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oldcomiskey
04-17-2005, 10:47 AM
http://www.expressfan.com/dickallenhof/

I had remembered him being traded for curt flood in that deal that was supposed to send flood to philadelphia but couldnt remember who the cardinals sent instead--and on his page at baseball reference I found this site

oldcomiskey
04-17-2005, 10:48 AM
and by the way does anybody know who the sox got when they traded him to atlanta--no fair looking it up

Brian26
04-17-2005, 10:59 AM
Wow, there are some really great photos on that site.

chisoxfan64
04-17-2005, 11:01 AM
Wow, there are some really great photos on that site.


Yes there are. Really brings back some good memories for me. That was the time when I was a kid and really getting into baseball and being a White Sox fan.

Sox&Springsteen
04-17-2005, 12:15 PM
Yes there are. Really brings back some good memories for me. That was the time when I was a kid and really getting into baseball and being a White Sox fan.

I can completely relate--one of my earliest White Sox Memories was seeing him play in the red uniform.

Does anyone remember when he changed his name t "Richie"? What was that all about? I don't see a reference to it on the website--maybe he changed it back later to Dick??

Thanks for the cool link, oldcomiskey. With a screen name like that you are definitely a man after my own heart. :smile:

"Switch on, there goes another Chevy...":cool: :D:

Sox&Springsteen
04-17-2005, 12:21 PM
Thanks for the cool link, oldcomiskey. With a screen name like that you are definitely a man after my own heart. :smile:



Actually that should have read, "You are definitely a Sox Fan after my own heart". :redface:

Will be more careful in the future.....:smile:

oldcomiskey
04-17-2005, 12:28 PM
I think he became Dick Allen when he came to chicago and still nobody remembers who we got for him--does anybody remember who we traded to LA to get him

chisoxfan64
04-17-2005, 12:41 PM
I think he became Dick Allen when he came to chicago and still nobody remembers who we got for him--does anybody remember who we traded to LA to get him

It says on the site that we traded Tommy John and Steve Huntz to the Dodgers for Allen.

Lip Man 1
04-17-2005, 01:04 PM
To answer the questions:

Jim Essian was the guy the Sox got from Atlanta along with some cash for Allen's rights. Remember he had 'retired' at the time. Roland Hemond again worked his magic and got something for at that time 'nothing.' Allen refused to report to the braves saying it was to much in the 'south.' He forced Atlanta to trade him to the Phillies in May.

Allen asked the Chicago media and fans to call him Dick when he came to Chicago because as he put it, that's what his mother called him growing up. His legal name was Richard Anthony Allen but his family preferred calling him Dick.

Also you may also enjoy this site. Currently 115 photos of Allen with the White Sox many in beautiful color.

http://www.chicago-baseball-photos.com/a/allendick/index.htm

Lip

oldcomiskey
04-17-2005, 02:42 PM
very good lip--now can you tell me who the phillies recieved instead of curt flood

Fenway
04-17-2005, 02:53 PM
I met Dick Allen once when Applelton was playing Kenosha in the Midwest League. He was I believe a roving instructor in the White Sox system in 1986 and was at Simmons Field because Appleton was a White Sox A team. After hearing all the stories about him I was pleasantly surprised to find him talking to all fans and enjoying it.

Lip Man 1
04-17-2005, 05:34 PM
Was it Barry Bonnell? (Who'd later go on to have a good career as one of the original Blue Jays, I think...)Lip

Dick Allen
04-17-2005, 06:10 PM
Didn't they get Willie Montanez to replace Flood? Not sure.

DickAllen72
04-17-2005, 06:12 PM
I think he became Dick Allen when he came to chicago and still nobody remembers who we got for him--does anybody remember who we traded to LA to get him

We traded Tommy John & Steve Huntz for him.

I believe we got Jim Essian for him when we traded him away.

Lip Man 1
04-17-2005, 07:26 PM
Chifan 64 answered it earlier in the thread, John and Huntz went to the Dodgers at the winter meetings after the 1971 season.

Lip

oldcomiskey
04-18-2005, 09:32 PM
it was willie montenez

Lip Man 1
04-18-2005, 10:23 PM
According to retrosheet.com here are the transactions involving Dick:

Transaction InformationSigned as an amateur free agent by Philadelphia Phillies (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_PHI1960.htm) (1960).Traded by Philadelphia Phillies (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_PHI1969.htm) with Jerry Johnson (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pjohnj104.htm) and Cookie Rojas (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Projac101.htm) to St. LouisCardinals (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_SLN1969.htm) in exchange for Tim McCarver (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pmccat101.htm), Byron Browne (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pbrowb101.htm), Joe Hoerner (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Phoerj101.htm) and Curt Flood (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pflooc101.htm)(October 7, 1969 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/10071969.htm)); Curt Flood (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pflooc101.htm) refused to report to Philadelphia Phillies (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_PHI1969.htm) and St.Louis Cardinals (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_SLN1970.htm) sent Willie Montanez (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pmontw101.htm) (April 8, 1970 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/04081970.htm)) and Bob Browning (August 30,1970 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/08301970.htm)) to complete trade.Traded by St. Louis Cardinals (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_SLN1970.htm) to Los Angeles Dodgers (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_LAN1970.htm) in exchange for Ted Sizemore (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Psizet101.htm)and Bob Stinson (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pstinb101.htm) (October 5, 1970 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/10051970.htm)).Traded by Los Angeles Dodgers (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_LAN1971.htm) to Chicago White Sox (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_CHA1971.htm) in exchange for Tommy John (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pjohnt001.htm) andSteve Huntz (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Phunts101.htm) (December 2, 1971 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/12021971.htm)).Traded by Chicago White Sox (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_CHA1974.htm) to Atlanta Braves (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_ATL1974.htm) in exchange for cash and a player tobe named later (December 3, 1974 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/12031974.htm)); Chicago White Sox (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_CHA1975.htm) received Jim Essian (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pessij001.htm) (May 15,1975 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/05151975.htm)).Traded by Atlanta Braves (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_ATL1975.htm) with Johnny Oates (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Poatej101.htm) to Philadelphia Phillies (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_PHI1975.htm) in exchange forJim Essian (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pessij001.htm), Barry Bonnell (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/Pbonnb001.htm) and $150000 (May 7, 1975 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/05071975.htm)).Granted free agency (November 5, 1976 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/11051976.htm)).Signed by Oakland Athletics (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_OAK1977.htm) (March 16, 1977 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/03161977.htm)).Released by Oakland Athletics (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/TM_OAK1978.htm) (March 28, 1978 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/03281978.htm)).