PDA

View Full Version : Jamie Burke should be the full time starter next year


MRKARNO
12-18-2004, 11:30 PM
Why do I say this? Because I'm not so sure that Burke's .300+ hitting ways are necessarily a fluke. I know it's not common for catchers to become good suddenly at 33, but I think he's not that bad. In 2002, he hit .304 with a .353 OBP in the Pacific Coast League. In 2003, he hit .322 with a .369 OBP at AAA Charlotte. In 2004, he didnt do so well at Charlotte, but in 2004 in Chicago in 120 at bats, he hit .333 with a .386 OBP. In addition, his defense was pretty good last year, throwing out 8 of 19 would-be base stealers, though he did commit 3 errors. I dont see what the management sees in Davis, but I see something they dont in Burke: A potentially high average, high pretty good OBP catcher with solid defense. Anybody else with me?

DrCrawdad
12-18-2004, 11:36 PM
Why do I say this? Because I'm not so sure that Burke's .300+ hitting ways are necessarily a fluke. I know it's not common for catchers to become good suddenly at 33, but I think he's not that bad. In 2002, he hit .304 with a .353 OBP in the Pacific Coast League. In 2003, he hit .322 with a .369 OBP at AAA Charlotte. In 2004, he didnt do so well at Charlotte, but in 2004 in Chicago in 120 at bats, he hit .333 with a .386 OBP. In addition, his defense was pretty good last year, throwing out 8 of 19 would-be base stealers, though he did commit 3 errors. I dont see what the management sees in Davis, but I see something they dont in Burke: A potentially high average, high pretty good OBP catcher with solid defense. Anybody else with me?

I'm with ya!

stillz
12-18-2004, 11:38 PM
Burke was a nice surprise last season, and deserves to split time with Davis, but I'd still prefer an upgrade at the position.

Where's Officer Karkovice when you need him?

santo=dorf
12-19-2004, 01:16 AM
Burke was a nice surprise last season, and deserves to split time with Davis, but I'd still prefer an upgrade at the position.

Where's Officer Karkovice when you need him?
He's an underwear model now. :cower:

OurBitchinMinny
12-19-2004, 02:35 AM
He's an underwear model now. :cower:
thanks for that visual

Jabroni
12-19-2004, 02:40 AM
He's an underwear model now. :cower: I thought he was stunt-doubling for Brad Pitt? :?:

Kogs35
12-19-2004, 09:07 AM
plus burke called burly's almost no-no/perfect game last year

soxtalker
12-19-2004, 09:11 AM
How are Burke's language skills (i.e., spanish)?

hose
12-19-2004, 09:13 AM
I would rather see the Sox get a #1 catcher and keep Jamie as the back up.

As a fan I'm pulling for Burke to excel at his opportunity just like I did with LTP. Putting all wishfull thinking aside the Sox have to address the catching position. It's so bad that KW is considering Peirzinski.:o:

Realist
12-19-2004, 09:28 AM
I'd have a lot more confidense in James Burke if he didn't put so much of his trust in Tommy DeSimone. (50 bonus pts. if you get the reference)

MRKARNO
12-19-2004, 09:31 AM
I would rather see the Sox get a #1 catcher and keep Jamie as the back up.
The only catcher I see as a big step up that is a FA this year would be Varitek and he's gonna return to the Bosox almost certainly. Pierzynski is not the answer and I think the Cards will end up signing him anyways.

Kogs35
12-19-2004, 09:47 AM
The only catcher I see as a big step up that is a FA this year would be Varitek and he's gonna return to the Bosox almost certainly. Pierzynski is not the answer and I think the Cards will end up signing him anyways.cards just signed enar diaz to be yadier molina's backup

MRKARNO
12-19-2004, 09:51 AM
cards just signed enar diaz to be jadier molina's backup
Did not know that they were going to go with Yadier, but that's probably a good idea. That still doesnt make Pierzynski a worthy signing for the White Sox.

Yorke97
12-19-2004, 09:54 AM
I enjoyed all of our catchers this past season, but I'd rather see one guy take the reigns on the position. Part of me would really like to see Pierzinski (sp?) in a Sox uni.

soltrain21
12-19-2004, 10:14 AM
I'd have a lot more confidense in James Burke if he didn't put so much of his trust in Tommy DeSimone. (50 bonus pts. if you get the reference)

Goodfellas?

Ol' No. 2
12-19-2004, 10:47 AM
Why do I say this? Because I'm not so sure that Burke's .300+ hitting ways are necessarily a fluke. I know it's not common for catchers to become good suddenly at 33, but I think he's not that bad. In 2002, he hit .304 with a .353 OBP in the Pacific Coast League. In 2003, he hit .322 with a .369 OBP at AAA Charlotte. In 2004, he didnt do so well at Charlotte, but in 2004 in Chicago in 120 at bats, he hit .333 with a .386 OBP. In addition, his defense was pretty good last year, throwing out 8 of 19 would-be base stealers, though he did commit 3 errors. I dont see what the management sees in Davis, but I see something they dont in Burke: A potentially high average, high pretty good OBP catcher with solid defense. Anybody else with me?People are making entirely too much of this "33-year old rookie" stuff. Burke made his ML debut at age 29. Damian Miller made his at age 27, and he turned out OK. Unless you think those two years are somehow magical, I wouldn't count out Burke's chances of being a servicable major leaguer.

Rex Hudler
12-19-2004, 10:57 AM
Why do I say this? Because I'm not so sure that Burke's .300+ hitting ways are necessarily a fluke. I know it's not common for catchers to become good suddenly at 33, but I think he's not that bad. In 2002, he hit .304 with a .353 OBP in the Pacific Coast League. In 2003, he hit .322 with a .369 OBP at AAA Charlotte. In 2004, he didnt do so well at Charlotte, but in 2004 in Chicago in 120 at bats, he hit .333 with a .386 OBP. In addition, his defense was pretty good last year, throwing out 8 of 19 would-be base stealers, though he did commit 3 errors. I dont see what the management sees in Davis, but I see something they dont in Burke: A potentially high average, high pretty good OBP catcher with solid defense. Anybody else with me?
There is only one problem with the numbers you are using.....

Burke has not played a full season since 1997 in AA ball and that was only 116 games. He only played in 88 games in 2002, 94 with Charlotte in 2003 and a total of 94 games between Charlotte and Chicago last year.

Granted there are exceptions to every rule, but there has to be SOME reason that Jamie has not been a full-time player since then. I know catchers develop later than other position players, but I just can't buy into translating his recent stats over a full season. If it happens, great. I just don't think there is a viable argument to do so. The stat the tells me the most about him is the number of games played each year. The fact that in addition to being a part-time player, the highest number of games he has caught in a season is 76 (72 in Charlotte, 4 in Chicago) in 2003. Aside from that year, 51 games played at catcher in AA in 1998 is the next highest to last season.

Realist
12-19-2004, 11:00 AM
Goodfellas?
Ding ding ding!! Anothaaaah... winnnahhhhhh! :smile: