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oldcomiskey
10-30-2004, 09:39 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/cubs/2004-10-29-stone-quit_x.htm

Greg1983
10-30-2004, 09:50 AM
It was great to see George quoted in this article on Yahoo. If you need it, here's the link:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=678&e=34&u=/usatoday/20041029/sp_usatoday/focusofcursedteamsturnstocubswhitesox


The more I think about this, the more I think that, from a marketing standpoint, it actually might be a good idea to start pushing the idea of a "Curse of the Black Sox" or a "Curse of Shoeless Joe."

Please don't misunderstand. Personally, I think the notion of a curse is moronic. But marketing is largely about selling stuff to morons. As much as I'd like to believe we could really build a "White Sox Nation" of fans as intelligent and passionate as most of the posters here at WSI, the truth is it might be impossible. Not because there aren't enough potential Sox fans in the world, but because there aren't enough intelligent people in the world.

If this sounds cynical or misanthropic, fine. But I think there is something mutually exclusive about having an intelligent fan base like ours and a huge fan base like the Flubs'. Just like you don't see huge mass audiences at the local symphony or productions of Chekhov.

'Course, the best way to market the team would be to win something, but that seems a long way off at best...

bigfoot
10-30-2004, 11:28 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/cubs/2004-10-29-stone-quit_x.htm
Now.....what else was the corporate giant let go in public? something like........"We really didn't like the way that Stoney was hammering on Dusty Toothpicks and Stinky Fingers Alou, and his insistance on ordering Kosher meals on the in-plane flights was messing with our caterer's bottom line. Besides,he wanted too much money and control over who we hired as Chimp's replacement. And we just can't have any whiners in the booth, that's reserved for in the dugout."
~Of course he wasn't "forced out", that's why there was an equitable compensation package buyout.

Risk
11-01-2004, 05:22 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/cubs/2004-10-29-stone-quit_x.htm
Yeah right, the next thing you know the sychophants at the Cubune will proclaim that the Pope really isn't Catholic.:rolleyes:

Risk

PaleHoseGeorge
11-01-2004, 05:52 PM
It was great to see George quoted in this article on Yahoo. If you need it, here's the link:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=678&e=34&u=/usatoday/20041029/sp_usatoday/focusofcursedteamsturnstocubswhitesox


The more I think about this, the more I think that, from a marketing standpoint, it actually might be a good idea to start pushing the idea of a "Curse of the Black Sox" or a "Curse of Shoeless Joe."

Please don't misunderstand. Personally, I think the notion of a curse is moronic. But marketing is largely about selling stuff to morons. As much as I'd like to believe we could really build a "White Sox Nation" of fans as intelligent and passionate as most of the posters here at WSI, the truth is it might be impossible. Not because there aren't enough potential Sox fans in the world, but because there aren't enough intelligent people in the world.

If this sounds cynical or misanthropic, fine. But I think there is something mutually exclusive about having an intelligent fan base like ours and a huge fan base like the Flubs'. Just like you don't see huge mass audiences at the local symphony or productions of Chekhov.

'Course, the best way to market the team would be to win something, but that seems a long way off at best...You want to market the Sox as having intelligent fans by creating a curse????
:?:

That one doesn't even come close to passing the smell test.

Here, try this. Instead of proving us equally moronic to the Lovable Losers, market this. "Sox Fans. Too Intelligent for Curses."

You might even include a billygoat with a red circle and slash across its face.
:cool:

WinningUgly!
11-01-2004, 06:53 PM
You want to market the Sox as having intelligent fans by creating a curse????
:?:

That one doesn't even come close to passing the smell test.

Here, try this. Instead of proving us equally moronic to the Lovable Losers, market this. "Sox Fans. Too Intelligent for Curses."

You might even include a billygoat with a red circle and slash across its face.
:cool:
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/winningugly/nogoat.JPG

robertks61
11-01-2004, 08:59 PM
Yeah right, the next thing you know the sychophants at the Cubune will proclaim that the Pope really isn't Catholic.:rolleyes:

And the Cub fans will believe it!

StillMissOzzie
11-02-2004, 01:03 AM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/winningugly/nogoat.JPG
I love the sentiment, WU, but could you move the text to below the circle & slash? It almost looks like a "No Sox Fans" sign until you read the 2nd line.

SMO
:bandance:

wdelaney72
11-02-2004, 09:38 AM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/winningugly/nogoat.JPG
Let us not forget...

"They: Believe They're Cursed"
"We: Agree"

Somebody send that to Brooks. He might actually jump on board with that one.

Greg1983
11-06-2004, 09:06 AM
You want to market the Sox as having intelligent fans by creating a curse????
:?:

That one doesn't even come close to passing the smell test.

Here, try this. Instead of proving us equally moronic to the Lovable Losers, market this. "Sox Fans. Too Intelligent for Curses."

You might even include a billygoat with a red circle and slash across its face.
:cool:
Actually, George, you and I agree on this one. What I was saying was that, for the Sox marketing to really broaden the fan base, we would probably have to start marketing to more dumb people, because I think dumb people are kind of in the majority.

So have a dilemma. Dumb things down and start talking about curses and perhaps entice some stupid people to the ballpark, or take the high road and forget about the curse BS and stay as we are. And my conclusion is that I would almost rather we stay "small" and keep our intelligent fan base intact and undiluted.

I'm mostly being silly and cynical. Maybe there is a way to market the Sox to a more intelligent breed of baseball fan and make it work. I just doubt it.