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OzzieBall2004
07-16-2004, 05:42 PM
Im sure most of you guys saw this, but two of our guys rank dead last in two very critical categories. One comes as no surprise, but the other troubles me...

Avg. w/ RISP

AL TRAILERS

1. Crede, Sox .162 (11/68) <---Not too surprising with awful 1st half
2. Spiezio, Sea .182 (12/66)
3. Delgado, Tor .190 (12/63)
4. Mientkwcz, Min .193 (11/57)

Average after 6 innings

1. Thomas, Sox .149 (10/67) <--- This is grossly unacceptable, I had no idea
2. Blum, TB .169 (13/77)
3. Boone, Sea .173 (17/98)
4. Millar, Bos .185 (17/92)

BigEdWalsh
07-16-2004, 05:49 PM
Average after 6 innings

1. Thomas, Sox .149 (10/67) <--- This is grossly unacceptable, I had no idea

Woah! Right you are and I had no idea either. What's with that? I'm sure a lot of walks are mixed in there but nonetheless, that sucks!:unsure:

jackbrohamer
07-16-2004, 05:52 PM
Avg. w/ RISP AL TRAILERS 1. Crede, Sox .162 (11/68) :chunks

Man I want to like the guy but he's been a no-show the first half of the season 2 years in a row

Deadguy
07-16-2004, 06:04 PM
Average after 6 innings

1. Thomas, Sox .149 (10/67) <--- This is grossly unacceptable, I had no idea
Could be somewhat misleading. I've noticed that during Thomas' PAs in blowouts, his body language seems to suggest that he has little interest in the game anymore. I've seen a lot of guys who seem to come up with a lot of meaningless late inning RBIs, when we're already up big, and they're facing some mop-up guy. Honestly, how important is a hit in the 7th inning when we're up by 6+?

Of course, Thomas has been terrible throughout his career in close and late situations. It seemed that from September of 2002 throughout 2003, he was very clutch, so I was hoping he had turned the corner with respects to that. Apparently, he has not.

OzzieBall2004
07-16-2004, 06:09 PM
I agree, the Frank number is a lot less troubling when you factor in walks and uninspired ABs during blowouts. However, being dead last in anything is a troubling sign. Except maybe being the worst at losing...That wouldnt be so bad. Or even the worst at striking out. That would be okay too. And the worst at GIDPs. That would be actually pretty good. Or the worst at infield flies. If you were the worst at that you'd be putting the ball in play a lot, which is nice.

bigfoot
07-16-2004, 06:21 PM
Im sure most of you guys saw this, but two of our guys rank dead last in two very critical categories. One comes as no surprise, but the other troubles me...

Avg. w/ RISP

AL TRAILERS

1. Crede, Sox .162 (11/68) <---Not too surprising with awful 1st half
2. Spiezio, Sea .182 (12/66)
3. Delgado, Tor .190 (12/63)
4. Mientkwcz, Min .193 (11/57)

Average after 6 innings

1. Thomas, Sox .149 (10/67) <--- This is grossly unacceptable, I had no idea
2. Blum, TB .169 (13/77)
3. Boone, Sea .173 (17/98)
4. Millar, Bos .185 (17/92)
Oz~Do you have the link on that list? And does it list only the last 5-10?

Huisj
07-16-2004, 07:09 PM
I agree, the Frank number is a lot less troubling when you factor in walks and uninspired ABs during blowouts. However, being dead last in anything is a troubling sign. Except maybe being the worst at losing...That wouldnt be so bad. Or even the worst at striking out. That would be okay too. And the worst at GIDPs. That would be actually pretty good. Or the worst at infield flies. If you were the worst at that you'd be putting the ball in play a lot, which is nice.
you sound like a bad cross between chip carey and ed farmer

jeremyb1
07-16-2004, 07:58 PM
you sound like a bad cross between chip carey and ed farmer

I get tired of sounding like a broken record here but does anyone realize we're talking about 67 AND 68 AT BATS!!!! Numerous studies have shown an inability to repeat clutch hitting from season to season let alone from half to half. This is like judging a guy two weeks into the season. It's the same number of at bats. Remember when over a month in everyone said Paully and Carlos were worthless? Remember when Uribe was hitting .380?! This small a sample size is completely irrelevant.

RKMeibalane
07-16-2004, 08:02 PM
To be honest, I don't think those numbers are relevant anymore. Crede has shown that he's a much better player during the second half, and as for Frank, he may not be back this season, so what does it matter if he's last in that category? The Cubune is looking for anything they can find to make the Sox look bad.

Hangar18
07-16-2004, 08:39 PM
Im sure most of you guys saw this, but two of our guys rank last in two very critical categories. One comes as no surprise, but the other troubles me...

Avg. w/ RISP

AL TRAILERS

1. Crede, Sox .162 (11/68) <---Not too surprising with awful 1st half
2. Spiezio, Sea .182 (12/66)
3. Delgado, Tor .190 (12/63)
4. Mientkwcz, Min .193 (11/57)

Average after 6 innings

1. Thomas, Sox .149 (10/67) <--- This is grossly unacceptable, I had no idea
2. Blum, TB .169 (13/77)
3. Boone, Sea .173 (17/98)
4. Millar, Bos .185 (17/92)
WHICH IS WHY I WAS FURIOUS with ozz letting Crede play in the later innings against the cubs. He almost singlehandedly cost us the series.
He SUCKS. However, his defense is great, and knowing he CANT HIT,
ID NEVER let him bat right now late innings ........weve lost a fw games now...
thanks Joe. good job :angry: