybe the Royals scoring negative runs in a game. Feel free to pick up Garland in your mixed league if he's still available. Just remember that he's never failed to disappoint when seemingly on his way to becoming more than a fourth starter.

Yeah, my friend and I were talking about this online after the game. Garland has gone an inning deeper into each game and given up less and less runs, to 0 tonight. We joked that he would have to take an at-bat and drive in some runs, while pitching an extra-innings shutout if he wants to improve any further. The funniest part is, I wouldn't be surprised if he did....:bandance:

Baby Fisk
04-26-2005, 09:49 AM
OMG!

I luv these all-new "Winning-Hitless-Smartball-Go-Go-Sox!"

...who STILL REMAIN under the radar! :o:

The only way I can react is to drop to my knees and pound the floor with my fists, laughing like the insane, because I'm so unused to this.

:roflmao:

Our 5th starter is on pace to win 20+ games! :roflmao:

We go to Oakland, toy with Zito, then someone named Widger crushes his spirits! :roflmao:

Best start in franchise history! :roflmao:

Winning games seemingly AT WILL while the middle of the order struggles. :roflmao:

Ozuna, Uribe, Garland?! Seriously, WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?! :roflmao:

Ol' No. 2
04-26-2005, 09:57 AM
Let's see...The Sox are 16-4...Rockhead is 4-0 in four starts...the offensive heroes the last two days were Pablo Ozuna and Chris Widger...and all with the middle of the lineup completely MIA...there's only one explanation for this...

:bong: I just hope I don't run out before the end of the season.

LVSoxFan
04-26-2005, 10:28 AM
LOL.

Well I will take every win in Oakland or Minnesota that we can get. Last night was especially sweet, seeing that Garland shut them out and we lit them up for six when it seemed Zito was going to blank us.

Tonight's going to be tough, pitching-wise.

Maybe with so many new guys, they don't care about the Oakland curse. Who knows?

As for our low offensive numbers, I'm not worried because you know that's going to heat up. I'd rather see it mid-season and down the stretch than the stellar first half/then bust of last year.

Go Sox!

surfdudes
04-26-2005, 11:35 AM
I'm going to join Alcoholics Anonymous today. I just got home from the bar, and I thought I heard that Garland pitched a shut out on the west coast against the A's. Thats it! No more Tequila.....

TaylorStSox
04-26-2005, 01:24 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but if Jon Garland was a Chicago Cub, he would be a Cy Young favorite right now.

Going back to the preseason start at Miller Park, this guy has completely taken control of every game he has pitched for 5 outings in a row. That shows me that this isn't a fluke.

I know that he was definitely on the ropes in the 6th inning in that game against Radke, but the fact that he got out of it neutralizes that Shannon Stewart home run in the 5th, which I think should be blamed on whoever called for a 4th inside pitch in a row. Stewart was cheating on that pitch, and you're asking a guy to hit his spot on 4 great inside pitches in a row, which is just plain unfair to ask of somebody that's not named Roger Clemens.

The bottom line is this. This guy's stuff is, by far, the best that it's ever been. This guy's command is, by far, the best that it's ever been. 3 games might be a fluke, but 5 games in a row shows me that this is going to be a rule rather than an exception.

Garland's performance tonight has instilled in me a confidence that we can very well have a chance to win every time he takes the mound. I'm completely sold on this guy's sinker.

The scary part is that his stuff isn't the best it's ever been. His change looks much better but his curve is non existant. Remember when he came up? He had a nasty hammer.

owensmouth
04-26-2005, 01:34 PM
OMG!

I luv these all-new "Winning-Hitless-Smartball-Go-Go-Sox!"

...who STILL REMAIN under the radar! :o:

The only way I can react is to drop to my knees and pound the floor with my fists, laughing like the insane, because I'm so unused to this.

:roflmao:

Our 5th starter is on pace to win 20+ games! :roflmao:

We go to Oakland, toy with Zito, then someone named Widger crushes his spirits! :roflmao:

Best start in franchise history! :roflmao:

Winning games seemingly AT WILL while the middle of the order struggles. :roflmao:

Ozuna, Uribe, Garland?! Seriously, WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?! :roflmao:Our 3d starter is on a pace to go winless...

voodoochile
04-26-2005, 01:40 PM
Our 3d starter is on a pace to go winless...

There's one in every crowd...:?::rolleyes:

batmanZoSo
04-26-2005, 01:47 PM
OMG!

I luv these all-new "Winning-Hitless-Smartball-Go-Go-Sox!"

...who STILL REMAIN under the radar! :o:

The only way I can react is to drop to my knees and pound the floor with my fists, laughing like the insane, because I'm so unused to this.

:roflmao:

Our 5th starter is on pace to win 20+ games! :roflmao:

We go to Oakland, toy with Zito, then someone named Widger crushes his spirits! :roflmao:

Best start in franchise history! :roflmao:

Winning games seemingly AT WILL while the middle of the order struggles. :roflmao:

Ozuna, Uribe, Garland?! Seriously, WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?! :roflmao:

Another sign that this is our year: Widger's homer was his first in 5 years.

This is the kind of crap that always happens to us.

Baby Fisk
04-26-2005, 02:06 PM
There's one in every crowd...:?::rolleyes:

I was confused because it wasn't posted by Homefish. Where's that Eeyore tag?

FarWestChicago
04-26-2005, 09:15 PM
There's one in every crowd...:?::rolleyes:That guy has a serious problem. Of course, anybody who want to be the new Head FOLIP has serious issues. :rolleyes:

samram
04-26-2005, 09:23 PM
Our 3d starter is on a pace to go winless...

Of course, they've won 3 of his 4 starts, but you choose to ignore that.

MUsoxfan
04-27-2005, 02:09 AM
I just got home, and without reading this thread I want to say that Willie Harris would look REALLY good in Great Falls jersey next week. That way the rookies can teach him how to field routine ground balls. He's f'd up on two consecutive ROUTINE ground balls.

Hangar18
04-27-2005, 09:57 AM
what is FOBB?? I know FOJR is friends of jerry rein$dorf ........

balke
04-27-2005, 10:42 AM
what is FOBB?? I know FOJR is friends of jerry rein$dorf ........
I thought that was Friends of Jeremy Reed, haha :tongue: