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santo=dorf
01-18-2005, 04:11 PM
But the Astros are countering with $13.5 Million according to ESPNews.

Damn pitching is expensive!

:schueler

"He's washed up I tell ya! Give the money to Navarro!"

Palehose Pete
01-18-2005, 04:15 PM
That's a Dr. Evil moment for Clemens...

jshanahanjr
01-18-2005, 04:16 PM
Thanks Roger, it's been a blast!

Ol' No. 2
01-18-2005, 04:17 PM
But the Astros are countering with $13.5 Million according to ESPNews.

Damn pitching is expensive!

Houston's gonna win this one. But they can't make him play. He can just retire, so he's in the driver's seat.

HoustonAstros967
01-18-2005, 04:19 PM
The astros have money to spend and they really need him to anchor their staff for 2005. With him they will have a staff that includes clemens, oswalt, pettitte, and backe. Thats a very solid rotation. $22 million is a little steep but i think he'll take less. The Astros would have to be stupid not to go higher than 13 million if he declines but who knows.

soxfan26
01-18-2005, 04:21 PM
That's a Dr. Evil moment for Clemens...

The 'Stros had to have seen this coming.

ma-gaga
01-18-2005, 04:52 PM
The 'Stros had to have seen this coming.

That is absolutely hilarious. There's NO WAY he wins a $22MM arbitration case. The Astros' can basically pick and choose any number above $12MM and they will win. Can anyone think of a similar situation??!?

Maddox "screwed" the Braves for $15MM. But that's was at least a little reasonable. I mean, there were maybe 20+ players making that much money at the time. There's only ONE player making more than $22MM today, and he's 28 years old. Hell, Beltran "only" signed for $17MM. That's what Clemens should have tried to hit.

:gulp:

Ol' No. 2
01-18-2005, 04:55 PM
That is absolutely hilarious. There's NO WAY he wins a $22MM arbitration case. The Astros' can basically pick and choose any number above $12MM and they will win. Can anyone think of a similar situation??!?

Maddox "screwed" the Braves for $15MM. But that's was at least a little reasonable. I mean, there were maybe 20+ players making that much money at the time. There's only ONE player making more than $22MM today, and he's 28 years old. Hell, Beltran "only" signed for $17MM. That's what Clemens should have tried to hit.

:gulp:They offered $13.5M. But it's not that simple. To me it seems like Clemens was saying "Take the arbitration and shove it". If they don't come to an agreement with an acceptable figure, Clemens just retires.

soxfan26
01-18-2005, 05:09 PM
They offered $13.5M. But it's not that simple. To me it seems like Clemens was saying "Take the arbitration and shove it". If they don't come to an agreement with an acceptable figure, Clemens just retires.

That was my take on it as well. The Astros have done nothing to improve so what is his incentive to work for a 'discount'?

soxwon
01-18-2005, 05:15 PM
pay him he's worth it!!!

Ol' No. 2
01-18-2005, 05:19 PM
pay him he's worth it!!!Mail your contribution (check or money order) to:

Houston Astros
PO Box 288
Houston, TX, 77001-0288

soxwon
01-18-2005, 05:24 PM
im not a astros fan unless they play the cubs.

if he did for uswhat he did for houston last year, id want him back at even$25 mill.
i believe a player should get whatever he can.

Ol' No. 2
01-18-2005, 05:27 PM
im not a astros fan unless they play the cubs.

if he did for uswhat he did for houston last year, id want him back at even$25 mill.
i believe a player should get whatever he can.He won 18 games. Maybe I'm cheap, but $1.22M per win seems a tad high.

soxwon
01-18-2005, 05:40 PM
18-4 2.98 thats purely awesome, especially at his age.

Foulke You
01-18-2005, 06:16 PM
I hope Clemens signs. Anything that makes the Cubs division tougher is a good thing in my mind.:cool:

StillMissOzzie
01-18-2005, 06:23 PM
Clemens is asking for $22M in arbitration? I don't think he has a chance of winning, but can't the 'Stros & Roger now continue to negotiate between now and Judgement Day? As much as I admire all that Clemens has done, I think that would be pretty lame of him to retire if he "loses" on the arbitration.

SMO
:gulp:

HoustonAstros967
01-18-2005, 07:54 PM
im not a astros fan unless they play the cubs.

if he did for uswhat he did for houston last year, id want him back at even$25 mill.
i believe a player should get whatever he can.

Players should get what they deserve. Heck if they feel hes the key ingredient to a playoff run then heck pay him the money. They have it why not.

JUribe1989
01-18-2005, 07:58 PM
The astros have money to spend and they really need him to anchor their staff for 2005. With him they will have a staff that includes clemens, oswalt, pettitte, and backe. Thats a very solid rotation. $22 million is a little steep but i think he'll take less. The Astros would have to be stupid not to go higher than 13 million if he declines but who knows.

How much longer could he possibly pitch? They should watch out, if he has a bad year this year he could be done for and now they have just wasted all that money.

RichFitztightly
01-18-2005, 10:45 PM
He won 18 games. Maybe I'm cheap, but $1.22M per win seems a tad high.

I think you have to also take into account that at 5+ million dollars last year, he was grossly underpaid. $27 million for 2 years breaks down to $13.5 a year, which is steep but not unheard of.

ewokpelts
01-18-2005, 11:03 PM
I think you have to also take into account that at 5+ million dollars last year, he was grossly underpaid. $27 million for 2 years breaks down to $13.5 a year, which is steep but not unheard of.
clemens gave houston a discount in 2004....and then he brought them to the playoffs...if he wont have beltran for a full season, he might as well take the money...sides, he knows that the astros drew a ton of people because he was there....they have the money
Gene

soxfan26
01-21-2005, 08:35 AM
Reported by KRIV-TV in Houston. Clemens will be the highest paid pitcher in history. (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb_news.jsp?ymd=20050120&content_id=933023&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp) One year, $17.5 million.

Nick@Nite
01-21-2005, 11:37 AM
Jim Rome just announced that the Astros & Clemens came to an agreement on a 1 year, 18M contract.

FedEx227
01-21-2005, 11:50 AM
Jim Rome just announced that the Astros & Clemens came to an agreement on a 1 year, 18M contract.

"Thats.............::insanely long pause:: fantastic....just.....................brilliant... ....what a great guy....great player.........for any...........team....just fantastic..."

StillMissOzzie
01-21-2005, 11:52 AM
IMHO, it was probably very important to Clemens that he be paid more than Pedro. And that's also why I think arbitration sucks. You get one crazy team out there throwing crazy money around, and it becomes the benchmark by which future arbitration decisions are affected by.

SMO
:gulp:

Nick@Nite
01-21-2005, 12:03 PM
IMHO, it was probably very important to Clemens that he be paid more than Pedro. And that's also why I think arbitration sucks. You get one crazy team out there throwing crazy money around, and it becomes the benchmark by which future arbitration decisions are affected by.

SMO
:gulp:

Yeah... talk about someone being in the drivers seat in a particular situation. Clemens was either going to get PAID, or he was going to take his 15 Cy Young awards (& WS ring) and retire (again).

chaz171
01-21-2005, 01:38 PM
We are going to hook up a laser to the moon and use it to destroy the world unless we get a hefty sum of money......



$22 million dollars