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hose
03-13-2005, 09:35 AM
Voted Most Valuable player his sophomore year, posted a 7-1 record with a 2.37 era his junior and final season in college.

Was 15-3 with a 2.72 era and led the American Association in wins. Also only gave up 139 hits in 165.2 innings with 144 k's and 40 walks. Oppone ts only hit .225 against him , the lowest in the league. Won 10 consecutive decisions.
Named pitcher of the month by AA twice.

Was named by Baseball America as the #2 prospect in the organization prior to the season and #1 prospect in a postseason survey.

Was named to the midseason and post league All-Stars teams.
Was also selected to the Class AAA and Minor League All-Star teams by Baseball America, was named to the Topp/National Association Class AAA All-StarTeam.

samram
03-13-2005, 09:37 AM
Is that Kip Wells?

hose
03-13-2005, 09:37 AM
no

BearSox
03-13-2005, 10:54 AM
Scott Ruffcorn?

Brian26
03-13-2005, 11:18 AM
Tom Drees.

TheBull
03-13-2005, 11:27 AM
Scott Ruffcorn?

I'm going with Ruffcorn too.

Stroker Ace
03-13-2005, 02:11 PM
Scott Ruffcorn?

So am I

dugwood31
03-13-2005, 02:20 PM
My vote's with Ruffcorn too. He did pitch in college, right?

SpammySosa
03-13-2005, 02:25 PM
I checked the back of my baseball cards and it is indeed Scott Ruffcorn. :D:

hose
03-13-2005, 02:52 PM
And the Sox bust is......... ex-Baylor Bear , SCOTT RUFFCORN.

Ruffcorn never won a game in his brief ML career.:o:

Lip Man 1
03-13-2005, 10:01 PM
Remember when he, James Baldwin and Rod Bolton were going to be the next generation of star Sox pitching?

At least Baldwin had two very good years.

Lip

SOXintheBURGH
03-13-2005, 10:10 PM
Remember when he, James Baldwin and Rod Bolton were going to be the next generation of star Sox pitching?

At least Baldwin had two very good years.

Lip

Wow.. Rod Bolton. There's a name I forgot all about.

mike squires
03-13-2005, 11:25 PM
I saw Ruffcorn not all that long ago in Indianpolis warming up in the outfield. Triple A game...

rainbow6
03-14-2005, 01:08 AM
>At least Baldwin had two very good years.

>Lip

I was a fan of James Baldwin, but it may be a bit of a stretch to say he had any years that fell in the "very good" catagory...he couldn't win 15 games and always sported an ERA in the neighborhood of 5.00....essentially the precursor to Garland.

BTW, this being my first post, I've been a big fan of this site the past couple of years and have made this one of my first stops for Sox news...thanks to everyone here for the entertainment....

Luke.

rdivaldi
03-14-2005, 01:14 AM
First, :welcome:

Secondly though, JB did pitch pretty well in 1996, 2000, and 2001. He just could never live up the the hype that preceded him.

The_Cheesiest_Idiot
03-14-2005, 01:54 AM
too many busts to consider

Lip Man 1
03-14-2005, 02:46 AM
Rainbow:

In 1996 he started out 9-1. It wasn't his fault the Sox bullpen set the record for most blown save chances in a season and lost an almost sure Wild Card spot. That dubious record has since been broken by the Orioles.

In 2000 he was the ace of the staff despite missing a month and won the All Star Game in Atlanta.

Sounds like two good years to me.

Lip

StillMissOzzie
03-14-2005, 03:06 AM
Remember when he, James Baldwin and Rod Bolton were going to be the next generation of star Sox pitching?

At least Baldwin had two very good years.

Lip

Yeah, really. Didn't Schuler consider these the untouchable trio?

SMO
:gulp:

Lip Man 1
03-14-2005, 01:27 PM
Schueler considered anyone wearing a Sox minor league uniform untouchable. Which explains why the organization blew possible playoff chances in 1991 and 1996. In 1997 there was the little matter of the 'White Flag deal,' which was partially his fault and his 'untouchable' philosophy explained why the team failed to go deep into the post season in 2000.

Some G.M. eh?

Lip

rainbow6
03-14-2005, 07:54 PM
Baldwin wasn't the ace of the 2000 staff - Sirotka had more wins and an ERA well under 4.00...a case could also be made for Eldred before he was hurt.

I suppose I was splitting hairs with Baldwin - good years, yes. "Very Good" made me think back to his inability to ever really breakout and be a front of the rotation guy..

I really should change my log in name because being called 'Rainbow' makes me feel creepy.

Luke








Rainbow:

In 1996 he started out 9-1. It wasn't his fault the Sox bullpen set the record for most blown save chances in a season and lost an almost sure Wild Card spot. That dubious record has since been broken by the Orioles.

In 2000 he was the ace of the staff despite missing a month and won the All Star Game in Atlanta.

Sounds like two good years to me.

Lip

Lip Man 1
03-14-2005, 09:18 PM
Umm Rainbow...he was 11-4 at the All Star Break then got hurt along with everyone else on the Sox staff that year and missed six weeks. When he came back he wasn't the same because the injury wasn't healed. He and Eldred set the tone for the season not Sirotka.

Baldwin was the ace of that staff.

Lip

rainbow6
03-14-2005, 10:03 PM
I guess we'll agree to disagree...when I think of the ace of a staff I consider the entire year, not a hot start cut short by an injury. Sirotka (if my memory serves) was consistant throughout the year, won 15 games with an era in the mid-threes....by years end I consisdered him to be the go-to guy. Baldwin's post injury performance looked suspiciously like his pre-2000 self- a 5.00 ERA pitcher, which he was.

I can't fathom calling a guy with three wins after the all-star break and an era near 4.70 the 'ace' of the staff for the entire year...

If that's the criteria, we have an ace in Garland!

Luke

Bucktown
03-15-2005, 10:56 PM
James Baldwin, 2000 All Star game winner.

MHOUSE
03-16-2005, 02:34 AM
I think Bladwin is fighting for the 5th starter's job in Baltimore this Spring. I remember reading that somewhere and I think he won his first start. He's been back to the majors with....KC? since the White Sox.