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Win1ForMe
07-27-2004, 10:10 PM
Let's get it all out.

Lip Man 1
07-27-2004, 10:10 PM
Guess I'll start it.

Two very disappointing losses with full houses in the park. Not exactly the best way to spread the gospel of Sox baseball.

When push comes to shove folks the Twins want it more. They wanted it more last September winning five straight and they are wanting it more right now.

Those are the facts folks, sorry I don't like it any more then you do.

Lip

Flight #24
07-27-2004, 10:11 PM
Let's all calm down and remember - the season wasn't over when we swept the Twins in Minny, and it isn't over now. We have a much easier schedule than they do, and if we beat the Royals, Indians, & co (easier than beatng the Twins), we'll be fine and in good shape.

I know that's not what anyone wants to hear around here, but it's the truth.

soltrain21
07-27-2004, 10:12 PM
We aren't a very good ballclub without Maggs or Frank, its that simple.

ndgt10
07-27-2004, 10:12 PM
"It looks like you want to get something out."

If anybody has seen Van Wilder, you know what I'm talking about.

Anyways, these first 2 games sucked bad, but if by a miracle we can win tomorrow, we will still only be 1.5 games back with the Twins heading to Boston and the Sox to Detroit.

Frankfan4life
07-27-2004, 10:14 PM
Let's all calm down and remember - the season wasn't over when we swept the Twins in Minny, and it isn't over now. We have a much easier schedule than they do, and if we beat the Royals, Indians, & co (easier than beatng the Twins), we'll be fine and in good shape.

I know that's not what anyone wants to hear around here, but it's the truth.This may be true, but I can't stand the fact that the Twins are kicking our butts in our own ballpark and, unfortunately, I don't have any confidence that the Sox can pull out a win tomorrow.

nasox
07-27-2004, 10:15 PM
This race will be decided in september. If we lay an egg then, well..........then I'll be pissed. Until then, I'll see you guys tomorrow.







Me Gone

pczarapa
07-27-2004, 10:16 PM
Let's get it all out.

Ok, this is what kills me, the bottom four in our lineup tonight is absolutely brutal. Ben Davis grew his batting average to an illustrious .130 while Crede, Borchard, and Uribe went 0 for 11. The real dagger in the heart was the poor showing stranding Konerko and Everett on base with no outs in the seventh. I'll stop droning on now and go kick some things around the house.

Win1ForMe
07-27-2004, 10:19 PM
A few things:

1) 2.5 GB is nothing when you have a good team. Without Frank and Maggs I'm not so sure we are, and probably not better than the Twins.

2) Where are all the dopes who told me last week not to panic after OUR TWO BEST PLAYERS went down with injuries, possibly for the rest of the season? Please enlighten me as to how this team can score enough runs to stay in this race.

3) This scenario could only happen to the Sox. Have yourself a nice little start, finally get people to come out to the park, and *poof* the two best players go down and severly cripple the team.

DGSWR81
07-27-2004, 10:19 PM
This sucks, but we have to remember it's only July. We've still got over 2 months left in the season.

SoxxoS
07-27-2004, 10:20 PM
First to post after a loss...shocking there Lip.

As for your post, we must have "wanted" it more when we swept them earlier in their house. That is crap. Both these teams really want it. Sometimes you come on the losing end. It's baseball. Santana (who is the next Koufax, apparently) was just better than Garcia today. It has nothing to do with "who wants it more."

Losing a hall of famer and the teams best player doesn't help matters, either. We win tomorrow, we are 1.5 out. Hardly insurmountable. We need to take care of business with the Central and let Oakland, Boston and the Yankees beat up on the Twins. They are playing good baseball right now, just like we were when we swept them at their house. They seemed to come back just fine.

Wealz
07-27-2004, 10:25 PM
When push comes to shove folks the Twins want it more. They wanted it more last September winning five straight and they are wanting it more right now.
Without Ordonez and Thomas the Twins should beat the Sox. Desire has nothing to do with it.

Mudville
07-27-2004, 10:25 PM
The Twins and Sox have both taken turns with mini-streaks all season, and neither team has pulled away from the pack by more than a few games. While Minnesota is clearly playing better right now, the schedule will definitely play a factor in the next month. If the Twins sweep the series, which is starting to look very possible, it will only provide them with a small cushion that they'll probably consume at some point in August. Too bad both teams haven't been healthy all season, but Minnesota's depth might be what helps them down the stretch. KW needs to do something, especially if Terry Ryan surprises us and makes a major move.

OurBitchinMinny
07-27-2004, 10:26 PM
The fact is that the white sox are, at best, an average team w/o thomas and ordonez. When only one of those two are out, they are still a pretty good ballclub. But not counting lee or konerko, or everett from time to time, this team stinks at hitting. Borchard is flat out not a major leaguer. Uribe looks like exactly the player I thought wed be getting from colorado. Defend rowand all you want and he has improved, but the guy is not clutch at all. The sox DO NOT have people who get on base and run well. 3 HRs? All of them solo. This team as will not be playing in the playoffs. If by some miracle thomas and ordonez get back in time to help they may. The only way I see is to pull off a big trade. Who the hell cares what you give up. Our top minors isnt to stellar as is, so who cares. Id trade borchard for a vending machine.

Win1ForMe
07-27-2004, 10:26 PM
Losing a hall of famer and the teams best player doesn't help matters, either. We win tomorrow, we are 1.5 out. Hardly insurmountable. We need to take care of business with the Central and let Oakland, Boston and the Yankees beat up on the Twins. They are playing good baseball right now, just like we were when we swept them at their house. They seemed to come back just fine.
You have to remember the Twins are better than they were at that point. We got worse by losing Frank.

South Side
07-27-2004, 10:27 PM
Could you all just shut up about the Twins "wanting it more"... It's the most annoying thing I have heard and no matter how we lose to the Twins someone is always going to say this... Do those who keep saying this know what's going on in the Sox player's mind? Do you honestly think that they are coming out on to the field and saying "Well, it would be nice to win but if we don't ah well"? Losing like this is painful but it could be way worse... it could be September. Stop kicking everyone when they're down...

Flight #24
07-27-2004, 10:27 PM
Out next 14 games (after tomorrow): 4 @ DET, 3 @ KC, 4 v. CLE, 3 v. KC.
MIN's next 13 games (after tomorrow): 3 v. Boston, 3 v. Anaheim, 4 v. Oakland, 3 @ SEA.

Even if we get swept and are 3.5 out, I can easily see us making that ground up during that stretch.

SpartanSoxFan
07-27-2004, 10:28 PM
Without Ordonez and Thomas the Twins should beat the Sox. Desire has nothing to do with it.
I agree 100%. As it stands right now, Minnesota has a better batting lineup than the White Sox, with Frank and Maggs out. Our pitching staff is about even, maybe the Sox have a little bit better depth in the starting rotation. This is why KW needs to step up to the plate and hit a home run, landing Beltran for us.

Lip Man 1
07-27-2004, 10:28 PM
Soxxos:

Explain then the Sox record against the Twins after the All Star break the past two years? Like Dan H. said in another thread how much motivation does this team need?

My post isn't a rip job on the Sox despite what you think. I'm calling a spade a spade. Anybody who thinks you can lose arguable your two best players and not have repercussion's on the field is delusional.

This team simply is not as good without Maggs and Frank. Having a hatred towards the Twins doesn't change the fact they have a LOT of talent AND they play with a chip on their shoulder.

They have a pretty good team, like it or not. They have finished better then the Sox the past three years in a row...time to give them some credit.

When, or if, the Sox play up to their potential (even with injuries) and win the division they you have to give the Sox all the credit but unfortunately they haven't done it yet.

Winning games in May against Minnesota is nice but when it's 'money time,' who is winning the games?

Lip

Flight #24
07-27-2004, 10:31 PM
Soxxos:

Explain then the Sox record against the Twins after the All Star break the past two years? Like Dan H. said in another thread how much motivation does this team need?

My post isn't a rip job on the Sox despite what you think. I'm calling a spade a spade. Anybody who thinks you can lose arguable your two best players and not have repercussion's on the field is delusional.

This team simply is not as good without Maggs and Frank. Having a hatred towards the Twins doesn't change the fact they have a LOT of talent AND they play with a chip on their shoulder.

They have a pretty good team, like it or not. They have finished better then the Sox the past three years in a row...time to give them some credit.

When, or if, the Sox play up to their potential (even with injuries) and win the division they you have to give the Sox all the credit but unfortunately they haven't done it yet.

Winning games in May against Minnesota is nice but when it's 'money time,' who is winning the games?

Lip
As I've posted, it may not even matter since we may easily win the division by beating the inferior teams in the 2d half. Doesn't mean we should roll over, but even without Maggs & Frank, I'd say we have as good a chance as them of winning the division.

alohafri
07-27-2004, 10:32 PM
[QUOTE=Flight #24]Let's all calm down and remember - the season wasn't over when we swept the Twins in Minny, and it isn't over now. QUOTE]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

DGSWR81
07-27-2004, 10:32 PM
Out next 14 games (after tomorrow): 4 @ DET, 3 @ KC, 4 v. CLE, 3 v. KC.
MIN's next 13 games (after tomorrow): 3 v. Boston, 3 v. Anaheim, 4 v. Oakland, 3 @ SEA.

Even if we get swept and are 3.5 out, I can easily see us making that ground up during that stretch.
Whoa. It looks like that stretch of games is going to come at the right time for the Sox. I actually feel a little better after reading that.

ClaudelSleptHere
07-27-2004, 10:36 PM
I also have a problem with the "wanting it more" theory. I have a tendency to believe that the better team usually wins, whether they want it more or not. I know we are only 2 1/2 out...I know we are leading the season series with the Twins...I know we have an easier schedule remaining on paper... and I know we are just three days removed from one of our most exciting wins of the year...but what concerns me about this Sox team is that we very rarely beat the number one and two starters of the good teams, and if we make the playoffs, we won't see too many bad starters.

South Side
07-27-2004, 10:37 PM
Soxxos:

Explain then the Sox record against the Twins after the All Star break the past two years? Like Dan H. said in another thread how much motivation does this team need?

My post isn't a rip job on the Sox despite what you think. I'm calling a spade a spade. Anybody who thinks you can lose arguable your two best players and not have repercussion's on the field is delusional.

This team simply is not as good without Maggs and Frank. Having a hatred towards the Twins doesn't change the fact they have a LOT of talent AND they play with a chip on their shoulder.

They have a pretty good team, like it or not. They have finished better then the Sox the past three years in a row...time to give them some credit.

When, or if, the Sox play up to their potential (even with injuries) and win the division they you have to give the Sox all the credit but unfortunately they haven't done it yet.

Winning games in May against Minnesota is nice but when it's 'money time,' who is winning the games?

Lip
Since when did July become the most important month of the season. Give me a break...

southsideirish71
07-27-2004, 10:38 PM
Ozzie states he put Valentin in the two hole to see more fastballs. However what ozzie fails to realize is that there is this thing called a scouting report. Which reads Valentin hits fastballs very far, however he can be baited into swinging at curveballs in the dirt. Cannot hit a curveball against a lefty.

Good lineup tonight. Count the number of hitters with a BA over .280.

The name of the game is putting the ball in play. Thats what the twinks do. They get two strikes out and slap at the ball and put it into play. Our hitters screw themselves into the ground trying to hit the long home run with 2 strikes and K. They do this no matter how many people are on base, how many outs, or what the situation is.

Embarrasing heartless effort. Big Looping swings.

If you want to shut this team out come armed with a fastball on the outside corner and a good offspeed pitch. We will get ourselves out.

gosox41
07-27-2004, 10:43 PM
Ok, this is what kills me, the bottom four in our lineup tonight is absolutely brutal. Ben Davis grew his batting average to an illustrious .130 while Crede, Borchard, and Uribe went 0 for 11. The real dagger in the heart was the poor showing stranding Konerko and Everett on base with no outs in the seventh. I'll stop droning on now and go kick some things around the house.
Davis, Burke, and Alomar all are bad hitters. Why do we have to carry all 3 of them on the roster?


Bob

gosox41
07-27-2004, 10:44 PM
Without Ordonez and Thomas the Twins should beat the Sox. Desire has nothing to do with it.
Based on that logic, then the season must be over.



Bob

gr8slickg
07-27-2004, 10:48 PM
Sending the Sox up against the Twins without Mags and Frank is like wielding a knife into a gunfight...it's a tough battle even if you are a master chef. Without those two, it's extremely difficult for the Sox to go toe to toe with the firepower of the Twins. The Sox have a bunch of awesome players...but they were just overwhelmed tonight.:(:

ndgt10
07-27-2004, 10:51 PM
I...but what concerns me about this Sox team is that we very rarely beat the number one and two starters of the good teams, and if we make the playoffs, we won't see too many bad starters.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we beat Cliff Lee and C.C. Sabathia last week. Those two are pretty good starters.

flo-B-flo
07-27-2004, 10:53 PM
Call it what you want but Lip is right. Except the "want it more" part. Two real good pitching performances against us by their two studs. Two not so good ones by ours. There is STILL plenty of time. We can come back and catch AND pass these guys. They are a good team. But so are we. GO-GO SOX!!

SpartanSoxFan
07-27-2004, 10:55 PM
Based on that logic, then the season must be over.



Bob
Yes, the season will be over. UNLESS KW can get either Jason Kendall or Beltran. Kendall would be an awesome grab considering how poorly Alomar and Davis are hitting the ball right now. Bottom line, I have faith in Kenny, and he will be able to land someone to turn things around for us.

southsideirish71
07-27-2004, 11:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we beat Cliff Lee and C.C. Sabathia last week. Those two are pretty good starters.
Well in those games we hit to all fields trying to hit line drives. Now we are back to corpseball trying to pull the long home run.

If you can spot a fastball on the outside corner at 89 mph you will own this team.

BlackAndWhite
07-27-2004, 11:03 PM
At least we lead the majors in ******* solo home runs. :angry:

ClaudelSleptHere
07-27-2004, 11:06 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we beat Cliff Lee and C.C. Sabathia last week. Those two are pretty good starters.
I won't be correcting you because you are not wrong......but we didn't exactly hammer Sabathia, and we most likely will not be seeing Cleveland in the playoffs...

HebrewHammer
07-27-2004, 11:09 PM
Well, if we wanted to know what the team would look like without Magglio and Frank, look no further....
:corpseball

I guess it was Living Dead Night at the Cell tonight....and last night...and last year.....

Viva Magglio
07-27-2004, 11:13 PM
:angry:
I wasted my time and money tonight attending this ballgame. What I saw tonight was the same heartless going through the motions crap that I saw last season. Some are saying "Well, you have to tip your cap to Santana." I don't want to hear that crap! Yes, I realize that Johan Santana is a tough pitcher, but we made him look like Sandy Koufax tonight. I knew we would be in trouble when I saw the lineup posted on the scoreboard. First of all, why did we have José Valentín batting second against Santana? José's numbers against LHP's alone will make him a first ballot Hall of Famer. And then we have dead weight in the lineup with Joe Crede, Joe Borchard, and Ben Davis.

I am especially sick of Borchard. That ball that went over his head was inexcusable. And he makes Ron Karkovice look great with his plate appearances. Walk off home run Saturday aside, I am also sick of Crede. So what if he is a great fielder. While he may occasionally prevent runs from being scored upon us with his fielding, he makes up for it by prevent runs from being scored upon the opposition with his hitting (or lack thereof). As for Ben Davis, just get me a barf bag.

Wake up and smell the coffee people. We are not going to win a damn thing unless we acquire real talent, and I do not want to use Frank and Mágglio's absences as a crutch. 2˝ games out of first place does not mean we're finished by any stretch of the imagination. However, we cannot continue to play like this and expect to finish first. Until I see things change for the better, I have zero confidence in our ability to win the division.

AnkleSox
07-27-2004, 11:15 PM
I'm so pissed i spent money to go see that pathetic display of offense. At least some twins fans tried to start a fight but got the crap completely beat out of them by other sox fans who were only acting in defense and security escorted them out.


2.5 back in july isn't TOO bad, but if the Sox lose tomorrow because of more corpseball I'll really be losing confidence in this team.

Dub25
07-27-2004, 11:16 PM
Why should I feel good about passing the twins at some point this season when the last few years is all they do vs. the Twins in the second half is choke? Doesn't matter if it's Ozzie or Jerry when this team see's Minnesota or Twins across the jersey when the games mean more they choke. Plain and simple. Yeah they had Radke and Santana going but the sox had Buehrle and Garcia going and the Twins had no problem scoring the runs they needed. Maybe if the Sox swung at a good pitches instead of swinging for the fences at a bad pitch they might have won a game in this series. Hey White Sox, show some heart for a change and win a big game.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

JoseCanseco6969
07-27-2004, 11:19 PM
I had an awful time tonight, but this season is FAR from over. The game sucked and to top it off, when i got back to my car, some bastard had stolen my grill from tailgaiting!:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
That sure added insult to injury. Anyway, I dont know if anyone here had ever stolen a grill, but people come on, show some tailgaiting respect! Anyone enough bitching, I'll be there tomorrow (without my grill:whiner: ) and hopefully without corpseball! Lets prevent that sweep!!! Go Loaiza!

Hoffdaddydmb
07-27-2004, 11:22 PM
I was unfortunate enough to be in attendance tonight. What in the f*$# was mike jackson doing finishing the game. Shingo was the definite answer. Ozzie must not want his job that bad!

:angry:

nordhagen
07-27-2004, 11:23 PM
Time for Loaiza to step up and redeem himself for last year's late-season fade against the Twins. Borchard is another farm system fraud and I think Carlton Fisk right now could give us the same production as the three stooges catching crew of Alomar, Burke and Davis (how was this guy a first-round draft pick).

Five runs on five homers. They shouldn't even waste the fireworks in the ninth inning of a game like that. The Twins were probably laughing their rear ends off.

But hey, the Sox weren't going to go 16-3 or 15-4 against the Twins this year. If they crap all over themselves in September then we can be really hacked off.

nordhagen
07-27-2004, 11:26 PM
Mike Jackson has become the "victory cigar" for Sox opponents. How long until HE GONE.

I was unfortunate enough to be in attendance tonight. What in the f*$# was mike jackson doing finishing the game. Shingo was the definite answer. Ozzie must not want his job that bad!

:angry:

Hoffdaddydmb
07-27-2004, 11:27 PM
Garcia needs to stop pitching to davis. Having Davis in the lineup is like having a pitcher bat. He was god awful tonight. He's so used to AAA that major league heat is hitting his counterpart's glove before he even gets the bat around.

GARCIA GET A NEW CATCHER!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:

Hoffdaddydmb
07-27-2004, 11:30 PM
Mike Jackson has become the "victory cigar" for Sox opponents. How long until HE GONE.
Mike Jackson is the best player on every team but the sox!

JoseCanseco6969
07-27-2004, 11:32 PM
Garcia needs to stop pitching to davis. Having Davis in the lineup is like having a pitcher bat. He was god awful tonight. He's so used to AAA that major league heat is hitting his counterpart's glove before he even gets the bat around.

GARCIA GET A NEW CATCHER!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:
Well, as bad as davis is, he was the only hit besides homers. Pretty sad fact

tromcoe
07-27-2004, 11:33 PM
Well all I have to say is that this will be the time to test the Mettle of all SOX fans. The band wagoners who have jumped on this last week will now think we are done. The true fans will still sell out the stands on the following homestands. I can only imagine what Twins fns felt when they were swept in there own park just a couple weeks ago.


LETS SINCH IT UP AND HUNKER DOWN!!

Lip Man 1
07-27-2004, 11:43 PM
The subject of 'heart' and 'corpseball' is returning to these threads. Rick Morrissey has a column on 'heart' on the Tribune web site. No he doesn't mention corpseball but he does pose some interesting questions.


Lip

Brian26
07-27-2004, 11:47 PM
The subject of 'heart' and 'corpseball' is returning to these threads. Rick Morrissey has a column on 'heart' on the Tribune web site. No he doesn't mention corpseball but he does pose some interesting questions.


Lip
Did Morrisey see the game on Saturday night (Only 3 days ago)? The team was down by 4 runs and was no-hit until the 5th inning. I think the team showed a LOT of heart in winning that game.

denev1
07-27-2004, 11:48 PM
I think the "want it more" explanation to why the Twins are handing us are lunch is a reaction to how incredibly uninspired the Sox play has been of late. The Sox have been flat since Schoeneweis could not find the inside of the plate against Detroit and even after being called out by play's like last night's Torii Hunter shot to Burke's head are only response was a few solo shots and mediocre (at best) pitching... I don't expect the Sox to win every game, but I do think they should be in every game with a chance to win... Hopefully they can come out of this with a win tomorrow and get some games back as the Twins get to face some tougher opponents for a change.

OEO Magglio
07-27-2004, 11:51 PM
Ok, I'm not going to read this whole thread because I'm sure there are plenty of posts declaring the season over. This game was disappointing and so far this series has been disappointing but the sox are 1 game behind in the loss column. If the sox win tomorrow we're tied in the loss column, with the tough stretch they're going on the sox are going to have a great opportunity to make up some ground. I'm just as mad as anyone after these two games but everyone step back from the ledge, the sox are going to be just fine.

DrCrawdad
07-27-2004, 11:53 PM
Trying not to sound like Lip but it just figures the Sox would get their butts kicked with a good vibe and the stadium packed.

Kick the Twins asses tomorrow!

WSox8404
07-28-2004, 12:01 AM
I think we play better when there are only 20,000 people in attendance. From now on, no one goes to games.

DrCrawdad
07-28-2004, 12:04 AM
I think we play better when there are only 20,000 people in attendance. From now on, no one goes to games.

That's probably not far off for tomorrow's game.

Lip Man 1
07-28-2004, 12:05 AM
Brian:

Don't know if you read the column but it sounds to me like he was referring specifically to this Twins series which many in the media said was the biggest series of the year.

Certainly in the long run it means more then the Tigers series.

Lip

CHISOXFAN13
07-28-2004, 01:05 AM
:angry:
I wasted my time and money tonight attending this ballgame. What I saw tonight was the same heartless going through the motions crap that I saw last season. Some are saying "Well, you have to tip your cap to Santana." I don't want to hear that crap! Yes, I realize that Johan Santana is a tough pitcher, but we made him look like Sandy Koufax tonight. I knew we would be in trouble when I saw the lineup posted on the scoreboard. First of all, why did we have José Valentín batting second against Santana? José's numbers against LHP's alone will make him a first ballot Hall of Famer. And then we have dead weight in the lineup with Joe Crede, Joe Borchard, and Ben Davis.


Get a grip for crying out loud. You act like we are the only team Santana has dominated during this stretch. IMO, there isn't a better pitcher in baseball right now than him.

WHo should have batted second, Uribe? Yeah, he really got the job done, too.

StockdaleForVeep
07-28-2004, 02:38 AM
Winning record at home the sox have, yet im 1-3 in attendin, perhaps i will stop goin to benefit the team

To those who gripe saying you wasted hard earned money at todays game, it was half price night and you probably paid 6 bucks to sit in the upper deck. Its 1 quarterpounder and fries you'll do without.

I was in the UD and sick of hearin the chants behind me about jacque jones, just got annoying at times. Just because if brought darryl strawberry to tears in simpsons doesnt mean it does jack to someone in right field who can probably barely hear u(at one point i thought they were chanting nachos)

Mike jackson i believe didnt give up an earned run and did come in with zero outs, so he finally did do his job

Plenty of baseball left and i worry more about us playin oakland in sept and playing boston soon since we havent seen them yet. But as im sure, many people wanna white flag now.

Borchard, he doesnt belong with this team, garcia did pitch a decent game, take a prozac and sleep this off till tomorrow. As i was telling the gloading torii hunter jerseys infront of me "Your welcome back here in october, if you can buy seats"

:prozac

mealfred13
07-28-2004, 04:00 AM
I don't care what anyone else says....I was at the game with a couple friends. Great crowd, great vibe all around. Santana was dealing, as I had feared. Couple crappy calls by the umps, like Hunter's ground-rule infield double (*** was that?!) and the strike call on Uribe's check swing (which everyone on the first base line side of the park could clearly see never crossed the plate, before I came home and my dad told me the replay also showed he didn't swing).

Garcia was doing pretty well except for a few pitches here and there, and the bullpen flat-out SUCKED today. Marte couldn't find the plate, but amazingly Jackson did OK for a change.

Alot of people left early, but there were about 37,000 there for a sold out crowd. We stayed til the end, as did a most of our section and over 2/3 of the entire crowd, and enjoyed a couple futile homers in the last frame. I had a ton of fun, as usual, although it was very frustrating at times, but I don't regret coming to the game, nor have I ever. Anyone who says otherwise is not a fan. They are a bandwagon jumper. Come back and get 'em in game 3.

3Peater
07-28-2004, 06:24 AM
Ok, I'm not going to read this whole thread because I'm sure there are plenty of posts declaring the season over. This game was disappointing and so far this series has been disappointing but the sox are 1 game behind in the loss column. If the sox win tomorrow we're tied in the loss column, with the tough stretch they're going on the sox are going to have a great opportunity to make up some ground. I'm just as mad as anyone after these two games but everyone step back from the ledge, the sox are going to be just fine.
Sox have knocked Silva around in 3 losses. He gets some pitches left up in the zone, the Sox hitters will make him pay.

Hard to believe, with an ERA vs Chicago and 3 losses, he has the same number of wins as Loaiza and a lower era(4.48/4.85).

Mickster
07-28-2004, 09:10 AM
Brian:

Don't know if you read the column but it sounds to me like he was referring specifically to this Twins series which many in the media said was the biggest series of the year.

Certainly in the long run it means more then the Tigers series.

Lip
Lip,

Regardless of what "many in the media" feel, it is just 2 games. Why wasn't the last series with the twins the "biggest series of the year"? Who's to say that the next 2 series might in fact be the "biggest series of the year"?

Everyone must relax. A win today and tomorrow (coupled with the Twins off-day tomorrow) makes them down only by one game. THE SKY IS NOT FALLING. I assure you that it is not.

Lip Man 1
07-28-2004, 12:07 PM
Here's the link to the column. You can make your own deductions:

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-040727morrissey,1,6140062.column?coll=cs-columnists

Lip

Flight #24
07-28-2004, 12:13 PM
Here's the link to the column. You can make your own deductions:

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-040727morrissey,1,6140062.column?coll=cs-columnists

Lip
Gee, the Tribune raising the importance of a series the Sox lost versus any series the Sox won? Who'da thunk it.

They must be right, after all - they're the bastion of unbiased journalism....

Lip Man 1
07-28-2004, 05:19 PM
Flight:

Just because they own the Cubs doesn't 'automatically' make what they are saying wrong.

Lip

BigEdWalsh
07-28-2004, 06:16 PM
:hug: :dancers: I don't want to offend any of you ultra-sensitive guys who get so riled by "chicken littles" and "bandwagoneers" who post all that negative stuff.
So.....getting swept by the Twins wasn't a big deal. Everything will be fine. The Twins are gonna lose a bunch of games while the Sox win a bunch and VOILA! We're right back in 1st place!!!! :D: :supernana:

:supernana: :) :supernana: