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bahn1225
02-01-2005, 12:16 PM
Richard Roeper, Sun-Times columnist and long time SOX fan,
has a great article in today's paper comparing Dick Allen to "you know who".


http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep01.html

jackbrohamer
02-01-2005, 12:39 PM
It's a good column, and I never knew this: "In 1973, the White Sox signed Allen to the richest contract in major league baseball history: three years at an estimated $225,000 a year."

SpammySosa
02-01-2005, 12:47 PM
It's a good column, and I never knew this: "In 1973, the White Sox signed Allen to the richest contract in major league baseball history: three years at an estimated $225,000 a year."

:reinsy
" I instructed Kenny to offer Beltran the same contract,but his agent never returned our calls."

cleogogo
02-01-2005, 12:49 PM
Thanks for the link. I only get to the paper on sunday. I really enjoyed the history on allen. He makes sammy look like a choir boy. It seems their were many other players with that lifestyle in the old days. Could a player like allen make it in todays game? It seems we tolerate a lot on the field, but tardiness and leaving games early? I don't think so.

Brian26
02-01-2005, 12:53 PM
:reinsy
" I instructed Kenny to offer Beltran the same contract,but his agent never returned our calls."

LOL! Nice! :D:

ChiSoxBobette
02-01-2005, 01:17 PM
[QUOTE=bahn1225]Richard Roeper, Sun-Times columnist and long time SOX fan,
has a great article in today's paper comparing Dick Allen to "you know who".


http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep01.html[/QUOTE (http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep01.html[/QUOTE)]

I know Dick Allen was a flake but to compare to shammee is a joke, at the very least shammee should have been run out of Chicago if not baseball for the simple fact he was caught using a corked bat , Dick Allen never needed to use a corked bat to hit those gigantic H.R's he hit. Just imagine what outrage there would have been from the chicago sports media if Frank Thomas was caught using a corked bat. Let the goof sosa go to baltimore who cares hes thier problem now.

Dan H
02-01-2005, 05:06 PM
I have my issues with Allen, but I think he had more talent than Sosa. It was too bad he wasted it. It hurt him and the White Sox.

ja1022
02-01-2005, 05:17 PM
When I think about Dick Allen I always remember what a great baserunner the guy was. That was really an unheralded aspect of his game.

SOXintheBURGH
02-01-2005, 05:52 PM
:reinsy
" I instructed Kenny to offer Beltran the same contract,but his agent never returned our calls."

Even though I type LOL at comments often.. this time I actually read that, and laughed out loud.

PAPChiSox729
02-01-2005, 06:57 PM
:reinsy
" I instructed Kenny to offer Beltran the same contract,but his agent never returned our calls."

Ha Ha!!! Good one!! :D:

bahn1225
02-01-2005, 10:54 PM
When I think about Dick Allen I always remember what a great baserunner the guy was. That was really an unheralded aspect of his game.

Dick Allen, Pat Kelly, Eddie Leon, Ed Hermann. . .

It makes you feel old but it was a different game then.
Can you imagine anyone of that era standing at home admiring their home run ball?
You know what would happen.
We all know what would happen.

bahn1225
02-07-2005, 04:00 PM
Richard Roeper has a MUST READ antidote about
Dick Allen at the bottom of today's (2/7/05) column:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep07.hmtl (http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep07.hmtl)


MUST READ!

Baby Fisk
02-07-2005, 04:14 PM
Richard Roeper has a MUST READ antidote about
Dick Allen at the bottom of today's (2/7/05) column:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep07.hmtl (http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep07.hmtl)


MUST READ!

Antidote? Did he get bitten by a snake?

Frater Perdurabo
02-07-2005, 05:45 PM
I was born after Allen's prime years had passed, so I have no memories of his career. I do, however, remember his moon shot during the Old Timers' game the day before the 1990 All Star Game at the Urinal. I was in the right field bleachers. Allen hit it deep onto the center field batter's eye, helping to deliver an American League victory. :bandance:

StillMissOzzie
02-07-2005, 06:32 PM
Richard Roeper has a MUST READ antidote about
Dick Allen at the bottom of today's (2/7/05) column:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep07.hmtl (http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep07.hmtl)


MUST READ!

Do you mean "anecdote"?
Your post looks like the front page of the National Enquirer...

JMO, your mileage may vary
SMO
:gulp:

NonetheLoaiza
02-07-2005, 06:48 PM
Antidote? Did he get bitten by a snake?

lol, nice

Johnny Mostil
02-07-2005, 06:49 PM
It's a good column, and I never knew this: "In 1973, the White Sox signed Allen to the richest contract in major league baseball history: three years at an estimated $225,000 a year."

I remember that contract. I was impressed that it gave him a higher salary than that for the president.

Lip Man 1
02-07-2005, 07:31 PM
Well he had a much better year then Nixon didn't he?

Lip

bahn1225
02-07-2005, 07:50 PM
:anon:
I guess I should have just said story.:thud:

Whatever you want to call it, it made my day.

MikeW
02-07-2005, 10:15 PM
I remember Dick Allen very well and there a couple of things that stand out in my mind about him. Chuck Tanner was really to much of a rah-rah guy at times but he was right when said that Allen saved the White Sox franchise. Up until 1972 the Sox had been pretty much forgotten not only by the Chicago fans but fans around the country in general. When Allen arrived, he renergized the franchise, the Sox had a 'true star' on their team. Too bad it didn't last long after Allen broke his leg in 1973 when Mike Epstein of the Angels crashed into him at first base killing any pennant hopes. By 1974, Allen lost his desire to play and 'retired' before the season ended. I prefer to remember the 1972 season when all was almost right with the world.

kittle42
02-07-2005, 10:56 PM
Roeper mentioned Lip today.

Johnny Mostil
02-07-2005, 11:00 PM
Well he had a much better year then Nixon didn't he?

Lip

I'd say so. (Didn't Ruth use that same line regarding whoever was president--Harding? Coolidge?--when he first got $80K per year?)

Best profile of Dick Allen I ever read--"The Vagabond" by Hal Bock.

Johnny Mostil
02-07-2005, 11:03 PM
Roeper mentioned Lip today.

It's a good story, too (last paragraphs of http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep07.html)

Nellie_Fox
02-07-2005, 11:42 PM
I just saw an ad for the new "redneck comedy tour" video. The guy who always has a cigarette and a drink in his hand said something like "if I'd only known the difference between an antidote and an anecdote, my friend would be alive today."

TDog
02-08-2005, 12:53 AM
Dick Allen, Pat Kelly, Eddie Leon, Ed Hermann. . .

It makes you feel old but it was a different game then.
Can you imagine anyone of that era standing at home admiring their home run ball?
You know what would happen.
We all know what would happen.

Actually, that was about the time when Reggie Jackson (who Bill Melton beat out for the home run title in 1971 and who tied the "retired" Dick Allen for the home run title in 1973) started standing at home plate and admiring his home run balls.

And 1972 was a year when Wilbur Wood pitched more shutouts than Kerry Wood has pitched in his career. Dick Allen was awesome, but the White Sox played like a solid team in 1972.

Bucktown
02-08-2005, 03:09 AM
I loved the Dick Allen story becasue I agree with the premise...The Sammy bashing is blown way out of proportion. If the biggest mistakes Sammy ever made were leaving the last game early and corking his bat then he is in some pretty good company.

There are a lot of corked bats and there always have been. My childhood idols, Al Kaline and Norm Cash, were admitted corkers.

The biggest mistakes I have ever made in my life make Sammy's slip-ups pale in comparison. My greatest accomplishments certainly pale in comparison to what Sammy has done.

I am so sick of Sox fans' retarded Sammy bashing. Did you like the George Bell deal? Let it go. What internal defect compels us to bash a future hall of famer when there are hundreds of players more worthy of our criticism?

Jabroni
02-08-2005, 03:18 AM
I loved the Dick Allen story becasue I agree with the premise...The Sammy bashing is blown way out of proportion. If the biggest mistakes Sammy ever made were leaving the last game early and corking his bat then he is in some pretty good company.

There are a lot of corked bats and there always have been. My childhood idols, Al Kaline and Norm Cash, were admitted corkers.

The biggest mistakes I have ever made in my life make Sammy's slip-ups pale in comparison. My greatest accomplishments certainly pale in comparison to what Sammy has done.

I am so sick of Sox fans' retarded Sammy bashing. Did you like the George Bell deal? Let it go. What internal defect compels us to bash a future hall of famer when there are hundreds of players more worthy of our criticism?:crossdresser "Hey big boy! Lookin' for a good time?"

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