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bigdommer
08-03-2004, 10:01 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/slezak/cst-spt-carol03.html

In support of the true Sox fans who believe that the Sox are still in the thick of the race, there is an article in the Sun-times that points out a few facts about the race. The Sox have only lost 49 games and they have 60 to go. If they go 37 up and 23 down, 14 games over (which is possible with their schedule and their staff), they will win 90 games. And those 90 games would win the division. If we can just focus on winning some series, we should be allright. It's all about beating KC, DET, and CLE.

fledgedrallycap
08-03-2004, 10:13 AM
I'm usually not a fan of her, but that article put some perspective in this whole thing and put all blatant biasness and love aside.

PorkChopExpress
08-03-2004, 10:16 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/slezak/cst-spt-carol03.html

In support of the true Sox fans who believe that the Sox are still in the thick of the race, there is an article in the Sun-times that points out a few facts about the race. The Sox have only lost 49 games and they have 60 to go. If they go 37 up and 23 down, 14 games over (which is possible with their schedule and their staff), they will win 90 games. And those 90 games would win the division. If we can just focus on winning some series, we should be allright. It's all about beating KC, DET, and CLE.
Maybe I'm just overly optimistic, but I was just depressed at a seven game losing streak. I never thought they were out of the race. The Twins just have not been good enough this year for me to think that we cannot catch them. As far as I know, it's not over until one or the other of us is eliminated. So let's win. And frankly, I think we can do better than 37 and 23.

Frater Perdurabo
08-03-2004, 11:32 AM
Carol is EXACTLY right.

Here are more reasons:

1. By far the best starting pitching in the division.

2. You cannot overstate how much the schedule favors the Sox:

40 of 60 remaining games are in the division (20 home, 20 away): 14 vs. Kansas City (7 home, 7 away); 12 vs. Detroit (6 home, 6 away); 8 vs. Cleveland (4 home, 4 away); 6 vs. Minnesota (3 home, 3 away).

They have 20 non-division games (10 home, 10 away): 6 vs. Boston (3 home, 3 away); 1 vs. Philly (home); 3 vs. Oakland (home); 3 vs. Seattle (away); 4 vs. Texas (away); 3 vs. Anaheim (away). They don't have to go to Oakland or Seattle; they only visit Boston, Texas and Anaheim.

Meanwhile, the Twins have 26 remaining division games (12 home, 14 away): 13 vs. Cleveland (6 home, 7 away); only 3 vs. KC (home); 4 vs. Detroit (away); and 6 vs. Chicago (3 home, 3 away).

Furthermore, the Twins have 32 non-division games remaining (16 home, 16 away): 6 vs. Anaheim (3 home, 3 away); 4 vs. Oakland (home); 3 vs. Seattle (away); 6 vs. Yankees (3 home, 3 away); 7 vs. Texas (3 home, 4 away); 6 vs. Baltimore (3 home, 3 away).

All told, while we get the Royals for 14 games, the Twins only get them 3 times. While we get Cleveland 8 times, they get them for 13 games. We literally could make up the 5-game deficit based on intra-division strength of schedule.

While we get 7 tough road games at Texas and Anaheim, they get the same. While we have 3 home games against Oakland; they get 4. While we get six games with Boston; they get six with New York.

We have a 10-game road trip to Texas, Anaheim and Minnesota (8/6-8/16, with an off day 8/13). We also have a quick trip to Boston. Otherwise, the rest of the Sox travel is within the Midwest.

Conversely, the Twins have a 10-game trip (9/20-9/30) to Chicago, Cleveland and New York, plus a frequent-flyer mileage-building trips to Seattle and Cleveland (8/10-8/15) and then to Texas and Anaheim (8/23-29).

We finish with Detroit and Kansas City. They finish with the Yankees and Cleveland. They literally could be eliminated during the Yankees series (if Boston is running close), or they and Cleveland BOTH could be fighting each other to catch the Sox (who would be cleaning up at Kansas City) at the start of October.

The only thing the Twins have in their favor, schedule wise, is more off days. But again, these are necessitated by extensive travels. Of course both teams have to play the games, but the Sox are in good shape to make up the deficit.

Going out on a limb here, I predict the Sox to go 37-23 for the rest of the year (thus 90-72 for the season) and win the AL Central by two games, because I predict the Twins will go 29-27 and finish 88-74.

:supernana:

Frater Perdurabo
08-03-2004, 02:11 PM
The silence is deafening. :?:

South Side
08-03-2004, 02:40 PM
Go Sox? :?:

pudge
08-03-2004, 02:46 PM
Carol is one of the most worthless sports writers in town, and if anyone thinks the Sox are going 37-23 with a SS who hits .220, a 3B who hits .215, nobody to play RF, and a now shaky bullpen, I have a nice bridge I'd like to sell you.

Hangar18
08-03-2004, 03:00 PM
Carol is one of the most worthless sports writers in town, and if anyone thinks the Sox are going 37-23 with a SS who hits .220, a 3B who hits .215, nobody to play RF, and a now shaky bullpen, I have a nice bridge I'd like to sell you.
we need a Nomar Garciaparra type ......... :redneck

DumpJerry
08-03-2004, 03:04 PM
She does make some good points even though she was wrong that Hunter's hit on Burke on 7-26 precipitated the 7 game slide. The streak started the previous day against Detroit.

I think the Contreras trade was made with this season in mind. He will be at least as good as Elo was this season and probably better. If Contreras performs, then we will have two solid starters (Buehrle and Garcia), one somewhat reliable one (Garland who usually sparkles for 6 innings and then folds), one solid one (Contreras) and one questionable one with potential (Shoe).

Rowand's hitting has been great lately and if the rest of the bats start thinking singles and not homers, then we could be on our way. If Frank comes back this month, as some say, cancel your social plans in October!

mcfish
08-03-2004, 03:05 PM
We literally could make up the 5-game deficit based on intra-division strength of schedule.
Like I said last week, it's not completely out of reach, but we still need to beat the AL Central - which has been a problem area for us in the past. No worrying about the Twins - just go out and win as many as absolutely possible.

bobj4400
08-03-2004, 03:06 PM
I dont buy it. Sitting in the sportsbook of Mandalay this weekend and watching the great Sox pen walk in the winning run in consecutive games was utterly depressing. The snickers from fans of other teams as they laughed at the hapless White Sox was also a bitter pill to swallow. I am going to root for the team and keep my head up high, but my belief in this team has fallen considerably. Without Maggs/Thomas, they are running a AAA lineup out there every day it seems.

WinningUgly!
08-03-2004, 03:15 PM
if anyone thinks the Sox are going 37-23 with a SS who hits .220, a 3B who hits .215, nobody to play RF, and a now shaky bullpen, I have a nice bridge I'd like to sell you.
Go ahead & find the title & sign it over to me.:tongue: