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Jabroni
12-08-2004, 02:42 PM
"Phillies sign RHP Jon Lieber to three-year contract"
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/phi/news/phi_press_release.jsp?ymd=20041208&content_id=919757&vkey=pr_phi&fext=.jspFree agent pitcher Jon Lieber, who won 14 games for the New York Yankees last season, has signed a three-year contract with the Phillies, General Manager Ed Wade announced today.

The 34-year-old right-hander will receive a three-year, $21 million guaranteed contract: $1 million signing bonus, $5,250,000 for 2005, $7,250,000 for 2006 and $7,500,000 for 2007. The contract includes award bonuses.Oh noes! So much for that one. :whiner: Now we're down to Matt Clement or Russ Ortiz as the only good options. :(:

Tekijawa
12-08-2004, 02:47 PM
We'll be down to less than that before we make our move...

Jabroni
12-08-2004, 02:48 PM
We'll be down to less than that before we make our move...If Lieber just got $21 million guaranteed for 3 years with possible incentives, what does that mean Clement and Ortiz will get? :?: :o: :whiner:

Baby Fisk
12-08-2004, 02:51 PM
My unquenchable Sox optimism just got up and went to the bar downstairs. What a brutal week. :gulp:

cheeses_h_rice
12-08-2004, 02:51 PM
Hate to sound like JR here, but what the heck is up with these big deals for B level starters? I can see maybe $7M for one year with some incentives, but 3/$21M?

JRIG
12-08-2004, 02:59 PM
The Phillies were apparently the favorites for Clement's services. Does that leave the Indians and us as potential suitors?

Jjav829
12-08-2004, 03:04 PM
The Phillies were apparently the favorites for Clement's services. Does that leave the Indians and us as potential suitors?Not so quick. The Angels apparently are going after Clement now. The Blue Jays have interest too. The Brewers have interest, and money to spend, but I can't see Clement going there over the Sox. Then again, you never know...:o:

Soxzilla
12-08-2004, 03:27 PM
Not so quick. The Angels apparently are going after Clement now. The Blue Jays have interest too. The Brewers have interest, and money to spend, but I can't see Clement going there over the Sox. Then again, you never know...:o:
You're probably the same one that said you couldn't imagine RJ staying with the Diamondbacks if the Sox were the only other option!:tongue: I'm not suprised by anything anymore when it comes to FA coming/(not coming) to our organization.

santo=dorf
12-08-2004, 03:31 PM
"Phillies sign RHP Jon Lieber to three-year contract"
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/phi/news/phi_press_release.jsp?ymd=20041208&content_id=919757&vkey=pr_phi&fext=.jspOh noes! So much for that one. :whiner: Now we're down to Matt Clement or Russ Ortiz as the only good options. :(:
ODALIS PEREZ!!!!

MHOUSE
12-08-2004, 04:13 PM
Looks like a very similar deal to what the Yankees gave Jaret Wright: 3 years $21 million. I recall some people wishing the Sox would pursue him when it appeared the Yankees weren't keeping him and especially after they grabbed Wright.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1941926

I think that both are similar pitchers as far as risk vs. reward with their injury histories and how their seasons went last year, but I would have been ok paying $7 million a year for the chance that they could stay healthy and pitch as a solid #3 or #4 guy. It looks like the lack of big-name pitchers on the market (besides Pedro) makes these non-ace guys overpriced. Do something Kenny!

mweflen
12-08-2004, 04:17 PM
this stinks.

wdelaney72
12-09-2004, 07:15 PM
This sucks.

Reality is, if you want a FA starter, you're going to pay.