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34 Inch Stick
01-31-2005, 04:54 PM
Harry is a load who's greatest contribution to the show is knowing player numbers and being the nerd who can be teased.

Clement's beard
01-31-2005, 04:58 PM
Isnt it indeed funny how FICKLE the Chicago and National Media is?
theyve turned on Sammy because they didnt make the world series.
I hate the Chicago media

Whaaaaaaat? They turned on him because he is out of town and now they don't have to deal with him anymore. It's easy to grow a set when you don't have to go toe to toe with that person anymore. The media never loved Sosa, they used him to sell tickets and newspapers. The fact the Cubs did not win the series last year has nothing to do with this.


Sosa left the team and showed himself to be a fraud in the process. Case closed.

voodoochile
01-31-2005, 05:03 PM
Whaaaaaaat? They turned on him because he is out of town and now they don't have to deal with him anymore. It's easy to grow a set when you don't have to go toe to toe with that person anymore. The media never loved Sosa, they used him to sell tickets and newspapers. The fact the Cubs did not win the series last year has nothing to do with this.


Sosa left the team and showed himself to be a fraud in the process. Case closed.

Where you been? ShamME*'s been a fraud for way longer than that. Where was the crying and moaning when that bat exploded and the cork came flying out? He's been a cheater, a liar, a wife beater, a steroid abuser and a horrible teammate forever.

Not my fault the flubbie fan faithful and the media who owns the team refused to see the truth that was sitting right in front of their collective noses. :rolleyes:

The fact that the media on all levels are suddenly coming down on him just makes it all that much easier to be a Sox fan these days. We hate to say we told you so... but... oh what the heck...

WE TOLD YOU SO! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

WinningUgly!
01-31-2005, 05:38 PM
Considered by some, as one of the worst trades in history:rolleyes:, here's a look at what happened after the George Bell for Sammy Sosa/Ken Patterson deal.:tongue:

Sosa with Cubs (982-1058 .481)
1992: 78-84, Finished 4th in NL Eastern Division
1993: 84-78, Finished 4th in NL Eastern Division
1994: 49-64, Finished 5th in NL Central Division
1995: 73-71, Finished 3rd in NL Central Division
1996: 76-86, Finished 4th in NL Central Division
1997: 68-94, Finished 5th in NL Central Division
1998: 90-73, Finished 2nd in NL Central Division
1999: 67-95, Finished 6th in NL Central Division
2000: 65-97, Finished 6th in NL Central Division
2001: 88-74, Finished 3rd in NL Central Division
2002: 67-95, Finished 5th in NL Central Division
2003: 88-74, Finished 1st in NL Central Division
2004: 89-73, Finished 3rd in NL Central Division

Sox after Sosa (1063-974 .522)
1992: 86-76, Finished 3rd in AL Western Division
1993: 94-68, Finished 1st in AL Western Division
1994: 67-46, Finished 1st in AL Central Division
1995: 68-76, Finished 3rd in AL Central Division
1996: 85-77, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
1997: 80-81, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
1998: 80-82, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
1999: 75-86, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
2000: 95-67, Finished 1st in AL Central Division
2001: 83-79, Finished 3rd in AL Central Division
2002: 81-81, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
2003: 86-76, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
2004: 83-79, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division

darklord23
01-31-2005, 06:16 PM
Considered by some, as one of the worst trades in history:rolleyes:, here's a look at what happened after the George Bell for Sammy Sosa/Ken Patterson deal.:tongue:

Sosa with Cubs (982-1058 .481)
1992: 78-84, Finished 4th in NL Eastern Division
1993: 84-78, Finished 4th in NL Eastern Division
1994: 49-64, Finished 5th in NL Central Division
1995: 73-71, Finished 3rd in NL Central Division
1996: 76-86, Finished 4th in NL Central Division
1997: 68-94, Finished 5th in NL Central Division
1998: 90-73, Finished 2nd in NL Central Division
1999: 67-95, Finished 6th in NL Central Division
2000: 65-97, Finished 6th in NL Central Division
2001: 88-74, Finished 3rd in NL Central Division
2002: 67-95, Finished 5th in NL Central Division
2003: 88-74, Finished 1st in NL Central Division
2004: 89-73, Finished 3rd in NL Central Division

Sox after Sosa (1063-974 .522)
1992: 86-76, Finished 3rd in AL Western Division
1993: 94-68, Finished 1st in AL Western Division
1994: 67-46, Finished 1st in AL Central Division
1995: 68-76, Finished 3rd in AL Central Division
1996: 85-77, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
1997: 80-81, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
1998: 80-82, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
1999: 75-86, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
2000: 95-67, Finished 1st in AL Central Division
2001: 83-79, Finished 3rd in AL Central Division
2002: 81-81, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
2003: 86-76, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division
2004: 83-79, Finished 2nd in AL Central Division


i have to say what a deal that was

spawn
01-31-2005, 09:57 PM
Harry is a load who's greatest contribution to the show is knowing player numbers and being the nerd who can be teased.
My sentiments exactly. Harry never met a butt he didn't kiss...

CubsfansareDRUNK
01-31-2005, 10:30 PM
cub "fan" 1: Yea, now that they traded sosa they're definitly gunna sign magglio.
cub "fan" 2: its gunna happen
:angry:

HebrewHammer
01-31-2005, 10:33 PM
Looking more and more like Burnitz for the ScRubs, can't wait to see his pudgy ass flopping all over right field and then posting lines like 0-4 with three K's and a double play.

:supernana: :dtroll:

santo=dorf
01-31-2005, 11:17 PM
The MLBPA today gave its approval to the Sammy Sosa deal, allowing him to alter his contract.
A clause was voided in the contract that would guarantee Sosa's salary for 2006 and add an option for 2007 if he was traded. The Orioles will owe Sosa $5 million for this year and a $4.5 million buyout if his $18 million option for 2006 isn't exercised. The Cubs will pay $12 million of Sosa's $17 million salary this year and also owe him $3.5 million in severance pay. Jan. 31 - 9:28 pm et
Source: The Associated Press (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-sosatrade&prov=ap&type=lgns) Laugh out ****ing loud!

The Cubs are essentially paying Hairston Jr. $15.5 million.

:rolling: :rolling:

http://www.crackuppictures.com/images/morans.jpg

Ol' No. 2
01-31-2005, 11:24 PM
Laugh out ****ing loud!

The Cubs are essentially paying Hairston Jr. $15.5 million.

:rolling: :rolling:

No. Hairston has a contract for $1.8M. So they're paying $17.3M for Hairston.:rolling::rolling::rolling:

voodoochile
02-01-2005, 09:24 AM
No. Hairston has a contract for $1.8M. So they're paying $17.3M for Hairston.:rolling::rolling::rolling:

So this doesn't free up ANY money?!??!??!!!??

Okay, it frees up the buyout clause money from next year, but what are tehy going to do with $4.5M?

This is laughable.... Can you say dump job? I knew you could...

Jabroni
02-01-2005, 09:39 AM
So this doesn't free up ANY money?!??!??!!!??

Okay, it frees up the buyout clause money from next year, but what are tehy going to do with $4.5M?

This is laughable.... Can you say dump job? I knew you could...Yep, and if the Cubs sign Jeromy Burnitz for a 1-year, $5 million deal it will look like this...

Flubs lose:
Sham-Me & $15.5 million of his contract

Flubs get:
Jeromy Burnitz ($5 million contract)
Jerry Hairston ($1.8 million contract)
2 minor leaguers (Mike Fontenot and Dave Crouthers)

They are essentually spending $22.3 million to get rid of Sosa and get Hairston, Burnitz, and 2 minor leaguers.

Sounds like a steal to me! :tongue:

Ol' No. 2
02-01-2005, 10:49 AM
So this doesn't free up ANY money?!??!??!!!??

Okay, it frees up the buyout clause money from next year, but what are tehy going to do with $4.5M?

This is laughable.... Can you say dump job? I knew you could...Hendry was in an impossible position. There's absolutely no way he could bring Scammy back into that clubhouse and everybody knew it. There was only one team at all interested in Sosa, and they pretty much knew they were in the driver's seat. Hendry did pretty well considering the lousy negotiating position he was in. At least he avoided taking back an albatross of a contract.

Flight #24
02-01-2005, 10:54 AM
Hendry was in an impossible position. There's absolutely no way he could bring Scammy back into that clubhouse and everybody knew it. There was only one team at all interested in Sosa, and they pretty much knew they were in the driver's seat. Hendry did pretty well considering the lousy negotiating position he was in. At least he avoided taking back an albatross of a contract.

Hendry put himself in that position via the Cubs & Trib management sniping at Sammy in the paper all offseason. Had they taken the approach that they did after the corked bat in 2003, the relationship would have been saveable.

Cubs decided they wanted Sammy out of there and did whatever they could to make that as palatable as possible to the public. It then bit them in the rear by destroying any value they could have gotten for him, limiting other potential moves they could make.

That said, he's proven in the past that he can pull some magic out on occasion, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him make some kind of move in-season to add a thumper. They'll need it, unless they can get improvement off of the career years from Barrett, Lee, Ramirez, Patterson, Rusch AND get Nomar, Prior, Wood to stay healthy AND have Maddux not slide. Oh yeah, AND find a closer. That's all.

voodoochile
02-01-2005, 12:56 PM
Hendry put himself in that position via the Cubs & Trib management sniping at Sammy in the paper all offseason. Had they taken the approach that they did after the corked bat in 2003, the relationship would have been saveable.

Cubs decided they wanted Sammy out of there and did whatever they could to make that as palatable as possible to the public. It then bit them in the rear by destroying any value they could have gotten for him, limiting other potential moves they could make.

That said, he's proven in the past that he can pull some magic out on occasion, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him make some kind of move in-season to add a thumper. They'll need it, unless they can get improvement off of the career years from Barrett, Lee, Ramirez, Patterson, Rusch AND get Nomar, Prior, Wood to stay healthy AND have Maddux not slide. Oh yeah, AND find a closer. That's all.

You nailed it. Owners do this all the time. It's the dumbest marketing ploy in baseball. Protect the fan interest but destroy the players value which in the long run costs you trade value and thus cost the team wins and thus costs the team fan interest... well maybe not for the flubbies...:rolleyes:

SOXFAN82
02-02-2005, 12:48 PM
TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO HELP THE TEAM AND THE TOWN.... http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Baseball/MLB/2004/07/12/m071230A.jpg
MANNY- "SAMMY YOU TELLING ME YOU DON'T TAKE ANY SUPPLEMENTS"
SAMMY- "NOPE"
MANNY-"HOLD ON IAM GOING TO GET A DOCTOR TO GET A BLOOD SAMPLE"

http://www.thejerseyspot.com/pics/sammy-sosa-action.jpg
SAMMY- "I'M OUT OF HERE"

OG4LIFE
02-02-2005, 12:53 PM
:?:


i'm confused...

MUsoxfan
02-02-2005, 12:55 PM
:?:


i'm confused...

I'll second that confusion:?::?:

SOXFAN82
02-02-2005, 12:57 PM
i just wanted to know what you think about sammy impact with the o's and the town of Baltimore. I put the sammy images and captions in to wasted some space.

I aplogiiiiiiiii..

Baby Fisk
02-02-2005, 12:58 PM
His what hurts? :?:

kittle42
02-02-2005, 01:42 PM
I put the sammy images and captions in to wasted some space.

I aplogiiiiiiiii..

:?:

samram
02-02-2005, 01:47 PM
Sammy makes the O's a strong contender for third in the AL East.

JoseCanseco6969
02-02-2005, 01:48 PM
i just wanted to know what you think about sammy impact with the o's and the town of Baltimore. I put the sammy images and captions in to wasted some space.

I aplogiiiiiiiii..

I dont understand your post at all, and dont we already have a Sammy to the O's mega thread???

WinningUgly!
02-02-2005, 02:13 PM
I put the sammy images and captions in to wasted some space.

Mission accomplished.

ja1022
02-02-2005, 02:13 PM
I aplogiiiiiiiii..

I think the poster is attempting to communicate in Sosa.

I apologiiii for grabbin da rung bat, cuz I a gladiator dat not need da cork.
If you no belee me you are my enimic.

Tekijawa
02-02-2005, 04:08 PM
Chicago would get Jerry Hairston Jr., second baseman Mike Fontenot and right-handed pitcher Dave Crouthers for Sosa...

Anyone know anything about the prospects?

Ol' No. 2
02-02-2005, 04:19 PM
Chicago would get Jerry Hairston Jr., second baseman Mike Fontenot and right-handed pitcher Dave Crouthers for Sosa...

Anyone know anything about the prospects?From the MLB story:
Fontenot, 24, hit .279 with eight home runs and 49 RBIs for Triple-A Ottawa last season. The 5-foot-8 sparkplug is close to being Major League ready, but committed 22 errors last season. He was a No. 1 draft pick in 2001 out of Louisiana State and advanced quickly through the system, taking just two years to reach Triple-A. Unfortunately for Fontenot, Orioles current second baseman Brian Roberts is just three years older and three years from free agency, making Fontenot expendable.

Crouthers, 25, was 9-9 with a 5.03 ERA last season with Class AA Bowie, but the third-round pick in 2001 had been slow developing. He left the Arizona Fall League after one poor outing because of personal reasons and the Orioles decided to convert him to a reliever.

Although Fontenot and Crouthers are talented, the Orioles have more coveted prospects they wanted to retain such as Nick Markakis, Val Majewski, Adam Loewen and the fast-rising Hayden Penn.

mantis1212
02-02-2005, 04:31 PM
If so, the most entertaining twist in this soap opera could be coming up. It would be absolutely hysterical if Sammy fails the 'roid test and the O's nix the deal.

If I were the O's, I would definitely test. There's probably some rule against it at this point, but after all, who wants a guy whose gonna get suspended for at least 10 games, possbily more than once?

StillMissOzzie
02-02-2005, 04:49 PM
If so, the most entertaining twist in this soap opera could be coming up. It would be absolutely hysterical if Sammy fails the 'roid test and the O's nix the deal.

If I were the O's, I would definitely test. There's probably some rule against it at this point, but after all, who wants a guy whose gonna get suspended for at least 10 games, possbily more than once?

That would be too funny. I have always wondered about the physical exams that are typically done on big FA signings, and whether they include blood or wee-wee tests for ANY drugs: 'roids, cocaine, weed, etc. Makes me wonder why the Yankmees have (apparently) dropped their efforts to void the rest of Giambi's contract. Did they
1) know he was on the juice and look the other way?
2) drop the ball when they had their opportunity to test for it?

Now that Sosa's had a full year to flush his body, he probably won't get caught now, but OTOH, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer...

SMO
:gulp:

santo=dorf
02-02-2005, 06:34 PM
Fake pages are being posted that the Cubs are getting Jorge Julio. The Lemmings are eating it up like candy! :rolling:

Fake ESPN page (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=1982550)
Real ESPN Page (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1981771) (go throught the main website and click it)

Fake Yahoo page (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=cubsoriolessosa&prov=st&type=lgns)
Real Yahoo Page (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpa2lpNnFzBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0 bQ--?slug=ap-cubs-orioles-sosatrade&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Kudos to the web maker though! :gulp:

santo=dorf
02-02-2005, 06:38 PM
.....and Jimmy Hendry confirms that Julio is not part of the deal. The billy goat strikes again!!! :redneck

Ol' No. 2
02-02-2005, 06:42 PM
Fake pages are being posted that the Cubs are getting Jorge Julio. The Lemmings are eating it up like candy! :rolling:

Fake ESPN page (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=1982550)
Real ESPN Page (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1981771) (go throught the main website and click it)

Fake Yahoo page (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=cubsoriolessosa&prov=st&type=lgns)
Real Yahoo Page (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpa2lpNnFzBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0 bQ--?slug=ap-cubs-orioles-sosatrade&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Kudos to the web maker though! :gulp:How does someone put fake pages on the espn.com and yahoo.com website?

1917
02-02-2005, 07:14 PM
cub "fan" 1: Yea, now that they traded sosa they're definitly gunna sign magglio.
cub "fan" 2: its gunna happen
:angry:

Don't be shocked...I know they signed Burnitz, but this Hendry guy has an unlimited payroll to use and is famous for pulling Rabbits out of his hat....there is a reason he isn't a Tiger already...I don't want it to happen...I guess in a way I should because if Maggs comes back 100% I don't want to face him 19 times a year...we have enough trouble with the Tigers...but I can't have him on the Scrubs....GO METS, MAKE THAT TRADE!! Then we only have to worry about him in the World Series

Jabroni
02-02-2005, 07:15 PM
The Sosa press conference is hilarious. Sham-me tries to talk about the team and says "I..." and then he quickly says, "I'm sorry, I meant we..." He can't help it. He will always be known as Sham-ME.

Jjav829
02-02-2005, 09:18 PM
Tuesday, Feb. 1
Rahula Strohl at 4:46 p.m.
Numbers game II: Just got an FYI from Mark Liptak of White Sox Interactive that Sammy Sosa wore No. 11 in 1992, when he played 67 games in his first season with the Cubs. Maybe they should retire that one and give No. 21 to Prior?

Lip on the chicagosports.com blog. (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-blogcurrent,1,5529670.htmlstory?coll=cs-home-promo)

santo=dorf
02-03-2005, 12:02 PM
According to the Cubune (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050202cubsside,1,1136235.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines) the Cubs are sending $16.15 million to Baltimore! The Cost of Hairston, Burnitz and two C level prospects , $22.45 million. :roflmao:

Does anyone else see a resemblance between Jim Hendry and The Emperor? :?:

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/2005/02/02/jcJf3tyG.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8289/emperor.jpg

Ol' No. 2
02-03-2005, 12:10 PM
According to the Cubune (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050202cubsside,1,1136235.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines) the Cubs are sending $16.15 million to Baltimore! The Cost of Hairston, Burnitz and two C level prospects , $22.45 million. :roflmao:

Does anyone else see a resemblance between Jim Hendry and The Emperor? :?:

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/2005/02/02/jcJf3tyG.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8289/emperor.jpgIf you'd spent all winter trying to find a team willing to let you pay them $16M to take your "star" player off your hands, you'd look like you've put on a few miles, too.:redneck

DrCrawdad
02-03-2005, 07:41 PM
According to the Cubune (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050202cubsside,1,1136235.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines) the Cubs are sending $16.15 million to Baltimore! The Cost of Hairston, Burnitz and two C level prospects , $22.45 million. :roflmao:

Does anyone else see a resemblance between Jim Hendry and The Emperor? :?:

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/2005/02/02/jcJf3tyG.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8289/emperor.jpg

I love the pictures!

:bandance: :supernana: :bandance: