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Lip Man 1
09-23-2004, 06:18 PM
You may recall on another thread the question was asked / answered if baseball had divisional formats when the Sox were ripping off their run of 17 consecutive winning seasons (1951-1967) how many times would they have made the playoffs?

What the hell...let's find out!

There weren't enough teams for three divisions but they had enough for a split East / West format (some years only four teams would have been in it but that's no different from today is it?) The alignments are determined by geography only.

So here is what we have from 1951 through 1953

East: New York, Boston, Washington, Philadelphia
West: White Sox, St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit

and the winners are:

1951- Yankees and Indians
1952- Yankees and Indians
1953- Yankees and Indians

Starting in 1954 St. Louis moved to Baltimore. So the Orioles went to the East and the Athletics franchise went West. (and stayed there even when they moved to Kansas City)

East: New York, Baltimore, Boston, Washington
West: White Sox, Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia/Kansas City

and the winners are:

1954-Yankees and Indians
1955-Yankees and Indians
1956-Yankees and Indians
1957-Yankees and White Sox
1958-Yankees and White Sox
1959-Yankees and White Sox
1960-Yankees and White Sox

In 1961 Los Angeles and Minnesota were added so again changes were made based on geography

East: New York, Baltimore, Boston, Washington, Cleveland
West: White Sox, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Kansas City, Detroit

and the winners are:

1961-Yankees and Tigers
1962-Yankees and Twins
1963-Yankees and White Sox
1964-Yankees and White Sox
1965-Orioles and Twins
1966-Orioles and Twins
1967-Red Sox and Tigers

Six playoff appearances by the Sox. Not to bad for a slap hitting, base stealing, fundamentally sound, no home run hitting team.

Lip

batmanZoSo
09-23-2004, 07:20 PM
You may recall on another thread the question was asked / answered if baseball had divisional formats when the Sox were ripping off their run of 17 consecutive winning seasons (1951-1967) how many times would they have made the playoffs?

What the hell...let's find out!

There weren't enough teams for three divisions but they had enough for a split East / West format (some years only four teams would have been in it but that's no different from today is it?) The alignments are determined by geography only.

So here is what we have from 1951 through 1953

East: New York, Boston, Washington, Philadelphia
West: White Sox, St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit

and the winners are:

1951- Yankees and Indians
1952- Yankees and Indians
1953- Yankees and Indians

Starting in 1954 St. Louis moved to Baltimore. So the Orioles went to the East and the Athletics franchise went West. (and stayed there even when they moved to Kansas City)

East: New York, Baltimore, Boston, Washington
West: White Sox, Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia/Kansas City

and the winners are:

1954-Yankees and Indians
1955-Yankees and Indians
1956-Yankees and Indians
1957-Yankees and White Sox
1958-Yankees and White Sox
1959-Yankees and White Sox
1960-Yankees and White Sox

In 1961 Los Angeles and Minnesota were added so again changes were made based on geography

East: New York, Baltimore, Boston, Washington, Cleveland
West: White Sox, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Kansas City, Detroit

and the winners are:

1961-Yankees and Tigers
1962-Yankees and Twins
1963-Yankees and White Sox
1964-Yankees and White Sox
1965-Orioles and Twins
1966-Orioles and Twins
1967-Red Sox and Tigers

Six playoff appearances by the Sox. Not to bad for a slap hitting, base stealing, fundamentally sound, no home run hitting team.

Lip

We lost the 59 world series so that leaves us with 5 other chances to win it all. The ALCS would've been us and the Yankees every time, so that could've been something like NY/KC rivalry of the late 70s. And surely we could've squeaked by and won it all once. At least made another appearance or two. Cool thing to bring up...

misty60481
09-23-2004, 08:08 PM
Lipman--you are forgetting they played in Comiskey Park not the Cell so nobody hit a lot of home runs there, we cant go back to that kind of silly baseball the guys now are bigger & stronger and go for the long ball, a ballplayer that hits 40 HRs gets a bigger salary that a slap type hitter unless you are Ichero and can grind out 250 Hits per year---

Lip Man 1
09-23-2004, 09:19 PM
Misty:

Is it any more silly then the last four brain dead, underachieving, slow footed, station to station, swing at anything, 225 home run's a year approach?

Look at the number of wins the past four seasons and average that out.

Mediocrity thy name is White Sox.

Lip