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C-Dawg
03-11-2005, 09:31 PM
Luckily I missed the first game ever at the new Comiskey Park (the 16-0 beating from the Tigers) but I attended the second game, which was comparatively quiet with the Sox losing 2-1. I just ran across these pics, which I've scanned for you all to see. The originals are kodachrome slides; unfortunately I don't have the best scanner but hopefully these look decent. I had to play around with the contrast a little.

Crowds make their way to the new park as the old Comiskey waits in the background:

http://img218.exs.cx/img218/3340/entry25rh.th.jpg (http://img218.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img218&image=entry25rh.jpg)

The scoreboard - and everything else - in BLUE! It sure looks garish when we look back on it now:

http://img149.exs.cx/img149/1196/score21nh.th.jpg (http://img149.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img149&image=score21nh.jpg)

I suppose this view hasn't really changed too much, except for the new ribbon scoreboards:

http://img218.exs.cx/img218/9877/diamond23aj.th.jpg (http://img218.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img218&image=diamond23aj.jpg)

I had forgotten how the old bullpens were located:

http://img218.exs.cx/img218/747/rf28bf.th.jpg (http://img218.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img218&image=rf28bf.jpg)

Frank Thomas at First as Jeff Torborg and Carlton Fisk confer with Scott Radinsky. Ozzie Guillen is seen walking over to join the discussion:

http://img218.exs.cx/img218/6466/frankthomas26gj.th.jpg (http://img218.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img218&image=frankthomas26gj.jpg)

Sparky Anderson disputes a pickoff attempt at First as Dan Pasqua waits. A young Sammy Sosa is barely visible in the background after, I assume, striking out:

http://img218.exs.cx/img218/4620/sparky20cc.th.jpg (http://img218.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img218&image=sparky20cc.jpg)

I also took a lot of pics of the Old Comiskey demolition on that day; they are so sad so I only scanned the ones of the new park. The weird thing, is that I never thought to take my camera when I went to the old park. I could kick myself for that now!

The Racehorse
03-11-2005, 09:40 PM
Nice work C-Dawg. :cool:

jake27
03-11-2005, 09:48 PM
thanks for the pics. when you got time i would love to see the other ones you took of old comiskey

house215
03-11-2005, 10:15 PM
Wow, I guess I can really apperciate how far Comiskullar has come. When did the Sox start putting names on the jerseys?

zach074
03-11-2005, 10:19 PM
These pictures are great proof of how much better the park looks with the renovations. Things I tend not to remember like the bullpens, and how ugly that wooden box in center field was.

kingpin_rcs
03-11-2005, 10:29 PM
When did the Sox start putting names on the jerseys?

Actually, the White Sox were one of the first teams (if not THE first team) to put names on theback of jerseys. Im pretty sure this started back in the 50's or 60's.

FightingBillini
03-11-2005, 10:34 PM
Actually, the White Sox were one of the first teams (if not THE first team) to put names on theback of jerseys. Im pretty sure this started back in the 50's or 60's.

You are correct. Veeck was the first to put names on baseball jerseys. They started on the road jerseys in 1960. I think he meant on the current jerseys. They added them in 1997 when the got Belle. I remember because they started the superhero commercials with Thomas, Ventura, and Belle before the season started. I was shocked and pleased the first time I saw the it, because they had names on the jerseys for the first time.
There is another thread about this, but I will say it again, I think we should always have names on jerseys. Without the names, the Sox look like a high school team that doesnt put names on the jerseys because they used them for 10 years.

SaltyPretzel
03-11-2005, 10:35 PM
Wow, I guess I can really apperciate how far Comiskullar has come. When did the Sox start putting names on the jerseys?

Before the '97 season when they signed Albert Belle. I assume to sell more jerseys.

Stroker Ace
03-12-2005, 05:07 PM
Good pics

Foulke You
03-12-2005, 07:07 PM
These pictures are great proof of how much better the park looks with the renovations. Things I tend not to remember like the bullpens, and how ugly that wooden box in center field was.

Let's also not forget "the moat" that seperated the outfield grandstand from the outfield wall. I remember, even back in '91 when the park opened, scratching my head wondering why they left that gap between the fence and the outfield wall. It just made no sense to me, they didn't even use the space for anything.:?:

Also, one change along the baselines that you might have forgotten is that extra seating was added in 2001 creating less foul ground down the lines and bringing the fans closer to the field. If you compare C-Dawg's pic from a more current one, you can see the difference.

Overall, I love our ballpark's renovations. It truly has a much better look and feel than it did back in 1991. I think much of the criticism that is leveled upon it now, is undeserved. Without a doubt, it is definitely the best place in Chicago to catch a ballgame.:cool:

C-Dawg
03-12-2005, 08:39 PM
Also, one change along the baselines that you might have forgotten is that extra seating was added in 2001 creating less foul ground down the lines and bringing the fans closer to the field.

I wonder: By adding more seats along the foul lines, and new seats where the old bullpens were, and the little triangular sections on either side of the fandeck (Sections 100 and 164), do all these new seats come anywhere near equalling the number removed from the upper deck when they reconfigured the roof? I suspect not, since the NEW bullpens displaced a number of seats.... When I hear people criticize our ballpark, I like to be able to tell them the loss of seating in the upper deck was mostly made up for by adding lots of new desireable seating very close to the field. Maybe not 100% correct, but at least I'm leading them in the right direction.

VivaOzzie
03-12-2005, 08:56 PM
Let's also not forget "the moat" that seperated the outfield grandstand from the outfield wall. I remember, even back in '91 when the park opened, scratching my head wondering why they left that gap between the fence and the outfield wall. It just made no sense to me, they didn't even use the space for anything.:?:



I remember being like 10 and sitting up in front of the moat and being pissed because it made it so homers could fall in there. But there was some groundskeeper or something that sat out there in left and would talk to the kids and stuff. He would throw up a ball once in a while too it was pretty decent. I got one once and was no longer pissed at the moat.:bandance:

Brian26
03-12-2005, 09:00 PM
I remember being like 10 and sitting up in front of the moat and being pissed because it made it so homers could fall in there. But there was some groundskeeper or something that sat out there in left and would talk to the kids and stuff. He would throw up a ball once in a while too it was pretty decent. I got one once and was no longer pissed at the moat.:bandance:

I used to hit BP early in '96, and there was a guy that had devised some sort of contraption with a empty soup can with the top cut off and tied to a piece of string. He would stand in the front row and retrieve all of the BP homers by lowering this thing down on top of the balls and then hoisting it back up.

Frank the Tank
03-12-2005, 09:48 PM
What jumped out at me is how on the day after the home opener of a new ballpark there could be so many open blue seats. I guess nothing ever changes. I'm not going to complain about how the ballpark looked bad because I thought it was great when it opened.

cwsox
03-12-2005, 09:50 PM
thank you for the pcture of Comiskey next to the new park - I have been trying to visualize that for years, thank you, and I'd love to see more.

The_Cheesiest_Idiot
03-12-2005, 09:52 PM
i remember driving up to old comiskey when they were building the new one thinking DAYUM that's a crazy big building

voodoochile
03-12-2005, 10:33 PM
If you post these images in the WSI Photo Gallery (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/4images/) they will be viewable by all members LONG after this thread has faded into the history of the message board.

Irishsox1
03-12-2005, 11:32 PM
If there was one thing that I remember from going into the new stadium back in 1991 was how sterile it was and that it looked like they had forgot to turn off the cement mixer. I still have a lot of complaints about the current status of the stadium, but it's a lot better.

C-Dawg
03-13-2005, 07:54 AM
There were lots of empty seats in a few pics because they let us in waaayy early for the game - like 2 hours before the game. We took turns walking around and snapping pics until game time.

By the way, I'll scan a few of the demolition pics and get them posted, since there seems to be interest. Check back later today. :smile:

Wsoxmike59
03-13-2005, 09:50 AM
Nice pics CDawg. I especially like the one of the CF Scoreboard and OF fences in their "original state".

I was at the Opener and was just absolutely bummed that we got shellacked so badly by the Tigers. I love the story how the following day Jack McDowell and a couple other players snuck back into Old Comiskey Park (it was sealed off with fencing from the Demolition Co.) and burned their uniforms from the Opening game on the old mound as if to remove the bad karma it gave them.


One of these days I'll have to re hook up my scanner and get some of my Sox pictures posted here at WSI.

C-Dawg
03-13-2005, 10:00 AM
OK here comes the demolition pics :(: Again, these are from "Game 2" at the new Comiskey Park. These are very sad, so if you have fond memories of the old place, you may not want to look.

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The right-field side of the old park, looking north:

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/9903/buses27xt.th.jpg (http://img88.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img88&image=buses27xt.jpg)

Another view from a different angle; note the temporary stairway to get into the new park:

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/9853/stands21ht.th.jpg (http://img88.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img88&image=stands21ht.jpg)

A look further into the park. Not the tree with the sign in the foreground "RESALE OF TICKETS AT ANY PRICE PROHIBITED". Its still there!:

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/258/crane20wy.th.jpg (http://img88.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img88&image=crane20wy.jpg)

Here's an earlier shot, from March 16, 1990. I'm up on the Metra/Rock Island tracks! I'd probably wind up in jail if I tried this now:

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/9894/35thstreet21xc.th.jpg (http://img88.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img88&image=35thstreet21xc.jpg)

ewokpelts
03-13-2005, 11:00 AM
What jumped out at me is how on the day after the home opener of a new ballpark there could be so many open blue seats. I guess nothing ever changes. I'm not going to complain about how the ballpark looked bad because I thought it was great when it opened.
dont forget that it was april, and frozen too...i remember that week...
Gene

paciorek1983
03-13-2005, 10:49 PM
What jumped out at me is how on the day after the home opener of a new ballpark there could be so many open blue seats. I guess nothing ever changes. I'm not going to complain about how the ballpark looked bad because I thought it was great when it opened.


Open blue seats? That opening day weekend was cold. Also, as the months went on, and over the first few years of the park, there weren't that many empty seats. I remember at the time, wondering how the park would look in the lean years, not that I ever wanted to see that.

I, also have some demolition pictures, as well as some pictures of inside the new park as it was being constructed. A relative of a friend of mine who worked for one of the contractors gave me some of the photos. Whenever I get a new computer that can handle my scanner, I will post those pics.

The whole new park/old park thing was kind of weird, and exciting at the same time. I blew off my classes the first day of demolition of old Comiskey to go down and watch. It hurt to see that wrecking ball swing into the place. I remember as it was happening, a truck driver blew his horn as he drove by on the Ryan in acknowledgement of the happening. It was a strange feeling.

I was glad we had a new ballpark, considering what the alternative could have been--aka--Florida. And the new park was fresh and clean. My impression at my first game at the new park was, that, this is what it must be like to be at Dodger Stadium. Dodger Stadium, at that time was considered a premier ballpark.

So, I was very proud of our park. I did feel though, that, it seemed a little plain. A friend of mine and I were discussing it's plainess during a game in '91, and I said that I thought that over time, it would go through some changes. In some ways, to me, it didn't look finished. And what do ya know.............

Our park is getting better looking all the time. And they're still not finished.:smile:

OEO Magglio
03-13-2005, 10:55 PM
If there was one thing that I remember from going into the new stadium back in 1991 was how sterile it was and that it looked like they had forgot to turn off the cement mixer. I still have a lot of complaints about the current status of the stadium, but it's a lot better.
Can I ask what you have against the stadium right now?? It's one of the nicest parks in baseball, imo.

Foulke You
03-14-2005, 11:34 AM
Can I ask what you have against the stadium right now?? It's one of the nicest parks in baseball, imo.

Agreed. I love the park too, especially post renovations. It is going to look even better once the green seats are in place too. The only critiques I have of the place are minor ones: The park faces away from the skyline (nothing you can do about that), the return ramps block part of the view of the ballpark from the outside (again, not much you can do now but they did spruce them up a bit with some black and gray paint), and no statues outside the park (the ones inside are nice but I want some outside too...maybe they'll put the Fisk one there?).

Other than that, our park is awesome. Best food, best sightlines, informative scoreboards, THE BEST grass playing surface in all of baseball (thanks Roger Bossard!), circular concourse that allows you to walk around the whole park, big parking lots for tailgating, exploding scoreboard, easy access to the L, great pix of the retired numbers on the outfield wall, comfortable seats with a bit of elbow room (anyone been to the Allstate Arena recently? All 4 inches of seat?), and the best and most knowledgable fans in all of baseball. What more can you want?

Brian26
03-14-2005, 11:41 AM
and no statues outside the park (the ones inside are nice but I want some outside too...maybe they'll put the Fisk one there?).

Heh. There's some symbolic irony in that statement- Fisk's statue being outside the park, much like he was locked outside the stadium before the '93 playoffs.

wdelaney72
03-14-2005, 12:42 PM
If there was one thing that I remember from going into the new stadium back in 1991 was how sterile it was and that it looked like they had forgot to turn off the cement mixer. I still have a lot of complaints about the current status of the stadium, but it's a lot better.

You're right... ample parking, convenient location right off the expressway, wide concourses, great food, tailgating, Nancy Foust, great sight-lines, the bull-pen sports bar, the CF fan deck are all things to complain about.

I realize everyone is entitled to their opinion, but your statement is very disturbing. We have one of the best ballparks in baseball, take some pride in it. Every year, my Cub fan friends come to a game with me, and every year they all overwhelmingly admit that USCF is a GREAT place to watch baseball. Is there a ballpark that you've been to that is decidedly better? I've been to quite a few, and the answer to that question is "No".

The only improvement USCF needs is a bunch of World Series championship banners on display.