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voodoochile
04-06-2005, 05:12 PM
First time I've seen him pitch this season. People were talking about what a great job he was doing in ST, but he is like an entirely new pitcher. Moving the ball up and down and in and out, throwing with authority. Hafner watching that fat fastball for strike 3 was the proof of how confused he was. He had no idea where to look for a pitch. Nice to see the timid high throws to the LH batters box become a thing of the past. He looks like he is finally growing up and settling down.

Whitesox029
04-06-2005, 05:13 PM
I think it's spelled Neal.

voodoochile
04-06-2005, 05:15 PM
I think it's spelled Neal.

Thank you...

nasox
04-06-2005, 05:19 PM
I agree. I noticed this today, and while I was watching Rivera and ARod blow the Yankmees/Redsox game, he really was hitting his spots and pitching with command we've never seen before. A lot of people were dogging him in chat but he seems like he can help us this year.

Shoeless Joe
04-06-2005, 05:22 PM
I was also impressed with Cotts' performance today. I can't really remember Cotts throwing heat, he was reaching 93 mph according to the gun. However, he had good noticeable movement on his pitches. And as a rule of thumb you can never have enough left handed pitching so more power to him.

Tragg
04-06-2005, 05:25 PM
Is his future as a reliever or a starter?

Ozzie's always liked him a lot.

voodoochile
04-06-2005, 05:27 PM
Is his future as a reliever or a starter?

Ozzie's always liked him a lot.

He was a starter in the minors, but they are letting him get his feet wet as a lefty specialist/long reliever so far. Will he develop into a Major league caliber starter? Only time will tell...

We got this guy in the Foulke trade right? :D:

Tragg
04-06-2005, 05:28 PM
He was a starter in the minors, but they are letting him get his feet wet as a lefty specialist/long reliever so far. Will he develop into a Major league caliber starter? Only time will tell...

We got this guy in the Foulke trade right? :D:

Good point. I retract - Neal sucks. Billy Beane doesn't trade away good young pitchers. Damn, I wish we had Joe Valentiine back.

Rocklive99
04-06-2005, 05:29 PM
I just remember him being one of our top prospects, being compared to Buehrle, and starting in that minor league All Start Game at the Cell. He was awesome out of the pen until he got rocked in his first start at Minnesota

jabrch
04-06-2005, 05:31 PM
This pen is BOTH strong and deep. That's a great thing to see. We didn't need the pen so much for the Buehrle/Garcia starts (2 ER combined) but we might need it more for the back half of the rotation.

hose
04-06-2005, 05:39 PM
Neal did indeed look good in ST. Seems like he had more mound presence for one thing and a little better control.

Hopefully Cotts will continue to carry it over to the regular season. I think he will and should only get better with more seasoning.

Shorty1983
04-06-2005, 05:56 PM
Cotts was fun to watch, but how about the rest of our pen. Vizcaino and Marte were nailing some nice inside pitches and making the hitters chase. Despite Damaso 1 earn run he did a nice job getting his self out of more trouble. A.J seems to be working hard with our starters and relievers with the signs an all. Hermanson just served he's 1 day suspension and I hope to see him do some long relief for Contreras tomorrow.

ChiSox14305635
04-06-2005, 06:05 PM
Cotts was fun to watch, but how about the rest of our pen. Vizcaino and Marte were nailing some nice inside pitches and making the hitters chase. Despite Damaso 1 earn run he did a nice job getting his self out of more trouble. A.J seems to be working hard with our starters and relievers with the signs an all. Hermanson just served he's 1 day suspension and I hope to see him do some long relief for Contreras tomorrow.


I hope not. I'd like to see Contreras go deep in the game tomorrow and hopefully get the "W".

batmanZoSo
04-06-2005, 06:30 PM
Good point. I retract - Neal sucks. Billy Beane doesn't trade away good young pitchers. Damn, I wish we had Joe Valentiine back.

Cough, cough, Mulder, cough Hudson...:cool:

mealfred13
04-06-2005, 08:33 PM
Neal's been looking great ever since spring training. He seems alot more confident out there and might even be working a little faster than he was last season. He's gotten really good at moving the ball around, but the biggest key is his delivery. Hawk mentioned several times over ST and today's game that he's spoken to alot of hitters who faced Cotts, and they all seem to think he's throwing in the upper 90s, when he's usually in the low 90s on his fastball. Apparently something in his delivery makes it look like the ball is getting up there alot quicker than it is, and he seems to have matured and figured out how to use his fastball most effectively.

They also worked on his change alot over spring training, and he's using it properly this year. Last year, he'd often go to the change late in the count, only to have it crushed. He seems to be going for his fastball alot more as an out pitch now, and hitters aren't prepared for it. I like what I see.

That said, I think someone mentioned something about Cotts possibly going back to a starting role in the future, but he'd probably need to pick up another pitch or two before he could be truly effective in keeping hitters guessing. He has an above-average fastball, but he needs to work more on his change to be able to use it as an out pitch, rather than an out-of-the-park pitch. As it is right now, though, he's using both his fastball and his change at the right times, and looks to have a great year.

Milkman43
04-06-2005, 08:37 PM
I really like Neal Cotts. He's got a good fastball and like Hawk says he is sneaky.

maurice
04-06-2005, 09:15 PM
Cotts has been very difficult to hit for awhile now. (Look at his hits per IP or BA against.) He gets in trouble when he starts walking guys and throwing 6 pitches per AB. If he can just continue to throw strikes early and often, he'll pitch in the major leagues for a long time.

IIRC, Cooper's trying to help by working on Cotts' mechanics, so he can get a longer look at the plate before releasing the ball.

PAPChiSox729
04-06-2005, 09:20 PM
I hope Neal matures this year and pitches well. Neal looked great today. His fastball seemed to be effective. If he can keep his control of the fastball and curve and know when to throw the change, he will have a successful year. Could you imagine our bullpen with Hermanson, Shingo, Marte, Vizcaino, Politte, and a mature Cotts? And with the way Cotts has thrown so far, that isn't too much of a pipedream.

mealfred13
04-06-2005, 09:31 PM
Cotts has been very difficult to hit for awhile now. (Look at his hits per IP or BA against.) He gets in trouble when he starts walking guys and throwing 6 pitches per AB. If he can just continue to throw strikes early and often, he'll pitch in the major leagues for a long time.

IIRC, Cooper's trying to help by working on Cotts' mechanics, so he can get a longer look at the plate before releasing the ball.

Yep I heard about that in ST too. I think the first part of what you said and the second part go hand in hand. He was apparently watching runners for a long time, and then throwing to the plate without really looking at it first. They're trying to work on him getting a good look at the plate before the windup so he doesn't lose his location with runners on. That was causing him to leave things out over the plate and get hurt even more with RISP.

Maggliosfan09
04-06-2005, 10:44 PM
i like Neal. I liked him last year. I think he'll be really good eventually!!

SoxxoS
04-07-2005, 04:05 PM
Good post voodoo...it looks like he has really turned a MENTAL corner. The stuff has always been there.