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Fenway
04-11-2005, 05:57 PM
Joe Torre once again shows that he is 100% class and the Yankees dugout followed his lead.
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2005/04/11/1113255350_0726.jpg
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ChiWhiteSox1337
04-11-2005, 05:59 PM
Did Mariano Rivera tip his cap as well, after the standing ovation he received? :D:

Fenway
04-11-2005, 06:06 PM
Did Mariano Rivera tip his cap as well, after the standing ovation he received? :D:

as a matter of fact he did with a big smile on his face :D:


http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/04_11_05_opening_day_video

Some nice video of the first pitch thrown out by Teddy Bruschi, Richard Seymour, Bill Rusell and Bobby Orr

They really did a wonderful job with this

NSSoxFan
04-11-2005, 06:18 PM
Joe Torre is not 100% class, sorry fenway.

Paulwny
04-11-2005, 06:22 PM
YES Net yankmee announcers Kay, Mercer, Kaat ~ What a class organization the yankees are, and on and on and on........
They replayed the player intros with Francona shaking hands with Torre and thanking him for a great show of class, return to Kay, Mercer, Kaat ~ what a class organization the yankees are, and on and on and on ........

Fenway
04-11-2005, 06:27 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050411/capt.bxf11704112152.yankees_red_sox_bxf117.jpg

Not a dry eye in the park when Johnny Pesky finally got his ring
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2005/04/11/1113254734_5165.jpg

ewokpelts
04-11-2005, 06:55 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050411/capt.bxf11704112152.yankees_red_sox_bxf117.jpg

Not a dry eye in the park when Johnny Pesky finally got his ring
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2005/04/11/1113254734_5165.jpgpesky gets one? why?? and why would i shed a tear for that?
Gene

TommyJohn
04-11-2005, 07:19 PM
pesky gets one? why?? and why would i shed a tear for that?
Gene

Definition of irony: the same group of fans that cast Pesky as a "goat" for
"holding" the ball in 1946 and allowing Slaughter to score now shed tears
for him as he gets a ring. Then again, they should be grateful. Pesky's
Game 7 blunder was a part of "curse" legend and lore. If he makes the
throw and nails Slaughter the game is tied and the Bosox possibly win.
If that happened Dan Shaughnessy wouldn't have had a book and "Red
Sox Nation" can't talk about "unparalleled suffering" and throw a massive
pity party that continues today despite their winning it all last year.

ewokpelts
04-11-2005, 08:26 PM
Definition of irony: the same group of fans that cast Pesky as a "goat" for
"holding" the ball in 1946 and allowing Slaughter to score now shed tears
for him as he gets a ring. Then again, they should be grateful. Pesky's
Game 7 blunder was a part of "curse" legend and lore. If he makes the
throw and nails Slaughter the game is tied and the Bosox possibly win.
If that happened Dan Shaughnessy wouldn't have had a book and "Red
Sox Nation" can't talk about "unparalleled suffering" and throw a massive
pity party that continues today despite their winning it all last year.

Dan Shaughnessy 's a tool. How much curse talk existed before 1986? and how much after the east coast media got hold of his book? i doubt many people talked curses in 1975 after fisk's homer...hell the 1975 series is regarded as one of the best ever...
Gene

FightingBillini
04-11-2005, 08:27 PM
Definition of irony: the same group of fans that cast Pesky as a "goat" for
"holding" the ball in 1946 and allowing Slaughter to score now shed tears
for him as he gets a ring. Then again, they should be grateful. Pesky's
Game 7 blunder was a part of "curse" legend and lore. If he makes the
throw and nails Slaughter the game is tied and the Bosox possibly win.
If that happened Dan Shaughnessy wouldn't have had a book and "Red
Sox Nation" can't talk about "unparalleled suffering" and throw a massive
pity party that continues today despite their winning it all last year.

No, they would still talk about being cursed. The only difference is that the Yankees fans would chant "1946". ESPN would show piece after piece about the "long suffering" Red Sox fans who have waited 59 years for a championship.

soltrain21
04-11-2005, 09:30 PM
Jeez...they gave everyone a ring. Why didn't I get one? I am sure I did SOMETHING to contribute to the "curse."

Fenway
04-11-2005, 09:32 PM
Bill Russell returns to Fenway for first time in 40 years

First pitch: Bruschi, Seymour, Russell, Orr (http://video.nesn.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipid1=394516&at1=Sport&vt1=v&h1=First+pitch%3A+Bruschi%2C+Seymour%2C+Russell%2C +Orr&d1=189000&redirUrl=www.NESN.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage)http://images.nesn.worldnow.com/images/394516_vk.jpg
http://video.nesn.com/images/static/gfx/pxl_trans.gif (http://video.nesn.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipid1=394516&at1=Sport&vt1=v&h1=First+pitch%3A+Bruschi%2C+Seymour%2C+Russell%2C +Orr&d1=189000&redirUrl=www.NESN.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage)So when you have your party at USCF you will have a tough act to beat :smile:

NSSoxFan
04-11-2005, 09:53 PM
Bill Russell returns to Fenway for first time in 40 years

First pitch: Bruschi, Seymour, Russell, Orr (http://video.nesn.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipid1=394516&at1=Sport&vt1=v&h1=First+pitch%3A+Bruschi%2C+Seymour%2C+Russell%2C +Orr&d1=189000&redirUrl=www.NESN.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage)http://images.nesn.worldnow.com/images/394516_vk.jpg
http://video.nesn.com/images/static/gfx/pxl_trans.gif (http://video.nesn.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipid1=394516&at1=Sport&vt1=v&h1=First+pitch%3A+Bruschi%2C+Seymour%2C+Russell%2C +Orr&d1=189000&redirUrl=www.NESN.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage)So when you have your party at USCF you will have a tough act to beat :smile:

No, the White Sox don't have a tough act to beat. When we win the series, we aren't going to parade every Chicago celebrity around like they did something to contribute. It will be a party celebrating what the WHITE SOX accomplished, not a photo-op for the likes of MJ, Singletary, Pippen, and the list goes on....:rolleyes:

Lip Man 1
04-11-2005, 09:57 PM
Red Sox - Yankees news.
Yawn...

Who cares?

Lip

TheBull19
04-11-2005, 10:03 PM
Red Sox - Yankees news.
Yawn...

Who cares?

Lip

Isn't this the red-headed step sons of sam horn site? Oh, no, wait I did type in www.whitesoxinteractive.com (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com).

TheBull19
04-11-2005, 10:07 PM
Not a dry eye in the park when Johnny Pesky finally got his ring


Wow - Red Sox fans really are the Cubs fans of the AL.

Jjav829
04-11-2005, 10:08 PM
Did Mariano Rivera tip his cap as well, after the standing ovation he received? :D:

Best moment of the day. That was hilarious.

By the way, I have no problem with any of the former Red Sox putting on a Red Sox jersey for the ring ceremony.

Whitesox029
04-11-2005, 10:24 PM
Definition of irony: the same group of fans that cast Pesky as a "goat" for
"holding" the ball in 1946 and allowing Slaughter to score now shed tears
for him as he gets a ring. Then again, they should be grateful. Pesky's
Game 7 blunder was a part of "curse" legend and lore. If he makes the
throw and nails Slaughter the game is tied and the Bosox possibly win.
If that happened Dan Shaughnessy wouldn't have had a book and "Red
Sox Nation" can't talk about "unparalleled suffering" and throw a massive
pity party that continues today despite their winning it all last year.
Does Bill Buckner get a ring?

ChiSoxRowand
04-11-2005, 11:47 PM
Why did Johnny Pesky get a ring? I don't think Lowe and Roberts should have wore Red Sox jerseys.

Fredsox
04-12-2005, 06:37 AM
Does Bill Buckner get a ring?

How about Yaz? Does he deserve one? What about Ted Williams (....must... resist... temptation.... to... make... head... joke................................)

Every team has their guys from the past. When we win it do we give a ring to Billy Pierce or Minnie Minoso? As much as I value their team contributions, I don't think so.

ChiSoxRowand
04-12-2005, 12:28 PM
How about Yaz? Does he deserve one? What about Ted Williams (....must... resist... temptation.... to... make... head... joke................................)

Every team has their guys from the past. When we win it do we give a ring to Billy Pierce or Minnie Minoso? As much as I value their team contributions, I don't think so.

No, we shouldn't give rings to players of the past. It's fine to honor them at the ceremony, but to give them a ring when they had nothing to do with the title is a joke. Do all teams do this?

jortafan
04-12-2005, 01:01 PM
Actually, if our team were to be in a position next year to give out rings for this season, Minnie Minoso probably would get one.

He is on the Sox payroll in a front office position, meaning he would be among the many team employees who would get a ring. I'm not sure, but maybe even Billy Pierce would qualify on those grounds. Is he among the former players who the Sox keep around for PR purposes?

LongLiveFisk
04-12-2005, 01:02 PM
No, the White Sox don't have a tough act to beat. When we win the series, we aren't going to parade every Chicago celebrity around like they did something to contribute. It will be a party celebrating what the WHITE SOX accomplished, not a photo-op for the likes of MJ, Singletary, Pippen, and the list goes on....:rolleyes:

Well, you and I would HOPE the White Sox wouldn't do that. But when a franchise wins for the first time in 80+ years they just might go a little crazy and overboard (see the Boston Red Sox).

Foulke You
04-12-2005, 03:35 PM
If Fenway wants to post things in the Talking Baseball forum about the Red Sox, I have no problem with it. I like to know what is going on around the league which is why I come to this board. If you don't want to hear about non-White Sox related things, I suggest some of the people complaining go to the SOX CLUBHOUSE. That is why it is there.

I know I am envious as hell after watching them raise that championship flag on the video clip. I hope to be alive to see it happen at Comiskey Park one day. Although, I can guarantee one thing, we won't have a song as awful as the one that was playing when the flag was being raised. Did someone misplace the Queen CD with "we are the champions"? That would have been much better than the god awful folksy song they were playing with all the Red Sox player names in it. That song was HORRIBLE.:D:

Fenway
04-12-2005, 03:42 PM
Why did Johnny Pesky get a ring? I don't think Lowe and Roberts should have wore Red Sox jerseys.

Former players that got rings because they are still employed by the club include

Jim Rice, Luis Tiant, Carl Yastrzemski, Johnny Pesky, Tommy Harper, Dwight Evans, Frank Malzone

FightingBillini
04-12-2005, 04:00 PM
No, we shouldn't give rings to players of the past. It's fine to honor them at the ceremony, but to give them a ring when they had nothing to do with the title is a joke. Do all teams do this?
No, the Red Sox are the first team to do this. I personally think its very classy. When a team has won several championships, including one in the last 20 years, it wouldn't mean that much. However, the Red Sox' title last year, as the 2005 White Sox championship will be, was about history. It was about every player that every wore RED SOX across his chest. Boston has had their share of hall of famers, including one of the greatest players of all time in Ted Williams. Since 1917, none of those players had ever won a championship (at least in Boston). This championship is about all the players ther fans have watched and fallen in love with over the years.
This championship is almost unreal. I still barely believe it happened. I cant imagine what it will feel like when the White Sox win it. However, as soon as the Sox win it, I know I will think about Fox and Aparicio, Joe Jackson, Luke Appling, Early Wynn, Carlton Fisk, Minnie Minoso, FRANK THOMAS. I hope the White Sox bring Minnie and Looie and Fisk to the park to give them rings. And hey, the Red Sox didn't give Fisk a ring. Maybe the ring would be just the gesture to patch things up between him and JR... ok, maybe not.

Fenway
04-12-2005, 04:40 PM
I think you have to consider that the former players are all part of an extended family. One thing the Red Sox and White Sox have in common was that after WWII both of our teams produced some very, very good ballclubs but the team in the Bronx was always just a little bit better.

I do hope you guys have your glorious winter and happy Opening Day soon and you will find it made all the heartbreak worthwhile. I had a winter looking forward to seeing anybody wearing a hat with http://www.redsoxnation.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/NYY.gif (javascript:emoticon(':evil')) on it. It was fun watching them look down at the sidewalk to avoid seeing my http://www.redsoxnation.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/rslogosmall.gif (javascript:emoticon(':sox')).

Imagine how you will feel on the "L" all winter looking at Cubs fans.


Dan Shaughnessy wrote this morning

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/04/12/fans_revel_as_sox_return_as_champs?pg=full
No matter what age you are, there was a former Boston player to remind you of an earlier time when the Sox entertained, but couldn't win a championship. Dom DiMaggio, Bobby Doerr (the 87-year-old Hall of Famer flew overnight to make the ceremony), Frank Malzone, Jim Lonborg, Jim Rice, and Oil Can Boyd touched different generations of fans in different ways. Collectively, they encapsuled 70 years of living Red Sox history.

"They've been here a long time and been through a lot of heartache and this brought joy to their lives," said Sox captain Jason Varitek. "We're such a small part. When you see the emotion on Johnny Pesky's face, that says it all -- what the players before us and the people who've been here have been through."

Red Sox owner John W. Henry said, "You can't imagine a more gratifying feeling than standing there handing out rings to these people. And everywhere I go, people want to tell me how much it meant to them."

and Bill Simmons captured what it was like to be at the game as a fan

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/050412

Chisox003
04-12-2005, 04:44 PM
No, we shouldn't give rings to players of the past. It's fine to honor them at the ceremony, but to give them a ring when they had nothing to do with the title is a joke. Do all teams do this?

Well we as White Sox fans sure as hell wouldnt know. :whistle:

Any 90 year old Sox fans out there wanna give us a hand?

Fenway
04-12-2005, 04:58 PM
BTW for park trivia buffs, notice in this photo a new addition to the scoreboard in the LF wall at Fenway. The standings panel was created so they could then add a giant CVS panel.


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/04/11/sports/red.sox.1.new.jpg

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/2005/04/08/giPJS5om.jpg

Fenway
04-12-2005, 05:07 PM
YES Net yankmee announcers Kay, Mercer, Kaat ~ What a class organization the yankees are, and on and on and on........
They replayed the player intros with Francona shaking hands with Torre and thanking him for a great show of class, return to Kay, Mercer, Kaat ~ what a class organization the yankees are, and on and on and on ........

it appears the executive producer of Yankees baseball on YES decided against showing anything

from NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/sports/baseball/12tv.html

SPORTS MEDIA AND BUSINESS
Boston Holds Its Party, but YES Just Says No

By RICHARD SANDOMIR

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/dropcap/t.gifhe Yankee-centric myopia of the YES Network reached a fascinating level of absurdity yesterday in a pregame show that virtually ignored the sight of the Boston Red Sox receiving their World Series rings.

TheBull19
04-12-2005, 08:46 PM
If Fenway wants to post things in the Talking Baseball forum about the Red Sox, I have no problem with it. I like to know what is going on around the league which is why I come to this board. If you don't want to hear about non-White Sox related things, I suggest some of the people complaining go to the SOX CLUBHOUSE. That is why it is there.



Yeah, but when every 4th thread in talking baseball and the parking lot is about the Red Sox or Boston, it gets annoying.

Fenway
04-13-2005, 06:10 PM
That would have been much better than the god awful folksy song they were playing with all the Red Sox player names in it. That song was HORRIBLE.:D:

That was written and sung by Terry Cashman of Talking Baseball fame

It was not well received in Beantown