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SoxEd
04-19-2005, 07:46 PM
I have a question about the media coverage of last night's game...

On the Game Thread last night I read that some schmuck in full Cubbie regalia threw back Carl's first Homer ball in the bottom of the 1st.

My question is this:
Has the media picked up on this and, if so, has it been reported as an example of:
a) what a bunch of rowdy bums Sox fans are, and how dangerous and unsavoury a place USCF is to watch a ball game, or;

b) what a lousy, stupid (drunken?) jerk the guy in question is, and actually he's a fan of the Other team in Chicago?

I would personally expect that it's been ignored, as there's no way the Trib or its fellow-travellers can make the Sox look bad without also implicating the Cubs, whose fan he is.

(Man, I'm starting to sound like Hangar, aren't I?)

Actually, I'd also like to know whether he got tossed from the park after the incident.

robertks61
04-19-2005, 07:58 PM
I saw it but couldn't tell what team hat he had on. I hope they threw him out of the park!

SouthSide4Life
04-19-2005, 08:01 PM
I actually meant to post this thread yesterday but when i got home from the game i was dead-tired. Anyways, for those of you @ the game last night who saw the 2 incidents of the ball being thrown back on the field? when i witnessed that rubbish i was disgusted. of course this can be expected on damn half price night, which is down right sad. i didnt catch if anyone was escorted out or anythin. well thats my first whine. secondly i have noticed that half price nights sure bring out a lot of goons who wouldnt be there if tix werent half off. some of these "fans" are downright jags. i can remember when people would talk about the good ole days when every baseball game was a family outing, somethin to take the kiddies to. now we have morons swearing, throwing, fighting. while i was sittin in my lower reserved seat last night there was a family who came to watch a baseball game. they decided to call it quits after the 3rd inn because of all the goons in my section. all im sayin is that stuff isnt what it used to be

Jurr
04-19-2005, 08:03 PM
Yeah...there has been an enormous thread talking about this all day today. Half price night brings the jagbags out in full force. It's a shame, but that's a necessary evil of packing the house.

Acid
04-19-2005, 08:08 PM
Throwing the ball back is not a White Sox tradition! Sox fans do NOT do this. When I see it at our games I feel shame knowing that other teams fans are lumping us in with cub fans. Act like a human, not a animal. 1/2 night + beer = fools

DrCrawdad
04-19-2005, 10:08 PM
I saw it but couldn't tell what team hat he had on. I hope they threw him out of the park!

I hope the guy was given a lesson about that type of asinine behaviour.

I want Mags back
04-19-2005, 10:28 PM
One guy who thru one was wearing a 1914 flubbies hat.
His friend next to him had a flubs jersey

So thats why those *******s threw them back

stillz
04-19-2005, 10:47 PM
I'm right there on this one. It's truly disheartening to hear curse-laden threats hurled at a fan because he's reluctant to throw back a home run ball. Utter nonsense.

The Sat-Sun crowds have a bit more class on the whole.

SouthSide4Life
04-19-2005, 10:51 PM
I'm right there on this one. It's truly disheartening to hear curse-laden threats hurled at a fan because he's reluctant to throw back a home run ball. Utter nonsense.

The Sat-Sun crowds have a bit more class on the whole.i agree 110%, those will be the future games that ill be attending

Epark84
04-19-2005, 11:02 PM
if people throw balls back at comiskey they should have to leave. That is a bleeping cub tradition, that has made its way around most of the league. No real sox fan would ever throw the oppositions ball back. give it to a kid or something, but dont ever throw it back.

JB98
04-19-2005, 11:02 PM
I've been saying for quite awhile now that the Sox should get rid of half-price night. On paper, it's a nice idea that would draw families into the park. Instead, it draws drunks, Cubs fans and other idiots who make the game an unpleasant experience.

SouthSide4Life
04-19-2005, 11:03 PM
i was @ the game but i didnt see him being escorted out. jags like that guy should be banned for LIFE... ****in' flubbie

SouthSide4Life
04-19-2005, 11:05 PM
in response to the 2 above statements i agree completly. i mean this is ridiculous

Whitesox029
04-19-2005, 11:25 PM
Half-price tickets should equal double priced beer. You might think that would drive people away but it might actually bring the families out more.

soxwon
04-19-2005, 11:26 PM
tommorows cubune headlines

CUBS BOMB CINCY 7-1

Sox barely sweep Twins!!!

Uncle_Patrick
04-19-2005, 11:28 PM
One guy who thru one was wearing a 1914 flubbies hat.
His friend next to him had a flubs jersey

So thats why those *******s threw them back

I don't get this. Cubs fans hate the Sox, yet they come to White Sox games. If it were half price night at Wrigley, it wouldn't make me anymore inclined to go there. Security should toss out any moron throwing balls onto the field.

Lip Man 1
04-19-2005, 11:45 PM
Pat says: "I don't get this. Cubs fans hate the Sox, yet they come to White Sox games."

They are stupid Cub fans that's why. Also again I thought anyone who throws an object on the field is ejected. Why is this not being done?

Lip

Ron Karkovice
04-19-2005, 11:58 PM
when fans throw the ball back i disagree with their decision but i'm not DISGUSTED!:angry: !:angry: !

daveeym
04-20-2005, 01:01 AM
Half-price tickets should equal double priced beer. You might think that would drive people away but it might actually bring the families out more.As someone that likes to drink at the game I'd hate this, but since I am there for the game more than the drinks I think that's the best idea I've heard yet for half price nights. That or the wristband thing like i'm at a Kane County Cougars game and have the cops actually carding.

NWSox
04-20-2005, 01:26 AM
The sad reality is that very few teams, if any, with high attendance figures have well-behaved, knowledgeable fans. It's kind of a deal with the devil. Maybe the Yankees can get 30,000 knowledgeable (but not well-behaved) fans on a given night. But the Flubs and the Red Sox have obviously sold their souls for revenue. I went to a handful of Mariners game when they were winning, and that crowd needed a Baseball 101 course, too.

popilius
04-20-2005, 01:43 AM
I was at Monday night's game, and I was disgusted and embarrassed by fans who wanted others to throw the ball back on foul balls. I was telling the people around me that this dumb move was NOT a South Side tradition, and that it doesn't make any sense in the first place.

I was really hoping that I would get a ball so that I could stand up and lecture my whole section and dare them to take the ball from me. . .

:gulp:

BainesHOF
04-20-2005, 02:14 AM
Trust me, everyone. If you didn't throw the home run back Monday, you would have been beaten to a pulp. I'm not exaggerating. A pack of thugs were blood thirsty. There was a scary mob mentality out in the bleachers.

Bobby Thigpen
04-20-2005, 10:20 AM
I don't get this. Cubs fans hate the Sox, yet they come to White Sox games.


It's because they're real baseball fans!!

Frater Perdurabo
04-20-2005, 10:40 AM
That or the wristband thing like i'm at a Kane County Cougars game and have the cops actually carding.

And people with fake IDs should be arrested on the spot.

Frater Perdurabo
04-20-2005, 10:46 AM
As much as the half-price night helps out the working class fan, it's time to do away with the promotion.

Replace it with:

2-for-1 weeknight game tix vs. non-premium opponents in April, May and September.

Family packake deals (tix, food, drinks, parking & hats for discounted price)

skottyj242
04-20-2005, 10:56 AM
I'm all against trowing anything on the field, especially home runs, but on Monday night when I think it was Shannon Stewart threw a foul ball into the stands and someone threw it right back at him...it was pretty funny. I know that half price nights bring out a bunch of idiots but I kind of got the feeling that most of the park was "blood thirsty" to some degree....I mean come on, we were playing the Twins.

Frater Perdurabo
04-20-2005, 11:31 AM
Need a carrot and a stick approach. The carrot is the official sugestion that fans give an unwanted ball to a young kind somewhere in their section. The stick is to eject from the park anyone who throws anything - including a ball - onto the field. I might also suggest that anyone "bloodthirsty" enough to threaten others if they don't comply with the demand to "throw it back," at a minimum ought to be ejected and perhaps arrested. Isn't it a crime to threaten bodily harm?

Chez
04-20-2005, 12:41 PM
I seem to remember the genesis of the "throw it back tradition" being at the old Comiskey circa 1977 with the Southside Hitmen. Cub fans then hijacked it and turned it into a cute, national treasure at Wrigley (gag me). Does anyone else remember it this way?

AZChiSoxFan
04-20-2005, 12:51 PM
I've been saying for quite awhile now that the Sox should get rid of half-price night. On paper, it's a nice idea that would draw families into the park. Instead, it draws drunks, Cubs fans and other idiots who make the game an unpleasant experience.

I've heard many references to the "number of idiots" who show up on Monday nights. My question is this: Is it just as bad on Pepsi Tuesday nights? On the surface, it would seem to be, but the attendance last night was about 18K compared to 27K on Monday night, so maybe it's not as bad on Tuesdays?? What about the Sunday Kids' days? I would think those aren't as bad. Just curious, I've only been to games at the Cell on Fridays and Saturdays, so never on a half price night or kids day. Thanks.

SOXSINCE'70
04-20-2005, 01:10 PM
I thought I saw some doofus throw the ball back,but the (not so)
good censors on SOXNET thought that wasn't important.The
"censors" showed it for about a half a second.I couldn't even see
if he had a sCrUBbie jersey on.

Here's a hint for all who think of throwing home run balls
back onto the field at Sox Park: DON'T!!!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:

Throwing back HR balls is childish and rude.Find
a kid who really wants the ball and give it to them.
SOX PARK IS NOT THE NORTH SIDE PISS SHRINE!!:angry: :angry:

SSN721
04-20-2005, 01:11 PM
I've heard many references to the "number of idiots" who show up on Monday nights. My question is this: Is it just as bad on Pepsi Tuesday nights? On the surface, it would seem to be, but the attendance last night was about 18K compared to 27K on Monday night, so maybe it's not as bad on Tuesdays?? What about the Sunday Kids' days? I would think those aren't as bad. Just curious, I've only been to games at the Cell on Fridays and Saturdays, so never on a half price night or kids day. Thanks.

Every half price night is bad. I only forgot how bad it was but was reminded on Monday when a fight almost broke out in our section in the club level. It is getting ridiculous. I would usually go to monday or tuesday games a lot last year and go sit in the fan deck. From up there you had a great vantage point. Not only of the game but the disruptions caused by fights int he outfield. Had to be at least 4-6 fights a game at the minimum. If I had children I would never take them on a half price night. The crowd there is downright embarrassing. I was really ashamed on monday night at the behavior.

JB98
04-20-2005, 01:19 PM
The sad reality is that very few teams, if any, with high attendance figures have well-behaved, knowledgeable fans. It's kind of a deal with the devil. Maybe the Yankees can get 30,000 knowledgeable (but not well-behaved) fans on a given night. But the Flubs and the Red Sox have obviously sold their souls for revenue. I went to a handful of Mariners game when they were winning, and that crowd needed a Baseball 101 course, too.

There are a lot of people who need Baseball 101 at our park too. On Sunday, I had a guy behind me who was a total idiot. In the fifth inning, he was yelling for Garcia to walk Reed. Well, Freddy walked him all right. That loaded the bases for Beltre, and we all know the rest.

Later, when Hargrove came to the mound to take Meche out of the game, he started telling his girlfriend about Lou Pinella. Wrong again.

Captian Ron
04-20-2005, 01:24 PM
I was there and I saw the guy. He was a scrub fan and he threw it back like it was stolen. Security came down and talked to him but never threw him out. I hate it when people throw the ball on the field this is the south side not the north side.:mad:

PaleHoseGeorge
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
I was there and I saw the guy. He was a scrub fan and he threw it back like it was stolen. Security came down and talked to him but never threw him out. I hate it when people throw the ball on the field this is the south side not the north side.

This is ridiculous. The Sox just need to bite the bullet and start kicking people out of the ballpark for throwing ANYTHING on the field.

I'm sure the Sox are worried about the media backlash when some doofus writes a letter to the Cubune (or calls in to sportsblab radio) complaining about how he was treated at big bad U.S. Cellular Field. Brooks and everyone else at Sox Park need to know the true Sox Fans would come to the team's defense in a big way.

SOX FANS HATE BALLS BEING THROWN BACK!

Stop worrying about what the idiot sportswriters and sportsblab radio show hosts have to say. The Sox need only worry about SOX FANS and we definitely have their backs if they start kicking numbskulls out of the park like the one Monday night.

southsidesoxfan1
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
I was at mondays game sitting right next to the visitors bullpen. The first home run Everett hit out was right over our heads. Some guy in a cubs jersey got it and threw it back. Everyone got on the guy and started chanting get em' out of here, but security did nothing. I thought anyone caught throwing something on the field was immediately ejected from the game. Guess not, or they figured that it would be better to let him stay cause sooner or later he would get whats coming to him. Anyhow, the madness needs to stop.

Lip Man 1
04-20-2005, 02:36 PM
Very good point.

Lip

PaleHoseGeorge
04-20-2005, 02:45 PM
Very good point.


It's this simple. Before each game, along with the usual legal disclaimer the Sox always announce over the P.A. system, make the following statement:

"Any fan interferring with a live ball or throwing anything on the field is subject to removal from the ballpark."

This is hardly revolutionary and leaves the Sox plenty of room for discretion regarding who ought to be escorted out of Sox Park.

I would defend to the last ditch the Sox' right to make such a disclaimer.
:cool:

Fenway
04-20-2005, 02:52 PM
The Red Sox nipped this in the bud a couple of years ago by ejecting any fan that does so.

converted
04-20-2005, 03:23 PM
I've heard many references to the "number of idiots" who show up on Monday nights. My question is this: Is it just as bad on Pepsi Tuesday nights? On the surface, it would seem to be, but the attendance last night was about 18K compared to 27K on Monday night, so maybe it's not as bad on Tuesdays?? What about the Sunday Kids' days? I would think those aren't as bad. Just curious, I've only been to games at the Cell on Fridays and Saturdays, so never on a half price night or kids day. Thanks.

Well, the Tuesday Pepsi deal is a "buy one, get one" but only for the upperdeck. Therefore, you probably won't have as many people do it, and you won't have that obnoxious crowd down in the bleachers or lower level sections. I'm sure the Tuesdays are better than Mondays. Kid's days aren't bad. But if you're actually bringing a kid, be prepared to get there super early to get any of the autographs and be prepared to leave the game early to get in line to run the bases. The crowd isn't bad though. I think I'm leaning toward NOT attending any more Monday night games. The crowd was just too ridiculous. I HATE seeing balls thrown back and lots of fights, ughh!!

Ol' No. 2
04-20-2005, 03:33 PM
It's this simple. Before each game, along with the usual legal disclaimer the Sox always announce over the P.A. system, make the following statement:

"Any fan interferring with a live ball or throwing anything on the field is subject to removal from the ballpark."

This is hardly revolutionary and leaves the Sox plenty of room for discretion regarding who ought to be escorted out of Sox Park.

I would defend to the last ditch the Sox' right to make such a disclaimer.
:cool:I thought they did make such an announcement along with the "Any fans entering the field of play..." stuff. No?:?:

elrod
04-20-2005, 03:37 PM
Why do people call it Sox Park? It's US Cellular Field, or Comiskey. It's not Sox Park. Why do people in this city insist on calling US Cellular Field Sox Park and Wrigley Field Cubs Park? Probably the same reason people rhyme "roof" with "hoof". And why is it that while the local accent turns the short "o" sound into a flat "a", the word "Chicago" is pronounced "Chicawgo". Why not Chicaaaaago? Tell me! I've lived her for 5 years and I don't get it.

PaleHoseGeorge
04-20-2005, 03:37 PM
I thought they did make such an announcement along with the "Any fans entering the field of play..." stuff. No?

I know they mention interferring with a live ball. Do they also mention throwing anything on the field? If so, they only need to enforce it. Sox Fans definitely have their back when it comes to home run balls.

GiveMeSox
04-20-2005, 03:40 PM
Throw them out of the park!!

C-Dawg
04-20-2005, 04:10 PM
Why do people call it Sox Park? It's US Cellular Field, or Comiskey. It's not Sox Park. Why do people in this city insist on calling US Cellular Field Sox Park and Wrigley Field Cubs Park?

You forgot to mention "Cellular Field" and "Comiscular Park". :rolleyes:

FARMEO
04-20-2005, 04:16 PM
I know they mention interferring with a live ball. Do they also mention throwing anything on the field? If so, they only need to enforce it. Sox Fans definitely have their back when it comes to home run balls.

The message mentions that fans are welcome to keep any balls that leave the field of play. There needs to be an addition about throwing balls or objects on the field. Throwing objects on the field just delays the game.

PaleHoseGeorge
04-20-2005, 04:17 PM
Why do people call it Sox Park? It's US Cellular Field, or Comiskey. It's not Sox Park. Why do people in this city insist on calling US Cellular Field Sox Park and Wrigley Field Cubs Park? Probably the same reason people rhyme "roof" with "hoof". And why is it that while the local accent turns the short "o" sound into a flat "a", the word "Chicago" is pronounced "Chicawgo". Why not Chicaaaaago? Tell me! I've lived her for 5 years and I don't get it.

Wow. That's pretty ignorant for living here for five years, don't you think elrod?
:o:

The original name given to the Sox home on 35th Street was White Sox Park, commonly shortened to simply "Sox Park." However the team and the ballpark were closely associated with its founder, Charles Comiskey. Thus the ballpark also carried the moniker "Comiskey's Baseball Palace of the World." Later it was shortened simply to "Comiskey Park" and still later back to "White Sox Park" and then back to "Comiskey Park" which it remained for the last 15 seasons before it was knocked over. Meanwhile a whole new Comiskey Park was built across the street.

Plenty of Sox Fans WHO KNOW THEIR HISTORY still call it Sox Park because that's the name it has gone by off and on for nearly 100 years now. Some of us see it as convenient way to avoid using the corporate-sponsored name, too, and still be understood by 100 percent of the fans WHO AREN'T IGNORANT.

The only people who I've ever heard get upset about ballpark names are Cubs fans because too many of their fellow idiot Flubs fans sometimes call it "Cubs Park" but that's just the nature of IGNORANT fans generally. They get upset easily.

Glad to help you out, elrod.
:cool:

Stealth
04-20-2005, 04:35 PM
This will become an epidemic before too long and you will see it at every park in the majors. The Twins fans are now doing this. it's very embarrassing to hit a homerun in your own park only to see an opposing fan whip it back on to the field.

That fan is asking for it to do that in the home teams yard!

JOEJACKSON
04-20-2005, 04:37 PM
In The Marine Corps Marines Police There Own. At Sox Park Us Fans Should Police Our Home.nobody Gomes Into Ourhouse And Disrespects Us Especially A Cub Fan Throwing Back Balls.disrespect Our House And Our Traditions Then One Must Show The Enemy Some Manners.


Semper Fi

Get Joe Jackson In The Hall Of Fame

Cat Thief
04-20-2005, 06:33 PM
There are a lot of people who need Baseball 101 at our park too. On Sunday, I had a guy behind me who was a total idiot. In the fifth inning, he was yelling for Garcia to walk Reed. Well, Freddy walked him all right. That loaded the bases for Beltre, and we all know the rest.

Later, when Hargrove came to the mound to take Meche out of the game, he started telling his girlfriend about Lou Pinella. Wrong again.


Sunday I had one behind me yelling at Dye after the error to go back to KC.
I' m pretty sure he didn't know he came from Oakland. (most recently):dunno:

Another was yelling to bring back Mags. I didn't wanna tell him he was on the DL and he wouldn't be playing anyways.:o:

Sometimes (alot) of times you have to block people out. Any maybe find another open seat.

Cat Thief
04-20-2005, 06:35 PM
Has anyone ever emailed the Sox about throwing balls back onto the field? I'm not sure who to direct that too. Brooks again? Do you think they would even respond?

FARMEO
04-20-2005, 06:36 PM
Dye originally came from KC then he went to Oakland.

skobabe8
04-20-2005, 06:39 PM
Why do people call it Sox Park? It's US Cellular Field, or Comiskey. It's not Sox Park. Why do people in this city insist on calling US Cellular Field Sox Park and Wrigley Field Cubs Park? Probably the same reason people rhyme "roof" with "hoof". And why is it that while the local accent turns the short "o" sound into a flat "a", the word "Chicago" is pronounced "Chicawgo". Why not Chicaaaaago? Tell me! I've lived her for 5 years and I don't get it.

Why can you call it Comiskey, but not Sox Park?? :?:

Wsoxmike59
05-03-2005, 07:23 AM
The stupid Cub fan mentality is permeating the entire league. Last Friday night in the Astros-Cubs game (with the historic match up of 300 game winners Clemens - Maddux) some yahoo of a fan caught Jeromy Burnitz' 7th inning HR in the RF upper deck AND THREW IT BACK!!!!

Even Cub announcer Len Kasper lambasted the guy as a moron. The guy even had what appeared to be his young son sitting right next to him!!

Kasper said something to effect of.....man to throw back a souvenir ball from a game of this historic proportion....and NOT GIVE THE BALL TO HIS YOUNG SON....is just plain stupid.

The Racehorse
05-03-2005, 09:29 AM
Last year, on my two day sojourn to Chicago for the SOX/Phillies game, I happened to be walking around North Avenue Beach the morning of the game. Not knowing my way around Chicago at all, I asked some nice looking 20-something year old who was setting up her consession stand if Lakeshore Drive will take me to "Sox Park"... she was immediately helpful, and of course knew what I was talking about. :cool:

Uncle_Patrick
05-03-2005, 10:01 AM
I've tried to discuss with Cubs fans why I think that throwing a home run ball back on the field is a stupid tradition. I've said, "Why not give it to some kid or even some old man who's been coming to games his whole life and never gotten a home run ball?" For a baseball fan, a home run ball SHOULD be a big deal, even if the opposing team hits it. When I was very young and first getting into baseball, I remember what a big deal it was. Then, when I was a bit older, this b.s over at Wrigley started happening and now plenty of people (including some misguided Sox fans) think that its cool to throw home run balls back.

Anyway, this was the most memorable response I got from a Cubs fan on the subject and the idea of giving to the ball to someone else instead of throwing it back:
"Its just a $5 baseball. Its not important."

That says it all for me.

The Racehorse
05-03-2005, 10:07 AM
the most memorable response I got from a Cubs fan on the subject and the idea of giving to the [homerun] ball to someone else instead of throwing it back:

"Its just a $5 baseball. Its not important."

:?:

... segueing into

:roflmao:

Ol' No. 2
05-03-2005, 10:10 AM
I've tried to discuss with Cubs fans why I think that throwing a home run ball back on the field is a stupid tradition. I've said, "Why not give it to some kid or even some old man who's been coming to games his whole life and never gotten a home run ball?" For a baseball fan, a home run ball SHOULD be a big deal, even if the opposing team hits it. When I was very young and first getting into baseball, I remember what a big deal it was. Then, when I was a bit older, this b.s over at Wrigley started happening and now plenty of people (including some misguided Sox fans) think that its cool to throw home run balls back.

Anyway, this was the most memorable response I got from a Cubs fan on the subject and the idea of giving to the ball to someone else instead of throwing it back:
"Its just a $5 baseball. Its not important."

That says it all for me.The Cubs fan is correct. The ball they actually throw back IS just a $5 baseball. If there's anyone who doesn't know by now, they bring baseballs with them to the game and throw THOSE back, keeping the HR ball. Did you ever notice there's always a delay between when the ball lands in the seats and when it's thrown back?

mweflen
05-03-2005, 10:17 AM
Any fan, regardless of what team paraphernalia he/she is wearing, should get a free stay in the holding cell and the phone book treatment if they "throw it back."

The problem is that there is no announcement before or during the game. They ought to just have another Konerko PSA which says "This is a Great Sports Town with Great Fans. If you throw a ball onto the field, you will get your ass kicked and have to pay a $100 fine. Go to Wrigley for that, losers."

PaleHoseGeorge
05-03-2005, 10:18 AM
....
The problem is that there is no announcement before or during the game. They ought to just have another Konerko PSA which says "This is a Great Sports Town with Great Fans. If you throw a ball onto the field, you will get your ass kicked and have to pay a $100 fine. Go to Wrigley for that, losers."

I like it. It's subtle.

:thumbsup: