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NSSoxFan
03-15-2005, 02:57 PM
Good to see our old friend Jose getting some love.

Linky (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050315&content_id=967392&vkey=spt2005news&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

MIgrenade
03-15-2005, 03:22 PM
Wow, John Snyder, what ever happened to him.

mantis1212
03-15-2005, 04:09 PM
I can't wait until the Dodgers come here this year so I can give Manos the standing-O he deserves...

SoxFan76
03-15-2005, 07:46 PM
Jose will forever be one of my favorites.

NSSoxFan
03-15-2005, 07:53 PM
Jose will forever be one of my favorites.

Mine as well.

spawn
03-15-2005, 07:54 PM
I got noting but love for Jose...I hated his strikeouts, but the guy was a leader. I hope he does well in LA....

SoxFan76
03-15-2005, 09:05 PM
I got noting but love for Jose...I hated his strikeouts, but the guy was a leader. I hope he does well in LA....

Leadership of course, but I was thinking more along the lines of all those clutch home runs. I mean it was almost automatic. I believe Hawk dubbed him the "King of the 3-run homer".

mantis1212
03-15-2005, 09:13 PM
Leadership of course, but I was thinking more along the lines of all those clutch home runs. I mean it was almost automatic. I believe Hawk dubbed him the "King of the 3-run homer".

I beleive it was actually the "Maestro of the 3-run homer" if I remember...

SoxFan76
03-15-2005, 09:14 PM
I beleive it was actually the "Maestro of the 3-run homer" if I remember...

Right, the Maestro. That sounds more like a Hawk nickname than the "King". heh

NonetheLoaiza
03-15-2005, 09:24 PM
...or was it "Meister"?...a Hawkism...

DVsoxfan
03-15-2005, 09:53 PM
...or was it "Meister"?...a Hawkism...

It was "Meister"

Stroker Ace
03-15-2005, 09:55 PM
It was "Meister"

Yeah, Meister of the golden sombrero

Brian26
03-15-2005, 10:06 PM
Hawk also coined the phrase...

:hawk

"Jose....he loves the MOMENT!"

Brian26
03-15-2005, 10:07 PM
I never knew Jose's nickname was "Tony". Interesting stuff.

Tracy also mentioned three veterans on the Dodgers team: Jose, Wilson Alvarez, and Olmaeda Saenz......all are former White Sox players.

The_Cheesiest_Idiot
03-15-2005, 11:24 PM
OVER RATED
*CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP*

glad he's gone. he was a liability to this team. a leader that took us nowhere.

SoxFan76
03-16-2005, 12:03 AM
Yeah, Meister of the golden sombrero

3rd times a charm. It was the MEISTER!!! How embarassing....heh

Cheese, come on man. Don't focus on the negatives. He provided many great moments for the White Sox, and I wish him nothing but the best for him in LA.

The_Cheesiest_Idiot
03-16-2005, 12:04 AM
3rd times a charm. It was the MEISTER!!! How embarassing....heh

Cheese, come on man. Don't focus on the negatives. He provided many great moments for the White Sox, and I wish him nothing but the best for him in LA.

sorry friend, i focus on what i see. i saw waaay more negatives to jose than positives. *shrug*

SoxFan76
03-16-2005, 12:12 AM
sorry friend, i focus on what i see. i saw waaay more negatives to jose than positives. *shrug*

If that's the way you want to look at things, then fine. Doesn't bother me.

SOX ADDICT '73
03-16-2005, 12:53 AM
Errors, slumps, and strikeouts aside, Valentin seemed like a genuinely nice guy with a definite flair for the dramatic. He certainly provided more than his share of thrills for Sox fans over the years. Jose may be gone, but his walkoff homer against Alfonseca and the sCrUBS in 2003 will live on forever as one of my fondest memories.

SomebodyToldMe
03-16-2005, 01:07 AM
sorry friend, i focus on what i see. i saw waaay more negatives to jose than positives. *shrug*

Exactly how I think. I wasn't a Valentin fan at all. Too many errors and K's for my liking. He always rode the bench in my ps2 baseball games.

MHOUSE
03-16-2005, 01:51 AM
As a leader and a clubhouse guy/teammate he seemed like one of the better guys out there. He certainly hit a few dramatic homers, but I don't recall him getting many clutch hits in 3-2 extra-inning games. The errors, Ks, etc. caught up to the dramatic stuff in my mind.

StillMissOzzie
03-16-2005, 02:17 AM
Errors, slumps, and strikeouts aside, Valentin seemed like a genuinely nice guy with a definite flair for the dramatic. He certainly provided more than his share of thrills for Sox fans over the years. Jose may be gone, but his walkoff homer against Alfonseca and the sCrUBS in 2003 will live on forever as one of my fondest memories.

He had some downside, but he was CLUTCH many times in his career with the Sox:
1) I was at the Sox / sCrUB game where he hit the walk-off HR
2) I was at the game vs. the Yankmees where he got the game winning hit off of Mariano Rivera
3) I loved the Sosa mock when he hit a homer at Wrigley Field vs. the sCrUBS

And if I'm at one of those Sox-Dodgers games, I too will stand & applaud, at least for his first AB

SMO
:gulp:

34 Inch Stick
03-16-2005, 09:01 AM
I understand that some people were annoyed with Jose's deficiencies. I join you in that annoyance.

However I choose to remember Jose for things like getting Jamie Navarro out of town and openly mocking Sammy when the rest of the world seemed to gush over the fraud.

wdelaney72
03-16-2005, 09:04 AM
Jose sucked.

Goodbye and good riddance.

Frater Perdurabo
03-16-2005, 09:10 AM
Jose's HR totals should drop in spacious Dodger Stadium. This also means his average should sink. Then again, he'll face inferior National League pitching. About a wash. I'd still rather have Uribe than Valentin this year, although I too shall miss his dramatic walk-offs.

Ol' No. 2
03-16-2005, 10:03 AM
Jose sucked.

Goodbye and good riddance.Boy, the "what have you done for me lately" crowd is really going strong today. For those with short memories, Valentin was a key in the 2000 team, both on the field and in the clubhouse, and was pretty effective in 2001 as well. Beginning in 2002 his BA and OBP started to drop. It happens to all players, some sooner than others. If you want to focus on the negatives, go ahead. I choose to remember him for the positives.