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santo=dorf
01-30-2005, 03:02 PM
Take a look at the odds (http://205.134.167.60/lines/lines.cgi?device=browser&site=sbcom2&sport=526)to win the World Series.

New York Yankees 11-5
Boston Red Sox 6-1
St Louis Cardinals 10-1
Chicago Cubs 8-1
Anaheim Angels 10-1
Atlanta Braves 16-1
Houston Astros 40-1
Los Angeles Dodgers 25-1
San Diego Padres 20-1
Minnesota Twins 15-1
Oakland Athletics 45-1
Philadelphia Phillies 25-1
San Francisco Giants 18-1
Florida Marlins 22-1
Texas Rangers 30-1
New York Mets 15-1
Baltimore Orioles 40-1
Cleveland Indians 40-1
Chicago White Sox 60-1
Seattle Mariners 40-1
Cincinnati Reds 60-1
Toronto Blue Jays 100-1
Tampa Bay Devil Rays 200-1
Detroit Tigers 50-1
Colorado Rockies 300-1
Milwaukee Brewers 100-1
Washington Nationals 100-1
Pittsburgh Pirates 100-1
Kansas City Royals 200-1
Arizona Diamondbacks 40-1
Washington DC off

:rolleyes:

Can't wait for them to give out the odds for winning the division. Then I'll cash in. :bandance:

California Sox
01-30-2005, 03:11 PM
Wow. The Tigers have shorter odds than the Sox? I'm not as excited about "small ball" as everyone else here seems to be, but the Tigers? I guess it partially reflects the fact that there are not that many Sox fans. (The Cubs always have short odds because their fans always think that this is the year. Good luck with that Todd Hollandsworth, Corey Patterson, Jerry Hairston Jr. outfield.)

idseer
01-30-2005, 03:18 PM
i think a lot of people who haven't paid real close attention to this team don't understand the significance of the changes that have been made here. many will only see 2 big names from a slightly better than .500 club gone! and thomas in doubt. and the loss of another sort of big name (valentin) gone.
they will see a pitcher the yanks gave up on (contreras) and another who has been injured most of the last 2 years as being a big part of our staff, the dependance on a guy at second who has never played in the majors, an unpopular catcher, uribe at ss for the first time full time, an outfielder who stole a lot of bases last year but didn't hit well in his second year in the bigs, an injured retread in right ..........

in a certain light i'm surprised their odds are THAT good.:smile:

i believe there are good explanations for the changes they've made and we will be better than most think. but i do understand their doubts.

FightingBillini
01-30-2005, 03:18 PM
What a joke. Im not going to say the Sox will win the series, but they have as good a chance as anyone else. What makes this thing even more ridiculous is A) The Cubs are 8-1 after getting much worse this offseason. B) The Twins have 4x better odds than us. B) Teams this site feels are better than us include: Indians, Tigers, Mariners, Orioles, Mets, and the frigging D'Backs. If this site had any credibility before, it lost it.

This doesn't shock me at all. Nobody knows how good this team is. They are a "trendy" team, ESPN doesn't go nuts over them, even on our own station (Comcast) the Iguchi signing was like the 4th story of the nights, with two segments on possible Sosa trades before they mentioned the Sox. We will see how much these asses talk about the Cubs when Wrigley is condemned again in October and the Sox are in the playoffs.

MUsoxfan
01-30-2005, 03:19 PM
I'll put $50 down on 60/1 odds. That's like a gift.....

WhiteSoxFan84
01-30-2005, 03:19 PM
Funny how the O's and A's are ahead of us. Twins.... I can see why they're ahead of us (look at standings last 3 years), but it's stupid.

My site, SportsInteraction.com has the Sox around 40-1 to win the World Series. Right now the lines are closed, when they open ill post'em.

If you don't post the odds to win the division, PM me with them please.

chisoxmike
01-30-2005, 03:21 PM
Take a look at the odds (http://205.134.167.60/lines/lines.cgi?device=browser&site=sbcom2&sport=526)to win the World Series.

New York Yankees 11-5
Boston Red Sox 6-1
St Louis Cardinals 10-1
Chicago Cubs 8-1
Anaheim Angels 10-1
Atlanta Braves 16-1
Houston Astros 40-1
Los Angeles Dodgers 25-1
San Diego Padres 20-1
Minnesota Twins 15-1
Oakland Athletics 45-1
Philadelphia Phillies 25-1
San Francisco Giants 18-1
Florida Marlins 22-1
Texas Rangers 30-1
New York Mets 15-1
Baltimore Orioles 40-1
Cleveland Indians 40-1
Chicago White Sox 60-1
Seattle Mariners 40-1
Cincinnati Reds 60-1
Toronto Blue Jays 100-1
Tampa Bay Devil Rays 200-1
Detroit Tigers 50-1
Colorado Rockies 300-1
Milwaukee Brewers 100-1
Washington Nationals 100-1
Pittsburgh Pirates 100-1
Kansas City Royals 200-1
Arizona Diamondbacks 40-1
Washington DC off

:rolleyes:

Can't wait for them to give out the odds for winning the division. Then I'll cash in. :bandance:

Um, no. I'm not saying the Sox are going to win the world series, but teams like the Padres, Diamondbacks, Mariners, and Mets to have better odds than us is down right insane.

WhiteSoxFan84
01-30-2005, 03:24 PM
I'll put $50 down on 60/1 odds. That's like a gift.....

I hate to say this, but save ur $50. Yankees are TOO loaded this year.

MUsoxfan
01-30-2005, 03:24 PM
I hate to say this, but save ur $50. Yankees are TOO loaded this year..

I heard that last year....and the year before

FightingBillini
01-30-2005, 03:33 PM
the dependance on a guy at second who has never played in the majors

Of course the sneering media asses will say that. ITs a load of crap, but they will say it. If the Cubs signed Iguchi, it would have been a front and back page story on all the Chicago papers. It would have been the lead news story in papers all across the country. ESPN would have lead off with that story, and then had a segment with the annoying weasle Tim Kurkjian about all the Japanese players ever to play in the MLB. Then they would talk to a baseball "insider" Peter Gammons who will talk about the "ramifications" of the signing, how Iguchi is the next Ichiro, only better, and how this makes the Cubs the favorites to win it all. What a joke.

We will show them.

Fenway
01-30-2005, 03:47 PM
http://www.sportsbooks.com/

from sportsbooks.com

Chicago White Sox 9-2 to win 2005 AL Central



Cleveland Indians 12-5
Detroit Tigers 7-1
Kansas City Royals 25-1
Minnesota Twins 5-7

AL pennant
Chicago White Sox 30-1

World Series

Chicago White Sox 60-1

Brian26
01-30-2005, 04:24 PM
I'm blown away with Arizona's 40-1 odds. After losing the Unit? Come on.

hose
01-30-2005, 04:28 PM
I guess it partially reflects the fact that there are not that many Sox fans. (The Cubs always have short odds because their fans always think that this is the year. Good luck with that Todd Hollandsworth, Corey Patterson, Jerry Hairston Jr. outfield.)


The baseball odds at Las Vegas has nothing to do with the teams popularity.

You are confusing the line at Vegas with para-mutual odds at a horse track, two completely different things.

markopat
01-30-2005, 04:31 PM
How can the SCRUBS be 8:1????????????????????????????????

What the? Is anyone watching this offseason?

I am in Vegas in 3 weeks and I WILL put $100 on the Sox at that!

Holy crap!

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

OurBitchinMinny
01-30-2005, 04:35 PM
.

I heard that last year....and the year before

well they may not win it, but I really dont think the sox are gonna. I just hope they can win the division.

TDog
01-30-2005, 04:44 PM
How can the SCRUBS be 8:1...

It only takes odds like 8-1 to attract heavy betting on the Cubs, if only for sentimental reasons.

These aren't power ratings. Odds are designed to lure people to throw their money away. White Sox fans are more realistic, so it requires longer odds to get them to bet.

If betting on the the White Sox to win the World Series is foolish at even money, it isn't that much smarter at 60-1. Their chances of winning haven't changed with the odds, only the conditions of your bet. The difference is most people putting down the bet at 60-1 understand they have probably lost it.

Chicago83
01-30-2005, 05:02 PM
These odds seem ridiculous, I can't believe the tigers have better odds than us. That really hurts, it appears the oddsmakers have no faith in our white sox. Or else these guys are smoking crack, I don't see why the Rockies have the worst odds, a 300-1 bet on the rockies actually seems like a good bet. There is no way the Rockies are worse than KC, TB, or PIT.

Is this site a legit place to bet? Last time I placed a few bets and won some money at SportsInterAction.com and when I tried to get the money out my account was no where to be found and customer service would not help me. Has anyone placed bets at sportsbook and got their money?

SOXSINCE'70
01-30-2005, 05:13 PM
I hate to say this, but save ur $50. Yankees are TOO loaded this year.

There are no guarantees in sports or life.
Pavano,the Unit and Jaret Wright could be lights out,
or they could have losing records and ERA's between
5.00 and 9.00.We'll see what happens.
And hey,what happens if Sheffield,Paywad,Jeter,
Bernie Williams or or Posada go down for an
extended period of time??:o:

Just asking.:wink: :wink:

MUsoxfan
01-30-2005, 05:26 PM
And when I go to Vegas, I'll place that bet thinking that $50 isn't that much of a longshot (at least in my mind) to become $3000

veeter
01-30-2005, 05:41 PM
I just want to say, IMO, that of a group that includes: fans, writers, odds-makers and any so-called expert, maybe 10% know what they're talking about. There are such biases that a fan of a team such as the White Sox has no chance of not getting mad all off-season. The only way to eliminate it is to win it all. That year is drawing close, I can feel it. So until then, try to ignore these people that know nothing.

shingo3
01-30-2005, 06:10 PM
I hate to say this, but save ur $50. Yankees are TOO loaded this year.

Even thought I hate to say I have to agree with you on that one.:(:

soxwon
01-30-2005, 06:18 PM
I'll put $50 down on 60/1 odds. That's like a gift.....


im with you on this, they are going to lose a lot of $ after we win it all LOL

CubKilla
01-30-2005, 07:43 PM
IIRC, Vegas baseball odds are based on number of bets on a given team by those gamblers placing the bets. The odds are merely a reflection of who's betting on who to win. The "odds" system has nothing to do with offseason moves or proposed strength of rotation, BP, offense, etc.

hose
01-30-2005, 09:35 PM
IIRC, Vegas baseball odds are based on number of bets on a given team by those gamblers placing the bets. The odds are merely a reflection of who's betting on who to win. The "odds" system has nothing to do with offseason moves or proposed strength of rotation, BP, offense, etc.


THIS specific line is already set for the WS and your bet would be locked in at the stated odds if you bet today. It has nothing to do with how fans are placing their money.

munchman33
01-30-2005, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the tip. I just laid $100 down. Probably wasted, but a chance for $6000 is worth it. This team is just too good for those odds.

popilius
01-30-2005, 11:34 PM
Phillies? :?:

pearso66
01-30-2005, 11:56 PM
THIS specific line is already set for the WS and your bet would be locked in at the stated odds if you bet today. It has nothing to do with how fans are placing their money.

While this line wont change if you were to put money on it, but it might change if you dont. Odds are determined by who's betting on what. If no one bets on the Rockies, even at a 300-1 odds, they will change it to get people ot bet on them. I wouldnt be suprised to see the Sox odds drop to 100-1, because people wont bet on 60-1. Unless of course I am mistaken and odds making is diffent for the WS than it is in every other sporting event that they make odds for

Ol' No. 2
01-31-2005, 12:45 AM
While this line wont change if you were to put money on it, but it might change if you dont. Odds are determined by who's betting on what. If no one bets on the Rockies, even at a 300-1 odds, they will change it to get people ot bet on them. I wouldnt be suprised to see the Sox odds drop to 100-1, because people wont bet on 60-1. Unless of course I am mistaken and odds making is diffent for the WS than it is in every other sporting event that they make odds forOddsmakers set the odds not based on the true odds of winning, but in order to get an even amount of betting on both sides. That way they can't lose, and they take their cut out of the middle. You will often see if a lot of money comes down on one side the odds will shift to try to attract money on the other side.

Dadawg_77
01-31-2005, 12:46 AM
If anyone is at the MGM Grand check out thier sportsbook. Last year I laid $100 on the Sox to have more win then the Cubs with +10.5 games for the Sox with a -110 line.

pearso66
01-31-2005, 12:49 AM
Oddsmakers set the odds not based on the true odds of winning, but in order to get an even amount of betting on both sides. That way they can't lose, and they take their cut out of the middle. You will often see if a lot of money comes down on one side the odds will shift to try to attract money on the other side.

which is exactly what I said, but in different words, and probably not as clear. or at least what I meant to say :)

gosox3072
01-31-2005, 03:43 AM
id take those more than 2-1 odds on the yankees....there is no way anyone will beat thier 220 million payroll

hose
01-31-2005, 07:16 AM
While this line wont change if you were to put money on it, but it might change if you dont. Odds are determined by who's betting on what. If no one bets on the Rockies, even at a 300-1 odds, they will change it to get people ot bet on them. I wouldnt be suprised to see the Sox odds drop to 100-1, because people wont bet on 60-1. Unless of course I am mistaken and odds making is diffent for the WS than it is in every other sporting event that they make odds for


They are a lot of factors in the odds changing such as injuries and trades, but yesterdays line had nothing to do with fan favorites. If 3/4 of the Yankees were injured at a Yankee convention this off season they would have had the same line yesterday as the Tampa Bay or Pittsburgh regardless of how many fans they have.

All I'm talking about is how the opening line is established.