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DumpJerry
12-20-2004, 11:17 AM
Cops investigate Wrigleyville rape

Tribune staff reports
Published December 20, 2004, 9:21 AM CST
This is the actual headline in the Cubune's website today. The poor headline writer (and reporter) will be fired immediately for getting their geography wrong. It is "Lakeview." Only good, happy things happen in "Wrigleyville."

PaulDrake
12-20-2004, 11:49 AM
Maybe not. In this short article great pains were made to make the point that this is not an ordinary occurence in paradise.

maurice
12-20-2004, 01:03 PM
Police do not believe the attack was related to any other recent incidents, WGN reported. . . . Residents described the neighborhood as a quiet area not known for problems.LMAO! One sentence vaguely notes that police don't believe that this rape is related to the numerous other rapes that occurred in Wrigleyville in 2004 (or perhaps they're referencing last week's double stabbing in Wrigleyville). The next notes the erroneous belief held by some "residents" that Wrigleyville is a particularly safe area.

Props to the Trib for identifying the area as "Wrigleyville," but you still get a snail for the BS spin control.
:giantsnail

This one is really bad, because it sends the exact opposite of the message police apparently asked the media to convey (http://www.nbc5.com/news/4009744/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65192):
Women Warned After Rape In Wrigleyville Neighborhood

Police are warning women in the Wrigleyville neighborhood to be alert after a brutal weekend sexual assault.

LongLiveFisk
12-20-2004, 04:01 PM
Pardon my ignorance here, but where does Lakeview end and Wrigleyville begin? Or are they essentially the same area?

Mickster
12-20-2004, 04:38 PM
Pardon my ignorance here, but where does Lakeview end and Wrigleyville begin? Or are they essentially the same area?
Identical.

Ol' No. 2
12-20-2004, 04:46 PM
Pardon my ignorance here, but where does Lakeview end and Wrigleyville begin? Or are they essentially the same area?When something bad happens, it's Lakeview. When something good happens, it's Wrigleyville.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, here's the real story. Chicago has "defined" neighborhood sections for administrative purposes. These have definate boundaries. Lakeview is one. There is no defined neighborhood of Wrigleyville. It's just what people call the area around Wrigley. They roughly coincide.

LongLiveFisk
12-20-2004, 05:38 PM
When something bad happens, it's Lakeview. When something good happens, it's Wrigleyville.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, here's the real story. Chicago has "defined" neighborhood sections for administrative purposes. These have definate boundaries. Lakeview is one. There is no defined neighborhood of Wrigleyville. It's just what people call the area around Wrigley. They roughly coincide.
Thanks for the info (and Mickster as well).

I always wondered about that.

jackbrohamer
12-20-2004, 05:38 PM
In WGN's TV coverage, the reporter went out of her way to say that the incident was not a sign of a widespread problem in the area. Coincidentally, the reporter covering the murder on North Dearborn didn't address the issue of whether it was a sign of a widespread problem in the area....

DSpivack
12-20-2004, 10:48 PM
In WGN's TV coverage, the reporter went out of her way to say that the incident was not a sign of a widespread problem in the area. Coincidentally, the reporter covering the murder on North Dearborn didn't address the issue of whether it was a sign of a widespread problem in the area....
And the news reported tonight of a second rape in the area.

DumpJerry
12-21-2004, 12:34 AM
I think I know why the Tribune Company allows the "Wrigleyville" reference. Since baseball is not in season now, there is no real reason to venture to the dangerous city of Chicago. However, once April 1st rolls around, then all is safe and happy in Wrigleyville.

If I owned a television station, I would report the unfortunate crimes and then maybe mention that no crime was reported today in Comiskeyville......or is that petty?

MeanFish
12-21-2004, 12:36 AM
That would be funny. I can picture it now...

Newscaster: Today there was a stabbing down in Blue Island. That's one more stabbing than occurred in, say, Comiskeyville. Which is where the Sox play. It's very peaceful there. It's the perfect place to take your girlfriend on a warm summer day...cuddling in the evening breeze...

*camera dude dumps a pitcher of water on him*

Newscaster: Ah yes, thank you, I needed that...

Jerko
12-21-2004, 08:36 AM
And the news reported tonight of a second rape in the area.
Maybe the authorities, reporters, and even residents of Wrigleyville better start looking for this prick instead of "defending" the honor of the neighborhood. This latest one happened ONE BLOCK away from the srhine, such an upstanding (no pun intended) area. I feel bad for these women, don't get me wrong, but to see more women from that area on the news saying how great it is there kind of unnerves me. Quit fawning for the cameras and saying how great your 'hood is and show a little public outrage and try to help catch this guy.

California Sox
12-21-2004, 10:36 AM
I lived in Uptown before I moved away from Chi :whiner:

My landlord was a paramedic and she said that they had many more violent crime calls in Wrigleyville (er, Lakeview) than in Uptown. Her theory was that my drunken and drug-addicted neighbors (in those days Wilson was a cesspool) would wander down to Addison to rob people who had more money. They were criminals, but it didn't mean they were stupid.

Also, I disagree about the Lakeview/Wrigleyville distinction. I believe Lakeview is the area around Belmont and when you get to Addison it starts to be Wrigleyville. That's the way I always saw it.

maurice
12-21-2004, 11:42 AM
As No.2 noted, Lakeview is the semi-official, traditional name for the larger neighborhood. Subsequently, certain parts of the neighborhood became informally identified with points of interest (e.g., Wrigleyville, Boystown).

As for the most recent spate of attacks, it appears that not every area resident received the Trib's talking points memo (http://www.nbc5.com/news/4012666/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65192):
Residents of the neighborhood said they were unnerved by the assaults. "I work and live in this neighborhood. It is absolutely disturbing to me that this would happen once, let alone twice," one woman said. "I walk home every night, and this will change everything. Absolutely, this will change everything."She immediately was taken to an undisclosed location by blue and red clad agents.

Dadawg_77
12-21-2004, 11:56 AM
I lived in Uptown before I moved away from Chi :whiner:

My landlord was a paramedic and she said that they had many more violent crime calls in Wrigleyville (er, Lakeview) than in Uptown. Her theory was that my drunken and drug-addicted neighbors (in those days Wilson was a cesspool) would wander down to Addison to rob people who had more money. They were criminals, but it didn't mean they were stupid.

Also, I disagree about the Lakeview/Wrigleyville distinction. I believe Lakeview is the area around Belmont and when you get to Addison it starts to be Wrigleyville. That's the way I always saw it.
They are one in the same thing. Lakeview was a cesspool in the early 80's and 70's but the City and Real Estate saw great opportunity in the area. The problem was the Lakeview name had a bunch of negative connotations with the general public. Also main attraction wasn't one as Cubs were drawing about 9,000 a game in 81. So as the neighborhood was being redeveloped, the Cubs had 84 season. In order to connect the neighborhood to something positive, real estate agent began identifying it by the moniker Wrigleyville. And now you have million dollar buildings in area where you could have bought for under 100,000 in 1980. Wrigellyville was the prototype of rebuilding areas around stadiums and other attractions, which happen all thoughout the 90's.

maurice
12-21-2004, 07:10 PM
Two sexual assaults on two consecutive days in the Wrigleyville neighborhood had local women on alert today while police sought to determine if the two attacks were linked. . . . [N]ews of the attacks had many female residents of the trendy North Side neighborhood contemplating their safety and what they could do to better protect themselves. Katie Presser, 23, who has lived in the neighborhood since August, said she and her three roommates promised to escort each other from the nearby Addison Street stop of the CTA Red Line if one of them should arrive there alone after dark. "This is one of those things you don't expect to happen in your neighborhood," Presser said. "Now, I won't walk my dog alone. I used to go to the store on my own. I won't do that anymore."

Laurie Strotman, 27, a nurse, said she and her female roommate, a resident doctor, agreed over breakfast Monday they should be more mindful of their surroundings. "We only live a block from the El stop, so we won't have someone escort us home," she said. "But we are going to try and be together when we are out on the street after dark."

Police have increased patrols in the Wrigleyville area, Camden said, but he encouraged women to be more vigilant and aware of their surroundings and to call 911 if they see anything suspicious.Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-041222wrigleyvilleassaults,1,3968272.story?coll=ch i-news-hed)

Community leaders in the Wrigleyville neighborhood fought back Tuesday after two violent rapes in the neighborhood in the past several days. Activists handed out flyers Monday, warning women who live in the neighborhood to be on heightened alert. . . . Wrigleyville has long been known as a safe neighborhood, with a large population of single women living alone. But on Tuesday, many of those women were feeling less secure. "I'm a single girl living in the Wrigleyville area myself, and I find it to be extremely terrifying," one woman said. "I'm carrying my mace with me at all times."

"We just kind of don't go through the alleys, and stick to more crowded streets," another resident said.

Alderman Tom Tunney said he and others were canvassing the neighborhood to warn residents about what happened. "We are going door-to-door on the basically four to six blocks surrounding this community, and we will get everyone as knowledgeable as they can be about public safety, their own personal safety," Tunney said.Link (http://www.nbc5.com/news/4015400/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65193)

jabrch
12-21-2004, 07:54 PM
Pardon my ignorance here, but where does Lakeview end and Wrigleyville begin? Or are they essentially the same area?

Wrigleyville is the warm and cozy area within 20 blocks of Wrigley Field. Lakeview is where anything bad happens within 20 blocks of Wrigley Field.

Over By There
12-21-2004, 08:02 PM
Identical.
In most people's minds, I think the terms are interchangeable, but "technically" Wrigleyville is a sub-part of Lakeview. Lakeview is actually pretty big by the common definition - roughly Montrose to Diversey, the lake to Ashland or Western. Wrigleyville sits inside that area - basically Irving to Roscoe, Halsted to Southport. Similarly, Roscoe Village also sits within Lakeview proper.

eriqjaffe
12-22-2004, 08:15 AM
Somebody still seems to have a job with the Tribune Corporation:

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