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Fenway
03-16-2005, 12:21 PM
Red Sox ownership continues to sink money into the old lady of Kenmore Square and are addressing some of the playors major gripes

Globe: David Ropeik - Fenway Park Insider: What’s new at Fenway this season; The rush is on to get the ballpark ready for April (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/03/16/what146s_new_at_fenway_this_season/)

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110571082_2531.jpg
The newly rebuilt field waits with the rest of us for spring.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110571362_8405.jpg
The sidewalk on Landsdowne Street under the Green Monster seats has been widened. The BoSox say hopefully before Opening Day cherry trees that blossom in the spring will be planted.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110572130_9885.jpg
A two-story addition to Fenway is being built on Van Ness Street to house player parking, a weight room, a players lounge, a media room, and, on the roof, a new disabled seating section.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110572210_4124.jpg
A few sections at a time the original brick of Fenway's facade is being replaced. Nothing radical...just some bright new brick.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110572332_5853.jpg
Workman Bonifazio Cedrone and his broom warm up in what will be the batter's box in the new batting cage under the stands behind the BoSox dugout.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110572430_3917.jpg
The improved restroom for players and coaches behind the BoSox dugout. Believe it or not, the sit-down toilet is a new addition.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110572520_3298.jpg
The face of Fenway at the corner of Brookline Avenue and Landsdowne Street. Hard to believe this will be a functioning restaurant in a month, with a sidewalk cafe and access from outside and inside Fenway.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/11/1110572852_4635.jpg
The face of the Game On Sports Cafe, being built where the old bowling alley used to be at Brookline and Landsdowne Streets. The BoSox are still hopeful it'll be ready by the home opener April 11.

maurice
03-16-2005, 12:26 PM
The Sox say . . . .
Why are the White Sox commenting on construction in Boston?

. . . . behind the Sox dugout.
. . . . behind the Sox dugout.
The White Sox have their own dugout in Fenway park! That's amazing!

The Sox are still hopeful it'll be ready by the home opener April 11.
Why? The White Sox don't play in Boston until August.

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Sorry, fenway, but you should know better.

Fenway
03-16-2005, 12:30 PM
corrected :rolleyes:

MUsoxfan
03-16-2005, 03:11 PM
And Fenway....no praise for Roger Bossard for field reconstruction?:rolleyes:

wdelaney72
03-16-2005, 03:48 PM
No offense, but I've been to Fenway park. Like the Urinal on the North Side of Chicago, between the foul poles it's a really cool ballpark. Otherwise it's still old, smelly, and overcrowded. They're prolonging the inevitable and wasting money... they need to knock it down and rebuild it with comfortable seating, bathrooms, parking, and concourses that are wide enough to handle the crowds.From the owners perspective, this also means adding ultra-rich luxury skyboxes, so you know it will happen eventually.

Foulke You
03-17-2005, 01:20 PM
Looking forward to seeing the new improvements Fenway. I'll be there in August when the White Sox come to town. Sorry, wdelaney, i disagree with your assesment of Fenway Park. I hope it stays forever. It is way better than Wrigley for a variety of reasons that I seem to have stated ad nauseum in this forum so I will refrain this time. I'll never understand the "Fenway is the same as Wrigley" comments but I've just accepted that some people aren't going to have their minds changed about it and everyone has their own opinion.

When I went to Fenway in 2003, it was after they expanded the concourse in RF and put in the green monster seats. It was night and day difference from when I went in '02. I really liked the exapnsive new concourse, it really opened things up and gives the fans some elbow room when the park empties out. The food court with the picnic tables was nice too. They are slowly starting to get many of the amenities that the modern ballparks have. Also, the one thing that always amazed me about Fenway Park was how quickly the place emptied out after a game. It is the anti-Wrigley in that regard. A sold out crowd is completely out of there in about 10-15 minutes tops. I went to the Men's room after a White Sox winner there, by the time I came out the cops were shooing the remaining people to the exits and the light standards were already turned off. Outside the park is busy of course, but nothing compared to the nightmare that takes place after Cubs games. It helps that Boston blocks off a couple of the streets surrounding the ballpark on game days.

Alanzo
03-17-2005, 11:43 PM
To me, this is a big :whocares. Aren't there Red Sox message boards....

Fenway
03-18-2005, 01:27 PM
To me, this is a big :whocares. Aren't there Red Sox message boards....

This is the talking baseball section :smile:

baseball_fanatic
03-18-2005, 01:35 PM
I'll be making my first ever trip to Fenway in July and I'm looking forward to it.

NSSoxFan
03-18-2005, 01:36 PM
This is the talking baseball section :smile:

Fenway, don't worry, as you know most of us don't have any problem with your posts. I like anything to do with stadiums, so I liked seeing those pics.

robertks61
03-18-2005, 01:41 PM
Thanks for the pic's. I was at Fenway once and loved it! Anyone interested there are some good pic's of some Dodger Stadium renovations on the Dodger website.

Daver
03-18-2005, 01:46 PM
This renovation is like polishing a turd, the place is a dump.

santo=dorf
03-18-2005, 01:48 PM
Those are nice pics Fenway!

jake27
03-18-2005, 01:48 PM
thanks for the info! the restaurant sounds likea good idea

Fenway
03-18-2005, 02:14 PM
This renovation is like polishing a turd, the place is a dump.

The one thing they have to do if they plan on staying there is revamp the Grandstand seating. Right now if you are more than 5 foot 7 you have no leg room.

http://www.mlbroadtrip.com/images/photos/september/week2/fenwayseat.jpg

We were supposed to have a new ballpark by this season but then Harrington sold the team

http://graphics.boston.com/news/packages/fenway/images/fenway_illustrated2.gif

http://graphics.boston.com/news/packages/fenway/images/lginterior.jpg

Baby Fisk
03-18-2005, 02:19 PM
Wild. So is that plan back on ice now?

Fenway
03-18-2005, 02:33 PM
Wild. So is that plan back on ice now?

That is the $64 question. Harrington screwed up by telling everybody where he wanted to build the park FIRST before he controlled the land.

But now very quietly the Red Sox ARE buying the land


If the Red Sox move their offices to the off-site real estate, it will be easier to expand Fenway Park and to be able to do the foundation work necessary to support an upper deck, if that is in the plans. It also looks like the Red Sox are planning to control more parking in the area. They can sell spaces in the garage to other tenants in the area for use on most weekdays when the Sox aren't playing.


Steve Bailey - Red Sox seek more sites near Fenway; In talks for 3 properties in an area ripe for change (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/03/09/red_sox_seek_more_sites_near_fenway/)

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Graphic/2005/03/09/1110367823_4317.gif

Herald:

Scott Van Voorhis - Red Sox offices to take WBCN space (http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=72144)

http://business.bostonherald.com/images/business/wbcn20050308.jpg

Today's Herald:

Scott Van Voorhis - Fenway buying continues: Red Sox want garage as part of expansion, area improvement (http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=72330)

I want Mags back
03-19-2005, 11:03 AM
To me, this is a big :whocares. Aren't there Red Sox message boards....

Agreed, with the pats and red sox combined, were all ****in sick of hearing about boston.

I want Mags back
03-19-2005, 11:07 AM
The one thing they have to do if they plan on staying there is revamp the Grandstand seating. Right now if you are more than 5 foot 7 you have no leg room.

http://www.mlbroadtrip.com/images/photos/september/week2/fenwayseat.jpg

We were supposed to have a new ballpark by this season but then Harrington sold the team

http://graphics.boston.com/news/packages/fenway/images/fenway_illustrated2.gif

http://graphics.boston.com/news/packages/fenway/images/lginterior.jpg

now thtats a little more interesting

Fenway
03-19-2005, 01:29 PM
Agreed, with the pats and red sox combined, were all ****in sick of hearing about boston.

and if Illinois and BC both win today you will hear even more :smile:

wdelaney72
03-21-2005, 09:02 AM
Looking forward to seeing the new improvements Fenway. I'll be there in August when the White Sox come to town. Sorry, wdelaney, i disagree with your assesment of Fenway Park. I hope it stays forever. It is way better than Wrigley for a variety of reasons that I seem to have stated ad nauseum in this forum so I will refrain this time. I'll never understand the "Fenway is the same as Wrigley" comments but I've just accepted that some people aren't going to have their minds changed about it and everyone has their own opinion.

When I went to Fenway in 2003, it was after they expanded the concourse in RF and put in the green monster seats. It was night and day difference from when I went in '02. I really liked the exapnsive new concourse, it really opened things up and gives the fans some elbow room when the park empties out. The food court with the picnic tables was nice too. They are slowly starting to get many of the amenities that the modern ballparks have. Also, the one thing that always amazed me about Fenway Park was how quickly the place emptied out after a game. It is the anti-Wrigley in that regard. A sold out crowd is completely out of there in about 10-15 minutes tops. I went to the Men's room after a White Sox winner there, by the time I came out the cops were shooing the remaining people to the exits and the light standards were already turned off. Outside the park is busy of course, but nothing compared to the nightmare that takes place after Cubs games. It helps that Boston blocks off a couple of the streets surrounding the ballpark on game days.

I went in 2000, so if they've cleaned it up since then, I'll retract my statement. All I can say is in 2000, it was a dump.

wdelaney72
03-21-2005, 09:03 AM
To me, this is a big :whocares. Aren't there Red Sox message boards....

I agree that the Boston love has become a problem, but I for one, find the whole ballpark construction / renovation thing fascinating.

MUsoxfan
03-21-2005, 09:05 AM
Did anyone notice that in the new ballpark drawings, the CF/RF bleachers don't face the field?

TommyJohn
03-21-2005, 11:05 AM
The one thing they have to do if they plan on staying there is revamp the Grandstand seating. Right now if you are more than 5 foot 7 you have no leg room.

http://www.mlbroadtrip.com/images/photos/september/week2/fenwayseat.jpg

We were supposed to have a new ballpark by this season but then Harrington sold the team

http://graphics.boston.com/news/packages/fenway/images/fenway_illustrated2.gif

http://graphics.boston.com/news/packages/fenway/images/lginterior.jpg

A park that is an exact replica of the old one. What a concept. Wish it had
been thought of around 1989.

CubKilla
03-21-2005, 11:52 AM
A park that is an exact replica of the old one. What a concept. Wish it had
been thought of around 1989.

And I definitely like that they'd be keeping Old Fenway Park around for awhile and making parts of it into a public park instead of bulldozing it and making it into a parking lot.

Good to know that the idiots running Chicago's sports franchises are always on the cusp of what NOT to do :rolleyes: .

maurice
03-21-2005, 01:43 PM
That is the $64 question.

Well, if it turns out anything like the Big Dig, it will be the $14.7 trillion question, begin construction in 2007, and finish up somewhere around the year 2214.
:cool:

TommyJohn
03-21-2005, 01:45 PM
And I definitely like that they'd be keeping Old Fenway Park around for awhile and making parts of it into a public park instead of bulldozing it and making it into a parking lot.

Good to know that the idiots running Chicago's sports franchises are always on the cusp of what NOT to do :rolleyes: .

I always wished that they had left SOME part of old Comiskey standing, even if
it was just the centerfield bleachers.

LongLiveFisk
03-21-2005, 02:39 PM
Those pics of the "new" Fenway look awesome. You think they'll turn the existing Fenway into a parking lot, ala Comiskey Park?

Medford Bobby
03-22-2005, 11:08 AM
:smile:They could have easily built some some shops and bars on the Old Comiskey grounds and have had the facade of the structure look like Old Comiskey..........Maybe a smaller make up.....I don't know how much of the old building could have been saved....Maybe the old scoreboard as a permanent advertising sign:?:



:o: Also, go to mlb.com and go to the Cardinals new site...check out how they are building the new park..they are building half now and the rest after they tear down the current Busch stadium......it looks like a nice park with a view of the arch..........:D:

Fenway
03-22-2005, 01:33 PM
Those pics of the "new" Fenway look awesome. You think they'll turn the existing Fenway into a parking lot, ala Comiskey Park?

As I posted earlier those plans were made by John Harrington in 1999 and then put on hold by the new ownership. Today we have found out what many of us have feared, the new ownership plans to stay at Fenway Park.

Red Sox planning to remain at Fenway

Launching effort to revitalize area

By Steve Bailey and Sasha Talcott, Globe Staff | March 22, 2005

The Boston Red Sox tomorrow will announce that the team is staying put in Fenway Park, baseball's oldest and smallest stadium.

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2005/03/22/red_sox_planning_to_remain_at_fenway_1111476585?pg =full


Fan reaction on the 2 major Bosox boards is mixed

http://p086.ezboard.com/fsonsofsamhornbostonredsox.showMessage?topicID=151 34.topic

http://www.redsoxnation.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14645 (http://www.redsoxnation.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14645&hl)

whitesoxwilkes
03-22-2005, 01:51 PM
To me, this is a big :whocares. Aren't there Red Sox message boards....

This is the talking baseball board, where you can talk about anything baseball-related you wish.

I for one find Fenway's posts to always be interesting and insightful, even if they have a Boston focus. I'd rather read about this than wade through 6 pages of misspelled dreck.

ewokpelts
03-22-2005, 02:40 PM
As I posted earlier those plans were made by John Harrington in 1999 and then put on hold by the new ownership. Today we have found out what many of us have feared, the new ownership plans to stay at Fenway Park.

Red Sox planning to remain at Fenway

Launching effort to revitalize area

By Steve Bailey and Sasha Talcott, Globe Staff | March 22, 2005

The Boston Red Sox tomorrow will announce that the team is staying put in Fenway Park, baseball's oldest and smallest stadium.

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2005/03/22/red_sox_planning_to_remain_at_fenway_1111476585?pg =full


Fan reaction on the 2 major Bosox boards is mixed

http://p086.ezboard.com/fsonsofsamhornbostonredsox.showMessage?topicID=151 34.topic

http://www.redsoxnation.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14645
I take it you DONT want them there?
Gene

Fenway
03-22-2005, 02:43 PM
I take it you DONT want them there?
Gene

What I want them to do is play in Foxboro for a year and redo the seating bowl so if I happen to be sitting in Section 4 I am not looking at the CITGO sign instead of home plate.

A little legroom would be nice too. The box seats are OK...the grandstand is awful.

MUsoxfan
03-22-2005, 03:13 PM
A little legroom would be nice too. The box seats are OK...the grandstand is awful.

The grandstand was unbelievably tight. THANK GOD they were smart enough to get rid of the beer vendors. I can't imagine the congestion that would cause

maurice
03-22-2005, 04:27 PM
ESPN report. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2018985)

Fenway
03-23-2005, 01:31 PM
03/23/2005 12:34 PM ET
Boston Red Sox Press Release

BOSTON, MA -- The leaders of the Boston Red Sox today committed to remain long-term at Fenway Park, America's most beloved ballpark. Principal Owner John W. Henry, Chairman Tom Werner, and President/CEO Larry Lucchino made the long-awaited declaration in the .406 Club at the ballpark at a press conference regarding additional future improvements of Fenway Park.

"It is an honor to have the opportunity to protect and preserve Fenway Park," said Henry. "We see how its history and charm attract people from all over the world, and how it helps connect generations within families.

"We will continue to listen to our fans and make improvements inside the park, at our own private expense, as we have done over these past three years."

"When we set out to purchase this franchise and this ballpark, we were the only group that promised to save Fenway Park if at all possible," Werner said. "We believed we could, and we committed to try. Now, through the success of the improvements made thus far, and with those slated to come, we have kept our promise. We have honored our commitment to preserve and improve Fenway Park."

"We have lived at Fenway Park for more than three years," Lucchino said. "We have studied it in detail. We have studied the Fenway, Kenmore, and Longwood neighborhoods, which are essential components of this ballpark's life and our fans' experiences. We have made improvements each of the last three years, and we have major improvements on tap for the next several years. It's time to culminate this courtship with a loud, clear, long-term public commitment. We are proud that Fenway Park will be our home for years to come, and we are confident it will generate the revenue we need to be successful."

The club also provided updates regarding major Fenway improvements scheduled for 2005 and 2006 (see below). Among the latter, the club will remove the glass that has separated the fans seated in the .406 Club from the open-air Fenway ambiance since 1989.

"Ever since we arrived, fans have been asking us if we could remove the glass, and we see now that we can do so by 2006," Lucchino said. "We are eager to restore the lively ambiance that the rest of the fans in the park so enjoy. These will be among the lowest and closest club seats in all of baseball.

"We have more than 3,000 fans who pay to be on a waiting list for season tickets, and new high-quality, high-amenity seats in the Pavilion Level will help satisfy their hunger."

Other improvements already underway for 2005 include a new, level playing field with state-of-the-art drainage; the largest expansion and renovation of the clubhouse in recent history; an expansion of the Third Base Concourse, and the establishment of a year-round restaurant at the corner of Brookline Avenue and Lansdowne Street.

"We will now begin to plan the Fenway Park Centennial, in 2012, sure to be a great celebration and an historic achievement," Lucchino said.

Summary of Fenway Park Fan Amenities (2002-2005)

Since 2002, the Boston Red Sox have converted previously underutilized space into new and improved facilities that are designed to enhance the experience of fans visiting Fenway Park. Such additional amenities can be found in new areas of the ballpark, such as Yawkey Way, the Green Monster Seats, the Big Concourse, and the Third Base Concourse, and include the following:

New Fixed Concession Stands 22
New Concession Points of Sale 42
New Water Fountains 9
New Televisions 51
New ATM's 4
New Men's Restrooms 2
New Men's Water Closets 11
New Men's Urinals 28
New Men's Lavatory Sinks 20
New Women's Restrooms 3
New Women's Water Closets 31
New Women's Lavatory Sinks 43
New Family Restrooms 2
New Turnstiles 20
New Stand-Up Tables 65
New Picnic Tables 65






Park it here for the future

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/03/23/park_it_here_for_the_future?mode=PF

By Dan Shaughnessy, Globe Columnist *|* March 23, 2005


FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Meet the new ballpark. Same as the old ballpark. And put in an order now for Opening Day 2012, when the Red Sox will become the first major league team in history to celebrate 100 years in the same ballpark. Hopefully, Ted Kennedy can toss out the first pitch 100 years after his grandfather christened Fenway.


Today the Red Sox owners officially will announce what has been apparent for quite some time. They will tell the world that Fenway Park is going to be their home for the indefinite future. They will unveil plans for more ballpark work and accompanying neighborhood improvements. Don't be surprised if they tell you there will be premium seating on the Citgo sign in the not-too-distant future.

Baby Fisk
03-23-2005, 02:27 PM
"We will now begin to plan the Fenway Park Centennial, in 2012, sure to be a great celebration and an historic achievement," Lucchino said.

...followed by the opening of a new park in 2013.

Fenway
03-23-2005, 03:59 PM
...followed by the opening of a new park in 2013.

This is no shock to me that they wanted to extend the life of the park until 2012 and milk it for everything that it is worth. But I was told back in 1988 when they built the 600 club on the roof that the foundation had perhaps 20-25 years left. The park is built on wood pilings on filled in land..the reason it never had an upper deck in the first place was the fear the park would sink.

This ownership group has made Fenway an attraction ( a baseball theme park )

Fenway only became a beloved ballpark because it survived the 60's. Yawkey almost went along with the Patriots for a retractable dome that would have been built for baseball, football and dog racing.Then they won the pennant in 67 and suddenly the limited amount of seating became a plus. People had to buy in the winter.....

The 75 and 86 Series just made it worse and then Field of Dreams wound up at Fenway because JR refused to allow filming at Comiskey Park I.

Thank goodness AAA Pawtucket is around to see baseball at a price a normal family can afford more than once a year.

Fenway
03-24-2005, 12:18 PM
http://video.nesn.com/images/static/hdr/hdr_607x37.gif


No surprise to Fenway commitment (http://video.nesn.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipid1=380640&at1=Sport&vt1=v&h1=No+surprise+to+Fenway+commitment&d1=350633&redirUrl=www.NESN.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage)http://images.nesn.worldnow.com/images/380640_vk.jpg
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Red Sox make Fenway commitmentThe Red Sox and Fenway Park have been inseparable for generations -- and it will continue to be that way.

Ending years of speculation about the future of the oldest ballpark in the Majors, the Red Sox announced on Wednesday that they have no intention of moving out of their home since 1912, choosing instead to continue a massive facelift that has revitalized the 93-year-old building and reenergized the fans who make the pilgrimage to
the hallowed baseball ground.

During a news conference to show off their latest improvements, team officials said they would continue to aggressively modernize Fenway.
Full story » (http://click.mlb.com/ct/click?q=54-l6HvIZKlREtESAFPOdf92sUvdsRR)
Players welcome Fenway changes » (http://click.mlb.com/ct/click?q=be-B7RxQCp2ZPSkXf18nkis9E3fwsRR)

:: SIGHTS AND SOUNDS ::
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/icons/audio.gifLarry Lucchino makes it official » (http://click.mlb.com/ct/click?q=12-ja1KIl~jieeXXDuqp2YI6xjkCdRR)http://mlb.mlb.com/images/icons/audio.gifLucchino looks ahead to milestone » (http://click.mlb.com/ct/click?q=7b-pr__IBZ0OdxymT78DeRb_q8VpdRR)http://mlb.mlb.com/images/icons/audio.gifJohn Henry calls this a historic day » (http://click.mlb.com/ct/click?q=cf-eb0~QLwThtvKdhtEaicKsgR3fsRR)
RSN members observe upgrades http://mlb.mlb.com/bos/images/email/y2005/line_10x5a.gif
Seeing was believing for five charter members of
Red Sox Nation.

Two brothers, a father and son and a 28-year-old Boston resident were part of the historic announcement that the Red Sox would be staying put at Fenway Park well into the future.
Full story » (http://click.mlb.com/ct/click?q=77-u6f6IIpkqtLXezaO3LJ4clgdZdRR) | http://mlb.mlb.com/images/icons/photo.gif Photo gallery » (http://click.mlb.com/ct/click?q=b6-llgUQCKgp1ul8cD9_lf6NX50LsRR)

Fenway
03-25-2005, 02:49 PM
For the last decade there has been a local group of zealots that pleaded to SAVE FENWAY PARK

http://www.savefenwaypark.com
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:xfudvHViPEEJ:eteamz.active.com/wrbroncos/images/SFP.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://eteamz.active.com/wrbroncos/images/SFP.jpg&imgrefurl=http://eteamz.active.com/wrbroncos/links/&h=135&w=163&sz=7&tbnid=xfudvHViPEEJ:&tbnh=76&tbnw=92&start=15&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsave%2Bfenway%2Bpark%26hl%3Den%26lr%3 D)
Most of us laughed at them but for once ownership listened

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/03/25/fenway_lessons/
Dan Wilson stood on the top step of the Red Sox dugout on Wednesday, as happy as if his team had just clinched the pennant. ''This is as good as it gets," said Wilson, president of Save Fenway Park! He was too polite to say, ''I told you so." But he had every right.

and the owner is rip**** about the leak to the press
While there was a magic mood at Fenway Park Wednesday when the Red Sox said they were staying put, a witch hunt is underway at the highest levels of Red Sox Nation. Management wants to know who leaked the plans to the Globe two days early. ''We have someone in the partnership who has become quite unfriendly lately," principal owner John Henry told me in a midnight e-mail. '' . . . I hope this doesn't sound unfriendly. It's not meant that way. You're doing your job, and you are very good at your job. Tomorrow I will try to do mine and cope with the agenda someone now has internally."

MisterB
03-25-2005, 03:14 PM
For the last decade there has been a local group of zealots that pleaded to SAVE FENWAY PARK

http://www.savefenwaypark.com (http://www.savefenwaypark.com/)
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:xfudvHViPEEJ:eteamz.active.com/wrbroncos/images/SFP.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://eteamz.active.com/wrbroncos/images/SFP.jpg&imgrefurl=http://eteamz.active.com/wrbroncos/links/&h=135&w=163&sz=7&tbnid=xfudvHViPEEJ:&tbnh=76&tbnw=92&start=15&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsave%2Bfenway%2Bpark%26hl%3Den%26lr%3 D)


Interesting pic from the above site that compares the profiles of Old and New Comiskey:

red faber
03-29-2005, 10:04 PM
Red Sox ownership continues to sink money into the old lady of Kenmore Square and are addressing some of the playors major gripes

Globe: David Ropeik - Fenway Park Insider: What’s new at Fenway this season; The rush is on to get the ballpark ready for April (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/03/16/what146s_new_at_fenway_this_season/)

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The newly rebuilt field waits with the rest of us for spring.

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The sidewalk on Landsdowne Street under the Green Monster seats has been widened. The BoSox say hopefully before Opening Day cherry trees that blossom in the spring will be planted.

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A two-story addition to Fenway is being built on Van Ness Street to house player parking, a weight room, a players lounge, a media room, and, on the roof, a new disabled seating section.

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A few sections at a time the original brick of Fenway's facade is being replaced. Nothing radical...just some bright new brick.

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Workman Bonifazio Cedrone and his broom warm up in what will be the batter's box in the new batting cage under the stands behind the BoSox dugout.

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The improved restroom for players and coaches behind the BoSox dugout. Believe it or not, the sit-down toilet is a new addition.

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The face of Fenway at the corner of Brookline Avenue and Landsdowne Street. Hard to believe this will be a functioning restaurant in a month, with a sidewalk cafe and access from outside and inside Fenway.

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The face of the Game On Sports Cafe, being built where the old bowling alley used to be at Brookline and Landsdowne Streets. The BoSox are still hopeful it'll be ready by the home opener April 11.


:whocares

MRKARNO
03-29-2005, 10:37 PM
:whocares

Fans of the game at large.

skobabe8
03-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Fans of the game at large.

I agree. I care, because its interesting to me. If you dont care, dont read. But you cant say it doesnt apply to "Talking Baseball."
I never realized that Field of Dreams was supposed to be at Comiskey. Anyone have any archived stories or anything??

batmanZoSo
03-30-2005, 11:20 PM
The one thing they have to do if they plan on staying there is revamp the Grandstand seating. Right now if you are more than 5 foot 7 you have no leg room.

http://www.mlbroadtrip.com/images/photos/september/week2/fenwayseat.jpg

We were supposed to have a new ballpark by this season but then Harrington sold the team

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Those images are at least 6 years old. I remember coming across them at ballparks.com. That would be a great job of recreating the old park, but the center field seats are way too big. That looks ridiculous.

And I'm sure the new park wouldn't have much leg room either. There's no such thing as leg room, because they gotta jam pack as many people and make as much dirty money as humanly possible. At the Cell, I sit in the upper deck, because the seats in front of me are down by my feet due to the incline. For me, sitting in the lower deck sucks.

The Racehorse
03-31-2005, 09:12 AM
Summary of Fenway Park Fan Amenities (2002-2005)

New Fixed Concession Stands 22
New Concession Points of Sale 42
New Water Fountains 9
New Televisions 51
New ATM's 4
New Men's Restrooms 2
New Men's Water Closets 11
New Men's Urinals 28
New Men's Lavatory Sinks 20
New Women's Restrooms 3
New Women's Water Closets 31
New Women's Lavatory Sinks 43
New Family Restrooms 2
New Turnstiles 20
New Stand-Up Tables 65
New Picnic Tables 65


This renovation is like polishing a turd

Or like putting falsies on your great-great grandma. :redneck

:)

Fenway
03-31-2005, 07:28 PM
I agree. I care, because its interesting to me. If you dont care, dont read. But you cant say it doesnt apply to "Talking Baseball."
I never realized that Field of Dreams was supposed to be at Comiskey. Anyone have any archived stories or anything??

I got an email out to a friend of my in LA who worked on the movie for the scoop.

The Red Sox ESPECIALLY under Jean Yawkey never permitted Fenway to be used like this and the work back in May of 1988 was that Selig talked Harrington into it after Comiskey fell through.

Only the ballpark scene was filmed in Boston, the location where Terrance Mann lived was shot in Toronto ( the electric buses give that away )

We have trolly buses but not in areas that looked like that.

Now Fenway can be rented for anything

Fenway
04-03-2005, 02:47 PM
Fans are letting the Red Sox know that many are not happy with the idea of staying put in the old park.


http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/04/03/isnt_it_time_we_said_goodbye_to_fenway_park?pg=ful l

The best movie ever made about baseball in Boston was a 1962 film by the Spanish surrealist Luis Bunuel, called The Exterminating Angel. The plot is twisted: People arrive for a dinner party, enjoy themselves, get drunk, snipe at one another, and trade gossip. Then, when the time comes to go home, they stand up, they approach the door. But not one of them can bring himself to pass through that door. They know that the party's over; they cannot leave it. Soon, this group becomes a sensation in the city. Townspeople gather on the street, staring, wondering why the party won't end, long after it has ceased to be fun.

Think of Fenway Park as that dinner party.

Fenway
04-16-2005, 03:00 PM
Theme Park Fenway continues :angry:

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Red Sox to add upscale seats at Fenway (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/04/16/sox_to_add_upscale_seats_sponsor_signed)

I. Will Rockwell
11-02-2008, 04:31 PM
I am a Sox fan. A RED Sox fan, but I felt safe to post this here without getting banned on the Sox Sites. I love my BoSox and Fenway, but if they (John Henry, Tom Werner) cannot make anymore drastic changes such as adding more seats, then I think that it's time to build a new Fenway Park right behind the current one at Fenway. It should be titled "Sam Adams Field at Fenway Park." It's perfect, but who is going to listen to a message board nothing? Certainly not the fine people on the other Red Sox Nation Boards.

The problem is with the Red Sox fans is that they are somehow afraid of change. I don't really see what is so bad about building a new Fenway. It would mean more people in the park and a 45,000 seat venue is better than trying to squeeze 39,320 people into one dilapidated place. I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's polishing a turd, but it does get really old trying to make an antique seem all new. You cannot expect a radio station to go HD while still using 1950's tubes. That's what it's like at Fenway.

Now the novelty of the old Fenway being renovated was cute at first, but then it got real old fast this year. Taking down the All-Star Boxes was a no brainer, but now it just seems old and passe. But for my fellow Red Sox fans, you CANNOT talk about tearing down Fenway. Sacrelige. People would start to hang themselves and then become martyrs. But if I were the owner, I would flat out tell the fans "I'm sorry but the New Fenway IS happening. Get used to it."

What should happen is I would tear down everypart of Fenway except the Green Monster and turn that into a Sports Museum. I would also try my best to make the enterences seem like the current Fenway with the food stands and the Pro Shop. I would also add two new Restaruants to the Park. I would take over GAME ON! and put it IN the Park in Centerfield above the Bleachers where people can watch the game from inside. I would also rename it RED OCTOBER. It would have the Monster and the Monster Seats with the same lights in the Park, but I would build a lot of Upper Deck Seats with more Leg Room. It has to be done. I would also add a T Stop on the Green Line to Fenway.

Look, ff Wrigley Field wants to keep their field the way that it is so that John Cusack can get all sentimental over it, then fine. They'll never win a World Series until the second coming of the lord. But it's time for Boston to Upgrade. If they cannot redo the entire park and add more seats, then it's time for it to go. I thank you all for starting this conversation. And I thank you for welcoming me onto this Board.

I want Mags back
11-02-2008, 04:38 PM
resurrecting a 4 and a half yr old thread

:troll:

I. Will Rockwell
11-02-2008, 04:55 PM
resurrecting a 4 and a half yr old thread

:troll:


Like trying to resurrect a ninety-six year old ballpark. See how silly it is?


Look, eventually even the diehard Save Fenway Park people will give in and say "yea we need a new one." The Owners have purchased all of that property on the outside of the Park. So it's bound to happen. It'll happen probably in 2013. Realistically, it's also a safety issue, and it's just old. Like this thread. Which one will die first? I hope Fenway. Peacefully though.

thomas35forever
11-02-2008, 05:09 PM
Like trying to resurrect a ninety-six year old ballpark. See how silly it is?
So you make your point by bumping a thread that has been dead for three-and-a-half years? On a White Sox board no less? Get a life.

DumpJerry
11-02-2008, 05:33 PM
I am a Sox fan. A RED Sox fan, but I felt safe to post this here without getting banned on the Sox Sites.
1. We no longer ban people for bumping threads. I closed this because it is a dead topic with us.
2. We welcome the fans of other teams as long as you don't troll.
3. Are you saying there were "problems" with you on Red Sox boards?

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