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SEALgep
11-25-2004, 12:31 PM
So the Yanks get Johnson over us, big deal. If we can somehow be the team that gets Javier Vazquez, with a little money thrown our way, and deal PK to AZ and possibly someone else, I would be happy. This guy has some talent, and would fit nicely in our rotation. Probably even better than Johnson when considering youth, potential, and years signed.

per rotoworld:


Javier Vazquez (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?leaguenum=&sport=MLB&id=5947) - S - NYY (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_news.asp?leaguenum=&sport=MLB&majteam=NYY)

While speculation is that the Yankees would like to pull a Thanksgiving Day deal of their own this season, a Randy Johnson trade isn't likely to be completed this week.
The rumors started heating up yesterday, with sources telling the Boston Herald a deal could be done as soon as today. However, there are still major roadblocks to be overcome. The biggest involves the frightening possibility for Arizona that Javier Vazquez would demand a trade next winter, as would be his right after being dealt while in the middle of a multiyear deal. The Yankees may have to get a third team involved if they want to use Vazquez to acquire Johnson. Since Yankees GM Brian Cashman is scheduled to spend the next five days at Disney World, it's unlikely that anything will get done soon. Nov. 25 - 3:08 am et

MRKARNO
11-25-2004, 12:51 PM
If we could get Vazquez and some money for only Paul Konerko (I think we may be able to, as long as we're taking on the majority of Vazquez' contract), I would be all in favor.

If getting RJ means getting rid of PK, Garland, AND Brian Anderson, then I'm not in favor. The first two, sure, but there is no reason to have to give up Anderson as well.

Lip Man 1
11-25-2004, 01:36 PM
Peter Gammons in his column yesterday said that a straight up Vasquez for Johnson deal doesn't make sense for Arizona.

However he did say a deal involving Tom Gordon and Kenny Lofton along with Vasquez for Johnson is possible. The D-backs would then deal Gordon and Lofton to either the Cubs or Indians for some top young talent.

He also had this to say about the Sox: "The D-Backs have looked at other alternatives, in St. Louis, Anaheim and Los Angeles, to name three. The White Sox were the most aggressive early with Paul Konerko (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5908), Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) and minor-league center fielder Brian Anderson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5152), but it is highly unlikely Johnson would go to the South Side of Chicago."

Lip

SomebodyToldMe
11-25-2004, 01:39 PM
"The D-Backs have looked at other alternatives, in St. Louis, Anaheim and Los Angeles, to name three. The White Sox were the most aggressive early with Paul Konerko (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5908), Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) and minor-league center fielder Brian Anderson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5152), but it is highly unlikely Johnson would go to the South Side of Chicago."

Uh oh...Wait till the fans of Jeremy Reed...I mean Brian Anderson get ahold of this.

MRKARNO
11-25-2004, 02:13 PM
Uh oh...Wait till the fans of Jeremy Reed...I mean Brian Anderson get ahold of this.
Jeremy Reed was coupled with a not too good prospect in Morse and a floundering ML catcher who has a lot of potential, but hasnt done much with it in Olivo. Anderson, a prospect about equal to Reed, if not better because of power potential, would be coupled with one of the best first basemen in the game statistically last year and a good starter in Garland (he's not incredible, but he's consistant for the most part, much better than anything AZ has now outside of Webb and Johnson). RJ, as good as he is, isn't worth losing the starting first basemen, a solid rotation guy AND our top prospect right now.

fquaye149
11-25-2004, 03:01 PM
Jeremy Reed was coupled with a not too good prospect in Morse and a floundering ML catcher who has a lot of potential, but hasnt done much with it in Olivo. Anderson, a prospect about equal to Reed, if not better because of power potential, would be coupled with one of the best first basemen in the game statistically last year and a good starter in Garland (he's not incredible, but he's consistant for the most part, much better than anything AZ has now outside of Webb and Johnson). RJ, as good as he is, isn't worth losing the starting first basemen, a solid rotation guy AND our top prospect right now.

said about as perfectly as possible.

Although Brian Anderson is not a future HOF'er like Jeremy Gwynn...I mean Kotsay...I mean Reed