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CubsfansareDRUNK
02-18-2005, 11:15 AM
You know how all of you guys are always saying "i badgered that cub fan with stats and they just sat there staring at me blankly". Well what do you say? Do you use batting averages and wins/losses? Aww shoosh, probably just any numbers will do i guess

Palehose13
02-18-2005, 11:23 AM
You know how all of you guys are always saying "i badgered that cub fan with stats and they just sat there staring at me blankly". Well what do you say? Do you use batting averages and wins/losses? Aww shoosh, probably just any numbers will do i guess

One thing that has shut them up this off-season has been: "Hey, congrats on finally getting back-to-back wining seasons in my lifetime." :wink:

eastchicagosoxfan
02-18-2005, 11:45 AM
The great draft choices they've made because they consistently lose 90+ games. I can get under the skin of many Cub fans by invoking the name of Mike Harkey, or even Ty Griffin. Two winning seasons in a row, that's almost Sox-like? Greg Maddux spent te best years of his career in Atlanta. 1969. In general, for a team to lose that consistently, for as long as they have, and to squander opportunity after opportunity to get talent, and yet fail, translates to LOSERS in my book. Moises Alou and Steve Bartman?

santo=dorf
02-18-2005, 12:34 PM
"Bad" Season for Podsednik: .313 OBP, 70 SB
Corey Patterson's career numbers: .303 OBP, 71 SB

I think it's obvious why Patterson is the next Carlos Beltran. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Iwritecode
02-18-2005, 12:42 PM
Ask them when Wood is going to win more than 14 games in one season...

jabrch
02-18-2005, 12:51 PM
"Bad" Season for Podsednik: .313 OBP, 70 SB
Corey Patterson's career numbers: .303 OBP, 71 SB



That's a good one! Never thought about that before.

DumpJerry
02-18-2005, 12:54 PM
Starting with the 2000 season, the Sox have about 80 more games.

Cubs finished in third place last year, Sox in second.

jdm2662
02-18-2005, 01:56 PM
Ask them when Wood is going to win more than 14 games in one season...

I point that out whenever I hear any one say "He's a 20 game winner!!!" I then point out that is Danny Wright's career high in wins!

Cubs finished in third place last year, Sox in second

To me, that does nothing except remind us that they both didn't get the job done last season...
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kittle42
02-18-2005, 03:10 PM
Here's a stat:

100% of Cub fans are idiots.

CubKilla
02-18-2005, 04:07 PM
You'd blow most Cub fans away if you just use common sense.

C-Dawg
02-18-2005, 07:10 PM
Cubs finished in third place last year, Sox in second.

Someone needs to remind Brad Palmer of this fact. Just now on the 6:00 Channel 7 news he said "Last year both the Cubs and Sox finished in second..." I was going to start a new topic, but just decided to toss it in here instead.

Whitesox029
02-18-2005, 07:33 PM
Someone needs to remind Brad Palmer of this fact. Just now on the 6:00 Channel 7 news he said "Last year both the Cubs and Sox finished in second..." I was going to start a new topic, but just decided to toss it in here instead.
Strange...I never knew the Wild Card spot went to the best 3rd place team...

Mohoney
02-18-2005, 07:44 PM
Ask them when Wood is going to win more than 14 games in one season...

Here's one that get's them going every time.

Mark Buehrle 2004: 16-10

Kerry Wood and Mark Prior COMBINED 2004: 14-13

Tell them that Buehrle is better than Wood and Prior COMBINED, watch them laugh you off, and then throw this at them.

Also, refer to Kerry Wood as an under .500 pitcher, watch them laugh, and then remind them that "Kid K" went a horrific 8-9 last year.

It really bothers Cub fans when you know more about their team then they do, and you present indisputable facts to them that they can't deny.

dcb33
02-18-2005, 09:29 PM
This does the trick when Cubs fans talk about great JH and the Cubs organization is compared to how bad and cheap KW and JR and the Sox are:

The Cubs spent $91,101,667 and drew 3,170,184 fans, meaning for each person who saw a game at the Urinal, the Cubs spent $28.74 on players' salaries.
The White Sox spent $68,262,500 and drew 1,930,537 fans (none of which purchased tickets that were scalped by a subsidary of the team), for an average of $35.36 spent on players' salaries per fan.
Had the Cubs spent $35.36 per fan like the Sox, the Cubs payroll would've been $112,097,706. Who's cheap now? For that kind of coin maybe the Tribune Co. could've bought Cubs fans their precious World Series last year... or at least fielded a decent closer!

Also, it helps to point out that the Cubs only won six more games last year while spending a whopping 22,839,167 more than the Sox. That will shut any FOJH up quickly.

Ol' No. 2
02-18-2005, 09:57 PM
This does the trick when Cubs fans talk about great JH and the Cubs organization is compared to how bad and cheap KW and JR and the Sox are:

The Cubs spent $91,101,667 and drew 3,170,184 fans, meaning for each person who saw a game at the Urinal, the Cubs spent $28.74 on players' salaries.
The White Sox spent $68,262,500 and drew 1,930,537 fans (none of which purchased tickets that were scalped by a subsidary of the team), for an average of $35.36 spent on players' salaries per fan.
Had the Cubs spent $35.36 per fan like the Sox, the Cubs payroll would've been $112,097,706. Who's cheap now? For that kind of coin maybe the Tribune Co. could've bought Cubs fans their precious World Series last year... or at least fielded a decent closer!

Also, it helps to point out that the Cubs only won six more games last year while spending a whopping 22,839,167 more than the Sox. That will shut any FOJH up quickly.
:hawk I luv it when you analyze.

C-Dawg
02-18-2005, 10:00 PM
Also, it helps to point out that the Cubs only won six more games last year while spending a whopping 22,839,167 more than the Sox. That will shut any FOJH up quickly.

And in 2003, the Cubs only won TWO games more than the Sox did.

Fake Chet Lemon
02-19-2005, 09:50 PM
NOMAR- Cub fans get irate when I point out that the Red Sox went 42-18 after ridding themselves of this clubhouse tool (not to mention winning the World Series).

WOOD- Cub fans love hearing that he is about one game a year better than John Garland. Wood may be the WORST #2 starter in baseball and has never and will never win more than 14 games.

PAYROLL- Continually refer to the Cubs as the $100,000,000 losers or the $100,000,000 chokers.

ATTENDANCE- When they lose and still sell out, point out that their fans know nothing about baseball. Real baseball fans would not support crap, they would stay home to voice their displeasure. Cub fans are therefore not baseball fans, but Wrigley Field - Yuppie bar fans.

Takatsufan
02-19-2005, 10:25 PM
I just like mentioning the 1906 Cubs-Sox world series over and over again because Cubs fans can not ever top the 1906 line

Fredsox
02-20-2005, 07:00 AM
Here's a stat:

100% of Cub fans are idiots.

My nomination for post of the year. Not that I'm bitter at Cub fans.......

white sox bill
02-20-2005, 09:19 AM
Seems like whenever you give "significance" to something, you give it notoriety. If the subject comes up in conversation, I simply tell the cub fan that I'm a Sox fan and really don't follow or know much about the other team in Chicago. They look at me in disbelief.:smile:

chisoxmike
02-20-2005, 12:16 PM
I like this one...

From 2000-2004

The Sox record is 428-382 with ONE playoff appearance.
The Cubs record is 392-413 with ONE playoff appearance.


You could probably go back even further and the Sox would have a better win - loss record.

Cowhead418
02-20-2005, 04:35 PM
I just say to them that all-time the Sox are 20 games over .500 when playing against the Cubs AND the Sox have won a World Series against the Flubs in 1906. That usually gets them.

MRKARNO
02-20-2005, 05:24 PM
Mark Buehrle's career low in wins with 100+ IP in a season is 14....which happens to be Kerry Wood's career high in wins.

I don't like using wins, but for those who do it's a good one to use.

ChiWhiteSox1337
02-20-2005, 05:44 PM
Mark Buehrle's career low in wins with 100+ IP in a season is 14....which happens to be Kerry Wood's career high in wins.

I don't like using wins, but for those who do it's a good one to use.
Some Cubs troll on AIM(must've gotten my AIM screenname off of this board) asked me why I thought Buehrle was better than Mark Prior or Kerry Wood. I just said that Mark Buehrle's IP total from last season was 245 1/3 while Wood and Prior combined only had 14 more with the total of 259 IP. With that said, he never responded during that conversation and hasn't bugged me either.

Jerome
02-20-2005, 07:55 PM
This does the trick when Cubs fans talk about great JH and the Cubs organization is compared to how bad and cheap KW and JR and the Sox are:

The Cubs spent $91,101,667 and drew 3,170,184 fans, meaning for each person who saw a game at the Urinal, the Cubs spent $28.74 on players' salaries.
The White Sox spent $68,262,500 and drew 1,930,537 fans (none of which purchased tickets that were scalped by a subsidary of the team), for an average of $35.36 spent on players' salaries per fan.
Had the Cubs spent $35.36 per fan like the Sox, the Cubs payroll would've been $112,097,706. Who's cheap now? For that kind of coin maybe the Tribune Co. could've bought Cubs fans their precious World Series last year... or at least fielded a decent closer!

Also, it helps to point out that the Cubs only won six more games last year while spending a whopping 22,839,167 more than the Sox. That will shut any FOJH up quickly.


Ooooh, thats a good one.

I just like to use Wood's career high in wins stat and point out that their manager is a dumbass for not playing Walker last year. If Grudzielanik is so great, why did they let him go? Instead of playing the obviously better Grudz and Walker IF, they went with Grudz and *cough* Ramon Martinez/Jose Macias.

Irishsox1
02-22-2005, 11:08 AM
I mention to serious Cubs fans (actual baseball fans, not the recent college grad from Iowa who moved to Chicago to get married then move back)

What happened during the 8 run 8th?

5 outs from the World Series..huh?

Dusty Baker's been part of the 2 biggest playoff collapse's of all time...2002 World Series and 2003 playoffs. Maybe its him?

SOXintheBURGH
02-22-2005, 11:26 AM
I mention to serious Cubs fans (actual baseball fans, not the recent college grad from Iowa who moved to Chicago to get married then move back)

What happened during the 8 run 8th?

5 outs from the World Series..huh?

Dusty Baker's been part of the 2 biggest playoff collapse's of all time...2002 World Series and 2003 playoffs. Maybe its him?

mmmmmm... Dustiny.

Jabroni
02-22-2005, 11:37 AM
mmmmmm... Dustiny.Don't you mean, "Bustiny"? :tongue:

Stroker Ace
02-22-2005, 06:40 PM
Game 6, top of the 8th, Alex Gonzalez goes to field a routine ground ball.

chisoxmike
02-22-2005, 07:29 PM
Game 6, top of the 8th, Alex Gonzalez goes to field a routine ground ball.

Priceless.

All you even have to say is "Game 6."

SOX ADDICT '73
02-22-2005, 08:08 PM
Is there a stat for how many Cub "fans" are injured by line drive foul balls each year because, instead of watching the action on the field, they're talking on their cell phones?

C-Dawg
02-22-2005, 08:27 PM
What happened during the 8 run 8th?

5 outs from the World Series..huh?



And it was in a playoff series where the Cubs had enjoyed a THREE games to one lead!!

:D:

AZChiSoxFan
02-24-2005, 11:56 AM
This does the trick when Cubs fans talk about great JH and the Cubs organization is compared to how bad and cheap KW and JR and the Sox are:

The Cubs spent $91,101,667 and drew 3,170,184 fans, meaning for each person who saw a game at the Urinal, the Cubs spent $28.74 on players' salaries.
The White Sox spent $68,262,500 and drew 1,930,537 fans (none of which purchased tickets that were scalped by a subsidary of the team), for an average of $35.36 spent on players' salaries per fan.
Had the Cubs spent $35.36 per fan like the Sox, the Cubs payroll would've been $112,097,706. Who's cheap now? For that kind of coin maybe the Tribune Co. could've bought Cubs fans their precious World Series last year... or at least fielded a decent closer!

Also, it helps to point out that the Cubs only won six more games last year while spending a whopping 22,839,167 more than the Sox. That will shut any FOJH up quickly.

Would it be correct to assume that the Cubs made more profit last year (most years) than the Sox?

spawn
02-24-2005, 01:19 PM
1) What teams fans are stupid enough to believe in cures?

2) Bartman didn't boot that double play groundball in the 8th inning of Game 6....

3) So what's on the menu at Harry Carey's?

Iwritecode
02-24-2005, 02:03 PM
Would it be correct to assume that the Cubs made more profit last year (most years) than the Sox?

Well if the Sox started scalping their own tickets then they'd make more profit too...

AZChiSoxFan
02-24-2005, 03:16 PM
Well if the Sox started scalping their own tickets then they'd make more profit too...

The reason I asked the question is that I've often thought that when Scrubs fans call the Sox cheap, I would like to point out to them that the Scrubs are a lot more financially profitable team, and thus they could (should) spend more on payroll than they already do. What I'm saying, in effect, is that despite the fact that they have a higher payroll than the Sox, they are actually the cheap team. Make sense? It seems to me that the Scrubs make a lot more money than the Sox, but of course I don't know that, so that's why I threw the question out there.

Iwritecode
02-24-2005, 04:00 PM
The reason I asked the question is that I've often thought that when Scrubs fans call the Sox cheap, I would like to point out to them that the Scrubs are a lot more financially profitable team, and thus they could (should) spend more on payroll than they already do. What I'm saying, in effect, is that despite the fact that they have a higher payroll than the Sox, they are actually the cheap team. Make sense? It seems to me that the Scrubs make a lot more money than the Sox, but of course I don't know that, so that's why I threw the question out there.It would be a hard arguement to make without actually seeing the numbers. It's actually possible that they are spending most of the money they are bringing in.

I haven't seen the payroll numbers for 2005 yet but IIRC, they've already broken 100 million. That would probably put them in the top five in all of baseball.

That makes it difficult to call them cheap. Even if they aren't spending all they can. At least they aren't like the Tigers who are spending 15 million on a player with questionable health...

Jabroni
02-24-2005, 04:18 PM
It would be a hard arguement to make without actually seeing the numbers. It's actually possible that they are spending most of the money they are bringing in.

I haven't seen the payroll numbers for 2005 yet but IIRC, they've already broken 100 million. That would probably put them in the top five in all of baseball.

That makes it difficult to call them cheap. Even if they aren't spending all they can. At least they aren't like the Tigers who are spending 15 million on a player with questionable health...The Cubs are right around $104 million in payroll for 2005.