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mantis1212
08-26-2004, 02:09 PM
Did no one post this yet? The umpire's tunnel will now be seats, with some other perks, including a restaurant and paths past the clubhouses.


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-040826soxnewseats,1,4953543.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

nodiggity59
08-26-2004, 02:17 PM
You can put it on the board. Not sure about the restaurant, but the Ump Tunnel needed to go

mantis1212
08-26-2004, 02:20 PM
I think this is the restaurant announced a couple weeks ago, near/on the concourse behind home plate/first base.

batmanZoSo
08-26-2004, 02:23 PM
Did no one post this yet? The umpire's tunnel will now be seats, with some other perks, including a restaurant and paths past the clubhouses.


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-040826soxnewseats,1,4953543.story?coll=cs-home-headlines
I've always thought they needed to cover that up with seats. Behind the plate on camera all you see is net, cameras and darkness. Doesn't do much to help the average fan, but it does create another money making zone and it does beautify the park a little bit. It'll be different to look at.

Baby Fisk
08-26-2004, 02:23 PM
Nice move, about time. Now WSIers can get on camera and wave from behind home plate. :cool:

Tekijawa
08-26-2004, 02:40 PM
Nice move, about time. Now WSIers can get on camera and wave from behind home plate. :cool:
I'm running out to buy a cell phone right now!!!

Baby Fisk
08-26-2004, 02:45 PM
I'm running out to buy a cell phone right now!!!Remember, for quality cell phone service, trust U.S. Cellular. :cool:

shingotime10
08-26-2004, 02:47 PM
heres a pic of the seats http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/images/ticketing/y2005/scouts_seats/seating_581x449.jpg

batmanZoSo
08-26-2004, 02:50 PM
heres a pic of the seats http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/images/ticketing/y2005/scouts_seats/seating_581x449.jpg
"Renderings subject to change."

I would imagine that means ignore that this new section looks like it's been just plopped over the old one and the aisles don't match up and that the stairway opens up into the middle of the normal sections behind it. Come on guys, you can give us a better visual than that.

Just an editorial...still in favor of the plan.

SaltyPretzel
08-26-2004, 03:11 PM
The new seats convert into flat beds so fans can catch up on their sleep during those meaningless late September games.

Sell Jerry Sell!
08-26-2004, 03:40 PM
Here is another part of phase V renovations:

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/news/cws_press_release.jsp?ymd=20040826&content_id=838918&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/2004/08/26/84s5Oinw.jpg

KingXerxes
08-26-2004, 03:43 PM
Here is another part of phase V renovations:

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/news/cws_press_release.jsp?ymd=20040826&content_id=838918&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/2004/08/26/84s5Oinw.jpg
I running to my bank now to take out a 2nd on my house in order to buy tickets for three games in this section. I would like to be the first one to congratulate Jerry Reinsdorf on having the vision to realize that a lack of "Scout Seats" was the reason his team has suffered at the gate. Way to go Jerry - you've done it again!

Baby Fisk
08-26-2004, 03:44 PM
Those seats are blue!

A.T. Money
08-26-2004, 03:46 PM
I running to my bank now to take out a 2nd on my house in order to buy tickets for three games in this section. I would like to be the first one to congratulate Jerry Reinsdorf on having the vision to realize that a lack of "Scout Seats" was the reason his team has suffered at the gate. Way to go Jerry - you've done it again!
The businesses will eat that price up, for 314 seats?

That'll sell out really fast, no doubt.

mantis1212
08-26-2004, 03:47 PM
Those seats are blue!
LOL I didn't even think of that!

KingXerxes
08-26-2004, 03:51 PM
The businesses will eat that price up, for 314 seats?

That'll sell out really fast, no doubt.
:reinsy

"Hey I've got great news, we sold all of our 314 "Scout Seats" to corporations for all 81 games."

:hawk

"Congratualtions Mr. Reinsdorf, I knew that your idea would be a great one."

:rooney

"But didn't most of those buyers come from old Skybox holders who decided not to renew? I hear you've got quite a few vacancies up there now."

:KW

"Rooney, don't you dare ever speak to Mr. Reinsdorf in that tone. Mr. Reinsdorf do you want me to fire this guy?"

PaleHoseGeorge
08-26-2004, 03:52 PM
Hey! How are the umpires suppose to get off the field???

Let me guess... they have to change into gym shoes, then walk up the aisle, across the main concourse, down the ramps, out the gate, cross 35th Street, and then change into their street clothes inside the mens' room at McCuddy's. Oh, wait...
:wink:

:reinsy
"LOL! In your dreams, Sox Fans!"

mantis1212
08-26-2004, 03:53 PM
[QUOTE=A.T. Money]The businesses will eat that price up, for 314 seats?



You know, doing the math on that, the roughly $60K a game. That's about how much 4,300 upper deck reserved seats would bring in at $14 a seat. Can't argue with this move

FightingBillini
08-26-2004, 03:58 PM
Leave it to the Sox to mess this up. Is anyone else annoyed that there is STILL a gaping hole right behind home? Its not as big ad before, but its still an eyesore in my opinion.

This cant cost that much money, there has to be more. Is there any indication yet that this is the last of phase 5?

soxnut
08-26-2004, 04:01 PM
The businesses will eat that price up, for 314 seats?

That'll sell out really fast, no doubt.
Exactly. Those seats will be purchased by corporations and such. I hoping some friends' companies will get seats like that. Those will be cool. And they'll look great on tv. I hope they're not going to be blue though.

soxnut
08-26-2004, 04:05 PM
Leave it to the Sox to mess this up. Is anyone else annoyed that there is STILL a gaping hole right behind home? Its not as big ad before, but its still an eyesore in my opinion.

This cant cost that much money, there has to be more. Is there any indication yet that this is the last of phase 5?

It's not messed up. I think in Baltimore they have a similar gap as well. You still have to have some gap in order for fans to access the restaurant and clubhouse. How else can you get there?:o:


This can't be the only thing left that they are going to do. If it was, I think that they would have mentioned that it was the final pie of the Phase V renoavtions.

Brian26
08-26-2004, 04:13 PM
It's all fine by me as long as we can hire that waitress from the Blue Jays to work our home games.

FightingBillini
08-26-2004, 04:13 PM
Baltimore has an area like that, and so does Cleveland. However, in the newer parks like PNC and SBC, there is none. If Im mistaken, the umps come through the home dugout like in the older parks.

I just hate the one big entrance right in the focal point of the TV screen. They should put a couple of smaller ones off to the side or something, just not one big one in the middle. Also, Im not the biggest fan of the brick wall around the section. Other parks have an "inner backstop" and a few rows of seating in front of it, but its runs parallel to the backstop. This really is the separation of classes that Reinsdorf loves.

soxnut
08-26-2004, 04:26 PM
This really is the separation of classes that Reinsdorf loves.
Oh, give me a break..........:whiner:

soxnut
08-26-2004, 04:28 PM
It's all fine by me as long as we can hire that waitress from the Blue Jays to work our home games.

Hey you've noticed her too? Man, she is hot. She's been there for at least the last two years.:bandance: :gulp: :smile:

PaleHoseGeorge
08-26-2004, 04:39 PM
Hey you've noticed her too? Man, she is hot. She's been there for at least the last two years.LMAO! Make that makes three of us!

I remember watching the last 1-1/2 innings of a meaningless Sox game from SkyDome on TV last year for no other reason than watching her come and go behind homeplate.

Good stuff...

:bandance:

iwannago
08-26-2004, 04:46 PM
LMAO! Make that makes three of us!

I remember watching the last 1-1/2 innings of a meaningless Sox game from SkyDome on TV last year for no other reason than watching her come and go behind homeplate.

Good stuff...

:bandance:
There is a nice looking babe at Tropicana also!

skobabe8
08-26-2004, 05:23 PM
Those seats are blue!
Thats the first thing I noticed, too.

nitetrain8601
08-26-2004, 08:43 PM
Blue seats???? There goes our pennant chances down the crapper.


BTW, I think that wall and stuff will be there for the simple fact is, it's supposed to seperate the people sitting there from everyone else to make them feel special. I wish I was able to get my hand on those seats. Eh Well.

hsnterprize
08-27-2004, 07:47 AM
According to a report from the 5AM CBS 2 Newscast, the Sox will offer "Scout Seats" starting next season. The seats will be built behind home plate, and they'll be offered for a pretty penny. The front row seats will be $200, while other seats in that section will go for $170.

Now, I haven't seen anything about this on the whitesox.com website, so don't try to find it there. I saw a picture of the "scout seats" on TV, and they'll be built behind home plate, and there will be a small strip of walkway built in the center of the section to access the field.

Here's another ballpark tip...a big U.S. Cellular Field banner is on the top of the roof behind home plate. Next time you see the park from a helicopter view, take a look for it. Not that it'll make the team on the field any better, but hey...I think it's cool.

mrwag
08-27-2004, 07:49 AM
I saw the seats on Whitesox.com. So, no more behind the plate cameras? No more umpire tunnel?

hsnterprize
08-27-2004, 08:07 AM
Oops...I goofed. I tried to find the seats on whitesox.com, but couldn't. I just found the page about them, so I stand (or type) corrected.

wdelaney72
08-27-2004, 08:42 AM
I'm glad to see the umpire tunnel being filled in. On TV it looks awful.

BeerHandle
08-27-2004, 08:43 AM
Good luck finding Sox fans that will pay $170-$200 per seat. PLEASE!

thepaulbowski
08-27-2004, 08:45 AM
Good move by the Sox. Every other team in baseball (in sports for that matter) has these type of seats. Why shouldn't the Sox?

Brian26
08-27-2004, 09:36 AM
Good luck finding Sox fans that will pay $170-$200 per seat. PLEASE!

Businesses will scoop these up in a jiffy.

LuvSox
08-27-2004, 10:33 AM
The fan deck goes corporate, these seats, presumably, will be corporate. At least we still have dollar dog Thursdays. :D:

Jjav829
08-27-2004, 10:45 AM
The fan deck goes corporate, these seats, presumably, will be corporate. At least we still have dollar dog Thursdays. :D:
Soon to be known as Viagra dollar dog Thursday. :D:

thepaulbowski
08-27-2004, 10:48 AM
The fan deck goes corporate, these seats, presumably, will be corporate. At least we still have dollar dog Thursdays. :D:

I attend many events using "corporate" tickets, so I have no problem with this.

danjames
08-27-2004, 11:30 AM
It's worth noting, as well, that the 170-200 dollars includes parking, and complimentary food and beverages for the night. At least that's what I remember reading a few days ago. This way, for the price of the ticket, you're completely covered.

Still very expensive, but it's nice that you're all taken care of for that kind of coin.

SaltyPretzel
08-27-2004, 11:35 AM
If you drink 20 beers it all evens out. :gulp:

Viva Magglio
08-27-2004, 11:35 AM
It seems that several of the renovations that have taken place are inspired by Busch Stadium.

This is very similar to what the current Busch Stadium has. There is still a small umpires' tunner at Busch, but it's also used by Cardinal fans to access the green prime seats behind home plate and a restaurant underneath the lower deck stands.

Other Busch influences in our renovations include the Bullpen Sports Bar's exterior tables (similar to Homer's Landing in left field at Busch). Private use of the Fan Deck (somewhat similar to the Batter's Eye club restarurant Busch has).

And if the White Sox ever build the grand entrance at 35th and Wentworth (left field corner), it would be just like Busch's grand entrance at Broadway and Walnut Streets (where the Stan Musial statue is).

StillMissOzzie
08-27-2004, 11:58 AM
Soon to be known as Viagra dollar dog Thursday. :D:
What, 3 inches longer?

SMO
:D:

Jerry_Manuel
08-27-2004, 01:46 PM
Here's another ballpark tip...a big U.S. Cellular Field banner is on the top of the roof behind home plate. Next time you see the park from a helicopter view, take a look for it. Not that it'll make the team on the field any better, but hey...I think it's cool.
Here is the rendering:

Hangar18
08-27-2004, 02:05 PM
I see the SOX are Defiantly going to put that mini cell on the concourse,
obstructing the view from there. Dont get me wrong ....................
ANYTHING that REMOVES those HORRIBLY OUT OF SCALE, UNIMAGINATIVE BILLBOARDS from sight is great news indeed. But to put an oversized PlayPen there? CMON !!!!!!!! at least move it BACK so it doesnt Obstruct the views ...........

skobabe8
08-27-2004, 02:34 PM
I see the SOX are Defiantly going to put that mini cell on the concourse,
obstructing the view from there. Dont get me wrong ....................
ANYTHING that REMOVES those HORRIBLY OUT OF SCALE, UNIMAGINATIVE BILLBOARDS from sight is great news indeed. But to put an oversized PlayPen there? CMON !!!!!!!! at least move it BACK so it doesnt Obstruct the views ...........
Who's view is it going to obstruct?????

Brian26
08-27-2004, 03:27 PM
Who's view is it going to obstruct?????

All of the people who buy cheap tickets on half price night and then stand up on the concourse as close to the beer stand as possible hoping that someday they might actually be cool enough or convince their parents to lend them the rent money to live in Wrigleyville. The american-trixie dream.

ewokpelts
08-27-2004, 05:22 PM
All of the people who buy cheap tickets on half price night and then stand up on the concourse as close to the beer stand as possible hoping that someday they might actually be cool enough or convince their parents to lend them the rent money to live in Wrigleyville. The american-trixie dream.amen brother
Gene

Hitmen77
08-28-2004, 11:11 PM
Will there be other renovations beyond this? Does this mean that a HR Porch or Grand Entrance will not happen - or may there be additional renovations in the future?

I thought all the renovations would be done by 2005, but the Trib article said the Sox were still planning for green seats in a year or two.

inta
08-29-2004, 01:49 AM
Will there be other renovations beyond this? Does this mean that a HR Porch or Grand Entrance will not happen - or may there be additional renovations in the future?

I thought all the renovations would be done by 2005, but the Trib article said the Sox were still planning for green seats in a year or two.
although nothing has been said, i really think the HR porch is a dead idea. and was replaced by the FUNdamentals thingamajig. i doubt JR will want to lose ad revenue by losing ALL billboards...
oh well, i wish they'd still do it, having fundamentals and the HR porch, or at least extending the UD in right, would make the cell feel more "cozy".

it's not like there's much of a view behind the scoreboard...

soxnut
08-29-2004, 08:45 PM
although nothing has been said, i really think the HR porch is a dead idea. and was replaced by the FUNdamentals thingamajig. i doubt JR will want to lose ad revenue by losing ALL billboards...
oh well, i wish they'd still do it, having fundamentals and the HR porch, or at least extending the UD in right, would make the cell feel more "cozy".

it's not like there's much of a view behind the scoreboard...

Why would you think that if they made an HR porch they would lose revenue? Just because those large billboards would be gone, doesn't mean that some other type of signage wouldn't be put in place somewhere else--such as the facade of the HR porch.

soxnut
08-29-2004, 08:49 PM
All of the people who buy cheap tickets on half price night and then stand up on the concourse as close to the beer stand as possible hoping that someday they might actually be cool enough or convince their parents to lend them the rent money to live in Wrigleyville. The american-trixie dream.

Exactly. People up on that concourse aren't paying attention to the game much anyway. All they're doing is drinking, smoking and gawking there anyway. Just like Wrigley, so who cares if it obsturcts their view. If you want to watch the game and not have an obstructed view, go sit in your freaking seat.

pinwheels3530
08-30-2004, 06:27 PM
Just got back from the game today and talked to security guard who said that private restaurant will be built at gate 3 where the fundamentals kid area is currently located. This is exactly what I thought the sox should do, but a Hooters:tongue: would have been much better for the general public to visit before the game, I don't think they need another private restaurant!

Also they are looking into putting another seating area in right field where the current LaSalle Bank billboard is at, it won't be full blown homerun porch like originally thought but more like a mini-deck. He also confirmed that the gate 5 ramp was suppose to be knocked sown (just like the picture that realist has posted in the gallery) but doesn't think there is enough funds left. He also mentioned that they are still deciding on the color of the new seats that will be put in gray or green.

So there will be no grand entrance, no homerun porch, no restaurants along 35th st were the offices are currently located all that Will cost way more money than the sox have from U.S. Cellar.:(:

soxnut
08-30-2004, 07:32 PM
Also they are looking into putting another seating area in right field where the current LaSalle Bank billboard is at, it won't be full blown homerun porch like originally thought but more like a mini-deck.:(:

If you go to the HKS website, it shows the mini-deck in that rendering. I don't think many have noticed it, and I suppose HKS hasn't noticed it either.

It is very disappointing to hear that they won't have enough funds(if that's really true) for a grand entrance. As great as the new restaurant sounds, there still needs to be more things for the casual fan.:(:

ewokpelts
08-30-2004, 10:54 PM
If you go to the HKS website, it shows the mini-deck in that rendering. I don't think many have noticed it, and I suppose HKS hasn't noticed it either.

It is very disappointing to hear that they won't have enough funds(if that's really true) for a grand entrance. As great as the new restaurant sounds, there still needs to be more things for the casual fan.:(:which image? all i see are the older 2003 stuff.
Gene

soxnut
08-31-2004, 08:53 AM
which image? all i see are the older 2003 stuff.
Gene

When you click on the Sox logo on the first page,the next screen shows 3 columns, the first one on the left has a rendering that shows the minideck in rf. It's supposed to be concentrating on the upper deck roof.

skobabe8
08-31-2004, 09:51 AM
Just got back from the game today and talked to security guard who said that private restaurant will be built at gate 3 where the fundamentals kid area is currently located. This is exactly what I thought the sox should do, but a Hooters:tongue: would have been much better for the general public to visit before the game, I don't think they need another private restaurant!

Also they are looking into putting another seating area in right field where the current LaSalle Bank billboard is at, it won't be full blown homerun porch like originally thought but more like a mini-deck. He also confirmed that the gate 5 ramp was suppose to be knocked sown (just like the picture that realist has posted in the gallery) but doesn't think there is enough funds left. He also mentioned that they are still deciding on the color of the new seats that will be put in gray or green.

So there will be no grand entrance, no homerun porch, no restaurants along 35th st were the offices are currently located all that Will cost way more money than the sox have from U.S. Cellar.:(:
Damn fools! :angry:

MisterB
08-31-2004, 09:55 AM
which image? all i see are the older 2003 stuff.
GeneIt's not easy to make out because the picture is small. Here it is with arrow pointing it out.

ewokpelts
08-31-2004, 10:01 AM
When you click on the Sox logo on the first page,the next screen shows 3 columns, the first one on the left has a rendering that shows the minideck in rf. It's supposed to be concentrating on the upper deck roof.OK......I see it now.....and, as you can see, ther will still be room for an ad.(which makes jerry happy)
Gene

Lem_Siddons
08-31-2004, 10:04 AM
Ahh, the good old days when people went to a baseball game for a baseball game. What a concept. No private restaurants, no waitresses, just a nice hard seat, a luke warm beer, and an equally luke warm hotdog.

Soon we'll have 6,000 at the Cell and there won't be a game.

pinwheels3530
08-31-2004, 04:00 PM
I hope they won't be any yuppie cub fans who sit back there since most corporations have tickets to both parks, they'll be waving their stupid hats on
TV!

soxnut
09-01-2004, 12:24 AM
It's not easy to make out because the picture is small. Here it is with arrow pointing it out.

And I'm sure this graphic will be taken down off the HKS site...if there are any Sox front office people lurking on this board.:o: :tongue: :?: