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Jjav829
12-09-2004, 08:04 PM
From rotoworld:

According to the Arizona Republic's Bob McManaman, the Diamondbacks are on the verge of signing Russ Ortiz.
The Diamondbacks likely will overpay, but they can't possibly give Ortiz the $10 million he wants. He should be another pitcher making around $21 million-$24 million over three years.
Great, just when I was starting to get desperate enough to suggest that Ortiz might not be such a horrible fit, it looks like he's going to sign elsewhere. It's starting to look more and more like it's Vazquez or bust for us.

Jabroni
12-09-2004, 08:07 PM
From rotoworld:

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Great, just when I was starting to get desperate enough to suggest that Ortiz might not be such a horrible fit, it looks like he's going to sign elsewhere. It's starting to look more and more like it's Vazquez or bust for us.Javier Vazquez - trade
Matt Clement - will probably get $9+ million a year
Odalis Perez - ???

Jjav829
12-09-2004, 08:10 PM
Javier Vazquez - trade
Matt Clement - will probably get $9+ million a year
Odalis Perez - ???
I think we're out of the Clement sweepstakes. Seems like he'll get too much money, and with KW's comments about adding payroll, it sounds like Konerko for Vazquez makes the most sense. It doesn't seem like the Sox have interest in Perez, and I think he'll end up with the Nationals.

Jabroni
12-09-2004, 08:14 PM
I think we're out of the Clement sweepstakes. Seems like he'll get too much money, and with KW's comments about adding payroll, it sounds like Konerko for Vazquez makes the most sense. It doesn't seem like the Sox have interest in Perez, and I think he'll end up with the Nationals.I agree on Clement. But KW was interested in Odalis Perez in previous years. Wasn't there a Konerko for Perez trade rumor last year or 2 years ago? I do think we will wind up with Vazquez though.

ChiWhiteSox1337
12-09-2004, 08:33 PM
Hmmm, if the Dbacks are about to add Ortiz after adding Glaus already today, do you think there's a chance that the diamondbacks are just going to hold onto RJ for one last shot at the NL West? I don't see why'd they bring in 2 high priced FAs and then trade away one of the best pitchers in the league.

Lip Man 1
12-09-2004, 09:44 PM
Hmmm Ortiz AND Glaus.... man that's a lot of money for a 'supposedly' (nudge, nudge, wink, wink...say no more!) bankrupt team.

How can Arizona spend that kind of money and not the.....oh never mind.

Lip

Wealz
12-09-2004, 10:53 PM
Gammons reports Ortiz will get 4/$34M from D'Backs.

My guess is that the Angels are now the best trading partner for RJ because of their wealth of position player prospects.

FarWestChicago
12-09-2004, 10:55 PM
Hmmm Ortiz AND Glaus.... man that's a lot of money for a 'supposedly' (nudge, nudge, wink, wink...say no more!) bankrupt team.

How can Arizona spend that kind of money and not the.....oh never mind.

Liphttp://www.flyingsock.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/troll.gif

anewman35
12-09-2004, 11:02 PM
Hmmm Ortiz AND Glaus.... man that's a lot of money for a 'supposedly' (nudge, nudge, wink, wink...say no more!) bankrupt team.

How can Arizona spend that kind of money and not the.....oh never mind.

Lip
Just because they're SPENDING money doesn't mean they HAVE money. Not everybody is as smart a buisnessman as JR (and, no, that is NOT supposed to be in teal).

santo=dorf
12-09-2004, 11:46 PM
Hmmm Ortiz AND Glaus.... man that's a lot of money for a 'supposedly' (nudge, nudge, wink, wink...say no more!) bankrupt team.

How can Arizona spend that kind of money and not the.....oh never mind.

Lip
You and Gammons are on to something Lip.
What no one can figure out is where the Diamondbacks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=ari), who have begged MLB to forgive their $80 million debt and owe $55 million in deferrals this season because they never funded the deferred contracts, are getting the cash. Russ Ortiz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5954) is getting done at close to $34 million for four years, as is Royce Clayton (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4800). And the solution White Sox (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cha) GM Ken Williams figured out -- Javier Vazquez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947) to Chicago, Paul Konerko (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5908) and Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) to Arizona, Randy Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4288) to New York -- has apparently fallen apart, because Williams has yet to hear back.

gosox41
12-10-2004, 08:21 AM
From rotoworld:

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Great, just when I was starting to get desperate enough to suggest that Ortiz might not be such a horrible fit, it looks like he's going to sign elsewhere. It's starting to look more and more like it's Vazquez or bust for us.
Ortiz would be a horrible fit for the Sox or just about any other team.

I'm glad he's going elsewhere.



Bob

Jjav829
12-10-2004, 08:26 AM
Ortiz would be a horrible fit for the Sox or just about any other team.

I'm glad he's going elsewhere.



Bob
That's what I've been saying all along, but as more and more starters are signing, and the Sox don't seem to be likely to land another starting pitcher, I've started to change my mind on Ortiz. At least he's better than Jason freaking Grilli.

gosox41
12-10-2004, 08:28 AM
That's what I've been saying all along, but as more and more starters are signing, and the Sox don't seem to be likely to land another starting pitcher, I've started to change my mind on Ortiz. At least he's better than Jason freaking Grilli.
Tru, but not by much. Put Ortiz in the AL with a DH and a hitters ballpark and that ERA will climb. Not as high as Grilli's but high enough to warrant him not being worth any significant investment.


Bob