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elrod
07-17-2004, 12:38 AM
No f'n way. Calm down folks. Frank going down hurts and KW clearly needs a bat from someplace else to fill the void. Maybe a C too (or both in one). But this doesn't mean the Sox and the suddenly "mediocre" Twins are faltering for good. We've had slumps before and we look awful those times. Strangely they happen when we go out west. Well guess what? We have two more in Oakland and three in Anaheim in September and that's it. Five more games on the West Coast. As bad as this team looks right now there is no reason why the Sox can't turn it back on again.

And as for Detroit and Cleveland? There's a reason these teams are below .500. They aren't very good. Sure Cleveland has three great starters and a nice, consistent lineup from top to bottom. But they have one of the worst bullpens in recent memory. Think of all the times our lineup mysteriously went into a funk after Billy gave up a game (TB on 7/4 last year, e.g.). Well, that's happened a bunch of times already for the Indians and will keep happening. Their lineup plays well for awhile and has decent numbers overall, but they've hit some terrible funks and will continue to do so.

Detroit? One of the best hearts of an order in the AL with Pudge, Guillen and a healthy Young and Sanchez (Inge has done well too). But the rest of the lineup is awful. Higgy is back to his bad self. Pena, Munson and Thames are every bit as bad as they were in '03. And the rotation is incredibly inconsistent. Nate Robertson is the only truly good starter. Maroth and Johnson have their great days (Maroth 1-hit the Yanks tonight) but then turn around and have terrible outings the next time. Oh, and the Tigers bullpen gives the Indians' bullpen a run for its money in terms of futility. Even with Urbina (4.63ERA) the bullpen there is terrible.

The Tigers and Indians will each finish with about 77 wins. Much better than last year, of course, but not enough to compete with the Twins and Sox who are much more balanced teams, even if they're struggling right now. So keep it together and if you want to watch a scoreboard other than the Sox, just look at the Twins.

bmac5001
07-17-2004, 01:42 AM
my thoughts exactly. well said.

IA_soxfan
07-17-2004, 02:17 AM
No f'n way. Calm down folks. Frank going down hurts and KW clearly needs a bat from someplace else to fill the void. Maybe a C too (or both in one). But this doesn't mean the Sox and the suddenly "mediocre" Twins are faltering for good. We've had slumps before and we look awful those times. Strangely they happen when we go out west. Well guess what? We have two more in Oakland and three in Anaheim in September and that's it. Five more games on the West Coast. As bad as this team looks right now there is no reason why the Sox can't turn it back on again.

And as for Detroit and Cleveland? There's a reason these teams are below .500. They aren't very good. Sure Cleveland has three great starters and a nice, consistent lineup from top to bottom. But they have one of the worst bullpens in recent memory. Think of all the times our lineup mysteriously went into a funk after Billy gave up a game (TB on 7/4 last year, e.g.). Well, that's happened a bunch of times already for the Indians and will keep happening. Their lineup plays well for awhile and has decent numbers overall, but they've hit some terrible funks and will continue to do so.

Detroit? One of the best hearts of an order in the AL with Pudge, Guillen and a healthy Young and Sanchez (Inge has done well too). But the rest of the lineup is awful. Higgy is back to his bad self. Pena, Munson and Thames are every bit as bad as they were in '03. And the rotation is incredibly inconsistent. Nate Robertson is the only truly good starter. Maroth and Johnson have their great days (Maroth 1-hit the Yanks tonight) but then turn around and have terrible outings the next time. Oh, and the Tigers bullpen gives the Indians' bullpen a run for its money in terms of futility. Even with Urbina (4.63ERA) the bullpen there is terrible.

The Tigers and Indians will each finish with about 77 wins. Much better than last year, of course, but not enough to compete with the Twins and Sox who are much more balanced teams, even if they're struggling right now. So keep it together and if you want to watch a scoreboard other than the Sox, just look at the Twins.You are dealing with sox fans here, what do you expect? We drop the first two games after the break and all of a sudden....
:chickenlittle

elrod
07-17-2004, 07:33 AM
No surprise to learn "the sky is falling". Just wanted to point out why the sky wasn't falling into a four-team race. The fact that Minnesota is struggling right along with the Sox is perfect evidence that the sky is NOT falling. Only if the AL Central Champ is worse than the 1973 Mets will the race be more than a two team affair.

soxtalker
07-17-2004, 07:54 AM
That's fine if you can assume that those teams aren't going to change much. Well, they probably won't change by acquiring other players like we will. But they are both young teams, and it is quite plausible that they will get better. I hope you are right -- and, no, the sky is not falling -- but young teams have nothing to lose and a lot to play for.

OurBitchinMinny
07-17-2004, 09:33 AM
They are only 4.5 out, with cleveland very possibly being only 2.5 out after sunday since they are playing the mariners and we are playing in oakland. Should it be a 4 team race? No, but it will if we keep playing like ****

Terminated
07-17-2004, 11:35 AM
The Cleveland Indians are a threat to the White Sox IMO. Once they are 7 games behind than I won’t be as worried about them as I am right now, but they still have more than 60 games to play here in the 2nd half.