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Hangar18
10-08-2004, 12:43 PM
None of the Chicago teams are in the playoffs. But on a Random chance
I picked up the Cub-Times on wednesday and today. Imagine this.
On those two days, here are the number of stories STILL being generated
by the Lazy Chicago Media:

Cub-Times:
6 cub stories
1 sox story

4 cub stories
1 sox story

10 Cub stories
2 Sox stories

Hangar18
10-08-2004, 12:45 PM
Ive had ENOUGH of the "Wrigley-businesses-suffer-with-no-cub-playoffs" or the gratuitious Other-teams-think-cubs-are-great-why-arent-they-in-playoffs stories (you know thats a Mike Kiley article)

TDog
10-08-2004, 12:52 PM
Ive had ENOUGH of the "Wrigley-businesses-suffer-with-no-cub-playoffs" or the gratuitious Other-teams-think-cubs-are-great-why-arent-they-in-playoffs stories (you know thats a Mike Kiley article)
Like businesses in New York and Atlanta, Lakeview merchants have been spoiled by the consistent success of their neighborhood team.

pudge
10-08-2004, 01:02 PM
come on hangar, a lot of these are negative stories about the Cubs right now. chicagosports.com had a story about Sosa being the most vile teammate in Chicago sports history, which I thought was a little over the top, but delightful nonetheless. With the whole Sosa/Steve Stone thing, I don't mind all the bad press the Cubs are getting... it's about time they got some. :)

Justafan
10-08-2004, 01:08 PM
come on hangar, a lot of these are negative stories about the Cubs right now. chicagosports.com had a story about Sosa being the most vile teammate in Chicago sports history, which I thought was a little over the top, but delightful nonetheless. With the whole Sosa/Steve Stone thing, I don't mind all the bad press the Cubs are getting... it's about time they got some. :)
I actually think the guy who started the thread is on to something. What the media appears to be doing is FORCING the Cubs to IMPROVE by trading Sosa. They are calling the Cubs out and letting the Sox skate by with no negative press for the most part.

HebrewHammer
10-08-2004, 01:11 PM
Please not another year of "Insanity with Hangar", until the Sox put together a team this is going to be a ScRubs town, hopefully next year the media and fans won't be nearly as obnoxious after their collective de-pantsing in September.

kittle42
10-08-2004, 01:32 PM
I must say, the "Steve Kline is sure glad the Cardinals did not have to face the Cubs" article is a load of horsecrap.

But I absolutely love the other publicity the Cubs have been getting over the past week.

thepaulbowski
10-08-2004, 01:56 PM
The more Sammy articles in the paper, the better. He's being exposed for the clubhouse cancer/fraud/cheater/etc. he is.

Blueprint1
10-08-2004, 01:59 PM
come on hangar, a lot of these are negative stories about the Cubs right now. chicagosports.com had a story about Sosa being the most vile teammate in Chicago sports history, which I thought was a little over the top, but delightful nonetheless. With the whole Sosa/Steve Stone thing, I don't mind all the bad press the Cubs are getting... it's about time they got some. :)
I think this is just a setup so that when the Cubs trade Sosa there will be no negative press from the fans. If the sox traded say Frank Thomas the media would be up in arms about how they traded the best hitter in franchise history. The bad press will give the cubs a free pass to trade Sosa.

Dick Allen
10-08-2004, 04:46 PM
Yesterday, the back FIVE pages of the Cub-Times, including Sammy's mug on the back, were all about the Cubs, while Frank Thomas' ankle surgery got a little blip. I'm about to cancel my subscription. How many days in a row can Mariotti write about the same damn thing?

Flight #24
10-08-2004, 04:54 PM
Yesterday, the back FIVE pages of the Cub-Times, including Sammy's mug on the back, were all about the Cubs, while Frank Thomas' ankle surgery got a little blip. I'm about to cancel my subscription. How many days in a row can Mariotti write about the same damn thing?
1,183 and counting....:cool:

jackbrohamer
10-08-2004, 04:58 PM
The Cub Times also has a Chris DeLuca column suggesting that the Cards' Tony Womack's leadoff hitting made the difference between the St. L. and the Cubs this year. He didn't mention that maybe having Walker, Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds and Renteria following him in the order may have made a bit of a difference as well.............

kittle42
10-08-2004, 04:59 PM
Yesterday, the back FIVE pages of the Cub-Times, including Sammy's mug on the back, were all about the Cubs, while Frank Thomas' ankle surgery got a little blip. I'm about to cancel my subscription. How many days in a row can Mariotti write about the same damn thing?
If it were reversed - if it was Frank who walked out on the team and Sammy who had surgery - people here would be bitching about "How can Mariotti writ ethe saem negative Sox crap every day? Can't someone talk about Sammy Sosa's surgery?"

Ol' No. 2
10-08-2004, 05:01 PM
None of the Chicago teams are in the playoffs. But on a Random chance
I picked up the Cub-Times on wednesday and today. Imagine this.
On those two days, here are the number of stories STILL being generated
by the Lazy Chicago Media:

Cub-Times:
6 cub stories
1 sox story

4 cub stories
1 sox story

10 Cub stories
2 Sox storiesWOW! There were TWO Sox stories????

LVSoxFan
10-08-2004, 05:28 PM
The sad part is that, at the beginning of the summer you may remember, when the Sox were on a tear and the Cubs were stumbling, the Sox were actually getting more press than the Cubs--at least in the Sun-Times.

Mariotti even pointed it out; and I thought: thank God, after the endless post-season last year coupled with the Greatest Collapse in Chicago Sports History, it's about time the Sox were getting some press.

Unfortunately, the Sox played their way out of coverage, and the Cubs started to sort-of right themselves, and Chicago went back to being a Cubs-obsessed town. And for their support, Cub fans were rewarded with not the greatest choke in Chicago baseball--nothing will top that 8th inning last year--but certainly one of the top five.

BTW I live in Lakeview and last year, post-season, was insanity. Every bar in and around the field was packed to capacity. Helicopters overhead before, during and after. People were charging $100 to park in their spaces (usually they ask for $20). If you were a non-sports bar Cub game nights were killers. It was out of control, and so were their obnoxious fans, who then spilled drunkenly into the street after every game. Yeah, the bars won't have the sky-high profits like last year, but that was a fluke. A century of losing and the bars are suprised we're not in the post-season? Then don't open in that neighborhood, dude!

C-Dawg
10-08-2004, 07:21 PM
The sad part is that, at the beginning of the summer you may remember, when the Sox were on a tear and the Cubs were stumbling, the Sox were actually getting more press than the Cubs--at least in the Sun-Times.



Hangar's been keeping track of the coverage most of the season, and on most days the Cubs received more stories, even when the Sox were in first place and the Cubs weren't. There were exceptions, of course, but they were rare.

Dick Allen
10-08-2004, 09:22 PM
If it were reversed - if it was Frank who walked out on the team and Sammy who had surgery - people here would be bitching about "How can Mariotti writ ethe saem negative Sox crap every day? Can't someone talk about Sammy Sosa's surgery?"If it were reversed, I guarantee you the Sox wouldn't have gotten the back five pages of the Sun-Times.

hellenicsoxfan
10-09-2004, 04:43 AM
WOW! There were TWO Sox stories????Only because Frank had surgery. Otherwise, Hangar's scoreboard would read:

10 Cub stories
0 Sox stories

cornball
10-09-2004, 08:34 AM
Hanger I do appreciate your keeping track of this because it is so obvious, yet so many still do not believe it. The other factor in the stories, are the headlines, particularly in the Tribune which usually have a negative tone covering the Sox and a possitive tone covering the Cubs .

The interesting thing about this week is the cheerleading by columnists cheerleading for the Cubs to go after Beltran, Renteria and other top FA. It is just sad but true.

SSN721
10-09-2004, 09:56 AM
As much as I respect the time and effort Hangar puts into these media watches, I just think at this point there is more to talk about with the Cubs. I still think it is slanted because if the Cubs had the situation where two key members of the team were having surgery after delaying (which I agree with, I cant argue medical opinion) and another going to Europe to get surgery from a specialist there would be a lot more press about it. But what are you gonna do? We all know the bias is there and the Sox will have to win their way back to getting as much or more press, no matter how unfair that might be, its just the way it is.

rwcescato
10-09-2004, 12:59 PM
Please not another year of "Insanity with Hangar", until the Sox put together a team this is going to be a ScRubs town, hopefully next year the media and fans won't be nearly as obnoxious after their collective de-pantsing in September.

In what has been going on with those scrubs I believe right now is our chance
to take some flub fans over to our side. The flubs have disgraced this city with all the whining and fingerpointing. Then the Sosa episode happened. This can only make all White Sox fans smile. Now If KW can get down to some serious business and steal some off-season headlines away then maybe we will steal some fair weather fans into our side. JR has to see this as a great opportunity
to get some fans back and spend some money. If we could do a reversal and pick up a Carl Pavano type pitcher, along with Beltran or someone of that character the city might look at us differently. The fans have shown this year that a winning team will put 2+million fans into the stadium. I know I am dreaming but you never know.
Rich

flo-B-flo
10-09-2004, 01:08 PM
In what has been going on with those scrubs I believe right now is our chance
to take some flub fans over to our side. The flubs have disgraced this city with all the whining and fingerpointing. Then the Sosa episode happened. This can only make all White Sox fans smile. Now If KW can get down to some serious business and steal some off-season headlines away then maybe we will steal some fair weather fans into our side. JR has to see this as a great opportunity
to get some fans back and spend some money. If we could do a reversal and pick up a Carl Pavano type pitcher, along with Beltran or someone of that character the city might look at us differently. The fans have shown this year that a winning team will put 2+million fans into the stadium. I know I am dreaming but you never know.
Rich Riensey??? Pavano???? Beltran!?!?!?!? nighty night!:wink:

Ol' No. 2
10-09-2004, 01:17 PM
Riensey??? Pavano???? Beltran!?!?!?!? nighty night!:wink:I'm not that pessimistic. I don't doubt the Sox will be willing to make a reasonable offer to Pavano. The problem is, with the Yankees looking for two starters for next year, a reasonable offer may not do it. All things considered, I'd rather see the Sox pass on Pavano and go to their second choice than to overpay and not have enough resources to address their other needs. They still need to beef up the bullpen, and a leadoff hitter would be nice.

Deadguy
10-09-2004, 01:26 PM
Yesterday, the back FIVE pages of the Cub-Times, including Sammy's mug on the back, were all about the Cubs, while Frank Thomas' ankle surgery got a little blip. I'm about to cancel my subscription. How many days in a row can Mariotti write about the same damn thing?I cancelled my subscription five years ago. Any newspaper that employs Mariotti isn't getting any of my expendable income, which isn't much in the first place.

flo-B-flo
10-09-2004, 08:40 PM
I'm not that pessimistic. I don't doubt the Sox will be willing to make a reasonable offer to Pavano. The problem is, with the Yankees looking for two starters for next year, a reasonable offer may not do it. All things considered, I'd rather see the Sox pass on Pavano and go to their second choice than to overpay and not have enough resources to address their other needs. They still need to beef up the bullpen, and a leadoff hitter would be nice. Happily Pessimistic! Then you wrote why I am so. George needs pitching. He will outbid anyone for it. Riensy vs George for Pavano. I wonder who will win?:rolleyes:

SOXSINCE'70
10-10-2004, 07:01 PM
How many days in a row can Mariotti write about the same damn thing?
He's been doing it since 1991,sadly.Wish Reinsdork could have gotten him fired.
I know his routine: sCrUBS rule,Sox drool,Reinsdork sucks,the South Side is a dangerous neighborhood (even though there's more crime,if not as much crime
in that garbage pit Lakeview).
Just go away,Maggott-otti.Go far,far away.

:chunks

Ol' No. 2
10-11-2004, 10:38 AM
Happily Pessimistic! Then you wrote why I am so. George needs pitching. He will outbid anyone for it. Riensy vs George for Pavano. I wonder who will win?:rolleyes: Except that there is a bumper crop of FA pitchers this year. It's not Pavano or nothing. They could also try to swing a trade for a pitcher and fill in another position with a FA. There are lots of possibilities.

flo-B-flo
10-11-2004, 10:02 PM
Except that there is a bumper crop of FA pitchers this year. It's not Pavano or nothing. They could also try to swing a trade for a pitcher and fill in another position with a FA. There are lots of possibilities. If the Sox don't sign Freddie Garcia, George makes a better offer. History says George usually gets what he wants when he feels the Yankers need it. Riensy signs pitchers as if he's pulling teeth.:wink: I was shocked by his signing Garcia.